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Posted By: Palestinian activist Mc helped to fund...sm on 2008-10-29
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For the slur that was dead on arrival, go here:


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/the-khalidi-gam.html


 




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We all have those moments
No harm, no foul.  Have a good day.
Letterman's top 10 Bush moments.sm
http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/18/lettermans-top-10-moments-of-george-w-bush/
Top 10 George Bush Moments

 see link below.


If he is Atlantic senior editor, he should know....
not to print a list that is unsupported by anything other than his opinion. He gives absolutely no support at all, just says they are lies, and you take his word for it. So much for research.
Actually, Bush Senior started the
tradition of pardoning the Thanksgiving turkey in 1989.  His son has continued the tradition.
Andrew Sullivan is the Atlantic senior
editor, hardly leftwing at all.  It is a conservative magazine, and he is a conservative.  So much for your fact-finding.
Can we stop the bickering for a few moments and say a sincere prayer...

for those on our gulf coast, and for all the emergency workers down there to help?  They are more important than anything we are saying here right now!


This is long but worth the read, about Obama senior...

foreign policy advisor....


http://www.rense.com/general80/obb.htm


Yes, I am all for a paper trail...
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Try following the trail of comments you are
Your ignorance is showing. If you notice the SUBJECT line I was responding to, you would understand. Try reading EVERYTHING before you spout off. You make yourself look very foolish.
In time this "documentary" will probably go the same trail the first one did...
and lies and misinformation will be exposed. Unfortunately, he would not know honesty if it bit him.

Excuse me...but AL Gore is hardly a pioneer on global warming. But, I would not expect you to know that, because you would probably rather eat nails than read any opposing view. However...if it were Rudy Guiliani or Mitt Romney or any OTHER Republican who made that "documentary" and their science was as flawed as Gore's is, I would say so. Because I do not lock step with either side. If I see something wrong I say so, I don't care what their political affiliation is. The fact that he is a Democrat has nothing to do with it. His science is flawed.

Socialized medicine - government controlled. Socialism - government control making everyone reliant upon and tied to the government for everything. Socialism - socialized medicine. That is what socialized medicine is.

What Congress has is employer subsidized private health care. Albeit much better program than most federal employees. Probably because they get to choose and approve their plan. BOTH sides of the house, liberal Democrat. Your side voted for it just like the other side. If you want their plan, I would suggest you run for office and you will get it free too.

Socialism and all it entails is not a good thing. It has never worked, not anywhere it was tried. Cuba is socialist...and has government health care. Check with the poor folks in Cuba some time. And why, if it is so wonderful, did Castro fly a surgeon in from Spain to take care of him?

Canada has government-run health care. Know where the waiting list people come for their surgeries and emergent care? That would be the good old US. I guess if we get government run health care they will not longer have anyplace to go because we will have waiting lists of our own. The VA is government controlled and run health care, and that is not the entire country. Tell me how well THAT is working, won't you? THAT is a no-brainer for sure.

It all comes down to choices. The truly poor among us go have subsidized health care. When the Democrats quit their political posturing and put together a decent funding bill SCHIP will be insuring children again just like it has for the last 10 years. PA has been insuring ALL kids with SCHIP money for awhile now. Other states could do it too. It comes to choices.

It is time for the government to start managing our money better and all those myriad programs better. Prioritize. I do not make near about $80,000 a year, but I am insured. Sure, it means I can't have some of the things I want, but I made a choice. I need to be insured. I have a decent policy and it doesn't cost anywhere NEAR $1000 a month. There is insurance available. It might not be the creme DE LA creme, but it is better than socialized medicine will EVER be.

And always remember...when you talk about "the government" providing anything...it is coming out of your pocket and mine. "the government" has no money in and of itself. You don't think 30-40% off the top of our wages is enough? I certainly do.
Hiking the Appalachian Trail

Op-Ed Columnist
The Prurient Trap


By CHARLES M. BLOW
Published: June 26, 2009


“Hiking the Appalachian Trail.” Is that what we’re calling it these days? That’s what Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina told his staff that he was going to do when he absconded to Argentina to be with his “sweetest” Maria of the “magnificently gentle kisses.”


I had no particular interest in rubbernecking this disaster. People make mistakes. The flesh is weak, the heart disobedient and marriages hard. According to the General Social Survey, about 10 percent of married people admit that they have cheated on their spouses. And, according to a USA Today/Gallup poll taken in March last year, 54 percent of Americans say that they know someone who has been unfaithful. ’Twas ever thus.


At the end of the day, aside from the dereliction of duty and malfeasance, this, for me, would be a private matter. That is if it were not for the appalling hypocrisy of yet another social conservative saying one thing while doing another.


There are Democratic sex scandals to be sure, but Democrats didn’t build a franchise on holier-than-thou moral rectitude. The Republicans did. They used sexual morality as a weapon and now it’s shooting them in the foot.


Sanford voted to impeach Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky saga. According to The Post and Courier of Charleston, Sanford called Clinton’s behavior “reprehensible” and said, “I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally” to resign. “I come from the business side. ... If you had a chairman or president in the business world facing these allegations, he’d be gone.” Remember that Mr. Sanford?


And this kind of hypocrisy isn’t confined to the politicians. It permeates the electorate. While conservatives fight to “defend” marriage from gays, they can’t keep theirs together. According to the Census Bureau’s Statistical Abstract, states that went Republican in November accounted for eight of the 10 states with the highest divorce rates in 2006.


Conservatives touted abstinence-only education, which was a flop, when real sex education was needed, most desperately in red states. According to 2006 data from the Guttmacher Institute, those red states accounted for eight of the 10 states with the highest teenage birthrates.


And, a study titled “Red Light States: Who Buys Online Adult Entertainment?” that was conducted by Benjamin Edelman, an assistant professor of business at Harvard Business School and published earlier this year in the Journal of Economic Perspectives found that subscriptions to online pornography sites were “more prevalent in states where surveys indicate conservative positions on religion, gender roles, and sexuality” and in states where “more people agree that ‘I have old-fashioned values about family and marriage.’ ”


They could avoid this hypocrisy by focusing more on what happens in their own bedrooms and avoiding the trap of judging what goes on in everyone else’s.


He left the campaign trail to go to washington...
palin did not go anywhere. As you said, too late to pull ads. He did not put out any new ads. The talking heads were out there to answer questions put to them by the media. What else was he supposed to do? Have the media start saying he was hiding from the media? Realllyyyy.
These are not allegations....the paper trail, media
talks about these things. You have not investigated a darn thing. You just sit there and refuse to see anything you don't want to see.


I think it was yesterday they pulled Biden off the trail for a day...
or part of it anyway. At least that is what CNBC reported.
So you say...I have not seen any ties from
McCain and Palin to any skinheads. Come on. That is ridiculous. Skinheads do not need any fuel.
Obama's Ties

Obama Ties to Farrakhan Revealed
A former top deputy to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan
tells Newsmax that Barack Obama’s ties to the black nationalist
movement in Chicago run deep, Kenneth Timmerman reports.
Read the Full Story — Go to Newsmax.com.


To quote the old 70s band, "Bad Company..."  And this is just one of many!


Impressive!.


I think he has some rather nice ties
He always looks great!
They have proven ties to Al Queda. nm
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Why did the Kennedy's have ties to organized crime?

Why was the Texas Democratic party of Lyndon Johnson horribly corrupt?


Why was Lyndon Johnson's election to the senate in 1948 won by massive voter fraud?


Why did Lyndon Johnson insert language into the IRS code in 1954 that prohibited non-profits, including churches, from endorsing or opposing candidates for political office. In effect, this thoroughly corrupt man used the power of the IRS to silence his opposition. Unfortunately, it worked. Why?  His disservice to religious freedom has yet to be undone.  Why?


How did Kennedy defeat Nixon in Illinois? 


Just rhetorical questions.


 


Biden also has ties to Tony Rezko...

http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/joe-biden-has-ties-to-tony-rezko/


Not as scary as a career politician with ties...
to all kinds of questionable characters, who has zero executive experience, showed up to vote present the majority of the time therefore not having to make a decision...can't vote present in the oval office. She has more experience than he does...fact is fact. And she is not running for pres...HE is. He is in the chair day one. SCARY indeed.
O's alleged ties will cost money plus a lot more...nm
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Uhhh.. Obama IS a socialist and has ties to a
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Yeah, I think my MENSA ties just might make me "minimally"...sm
intelligent too....lol....
On terrorist ties, since topic is popular for the moment
McCain link to private group in Iran-Contra case.

http://yorkdispatch.inyork.com/yd/sections/politics/ci_10655363
I've always wondered the true family ties here
;?
Dr. King transcended partisan ties in message and in deeds.
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need more attacks
More liberals need to start attacking back at the neocons.  For too long we have remained quiet while the republicans have been in full attack mode, especially during last year's election, smearing a true Vietnam hero, Kerry, whereas Bush never even finished his National Guard duty and Cheney and Rumsfield never went into the military but they find it is quite alright to send our sons and daughters to war for nothing.  We need more liberals to start screaming out about the terrible people in the WH. 
No Attacks?
Anthrax.
No need for attacks
he got what he wanted which was the Iraq War and taking out Sudam.  Show me bin Laden and maybe I'll be willing to give Bush some credit.  Something mighty strange that we with the mightiest miliary in the world can't get him.  But I guess Cheney would say, "SO??????"  What a couple of crooks!
How many terrorists attacks have we had since 911
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Thx - the attacks are really getting out of hand
Reminds me of that line in the movie where the guy says "I'm mad as he!! and I'm not going to take it anymore". Really though, I've read back through all the posts and not one post about something positive about Obama's plans. Just attacks to the other side and other posters. I feel if I'm going to get this I might as well just turn on MSNBC, and now I get my MIL who has such hatred for Bush is coming out saying that today market failure (whatever you call it- that 300 or so point drop) she's saying that is McCain and Palin' fault. I don't even get into political arguments with her anymore. It's just mind numbing how closed their minds are. Glad you liked my post.
we don;t need personal attacks.

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personal attacks are

not allowed on this board. Stop immediately.


 


personal attacks are

not allowed on this board.  Stop attacking me personally with your imagining what I have or don't have in my work area.  Stick to the issues.


 


Why the personal attacks?

This has nothing to do with this conversation.  What this person makes and why they make that is none of our business.  The point was that she didn't live beyond her means and doesn't want a handout and that right there makes her a heck of a lot better than a lot of people. 


Let's talk about attacks....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeVBaM2lQsg

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28656#continueA

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/12/conn-paper-tired-attacking-palin-attacks-angry-town-wasilla-inst

http://fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/debunking-the-moonbat-attacks-against-palin-part-1/

There are plenty more, those are just a few.
It is called more attacks like the one we went through
Do you actually believe the govt is telling us about each and every plot they help dismantle to make the country safer. Oooh- can I be in your fantasy movie.

People may hate GW - You know our "President of the United States", but Americans (the patriotic ones that is) are grateful for the policies that have been put in place that enable them to find out when things are happening so we will not endure another 911. Sorry you don't like the fact, but that's what they are.

I for one am very grateful we have not been attacked again.

"And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died who gave that right to me. And I'll gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today. Cos there ain't no doubt I love this land. God bless the USA!"
The attacks didn't happen here

they happened in London, England and you don't see people London whining and acting like the world is coming to the end.  They got up and got on those darned buses and trains.  These terrorists made very little headway at all yesterday. 


You all don't get the point do you?   You really don't.  No matter where we are in the world you're going to find fault with it as long as it is done under conservative leadership.


I think I understood every word you said loud and clear. 


and the personal attacks continue

Occurs to me there's no basis in any of your attacks.
Name one thing I made up and we'll see what the truth is. Go ahead, poser - explain what you mean.
Foiled Terror Attacks...sm
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/britain-thwarts-plot-to-bomb-us-bound/20060810015209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
Fox Attacks Barack Obama..sm
(see link)
We were told by moderator -no more attacks on
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And now we revert to personal attacks
on posters when you can't them to agree with you.  What a waste.
Stop the personal attacks. SM

Stop with personal attacks, the vile name-calling, grammar policing and foul language.


Debate the issues.  Respect opinions. 


I'm not moderating for niceness but there is some troll behavior going on and it has to go. 


Moderator


 


Of course it's the fault of the terrorists for carrying out attacks.

And it's the fault of this president for obsessing about Saddam Hussein (since he's been doing since the early 1990s) and not doing enough to protect his own people from future attacks.


The terrorists have all the power here.  They're holding all the cards.  They once again managed to scare a large part of the world.  They also know something that American soldiers DON'T know.  The know what the outcome of their plan is going to be.  They use the element of surprise, and when they wake up in the morning, they don't wonder if they're still going to be alive the next day.  They already KNOW they won't be because they've planned it that way.  They control their own fate, as well as the fate of everyone who gets in their way.


Our soldiers have to deal with that every single day.  A car bomb here.  A suicide bomber there.  Every single day is 9/11 for them.  It sounds real nice to pretend to respect and honor them when participating in a photo op on an aircraft carrier.  Why doesn't he care enough about their lives to provide adequate body armor and Humvees for them?  He has no problem giving big tax breaks to his rich base (and YES, they are his REAL base, not the Christian right; just wait till he betrays you all with his moderate Supreme Court nominees). He has no problem giving free healthcare to all Iraqis. Forget about the American people for a minute. Why can't he care about our troops -- our CHILDREN -- enough to supply them with adequate equipment?  Of course, he personally would not know what constitutes adequate equipment because HE WAS TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO EVER SERVE IN COMBAT.


As far as giving this President too much credit, you obviously didn't comprehend one word of my post.


HELLO!


can we just debate and stop with the personal attacks?
I know, Democrat, I know, and if I come across as harsh sometimes, that is just me..however, the post below that I condone terrorism really cut me..I have never condoned terrorism..to protest, of course, that is part of America, long live protests, but to say I condone terrorism..OMG..I have tried to debate logically, of course, not what conservatives believe but that is what debating is all about..two different ideas..I have not attacked personally  yet these neocons continue to post on the liberal board and attack the liberals for what they have posted and they have attacked me non stop..I thought a few weeks ago we made a deal that we would post respectfully  but the minute I started posting once again, there has been nothing but attacks, not logical insightful debate..If a neocon does not agree with me that Chavez is a good man or that I agree with protesting in Argentina (not breaking the law, just protesting), well then lets debate it..dont attack me and call me a terrorist..which I take very seriously and it is an affront to me, it is like cursing at me..Oh geez..I do have to say, Democrat, you have always posted above and beyond board..I have always enjoyed reading your posts..
Reminder: Watch the personal attacks. sm

Debate opinions, argue conflicting viewpoints.  Steer clear of personal attacks.


Thanks,


Moderator


 


It may be hard to credit Bush with no attacks when there is...sm
nothing tangible to show for it, right?


But then, that's the whole point.


No attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11.


There's the proof.


I'll be a believer and give President Bush the credit for this one.