Pubs can't stay on task if their lives depended on it.
Posted By: Facts confuse them so they bolt. sm on 2008-09-08
In Reply to: The Whiner's Recession - sm
Americans don't elect issues wimps.
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Couldn't stay on message if his life depended on it.
culture wars, racism, bigotry and character assassination are the cornerstones of his campaign. Vote for me or face Armageddon. Guts? Principles?
Obama will give tax break incentives to businesses who keep jobs stateside. Fair trade versus free trade. He has addressed offshoring directly. "Reduce taxes" for whom? Extend tax cuts for the rich and leave FT Agreement intact that sent our jobs flying overseas in the first place?
What about McCain is NOT pure politician? Please enlighten us on that one. Stand up and fight is exactly what O did the minute he got his law degree. Mobilizing communities translates to mobilizing political parties into bipartisan cooperation....something he has clearly demonstrated during the course of his political career.
What principles have McCain stood on recently? In fact, exactly what is the message of his campaign....and I do not mean the highjacked "change" slogan? Can anyone out there identify a message in all that lurching and chicken-with-his-head-cut-off rhetoric? There is a reason he is behaving like that. He is running scared...why? Because 90% cannot on any level show anybody how he would be any different than "we share the same philosophy" Bush. His incompetent campaign is sending republicans scattering to the 4 winds, defections rampant and what about the poor down-ticket candidates? Puleeze.
No, let's don't. Let's stay on task.
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Again. Could you PLEASE stay on task.
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Sorry. Just trying to stay on task.
Thread started out about hate speech, then turned toward lawsuit. Silly me. Do you always change the subject when you start to look stupid? The only plants at the SP rallies spring up from the seeds of bigotry and racism that come spilling out of her mouth every time she opens it...in the form of a crop of hateful ignorance. Must make you feel right proud.
You as well need to stay on task...
Fact. He has said he is going to give a tax break to 95% of the American people. 40% of the American people don't even pay federal taxes. How can you give a tax break to people who don't even pay taxes? In the form of a check. How ELSE is he going to do that? THAT is classic redistribution of wealth Marxist style. Either he is lying about the 95%, or he is going to cut a lot of checks. YOU tell ME how he is going to do it.
As far as Palin...you really need to focus here. Yes, she did a windfall profits task. And yes, she distributed it to the Alaskan people. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, rich and poor alike, every single citizen of Alaska. That is NOT redistribution of wealth. See the difference? And it is not taking from the tax coffers that everyone in Alaska paid into...which is what Obama is going to do. He is going to tax small businesses and the so-called rich (the threshold for which gets smaller every day) and redistribute that to 95% of people...40% of whom don't even pay federal income tax.
Marxist re-distribution of wealth.
No soup for you either, but plenty of ice cream.
I think you're the one who needs to stay on task
you even asked it. Go back up a few posts and you'll see where I said:
"I'd say the same about anyone who dies after they cast their vote but before the election. It shouldn't count. Where's the accountability?"
Anyone would refer to grandma, pap, brother, sis, aunt, uncle, etc.
Geez, you people make it so easy for me to feel smart. 
Next time, please try to stay on post task.
1st paragraph. I agree. That's why O's and B's supporters are voting for them. Not more government. Better government...smarter government…and one with vision for a different America than what you cons are peddling. You are straying from the subject again. Pay attention. The discussion is about O and JM how JM's plan differs from Bush's plan. On the voting record, last time I checked only O and JM are running for president and those are the voting records we are inspecting now. It is the 90+% of MC'CAIN'S votes in support of Bush's initiatives that we now showcase. Do not complicate the plan comparisons with a whole bunch of smoke and mirrors peripheral unknowns. Candidates. Got it?
Have it your way. Bush adopted O's exit strategy first and JM followed his lead who followed O's lead. He did not start talking exit at all until the Bush flip-flop(s) (i.e., we dont negotiate with terrorists but a US interests section in Iran might work) began getting press during the primary campaigns. I have not had time to examine the context from which you lifted O's surge statement from the other O's Fox interview which you continually and confidently predicted he was too scared to do. Once I do that, I will comment further on the surge statement. Don't know how to tell you this, but the surge was not the greatest national security/foreign policy decision, although it is plain to see that the cons often get military strategies pretty mixed up with foreign policy. Again, ask the Iraqis how successful our missions have been at slaughtering more than 100,000 of their family members. Another bubble to burst here. There are many among us who do not feel that the war has made our nation safer from terrorists. So, in fact, we are not done with this subject, no matter how quickly you would like to dismiss it. Obama was simply trying to avoid MORE quagmire and advance the withdrawal plan that is not only promoted by him, but now suddently promoted by Bush and JM in tow. Some call it vision, others call it judgment.
Did not ask about JMs speeching. Asked about the plan. What is it, if he laid it out so plainly? Must have missed all that between the fear/military references last night. BTW, as I told you in the past post, govt transparency is a democratic initiative that was launched back in the early 90s during the Clinton administration, squashed during the undercover Bush administration and is now clearly articulated in O's technology section under issues.
Cons cannot speak for democrats as to how they can or cannot define pork barrel spending. I know very well what it is. I do find your example of moveon.org rather peculiar in this context. When was the last time they benefited from pork barrel legislation? Please do not reply with a regurgitation of Fox and O'Reilly campaign to demonize the group. You want to talk PACs, fine, but put them in the correct context and tread very lightly for your own sake.
The class warfare is waged by pubs against dem constituents, so yes, I am familiar with that subject and plan to continue to advocate and support measures that will level that playing field. I have a lot of company in that regard. TBone advocates drilling once or twice inside the context of a whole arsenal of other energy initiatives that you discount by omission. He does not, however, try to sell the public on the notion that this will bring prices down anytime in the first of second terms of the upcoming administrations like JM and company would have us believe. On the American imperialist delusions of grandeur, if you have to ask, no soup for you. Would be a waste of time, but this concept is not lost on the better versed in Bush/Cheney NeoCon visions which JM is trying to deny and embrace at the same time. Good luck with that one.
Stay on task, sam. This thread is about refuting
Guess you can't reconcile facts staring you straight in the face with the fiction you couldn't wait to post. Again, if O voted against Katrina funds, there had to have been something REALLY stinky the proposal, and I for one prefer to wait and see exactly what it was before passing judgment.
Why do pubs have so much trouble staying on task?
I like facts. Troopergate has lots of them. Try reading it. Then try answering the questions. Challenge yourself. Get though one single entire post, begining to end, without trashing Obama. Can you handle that? Probably not, but give it your best shot. By the way, there is only one person here who you need to educate....and it ain't me, babe.
Why do pubs have such difficulty staying on task?
Evidently smearing the dems is more important to you than equal pay for women. With this kind of tendency to self destruct, no wonder you folks lost so many elections.
Can't answer a question if your life depended on it.
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I am on task.
You answered your own challenge here. Of course you cannot reduce taxes, give tax breaks (or whatever other ill-considered literal read you may choose) on people who do not pay them. That would lead any person with a triple-digit IQ to conclude that he is referring to people currently paying taxes....wouldn't it? Your main premise is faulty, as in flawed, caput, no dice, etc. Let's state the obvious again, in case you weren't paying attention. You can't cut something that is not there. We agree on that one.
However, we not agree on your assertion that Obama is lying. According to you, any movement of wealth out of the hands of those who earned it into the hands of those who didn't is redistribution of wealth. Perhaps those fat cat oil company CEOs and stockholders would not agree with your argument. The O windfall profit proposal is a one-time jump-start energy rebate aimed at economic stimulus for middle class families, who in case you haven't noticed lately, are having a helluva of time. It is not a permanent scheme where Americans become "collective owners" of the resource (decidedly more Marxist) as Palin's is...income sharing at its finest hour. There is a difference, all right, but not the one you are willing to concede.
Again, we see you dance around the issue of the long-established progressive tax structure question and just how is it socialist only when Obama reforms it? You cannot seem to answer that fundamental central issue, can you?
Not interested in taking this off task.
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You seem to be having a little trouble staying on task.
Let's try this again. The subjct is guilt by association. The post you are answering listed Mc'Cain's associates as follows:
Just off the top of my head:
1. US Council for World Freedo. Can you say Iran contra? How about dong business with terrorists (the arms seller AND the arms customer)?
2. Phil Gramm, (co-chair of the McCain campaign), champion of Enron tax loopholes and author of Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that effectively neutralized any existing regulation of financial services industry. You remember good ole Phil. He's the one talking on McCain's behalf when he said we were having a "mental recession" and we have a nation of a bunch of whiners.
3. Gordon Liddy. That's the guy who got a 20-year sentence for his conviction of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping in the Watergate fiasco. m
4. Let's don't forget the Keating 5.
5. Richard Quinn, publisher of Southern Heritage ragazine for neo-confederates…unapologetic bigotry and proud of it!
6. Rick Davis, McCain CEO, lobbyist, paid $15,000 each month for "consulting" from end of 2005 until September 2008.
Let me spell out the issue at hand. If we are to infer that Obama embodies the phuilisophies of each and every single person or organization that he has ever encountered dring the corse of his lifetime, then we can infer the same about McCain. Are you with me so far? an appropriate, direct and credible response would not include the word democrat in it. It would deal with the issue at hand and with the list of pub snakes McCain pals around with.
I also think it has to do with what they have done in their lives...
Michelle has, through her career, spoken in public many times, and in her profession I am sure speaks before groups, boards, etc. She was also very active in the primary season. She is no stranger to public speaking.
Cindy McCain has been a doer, not a talker, as far as her humanitarian stuff. THat is not to imply that Michelle Obama has not done anything...just that Cindy McCain is not one of those people comfortable in the spotlight. And different personalities...I think Michelle Obama is definitely type A...what energy!
Thank God for the lives that were
into the Hudson River! Everyone that I have seen interviewed have said something to the effect that they were praying during that ordeal.
*As an athiest, I can assure you that I am not looking to fill a vacancy. I belive in the human race -- the drive, will, and instinct that drive any species to success* I doubt seriously that any of them will be talking about believing in the human race any time soon!
Chavez Takes Bush to Task Over Iraq War
See link
Counting by hand of 100 million votes would be a task...sm
Not that it is an unworthy one, I just doubt it will be done.
One idea was that the computer gives the voter a reciept of their selection and then the reciept, once verified by the voter, is deposited into the machine.
Brainstorming, I suggest they take it one step further and have a real time tally for each candidate per voting center. That way the voters can verify that their vote was casted, counted, and affected the number. The last voters, along with the volunteers could verify the final numbers for the districts.
You evidently have a hard time staying on task.
if your mother, father, daughter, son, grandmother, grandfather, husband or best friend cast a vote in the early election and passed away on November 4th, how would it make you feel if their votes were thrown out?
empty lives.
Bleak winter months. No interests. Can this explain it? The criticisms seem so weak and lacking in any real conviction. Is it merely failure to accept the inevitable? The years of carping from the right have ended. Perhaps lack of adaptability? Does not bode well according to Darwinism. Fade away, fade away, fade away..
continued...save lives????
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The people there are risking their lives
Of course, not as much as the troops, but there are attempts, shootings, bombs, threats, etc.
I never said that the troops should just do their jobs. I worked along side military members from every branch of service. But, if you choose to be in the military, you have a lot more to worry about than some people protesting.
People have been protesting the military for several years now (all of my life-time and then some), and it is not going to change. Do I agree with all protesting? No. But, as long as they are obeying the law, they are within their rights.
Very sad. Our soldiers are giving their lives....sm
and they are coming home severly injured to less than adequate medical care after excellent care in the field, no psychological counseling, no support for their families, deplorable living conditions, and on and on. I believe this war is wrong but support the troops 100%. Disgraceful!
Amanda has really summed up most of our lives and
it is scary. I wonder how many transcription companies will close their doors within the next year. The top 3 transcription companies may be all that are left before long.
Tell that to the people who lives in areas like
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Will Days of Our Lives be on tomorrow?
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He's set and his family is set for the rest of their lives
Why should he care about us. He just plain doesn't and it's coming out every day.
Punish the hard working, honest people.
Politicians and their love lives
aren't really important to me. This guy didn't lie under oath about his affair. Clinton did but I still really don't care. There peckers and/or cigars aren't my concern. I'm more concerned about how our country is being run and the money being spent, etc. Affairs are things that happen too often. I don't condone that type of behavior but they will have to pay the consequences for their actions. More important issues to discuss than this.
So, when do all the groupies renounce their worldly lives...
and start selling flowers at the airport?
Not revenge!-to save innocent lives from MORE
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YIPES the rabid cons are taking over..Run for your lives
Liberals..YIPES..run for your life..this board has been taken over by rabid conservatives..I decided the other day not to read the posts from the conservatives who have the nerve to come over here and start trouble..Their posts are like fungus, they just keep multiplying.
Obama lives in a fantasy land of his own making.
Unfortunately, he is also a gifted speaker and is leading many people down the yellow brick road to a magical make believe land. Too bad Obama can't see the big picture of anything.
sorry - the man is not a pollworker - is a poll watcher and lives in the building - nm
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yeah, but i turned on the TV to watch Days of Our Lives
and everyone watching that channel was doing so to watch Days of Our Lives. If we wanted to watch news, we would turn to news channels.
People who want less gov't interference in their lives (CONSERVATIVES) are being labeled..sm
Those who attend the Tea Parties are being labeled "right wing extremists." As an organizer of a Tea Party in my town, I am going to wear that label with pride. Below is the quote from the Dept. of Homeland Security:
On the eve of the nationwide tax day Tea Parties, Barack Obama's DHS has issued a "rightwing" threat assessment to warn of the "current economic and political climate fueling resurgence in radicalization and recruitment" for "rightwing extremism." Who are these extremists? According to the report, adherants are rimarily "hate-oriented" or "antigovernment" but also include "individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."
Personally, I think it is more than quite a coincidence that Obama's DHS is warning of the "rightwing" threat on the eve of the Tea Parties! This is a blatant attempt to taint the efforts of those who are standing for a patriotic, idea-based resistance.
Anything or anyone who does not toe the Obamarama line or has not drunk the kook-aid, is automatically considered a "right wing extremist."
There is a 10 page document put out by an office which is a branch of the Dept Homeland Security called "The Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division. Coordinated with the FBI.
There are 4 words that should make you very nervous....COORDINATED WITH THE FBI. Below is the link to download or read the PDF file.
http://api.ning.com/files/UNNlkOVukw8cXztJc4bDEq2ztrm9owekwvHofmLwYgxLlpwX8*h1av8amHehbYkmt3Qvxny16Gh1ob8gFYeRrw2HVq-joU7Y/hsarightwingextremism0904071.pdf
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Remember,Rome decayed from within.
Ok, off my soapbox.
Big Brother is I believe a covert force infiltrating each and every one's personal lives without
their knowledge. That is hardly the same thing as a poster on an MT board noticing that 4 different names post the same thing. I think that is creepy. I have been on this board for a long time and I recognize patterns, phrases that are repeated verbatim from far in the past, things people remember about me and say something like ***weren't you the one who ....*** and it is posted under a name different from the original. I leave Big Brother to our shadow government, wherever they are.
grrr...obama and bush interruped Days of Our Lives nm
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People wanting less gov't interference in their lives (CONSERVATIVES) are being labeled......sm
Those who attend the Tea Parties are being labeled "right wing extremists." As an organizer of a Tea Party in my town, I am going to wear that label with pride. Below is the quote from the Dept. of Homeland Security:
On the eve of the nationwide tax day Tea Parties, Barack Obama's DHS has issued a "rightwing" threat assessment to warn of the "current economic and political climate fueling resurgence in radicalization and recruitment" for "rightwing extremism." Who are these extremists? According to the report, adherants are rimarily "hate-oriented" or "antigovernment" but also include "individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."
Personally, I think it is more than quite a coincidence that Obama's DHS is warning of the "rightwing" threat on the eve of the Tea Parties! This is a blatant attempt to taint the efforts of those who are standing for the patriotic, idea-based resistance.
Anything or anyone who does not toe the Obamarama line or has not drunk the kook-aid, is automatically considered a "right wing extremist."
There is a 10 page document put out by an office which is a branch of the Dept Homeland Security called "The Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division. Coordinated with the FBI.
There are 4 words that should make you very nervous....COORDINATED WITH THE FBI. Below is the link to download or read the PDF file.
http://api.ning.com/files/UNNlkOVukw8cXztJc4bDEq2ztrm9owekwvHofmLwYgxLlpwX8*h1av8amHehbYkmt3Qvxny16Gh1ob8gFYeRrw2HVq-joU7Y/hsarightwingextremism0904071.pdf
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Remember,Rome decayed from within.
Ok, off my soapbox.
can stay.
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What happens if you stay
informed? That means what to you or me? It does you what good? It helps you out how? It makes a difference in how Washington is run? I think your statement sounds stup..
Don't look, better yet, stay on your own board.
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stay on your board
They just cant stay on their own board cause it has no information other than liberal bashing and then they are patting each other on the back, LOL. They should change the name of their board to **I drank Bush's Kool Aid** board.
Stay on your board please.
I put this site up for the liberals, yet you people just cannot stay off this board. Hannity has a board where everyone will agree with you, why not go there?
So much for who can't stay away from our board.
Today on the conservative board, there were 10 new posts, and not ONE LIBERAL posted any of them.
Today on the liberal board, there were 20 new conservative posts.
20 to 0.
Obviously they find their own board boring since they posted twice as many posts here as they did on their own board. But then we already knew that, didn't we? 
no way, jose....needs to stay til it's over...
They have to stay objective. It's their job.
One of our family members is a well-known political analyst on t.v. At family functions, we all hear the full-on opinions. Believe me, reporters are human, and they certainly do have their opinions! But their job isn't to discuss their own point of view. It is amazing, though, isn't it? I don't think I could control myself if I had to interview some of these people!
Thanks, but I will stay without my legs
without my boots and with my copy of the Notebook. Don't let the door bump you in the butt.
Let's stay focused here.............sm
this is not about whether Obama has ever appointed a SC justice. This is about Obaman's PROVEN stance on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. This is about the FACT that he squelched the bill in Illinois when he, as head of the Health and Human Services Committee, had every opportunity to push this bill through. This is about the FACT that he contradicted himself when he said he "would have voted for it" in Washington (had he been a Senator at the time). This is about the FACT that he is talking out of both sides of his face and lying to the American sheeple who he believes are too dumb and awestruck by his very presence to grow a brain and go out and look for this information on their own.
Obama cannot be trusted.
yes..but the revenue does not stay here. nm
still no message
Timid or not they'd do well to stay far away from me.
As if Arkansas doesn't have enough of the creatures already, they released a bunch of rattlesnakes and copperheads in Devil's Den State Park a few years back and that's not too far for them to slither up this way. Those varmits are most definitely not timid and I fear to go outside at night without a flashlight lest I encounter one of them..
Not really. She's no dummy and if she wants to stay
especially should she end up in a senior-level position, she will really not have a whole lot of wiggle room since all eyes will be turned on her because of all the concerns which are being voiced on this forum and in the media. She did not exactly "take charge" in the senate as a junior member and as SOS, she will be in a position to take her cues from many others besides her own DH.
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