Privately owned board??
Posted By: Lurker on 2006-11-14
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Who owns it?? If it is private, why is it on MT Stars along with our company boards, and job hunting boards. I thought it was a part of MT Stars; if not, I don't think it should be here since it is an extremely biased forum. It seems to me to be a venue for a couple of people to espouse their very very conservative views and really that is about all. There is not much civil debate going on. There are only a couple of liberals left who post and most of us stay away a lot of the time because no matter what we say, we will be castigated. There is nothing liberal that is acceptable to this board. The conservatives carry on on their side and when they get tired of that, they come to the liberal side and lambast the liberals. Nothing that is not conservative (one single solitary definition of conservative at that) is acceptable. This has become almost a conservative blog. So, who do I write to to find out how this is run. I think this board ought to be removed from the auspices of MT. It has nothing to do with MT and it is privately owned by extremists. I am going to see what I can find out about ForuMatrix and how one goes about getting things changed. I don't think anything resembling the Drudge Report ought be on a **politics** board that appears on the surface to be all inclusive when it is not.
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It is an agency created by Congress, but is privately owned. sm
The stocks are owned by member banks, and they are private corporations. Every penny of income tax collected goes to private lenders for interest only on the national debt.
Quote from the Grace Commission report: "100% of what is collected is absorbed
solely by interest on the Federal Debt ...
all individual income tax revenues are gone
before one nickel is spent on the services
taxpayers expect from government."
I'll be PERFECTLY clear. MTStars is a PRIVATELY owned
website that contains posts made by the public. Because it is PRIVATELY owned, we reserve the right to operate the site how we see fit. If you have specific questions or concerns about this, you can email me directly at admin@mtstars.com.
The same person owns this board who owned it when it was on MTStars. sm
She has made herself known on this board several times and stated her rules. There are not many conservatives who post anymore either, Lurker, because of the whip lashing we took from liberals over the years. But do you see us whining about that all over the place? I don't think so. You can't follow the rules, because the rules do not apply to you. FormMatrix is a host for ths board, but the same person still administrates it. I wish you WOULD talk to her and stop with all of this. You come on our board and post and you always have. There have been some pretty egregious things said here over the years about the President, some of which probably should have been investigated by the FBI.
At least privately
hopefully it will not be bastardized into something else totally. Though I am still against it, I am ABSOLUTELY against government involvement of any kind. Very good allegory by the way.
I did and I owned up to it . . .
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Not afraid to admit it.
Most newspapers are liberal owned
So, it's not big suprise. Newspaper circulation is down in this country for several reasons the biggest one being is that they are just mouthpieces for the liberal agenda. The NYT is a huge example, and their circulation is dropping weekly. Like liberal news they refuse to accept that most of the blame is due to the glaring bias they have. The internet has also taken a big bite out of their profits as people who care about news are bypassing newspapers and T.V. to search out their news from the internet. You're right. Ann probably is not batting an eyelash about losing newspapers. They are a dying breed anyway...mostly from political suicide.
90% of Wall Street is owned and run by....sm
liberal democrats.
What percentage of homes are owned by
Does anyone have numbers?
WSJ is owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns Fox.....
"nuf said.
she didn't have a choice....stepfather owned everything
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Government owned Amtrak did not work
I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!
une 1st, 2009 12:45 PM Eastern
PHIL KERPEN: It Didn’t Work for Amtrak and It Won’t Work for GM, Either
By Phil Kerpen
Director, Americans for Prosperity
I cautiously cheered the Obama administration’s announcement 60 days ago that GM was on a path to bankruptcy court, because I was hopeful that it would represent an end to political manipulation of the company and a chance to get a clean balance sheet and a new shot as a private company. I couldn’t have been more wrong. Instead GM heads to bankruptcy court with a prepackaged deal that almost completely politicizes the company, with the U.S. government the new majority shareholder.
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Expect that, like Amtrak, GM will be government-run and subsidized to the tune of billions of taxpayers dollars for decades to come.
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Taxpayers were already on the hook for $20 billion of bailouts to GM, and today’s deal puts us on the hook for another $30 billion. Even worse, that $50 billion could be just the tip of the iceberg, because the government is now committed to owning and operating an automobile company that could run massive losses for years, even decades, to come.
Today’s New York Times quotes an administration official saying: “We don’t think that after this next $30 billion, they will need more money, but the fact is there are things you don’t know — like when the car market will come back, and how much Toyota and Honda and Volkswagen will benefit from the chaos.” In other words, who knows how much taxpayers will pay. Sky’s the limit.
In 1971, Amtrak was created, the Nixon administration said, “It is expected that the corporation would experience financial losses for about three years and then become a self-sustaining enterprise.” The Obama administration now claims that GM will be a publicly traded company again in six to 18 months. Expect that, like Amtrak, GM will be government-run and subsidized to the tune of billions of taxpayers dollars for decades to come.
The worst part is that government entities are run according to political, not economic, considerations. Every decision—about dealerships and plant closings, about suppliers, about which vehicles to build—will have to pass the Washington tests of political and environmental correctness.
Saab, Saturn, Hummer, and Pontaic will be shuttered. At least nine plants will close. These changes might make economic sense. But with government calling the shots, we will never be sure why certain plants were closed and others were spared.
The Obama administration’s big announcement on fuel-economy standards a couple of weeks ago and the president’s endless drumbeat that Detroit needs to make smaller and lighter cars and stop making trucks and SUVs is proof positive of this theory. Trucks have big margins, and could be a path to profitability. GM does need to find a way to make money on smaller cars, too, but does anyone really have confidence that being overseen and run by government bureaucrats will make that more likely to happen? Instead expect some government-by-committee to turn out vehicles with a Yugo-like design that nobody will want to buy and that taxpayers will end up subsidizing heavily.
General Motors was once an icon of American capitalism, but is now an exemplar of outright government control of a major industry, something completely un-American. Someone alert Karl Marx—we have government ownership of the means of production.
The legendary GM President Charles “Engine Charlie” Wilson was famous for saying in 1953: “For years I thought that what was good for our country was good for General Motors, and vice versa.”
Today President Obama echoed those sentiments, ending his speech by saying that he hopes that once again what is good for General Motors will be good for the United States of America. We can only hope that he is wrong! — that somehow, what’s being done to GM will not spread to the rest of our country and its economy. That somehow, we will resist the inexorable pull of endless bailouts and government control if we are to restore the free market system that made our country great.
Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch
same owner of Fox Noise
Well...if it puts Obama in a good light, it is probably owned by George Soros. nm
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Jet not sold on ebay, sold at a loss privately. nm
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So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,
some respect?
You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*
Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.
You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.
That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS. Your posts don't show respect. They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.
You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?
Please. Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.
You're becoming quite a bore. You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight. You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board. Maybe that should work both ways.
Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all. You believe in SUPERIORITY. Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else. Sheesh! You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.
You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred.
In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate. I've seen them. (I hope you don't chase them away, too.) But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.
Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.
Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board
Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate. Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.
I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc. After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come. Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.
I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates. What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board. Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin. You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.
Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin. The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby. Talk about just bizarre comments. I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet? The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre. Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations. I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.
I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam. Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics. I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the” This childish rhetoric is getting old. I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics. If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.
I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming. She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good. Let people express his or her opinion and move on. If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement) 
I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right. If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.
I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates. That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason. I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.
If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face.
Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.
To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.
Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.
This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.
The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
the conservative board is a liberal board now
you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred. It's not something I'd very proud of.
Politics board = political topics. Faith board = religious topics.
Please keep all religious/faith topics and discussions on the Faith board. This would involve your beliefs, whether Christian or atheist, etc.
The Politics board is strictly for political topics and discussions.
Moderator
Ya gotta understand the rules. We have to post on this board only. They can post on any board they
Corporation owned media does not bash Bush, they bash those that bash Bush.sm
Google Bush and vote fraud and there is tons of information about how many Americans 'voted' for Bush. Poor us and poor troops.
If you leave our board, I'll leave your board.
Well when one board
makes threats against a sitting president the rules change quite a bit.....
Look down board. sm.
They have no real concept of war. They don't understand that people are actually shooting at one another, and it affects families for decades, the price of so-called "Freedom" as he calls it. They have the Texan attitude, go kick butt, and while none of their's are over there, they cannot experience the true consequences of war, just wave their little flags and have no idea that war is freaking WAR. I hate this. They are not conservative - what is conservative about running up the deficit to the degree that it is at now - that is certainly not conservative. This war thing is just a CNN thing to them - something only happening on TV, something to occupy their time, they have no idea of how badly it can hurt and scar; they are as clueless as their leader.
You best look again at the other board.
I'm off the board
you have mistaken the above poster for me.
Again, I'm off the board
no other comments will be made by me other than to straighten out the fact that I'm not posting here anymore. 
It's all over the board. nm
Come on over to the C-board
You will be understood and accepted there. You are casting your pearls before swine here. These people are not the mainstream in America, believe me.
I am Christian, but sympathize greatly with the plight of the Jewish people.
Oh yes, mam, right here on this board. SM
Him and his whole family. Yessirree. It happened.
You must be new to the board...nm
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This board
This has been a very intolerant board for years. I think it just gets worse at election time. I come here on and off, depending on how busy I am and how feisty I feel! They are intolerant, but I don't really care. I guess they think their nastiness is going to convince people to see things their way, NOT!
Go Obama!
Exactly ...but those on this board don't want
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Does anyone on this board
Because my understanding is that Obama is only raising taxes on people making more than this amount, & the increase would only be for the amount over 250K, & that rate would be the same as it was under Clinton.
On the one hand it's "taking from the rich & giving to the poor" -- & on the other hand, I can't get too upset because some millionaire is only going to get an 18-carat toilet bowl instead of a 24-carat-gold one. & there are so many loopholes in the tax laws, they're going to employ legions of accountants to make sure they write off enough to bring their taxes down to something they're more comfortable with anyway -- probably less than what I pay.
Obama has said a number of times that he wants to end tax breaks for companies that offshore. Now THAT affects me directly. It's an incentive to keep jobs in the US, & that seems to be the subject of a LOT of talk on this board of late.
I'm not registered as a Democrat. I'm actually a Libertarian, but I have a feeling that this election I'm going to vote Democratic. Sarah Palin clinched that deal. What a ditz. I'd be embarrassed to have her represent this country. If you haven't heard her talk yet, go to youtube & find her interview with Katie Couric, & read the NY Times for a long list of very eloquent, VERY conservative columnists who do not like her at all & who talk about the Republican party insiders who wanted her removed from the ticket because she is clearly unprepared to lead the country. What can you say about someone who cannot name a single Supreme Court decision besides Roe v Wade, who cannot name a single publication that contributed to her world view or political philosophy, who thinks that her geographic proximity to Russia constitutes a foreign policy credential, who does not know what causes global warming, who cannot even name a single piece of legislation her own running mate was responsible for in his 26 years in public office?? Good grief. McCain's underestimation of the American public's intelligence is demeaning & has destroyed any credibility he ever had with me, & believe me, he used to have some. I'm still waiting to hear her answer a single question with intelligence & depth, turn every question into an opportunity to spew her predigested, scripted talking points because she simply doesn't have anything else.
Anyway. I digress. The issue was taxes.
Not on this board, lol!
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then why are u still on the board nm
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I'm not sure it came from this board but (sm)
it is not someone that I have any friendship with, so I was just questioning if anyone was getting these. If I was positive it came from this board, I would have reported it.
Then why oh why are you on this board?
I see such race hating, race baiting, hatred, on and on. There are still people with racist issues -they are all over this board.
You just let everyone here on this board KNOW exactly HOW you think..
and I am glad to know that the majority of people here do not have your hateful and rabidly racist bent.
What about what YOU said on the conservative board?
I try not to visit the bog of eternal stench. Funny though...sm
The very people who whine about "intelligent debate" now have whole threads devoted to crying to their mommy about being asked to be respectful. Pitiful.
I agree - please only one board
I liked it so much better the other way. Being an independent who usually votes Republican, I like to see exchange of ideas, even if it gets somewhat heated at times. I think most people have enough sense to know that Americans have the right to their opinions, and enjoy a lively debate. That is JUST MY OPINION, if anyone cares.
Sorry, thought I was on the C board
I won't post here again....it was a mistake. If you want to answer the question or flame me that's fine. I'm not on my own computer right now, and flipped me back to this board....sorry.
Wrong board
Actually, I'm not sure you went to the wrong board at all. If you chose "Politics" in general and you saw the headline of the post and clicked on it, you automatically wind up there and don't necessarily realize that's where you're at. Even Nan and American Girl have done that, and I believe those errors of theirs is still on this page.
If this post of yours is an example of how you post, I can't understand why in the world you would be banned, but then again, I can't understand why three certain posters on that board get AREN'T banned, so I guess I just don't understand much about this place. I note that they kept Nan's post calling someone a "slimy bottom dweller," as well as all their other posts where they attack posters.
My personal opinion is that if you want to be free to think independently and express that opinion without being ganged up on and attacked, then maybe you should continue to post on this board. I personally am interested in what you have to say. Although I just visited the Conservative board, and for the first time in a long time, find it to be a peaceful place where people are starting to debate again without being attacked by those three. Unfortunately, I doubt that will last very long. They will be back if they aren't already, and whatever goodness is there now will be once again destroyed and people won't be allowed to express their opinions without being attacked.
Again, I can't even begin to understand why you've been banned in the past, and if your post is an example of what the monitor had to "put up with," by all means PLEASE keep posting because I think you're definitely a breath of fresh air! Welcome!!
create another board
You know, what this bulletin *system* needs is a bashing board. I used to post at a relatively calm board and some wanted to pick fights no matter what..The owner in her wisdom created a bashing board where those who have anger, upset, whatever and wanted to bash could and could also leave those other boards alone which did not want turmoil. Maybe the owners here could do that. I dont know who owns this board. I have been told it no longer is owned by the owner of MTstars..Maybe if the owner reads this, he or she will create another board for **Political wars**..
You said: And some of that is very evident on this board.
WHERE IS IT EVIDENT ON THIS BOARD????
This is what you wrote:
"Attacking and wishing family members to burn in hell, examining the adoption records of Roberts, casting aspersions that his 4-year-old son is gay, that HE is gay (Roberts) because he didn't marry until he was 40. The far left has dragged the Democratic party into the pits of hell. And some of that is very evident on this board."
SHOW ME ONE POST ON THIS BOARD WHERE ANYONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIS 4-YEAR-OLD BEING GAY OR THAT HE WAS GAY (FIRST I EVER HEARD OF ANY OF THIS).
WHERE ON THIS BOARD IS IT SO *EVIDENT* TO YOU??
I don't believe that any poster on this or the other board
wished any poster to die and burn in hell. I remember someone so frustrated with Bush that she once said that Bush will burn in hell. She was frustrated, just like Pat Robertson, who your gang chalks up to freedom of speech.
The comment wasn't aimed at one of you, but yet you have to twist it and turn it into a total LIE before it's fit for you to write.
I, for one, wish you WOULD go back to your board where hatefulness and lies are a way of life.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I've caught you in enough lies that i will NEVER believe anything you say.
P.S. I thought you said you were going to Iraq. YEAH... RIGHT... Add THAT to your never-ending list of lies, as well. You don't have the guts to do it any more than you have the guts to tell the truth about anything.
You're putrid. Just go away.
Give it up, sm, I did. Come on over to the C board. :) NM
Sorry, wrong board. NM
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What about your trolling our board? SM
And if you say it didn't happen, you would be lying. It happened over and over again. And until you threatened to kill someone, we never went to the administrator. Why are you prolonging going. GO! You have numerous posts on here. I'm going, almost gone, really I really am going, out the door, I'm leaving now. Go already. I never promised not to come here. I left, but I didn't promise. Frankly, your inability to either ignore conservative posters or, at the very least, debate them without malice has me stymied. So go.
Don't look, better yet, stay on your own board.
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