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Pretty good analogy.

Posted By: Scamp on 2009-04-14
In Reply to: MOST people who serve in the military are - FOLLOWERS, not leaders.

Used to be, most military leaders started out in the ranks (followers) and the great ones rose to leadership.  They learned to be effective leaders by following effective leaders. They learned to lead in combat by serving under combat leadership.  In war times, that can still happen - sometimes.


But nowadays, most military officers are 'college boys'  (community organizers?)who have never served in the ranks and don't really know how to lead because they never leaned how to follow.  And in challenging situations, these guys don't inspire much confidence in their troops. 


I like the Japanese busines philosophy.  Before you get to be a CEO of an auto company you work 'on the line' learning how to put the cars together, and in other company divisions until you have experience in all aspects of the business.  Then you have some grasp of how to effectively lead the business. Only then are you worthy to sit in the corner office and make decisions that affect the business and every employee in it. 


 




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Not a good analogy, at all. sm
Thus the disconnect.
That was actually a very good analogy
And very true. It's like when teachers used to grade on a curve. Not bragging, but I was a straight A student up until high school. All during middle school I studied my butt off and had straight A's, but so many times the teacher would grade on a curve and it just taught me not to bother because if I just failed along with everyone else she would give us a better grade.

It's just not right. I agree those making big bucks because of illegal practices or deceptive tactics should be brought down, but if someone is rich because they worked hard to get there they shouldn't have to give a portion of that to someone else.

And just for anyone that wants to say I was "born with a silver spoon in my mouth" or whatever, you're wrong. Last year my DH and I made a whopping $24,000 between us, and we won't make that much more this year. I would probably greatly benefit from O's plan. But I'm not taking some stranger's money. We didn't buy a house above our means and we didn't buy new cars and new toys when everyone else did. Therefore when times get hard, we can take care of ourselves.

That's what this country needs to get back to. Hard work and taking care of OURSELVES, not expecting someone else to do it for us.

Oh, and maybe if everyone got off their butts and started working, we could see the ones who REALLY needed help and without the government people could reach out and help them.


Wow! Looks pretty good.

I love the sentence, *Are you tired of boards that claim to stand for Free Speech but delete your posts or ban you outright for speaking your mind?* 


Thanks, gt!


This was pretty good.
I agree about the dress, though.  It looks like the same one she wore on the Tonight Show.  Must be her *Today/Tonight* dress.  With her *best-selling* (paltry) 48,000 in book sales, you'd think she could afford to buy another dress.
I think they are all pretty good at thinking their
Rosie was the worst IMO.

Elisabeth is the best at not getting overheated IMO. Did you see Sherri the day she was responding about Ayers with the whole McCain cheated on first wife with Cindy thing - "Wow" is right as Elisabeth said "when did this get personal.
hey, she's pretty good, she got the poor part right!
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The auto industry's V6 motor is pretty good

We get 28-30 MPH with it. Why they didn't brag this up, I have no idea. It has power, too. We could keep up with the V8's with no problem. Had a very large luxury Delta 98 LS and it was the best car we ever had...but the frame rotted away, so we kept the motor and put it into a Buick LeSabre.


Part of the problem is the unions. I've always been a union supporter, but they have really killed the industry in this country in the past 20 years. That's why there are no steel industries here anymore. That's why auto workers make a fantastic wage. Once they make good to fantastic wages, they won't back down.


Face it. People are greedy and this is a gigantic wake up call, but if they don't want to, or aren't willing to, take pay cuts, or pay more for their health insurance, then we're doomed to fall into a greater depression than seen in the 30s. A me-first-and-only-me economy doesn't work.


Example:  Teachers in my area are screaming and going on strike because they don't want to pay more for health insurance. They pay $40 biweekly.  I pay $200 a pay and before that, I paid $630 a month.  I'm happy paying $200 a month. Are they? Nope. It's me-me-me. When are people going to wake up?


Looks like a pretty good size crowd at the Alamo and in Sacramento and in Georgia.
Guys, I know you all worship at the feet of the Obama false idol, but for God's sake turn the channel every once in while!
Another analogy
Skinhead, racist militia nutjobs are to Conservativism as Nazi death camp thugs were to the Bavarian Yodeling Society. 
What a ridiculous analogy!
Reading your post was a complete waste of time!
I think it is a perfect analogy.
I'm sorry you feel like you wasted your time reading my post but grades are earned just like incomes are earned.  To take away from one to give to another is just absurd, discouraging, and not fair at all to the people who worked hard to achieve their incomes or grades.  It encourages people to not work as hard because they are penalized for making more and it will encourage more people not to work because they will get a check from the government supporting them anyway...so why bother.
That is a great analogy. nm
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What is it about my analogy you don't understand??

Really, really bad, racist, violent, crazy people have the same relationship to Conservatism


as


people shoving Jews into gas chambers have to a society of yodelers in lederhosen. 


i.e.,  No freakin' similarity at all!  They're not the same thing!  Is this too abstract for you guys?  Work with me here!  To equate Conservatives and/or returning vets with the far right radical movement is absurd, and politically motivated. 


Ummm...my analogy refers to
I have looked beyond the pretty face. Problem is, I don't see a whole lot there, unless she is trying for her old position as PTA chairman. The depth of your analysis, as you insist on trying to deflect this away from the issue of her paper-thin resume and toward some sort of cat fight over "looks" demonstrates exactly what kind of follower she will attract. Do you think that slam about envy and being unattractive has any bearing on anything of substance? Trust me. These are not some isolated ramblings from an envious, malcontent, ugly, what's-her-name/Cindy McCain wannabe. You and she will have to be answering some really tough challenges from all those groups named in the previous post. Guess you missed that as your post disintegrated into name-calling that has absolutely nothing to do with the very serious issues at hand. In terms of her preparedness to lead this nation, she strikes me and many, many others as being a Bobo. My little post….just the tip of the iceberg. You'd better find some bigger guns than lipstick and nail files.
Make that "my analogy refers to
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Good post....truth doesn't always sound good
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Isn't she pretty?
She looks like a normal person too, not a clueless politican who has never paid a bill.
McCain and his wife scare me but I am so excited about her!
I'm pretty sure
that this post didn't have anything to do with Obama. The topic is McCain/Contra in this post. I can't stand either of them, but thanks for the advice.
pretty much
it is unlikely that we are ever going to agree, and honestly, I just come here to interact with adults. I just moved here, my husband is deployed and I don't know anyone, so it is nice to "talk" to adults. It is all good natured (on my part anyway) and I really just like to argue

I think you pretty much did that all by yourself. nm

So you just pretty much sent me to ...

the bad place with fire and stuff because of a joke that had absolutely nothing to do with religion based simply on the fact that I am an A... (the one whose name shall not be mentioned).


 


Pretty sure
Pretty certain that you are going to be standing before God too, right?  Or are u exempt?  Anyway, I bet he doesnt like foul-mouthed witch hunters one bit!  I also bet he doesnt like it when his children start fights and are accusatory to innocent people.  You have a high horse, what is it's name? 
Pretty sad but just think
how many ignorant people will come back with.....but he is cutting the budget.  LOL.  All his sheeple will hear is budget cut and they are on board with him as per usual.  If Obama promised to stop farting in an effort to lessen pollution.....his adoring fans would praise him from the highest mountain for all to hear. 
Pretty sure that ()
who used to sign herself .-  (dot/dash).  Someone mentioned this a week or so ago and I have to agree.  Same style, similar typos, same strange sentence structure and confrontational attitude.  Anybody else noticing this? 
It must pretty convenient
to cut and paste and post the same 1st-grade name calling, hate-filled rant everyday.  It cuts out time spent in the creativity process...
Seems pretty important to me
Well, if his trustee is saying Frist was updated regularly on his blind trust, I kind of think that is something.  It is a formal investigatinn by the SEC.  I kind of think that is something. 
Seems pretty on target to me :o)

Tongue in cheek..but I gotta tell ya, some of this is true, from my experience living in NY, CA and VA.


Subject: Dear Friends, (Retirees and Those Planning to Retire. Here are some very helpful tips that are just too true to ignore:




As  we all know, when we hit retirement age we come face to face with the fact  that it may be time to relocate. The big question is: where to? Here are some tips.




You can live in Phoenix, Arizona where.....You are willing to park 3 blocks away because you found shade. :-)You can open and drive your car without touching the car door or the steering wheel. You've experienced condensation on your butt from the hot water in the toilet bowl. You would give anything to be able to splash cold water on your face. You can attend any function wearing shorts and a tank top. Dress Code is meaningless at high schools and universities. Picture lingerie ads. You can drive for 4 hours in one direction and never leave town. You have over 100 recipes for Mexican food. The 4 seasons are: tolerable, hot, really hot, and ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!!  You know that dry heat is comparable to what hits you in the face when you open your oven door.


You can Live in California where...You make over $250,000 and you still can't afford to buy a house.  The high school quarterback calls a time-out to answer his cell phone.  The fastest part of your commute is going down your driveway.  You know how to eat an artichoke.  You drive your rented Mercedes to your neighborhood block party. Then someone asks you how far something is, you tell them how long it will take to get there rather than how many miles away it is.


You can Live in New York City where..You say the city and expect everyone to know you mean Manhattan. You have never been to the Statue of Liberty or the Empire State Building. You can get into a four-hour argument about how to get from Columbus Circle to Battery Park, but can't find Wisconsin on a map. You think Central Park is nature, You believe that being able to swear at people in their own language makes you multi-lingual. You've worn out a car horn. You think eye contact is an act of aggression.


You can Live in Maine where... You only have four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup, and Tabasco. Halloween costumes fit over parkas. You have more than one recipe for moose. Sexy lingerie is anything flannel with less than eight buttons. The four seasons are: winter, still winter, almost winter, and construction.


You can Live in the Deep South where...You can rent a movie and buy bait in the same store. Y'all is singular and all y'all is plural. After five years you still hear, You ain't from ' round here, are Ya? He needed killin' is a valid defense. Everyone has 2 first names:  Billy Bob, Jimmy Bob, Mary Sue, Betty Jean, MARY BETH,  etc.


You can live in Colorado where...You carry your $3,000 mountain bike atop your $500 car. You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home and he stops at the day care center. A pass does not involve a football or dating. The top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail.


You can live in the Midwest where...You've never met any celebrities, but the mayor knows your name. Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor. You have had to switch from heat to A/C on the same day. You end sentences with a preposition: Where's my coat at? When asked how your trip was to any exotic place, you say, It was different!


AND You can live in Florida where...You eat dinner at 3:15 in the afternoon. All purchases include a coupon of some kind -- even houses and cars. Everyone can recommend an excellent dermatologist. Road construction never ends anywhere in the state. Cars in front of you are often driven by headless people.


That's pretty much the point isn't it? SM
Why call someone a racist for not being fond of the French? 
pretty funny huh?

She's telling other people to pay attention to posts when she can't do it herself.


Yeah pretty much.

It would be a lot funnier if it wasn't so true.  :-(


I wonder why Bush refuses to go after Bin Laden now, after all that **wanted, dead or alive** rhetoric he spouted.  I seriously wonder if Bin Laden is on Bush's payroll.


Pretty much practice
But I have to admit, even with all that practice I'll never be a master like you are.  I'll always be just an amateur compared to you.
This is pretty interesting.
What stands out to me the most I think is that those polled still feel that the republicans are better at handling the terrorist problem than the democrats. How is that at all possible? Especially in light of the plethora of information about how poorly it has been handled from the get go? It shows just how deeply inset certain belief systems are regardless of whether or not they are true or based on fact.

Example of that is Huckabee. How naive can people be? This guy is running on his religion and people are swallowing it, especially the so-called values voters, when in actuality he is probably the most untrustworthy and least capable.

Go figure.
Yes, it is pretty childish....
if you don't like the way I play, get out of my sandbox. Very Democratic and liberal of you, piglet.

Not much of social value from conservatives? Emancipation proclamation? Voting for women and African Americans? Nah, from YOUR point of view, I guess that is not much. I believe they have all been sustainable. But if course, doing one of those things involved fighting a war to bring it about. And we all know liberals (well except John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson...uh...) RUN from wars, right??

Not willing to compromise one iota, and doing the piglet post of disdain for anyone who dares disagree with you.

Grab your hoe and torch and head for the castle. That is about the extent of your idea of a "social movement." And have the nerve to say you have the welfare of the common man in your heart. Pull the other leg, piglet.
So pretty much Jesus would be like,

that's hilarious.  Of course I can't say what He would do or say and neither can you, but didn't He teach to take care of those that can't take care of themselves?  It is very hypocritical of you to talk about a country that murders millions of babies being morally wrong and in the same breath say it's okay let children die or suffer because their parents could not afford (or chose not to purchase) good healthcare.  It's not the kids' fault if they got irresponsible parents or parents that were not in the upper-middle class.  Should they suffer for their parents' sins/shortcomings?


Now this is pretty funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhPxSm9Es0w


Got to love those tough questions!


The only possible way is pretty far-fetched...
but if his goal was to remain as President, he would not have to start a war. Could declare a national state of emergency. The President (any President) can declare a national state of emergency and at that point they can do just about whatever they want, including conceivably cancel a national election. There is provision for that in law. However...I can't see Congress allowing that. If he did that, he would be impeached fortwith (and so he should be if he tried something like that, if ANY President tried it). And absent a bonafide national emergency, I sure can't see him going down that road. That much of a cowboy he ain't.
that's pretty funny, especially like the hug
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You seemed pretty proud yourself
Like the other poster said, own up or take cover. Defend your candidate's views and positions or bash, slam ad slur to an audience of 1.
Pretty funny!


haha.... that's pretty LOW! That should be
(Though the latter does more closely resemble my own yearly income......)
This pretty much sums up most

My Answer To The President is a good read.......



http://www.campaignforliberty.com/


 


Pretty funny really.......
Obama making a statement earlier that "The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree".   Well, I guess he's right.  ACORN didn't fall far from his tree.  Matter of fact, he helped that ACORN get bigger and bigger and bigger!     
That's pretty cool....sm
to have something you're that passionate about, in your life. For me, it's the wildlife that I see out my window every day.


I was at our last farmer's market for the season the other day, and thought of you immediately, because the gal there, when I asked about this beautiful, large green gourd, what it was called (I thought it might be a certain kind, because it was round and smooth and tall)...and she goes, "It's a gourd, it just grew that way. You wait until it dries and then you can do all sorts of things with them, use as decorations, and even paint them...."

And I go to myself....gourdpainter!!!!


Pretty much shows
what we could expect from his administration.  More lunacy.  He wanted to win at all costs and he no doubt thought Palin would deliver Clinton supporter's votes.  After that fiasco how anyone can think he will turn this country around is beyond me.
seems pretty selfish....
no rights for the father....
Pretty hypocritical
that you can't thank one without smearing the other.
This pretty much sums up Mrs. M

This is one of her posts:  "Obama won by majority and It's time for people to back the new president and be patriotic."


Only a terrible racist person would suggest that we be supportive of our president and be PATRIOTIC!!! 


RIGHT?!


But, hey, if you guys allege it, it must be true.


It's pretty simple
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Pretty disgusting if you ask me
I thought the whole world was going to end if they didn't get their bail-out.  Key point:  Union leaders summoned to Detroit to make concessions.  Lower wages for American workers and the auto employees never made $70 an hour to begin with.  Guess they can look forward to wages competing with Mexican wages.
So pretty much you are interested in
throwing out smears that you are not willing to back up with facts, citations or examples and baiting other posters. You also don't seem to care how ignorant you sound, given the fact that it is patently clear you don't have a clue as to the meaning of racism or bigotry. You also seem quite unwilling to engage in any meaningful debate on the so-called pot-shot issues you fire off in your drive-bys. To top it all off, so far you have shown yourself to have a fairly juvenile, shallow, superficial and limited form of thinking.

Should you decide to step up to the plate and actually post something of substance you are willing to exercise some intellect over, I'll be more than happy to accommodate. In the meantime, I'd rather use my time more productively reading up on the latest news.
So pretty much you are interested in
throwing out smears that you are not willing to back up with facts, citations or examples and baiting other posters. You also don't seem to care how ignorant you sound, given the fact that it is patently clear you don't have a clue as to the meaning of racism or bigotry. You also seem quite unwilling to engage in any meaningful debate on the so-called pot-shot issues you fire off in your drive-bys. To top it all off, so far you have shown yourself to have a fairly juvenile, shallow, superficial and limited form of thinking.

Should you decide to step up to the plate and actually post something of substance you are willing to exercise some intellect over, I'll be more than happy to accommodate. In the meantime, I'd rather use my time more productively reading up on the latest news.