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See inside. I can't figure out what to title this. LOL

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2009-01-26
In Reply to: Here's the real story if you're interested - Truthseeker

I just don't know a nice way to say this but those families that have babies they can't afford do so just to get on the welfare system. They certainly don't want that taken away from them. As long as they have babies, they won't have to work and live off the system.


What does Pelosi plan to do? Force everyone on birth control that have X amount of dollars per each child and state "You make $1 less than you're allowed to have this many children. Now you go on birth control." 


Before you flame me, my husband's cousin did that. He was too lazy to work as was his wife...well, nah, she didn't have time to get a job. She was too busy having kids. 


 


 




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If I knew he was, I would not hesitate to call him one. I do know he is a socialist, and I call him one.<br /> <br /> No need to ridicule and call others ignorant to make a point. It somewhat dulls any point you try to make. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Don't think you read the same article, THAT IS THE TITLE...see the link I posted..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Don-39t-think-you-read-the-same-article-THAT-IS-THE-TITLE-see-the-link-I-posted--42212.html">Don't think you read the same article, THAT IS THE TITLE...see the link I posted...</a><br /> <P> xx</P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Did you notice the question mark at the end of the article's title?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Did-you-notice-the-question-mark-at-the-end-of-the-article-39s-title--46765.html">Did you notice the question mark at the end of the article's title?</a><br /> Do you understand the meaning of "potential?" Imagine that. Judges have a "natural predisposition" toward complying with the DEMOCRATIC WILL OF THE PEOPLE. What a crazy and novel idea. <br /> <br /> The truth has been out there for quite a while now. There is no THERE there. This is sheer lunacy, but hey, knock yourselves out. Nobody's listening to this garbage and the entire nation has much more pressing issues to worry about, but to remind you of them here would be a complete waste of time, in view of this myopic obsessive fixation of a marginalized tiny fringe minority of the GOP (which has been recently denounced by other, more intelligent republicans). <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="You miss the title of the file "Conservative extremism"? " href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-You-miss-the-title-of-the-file-34Conservative-extremism-34--57502.html">You miss the title of the file "Conservative extremism"? </a><br /> xx <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Provide a link to the document with that title. None of the official copies I've seen use the wor" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Provide-a-link-to-the-document-with-that-title-None-of-the-official-copies-I-39ve-seen-use-the-wor-57653.html">Provide a link to the document with that title. None of the official copies I've seen use the wor</a><br /> nm <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="How do you figure?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-How-do-you-figure--45760.html">How do you figure?</a><br /> Don't see anything unraveling except more of W's disastrous economic fall-out. You must have been watchin Focks Noise non-stop replay of the guilt-by-association-to-nowhere mantra. Sooner or later, you are going to have to get over the election and move on. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="How you figure that?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-How-you-figure-that--30375.html">How you figure that?</a><br /> xx <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Go figure. " href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Go-figure--42110.html">Go figure. </a><br /> x <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="I'm still trying to figure out what" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-I-39m-still-trying-to-figure-out-what-55543.html">I'm still trying to figure out what</a><br /> "voted in the decider..." means.  Anyone got a clue?  <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="trying to figure this out..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-trying-to-figure-this-out--55662.html">trying to figure this out...</a><br /> If not for the war in Iraq where we spent billions of dollars, and I don't mean to open another can of worms here, we wouldn't have to print or borrow money!<br /> <br /> I know we don't want to digress, but please stop blaming the fact that we have to resort to these measures on the current adminstration. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="You should be able to figure out the" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-You-should-be-able-to-figure-out-the-57982.html">You should be able to figure out the</a><br /> ...I'm sure you know JTBB as well as she knows herself. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Still trying to figure out what " href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Still-trying-to-figure-out-what--61440.html">Still trying to figure out what </a><br /> <P>you would have had him do....stand there folding it like a doofus folding towels in a laundromat?  I dunno, seems that might have reduced the dramatic impact somehow.  He had the knife in one hand, which would have made folding a tricky thing to accomplish.  Seriously, not sure how else he could have handled the flag, given the situation.  Maybe throw it over one shoulder like a toga?  One would assume those who had improperly hung the flag might have been nearby, maybe a little P.O.'d over his cutting it down.  When ''exigent circumstances'' exist, you get the flag down as efficiently as possible and worry about the frills later.  Tell us all, exactly what would Amanda do?</P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="My take, go figure, is completely different..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-My-take-go-figure-is-completely-different--25850.html">My take, go figure, is completely different...</a><br /> and I am an independent, not a Republican. First of all, he questioned her like she is running for President. She isn't. I would like Bill Clinton to have had this kind of questioning when he first ran for President having only been a governor. He would have done no better than she has, but the left would have sung his praises. Such is politics.<br /> <br /> Politics aside, she did well. She avoided the traps he laid, and there were many.<br /> As to avoiding answering questions and only hitting the talking points...did you watch the Obama-O'Reilly interview? Danced all around subjects and would not commit to anything. I don't hear any on the left complaining that he tried to evade questions and threw out talking points.<br /> <br /> Keeping the money from the bridge to nowhere...states do that every day. Lobbyists for Alaska...earmarks. Joe Biden's son was a professional lobbyist until yesterday and he and dad did a great many deals while Dad has been in Congress (I guess they finally decided they really could not dump on lobbyists when they had them in the family). Obama has worked with lobbyists as well, has some on his advisory staff. And as far as earmarks...he got elected, Michelle Obama's hospital doubled her salary, and Obama earmarked a million plus for them. Who benefitted from that? Fact is, all politicians have done that. What you don't say here is what Palin explained very well...the earmarks they seek to stop are the crooked under the table ones, attaching huge earmarks to bills to get them passed that would not otherwise pass. The earmarks that were asked for by <a class=word href=http://www.mtstars.com/medical_transcription/Alaska/>Alaska</a> were by the Fish and Game Commission in Alaska. It is perfectly fine for states to request funds from Washington. Some get them, some don't. 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style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN>health care?  And all of this - plus much more - was put in an 1100-page document nobody who voted on it could even read?</FONT></FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>Even though this is all mostly a done deal, I still cannot go along with the can't-we-all-get-along; wait-and-see crowd.  Of course we’ll all just have to ‘sweat it out’ now, what choice?<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>This is so reminiscent of the FDR New Deal 70 years ago that I cannot believe we have learned nothing from history</FONT><SPAN style=FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial>. <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN></SPAN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman>What am I saying?<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>Of course I can believe it.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>We’re still idiots! </FONT></FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>Tell me if any of this sounds familiar:</FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>‘We seldom know six weeks in advance, what we are going to do.’<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>‘It is common sense, to take a method and try it: if it fails, admit it frankly and try another.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>But above all, try something.’<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>FDR </FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>Some of the things he tried:</FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman>National Recovery Act (fixed prices and wages).<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>Forced smaller companies out of business, since lower wages and prices where the only way they could compete with big companies.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman><SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman>A law in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st=on><st1:City w:st=on>Washington</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st=on>DC</st1:State></st1:place>, mandating a minimum monthly wage for women (only), resulting in women losing their jobs to men who were willing to work for much less than that guaranteed wage.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman><SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>Agricultural Adjustment Act (subsidized farms by taking acreage out of production and fixed prices).<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>Designed to curb overproduction and support prices.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>In reality production rose because farmers used their cash subsidies to buy fertilizer, and they had taken their worst acreage out of production anyway.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>They switched to the crops whose prices were guaranteed, hence, even more overproduction. </FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>Works Progress Administration (to provide employment and improve infrastructure).<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>Turned into a giant political patronage system to reward supporters with ‘shovel-leaning’ jobs and to punish detractors.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>To get most such jobs, you had to declare your political party, ‘vote right’ and ‘tithe’ to the D party.</FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>Emergency Relief Act (made available to governors to assist the needy in their states).<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>Since it was supported by huge tax increases, it all but shut off voluntary charitable contributions that traditionally went to the needy.</FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>Excise taxes arbitrarily levied on a few luxury items of the rich such as yachts, furs and jewelry, but also on cars, gasoline, radios, cosmetics, cameras, bank checks, long-distance phone calls and movie tickets used by lower-income groups.</FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>Tariffs on imported goods, which caused other countries to retaliate by taxing or not buying our goods and damaged our export business.</FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman>Top income tax bracket for the too-rich (only) 79% <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN>and the IRS was used as a weapon to harass and punish the wealthy, as well as critics of New Deal policies. <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN><st1:place w:st=on>Roosevelt</st1:place> was incensed that the wealthy (though he was born to wealth) <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN>used tax loopholes such as charitable deductions and business losses to legally avoid taxes, so he instructed the IRS and Congress to close them. <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN>Meanwhile, FDR himself used such loopholes to deduct the value of materials he donated for his own future presidential library. <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN>He took business losses and farm losses on his personal tax returns.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman><SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman><st1:place w:st=on>Roosevelt</st1:place> was one of those silver-spoon guys, subsidized by someone else’s money (his mother’s) his entire life.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>He failed repeatedly in businesses financed by family money. <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN>He had a solid record of picking losers; he thought the airplane was a fad. <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN>He had a lackluster academic career.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>Never held a ‘real’ job. His only talents were his personality and charisma.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman><SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman>Yes, FDR inherited the beginnings of the Great Depression from Herbert Hoover in 1933,<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>but <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN><st1:place w:st=on>Roosevelt</st1:place>’s repeated ‘try something’ efforts to fix it kept it going until World War II.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><br /> <P><FONT size=3><FONT face=Times New Roman><SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Times New Roman" size=3>Any of this starting to sound familiar? <SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes> </SPAN>We’ve been at this exact pivotal point before and we are blowing it again.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>Elected another snake oil salesman.<SPAN style=mso-spacerun: yes>  </SPAN>Way to go.</FONT></P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="I cannot figure what ever caused you to" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-I-cannot-figure-what-ever-caused-you-to-56359.html">I cannot figure what ever caused you to</a><br /> have such deep hatred for Republicans, especially President Bush. It certainly isn't anything he ever did as president as your posts indicate that your hatred for him began at his first inauguration. I also get the feeling that you will never be able to let it go, as you constantly bring it up in almost every post you make. The major difference between you two that stands out is that he is a Christian and you are an atheist. He does not believe in abortion and you chose to have one. Maybe you have a guilt problem that you are trying to overcome before you can move on? <br /> <br /> However, I can't see how you can use your hatred for Bush to justify Obama speaking to the French town hall meeting and, essentially, telling the world that America is not special to him and that Europe is the greatest nation. How can you say that is doing an awesome job? <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="And technically how do you figure that?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-And-technically-how-do-you-figure-that--61845.html">And technically how do you figure that?</a><br /> My husband is currently on active duty in Iraq, doing everything he can to stay alive to come home to his family.  He is being shot at and has had suicide bombers attack his post twice.  To him, and me, this is war, no doubt.  And while yes you have the extremists there that want the US out, there are many more "every day people" who want them there and to stay because they know what will happen once the US pulls out.  These people are extremely grateful to my husband and the other men/women of the military that are there for taking down Saddam Hussein and allowing them to live their lives more freely.  <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="What is your media source for the 50/50 figure?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-What-is-your-media-source-for-the-50-50-figure--1555.html">What is your media source for the 50/50 figure?</a><br /> <P>I can cite three sources right away that state that statistically this move is supported more than not by the Jews as well as major U.S. Jewish organizations.  </P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Trying to figure this out. Religious dems....sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Trying-to-figure-this-out-Religious-dems-sm-27362.html">Trying to figure this out. Religious dems....sm</a><br /> give more than religious repubs, and nonreligious dems give less than nonreligious repubs. Do I have this right? It seems to me the religious dems give the most, yes?<br /> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="From one post you figure someone is a neocon..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-From-one-post-you-figure-someone-is-a-neocon--27485.html">From one post you figure someone is a neocon...</a><br /> geez. Post a clip, so people can see the whole context of what was said. Then let them decide. After all the ripping of Sarah Palin, you seize on this? Walls shattering in your glass house there, friend. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="This test actually did help me to figure some things out..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-This-test-actually-did-help-me-to-figure-some-things-out--29946.html">This test actually did help me to figure some things out...</a><br /> <P>http://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html</P><br /> <P>I think there are other tests because this seems to be sponsored by the <a class=word href=http://www.mtstars.com/medical_transcription/VA/>VA</a> I think, but it is still great to determine issues.  I scored only 22 percent with McCain, which I kind of figured anyway, but it helps me when so many people like to cloud the issues and confuse people, especially women.  </P><br /> <P>I used to see that in the union when I was just a medical record clerk (which was a union job) and then went to transcription (nonunion job) - when the administration was trying to break the union they would always stir the women up with issues that were sort of minor, or confusing, and sit back and watch everyone fighting about such petty things, and meanwhile emotions would get so high people did not even know the issues anymore.  </P><br /> <P>It was weird to watch, but they do the same thing where my partner works while they try continually to break the union - they use the women to do it - sad but true, and it almost works every time.  </P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Right. We're just too stupid to figure out what" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Right-We-39re-just-too-stupid-to-figure-out-what-35733.html">Right. We're just too stupid to figure out what</a><br /> to our economy, mortgages, home values, 401Ks, lending institutions, banks, stock market, wages, disappearing jobs, retail prices, consumer confidence, blah, blah, blah. We all need your divine guidance on that one. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="More double standards ...go figure (sm)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-More-double-standards-go-figure-sm--42650.html">More double standards ...go figure (sm)</a><br /> <P>*when has government ever solved a problem.* </P><br /> <P>*They actually believe that is their government's job, to make all their laws and tell them how to live.*</P><br /> <P>How about remembering that you said this when it comes to abortion and same <a class=word href=http://www.mtstars.com/medical_transcription/sex/>sex</a> marriage.</P><br /> <P> </P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="didn't take an education to figure out that one" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-didn-39t-take-an-education-to-figure-out-that-one-55727.html">didn't take an education to figure out that one</a><br /> x <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="You're so "bright", you figure it out...." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-You-39re-so-34bright-34-you-figure-it-out--57689.html">You're so "bright", you figure it out....</a><br /> ## <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="It's a figure of speech..., not spin. I was always referring only to." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Its-a-figure-of-speech-not-spin-I-was-always-referring-only-to--468.html">It's a figure of speech..., not spin. I was always referring only to.</a><br /> <P>x</P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="I figure I have been on the Public Enemy List..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-I-figure-I-have-been-on-the-Public-Enemy-List--5362.html">I figure I have been on the Public Enemy List...</a><br />  for years. I started becoming very involved during the Viet Nam War, the civil rights movement, the ERA, all those things of the 70s. I have been arrested 3 times (and proud of it) for unlawful assembly, marching without a parade permit (someone was really fine combing there),  and sitting in at a government building. These were all en masse arrests but I am sure I have an FBI file. I also was active in AIM back in the day, American Indian Movement and now am involved with Free Leonard Peltier, so I know I am wired, tapped, followed, whatever it is they do to dissidents like me. I also was at a Friends Community House meeting here in Florida where protestors of the present debacle gather. One of these meetings was tapped; made national news.  I will go to Harry's site and sign anything they ask me to. I sign petitions all the time from MoveOn, Not In Our Name, Women in Black, Amnesty International...so I really don't care about that part. I used to think I would just wait until it is finally over, the Bush administration that is, but now I am beginning to think this world may not make it until November 2008.  A melt-down is coming, take your pick, global warming or nuclear warfare,  I tend to think the nuclear will be first. If we nuke Iran, the rest of all hell will break loose and America wil be responsible for too numerous to count deaths worldwide. If anyone thinks that guy in Iran and his compatriots will take that sitting down, they are as dumb as dirt.  We knew from the beginning that Iraq would turn out just exactly as it has, and Iran will do the same, only bigger and badder.  The times, they are a-changin'. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Ron Paul.....I'll let you figure out the rest" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Ron-Paul-I-39ll-let-you-figure-out-the-rest-28660.html">Ron Paul.....I'll let you figure out the rest</a><br /> xx <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="The polls poll mostly democrats...go figure..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-The-polls-poll-mostly-democrats-go-figure--35722.html">The polls poll mostly democrats...go figure...</a><br /> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="You missed the point - go figure (see message)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-You-missed-the-point-go-figure-see-message--37194.html">You missed the point - go figure (see message)</a><br /> The point was that a President must pass a background check with the FBI - has nothing to do with applying to work for the FBI. He can't pass a basic background check (oh yeah, I feel real safe with him that close to the "launch" button).<br /> <br /> So, he can't pass a background check and he is not American born and he's getting a free pass...go ahead make him president. Maybe his cabinet people will be Ahmandinejab, Mohammar Kadafi, Castro, Kim Jong iL, etc. Plus the others he'll form back up with (Ayers & Wright) - after all it will be too late by then. <hr width=100%> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><img src="https://www.mtstars.com/images/bottom-left.jpg" width="6" height="6" /></td> <td background="https://www.mtstars.com/images/bottom-center.jpg"></td> <td><img src="https://www.mtstars.com/images/bottom-right.jpg" width="6" height="6" /></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> </table> <table width="1000" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="margin-bottom:30px;"> <tr> <td width="6"><img src="https://www.mtstars.com/images/footer1.jpg" width="6" height="45" /></td> <td align="center" background="https://www.mtstars.com/images/footer2.jpg" class="footer"> © Copyright 2001-09 <strong>MTStars.com</strong> All Rights Reserved </td> <td width="7" align="right"><img src="https://www.mtstars.com/images/footer3.jpg" width="7" height="45" /></td> </tr> </table> </body> </html>