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T How Lame Are You/What a Joke RE: Racism

Posted By: So much ignorance, such little time...sm on 2008-10-23
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Where to start? I simply presented a logical argument predicated on definitions the original poster was obviously unfamiliar with. So far, there is nothing in this current post that even begins to address the challenge to show what part of that "dense" post was not prejudiced, bigoted and racist, seeing as how there is no proof presented here to back up these tiresome wild-eyed accusations.
I was 15 years old when the March on Washington occurred. My mom was a political junkie, a trait that I began exhibiting at around age 12, since I admired her so much...the same way that Obama obvious admired his own mother. So I began paying attention to the civil rights movement when they desegregated my school when I was around 11. You see, down South, they were a bit slow to comply with Brown vs the Board of Educaton..and in my state, they fought tooth and nail all the way up into the early 70s before complying with the order.
I also paid attention to all things racial, because I came from what would be considered an elite, privileged background and was raised by 2 black women (maid and nanny) and a black man (gardener) who were employed in my Highland Park, Dallas Texas household (BUSH country). Back then, it was not considered "fashionable" for the wealthy to do "hands-on parenting." So, I know a thing or two about racism, bigotry and prejudice first hand. I never understood why those 3 kind, wise souls (who I loved more than anyone else in the world and every bit as I loved my own parents) were treated so horribly every time we were out in public. Consequently, I took an avid interest in the civil rights movement at the tender age of 12, began reading everything I could get my hands on regarding the subject. At age 16, I started becoming active in those movements.
Now, these facts are for you. Obama was born in 1961. The march on Washington occurred in August of 1963. The Selma to Montgomery march occurred in 1965. Those marches were not exactly spontaneous events, but rather were a culmination of years of work and organization, and Obama's "blabby" in Selma abouthis parents is perfectly chronologically consistent, unlike your LAME attempt to educate me.
Beyond that, I refuse to address this racial diatribe. I learned at an early age to DESPISE racists and have very little to nothing to do with them. I will, however, confront racism whenever I see it, without fail. Over these last 5 decades, I have developed a keen sense that enabled me to sniff out the stench of racism 1000 miles away. You, dear, are a consummate prejudiced, bigoted racist and as such, have absolutely no credibility no matter how vehemently you doest protest.
One more thing. Prejudice, bigotry and racism is an anachronism that belongs buried far back in that shameful chapter of our history and is definitely a huge part of what kind of change voters are seeking in this election...the goal being to march forward, not backwards. I for one will be on that march forward until the day I take my last ragged breath.




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you are the lame one
No, my dear, you and all of your pro-war, pro-Bush cohorts are lame and have no conscience.  If you did, you would be wanting to get our brave military out of harms way and out of the hell hole Bush created call Iraq.  You and your neocon buddies are the lame ones and history will show you were wrong so deadly wrong..Go ahead, keep defending and backing up that jerk in the WH..You are becoming a sad laughing stock of this country and the world.  Remember only approximately 38% back his so wrong, immoral, uncivilized, illegal, hateful war..For pete sake, his approval rating is lower than Nixon's was when he was dealing with Watergate..Havent your neocons gotten the picture yet?  Your boy is hated around the world and more and more Americans are seeing him for what he is..a hateful, spiteful, vindictive, grudge holding, never admitting he was wrong, never saying he is sorry, low IQ warmonger chickenhawk.
That was lame. No, seriously, it was lame. SM

LAME-O
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so lame

Lame. nm
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How lame you are
If you would spend half as much time educating yourself as you did quoting definitions you might actually learn something. Talking about devoted to opinions, I believe you would be speaking about yourself. All the O supporters on him think ONLY their opinions and conclusions matter. They have NO facts to back up anything they say, only listening to their little TV set and repeating what they hear.

Why do you confuse prejudice with facts? If this were a white man running, you couldn't care less. But believe it or not, I don't really care. This man has spent so much time with terorrists in this country, continued his relationship with them AFTER and BEFORE he knew of their associations, and still tries to defend them.

He began racial baiting from the onset of his campaign, going down to Selma and running his mouth and making a fool out of himself. Blabby on and on about the march is the reason his mom and dad got togeher and had little Obama, Jr. I guess he thought everyone in Selma are dumb folks that don't now his age or when the march actually took place!!
He wasn't even born when the march took place. He was born 4 years later. He is a race baiter and has been from the get go. He has made sure he hits little towns like Selma, thinking all blacks will love him. I got news for you. Many blacks laughed at him when he said that and were not happy that he was using that trying to play into their good graces. They were offended that he thought they were so ignorant they would fall for that one.
Maybe you have insufficient knowledge, which is obvious and why you seem to feel you need to bring definitions into this, but friends in my neighborhood, who are black, were there and said they felt he was pandering to them as if they had no sense at all, as if he needed to tell them who to vote for 'cause they might make the wrong decision if left on their own.

Maybe you don't care the people he associated with are terrorists with no remorse and preachers who spew hatred, bigotry, racism, but I do. Maybe you should be more concerned with his bigotry and racism, if you dare!

Just because I have facts to back up this and you can't refute it, don't call me all the little names you sit and think up.

Anyone with half a brain knows ACORN is racist. Why do you think they encourage the people they sign up to vote for Obama and not to mention all the corruption they have already been in trouble for and indicated to boot.

Believe what you want and maybe he'll lead you to the promised land. I care more about this country than what you think with all you yammering.



Oh please - this is so lame
Bush is not the decider. Bush is an id!ot. I wasn't saying in my previous post that he isn't. Bush is bought and paid for by the people above him (the same ones that bought and paid for Clinton and the same ones who have bought and paid for Obama). All that the President does is get out and give speeches (the ones he is told to). He does not write his own speaches and he does not make any decisions (which is good because he's a complete whacko). But the hatred towards him is so evident.

Why do you keep saying the buck stops at Bush's desk, it does not. He does not supply our troops with clean/dirty water. He doesn't even know where they get it from and he doesn't care.

The commander in chief is only a talking head. They make no real decisions (except those they are told to).

Once again, it would serve those well to stop bashing Bush for every single problems going on on this planet and go to where the true source is. Bush/Cheney have no input.

The hatred has gotten way out of hand and you remind me of the guy in the movie the Matrix that says "ignorance is bliss".
Lame
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That is like, so totally lame. nm

very lame logic; and she never said only.
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Lame logic??????
If it's lame logic that I have listened to ALL candidates and decided for myself based on what they have said without regard for the media take, the political party affiliation, gender or color, then so be it.  By whatever means you have made YOUR decision, I assume you don't consider your logic lame and I certainly will not put you down for coming to a conclusion that differs from mine.
What a lame excuse
To bash someone. She lost, get over it. She didn't use her kids as props. If so then so did obama and Biden (his grandkid that he clung to his chest every time the camera was on him). Now that's what I call a prop if I ever saw one. Sheesh!!!!

Her daughter is not in politics. Leave her alone. And you should be ashamed as even Obama himself during the campaign said if you want to discuss him or Biden, Sarah or John that's one thing, but leave the family's alone.

You really can't get over her can you? News flash - She lost, she's gone. Time to move on with your life and live in the present day and looking forward to what tomorrow (and 2012) brings. Isn't it the Obama people that keep saying to look ahead and stop living in the past?

Here's another news flash. Bristol Palin and her boyfriend and their baby are not in politics. Take the idol gossip and gloating to the gab board.
You don't even know who organized what.....such lame
BTW an architect organized the NY tea party! Ya know, an educated hard-working man who made his own way..... are you aware of how that actually works?!
That was a truly lame comeback to this thread.
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I would expect this lame comeback
Everybody is seeing Obama for what he is......nothing new!
That was lame.............Christ on a cracker!
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THE SAME, lame excuses! It was about the SIZE
and not asked for permission!
This lame scare tactic is aimed at
twisting both the free choice of English language usage and the Bible verse/word of Jesus (who you claim is your Savior) to support the claims of a snarky cult. Back in the Puritan times, that was considered blasphemy and the ONES who chose to do this could be burned at the stake.

You make me ashamed to be associated with the Christian faith.
Our sympathies to your lame brother. But shouldn't this
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Food for thought..lame duck watch (sm)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#27670344
Another lame attempt to try to not get people to read the article
Your computer got a virus, yeah right!!!!

You don't like that I'm not drooling all over the O like you are then fine, but to come out and say that articles that are not praising your god gives your computer a virus is a bunch horse hockey.

Sheesh, I would have expected a better excuse than that.

P.S. - Am anxious to hear the supreme courts ruling. They are meeting on the 5th. Although I know that all the O worshippers will try and cut it down for some insane reason. The SC's ruling will determine it. Let's just wait and see.
Same lame garbage JTBB spouted before election
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Cheney? All whatt he is saying now is just a lame attempt to justify all the
evil he did during this 8 years.

At least Bush keeps silent. I think Cheney was worse than Bush.

I bet Cheney has nightmares.
No wonder that he is so concerned with the security of this country, he is afraid somebody might 'get' him.
Lame duck watch --you're gonna love this...(sm)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#27831761
That's just lame, no cheese here, I work but I will take care of the poor unlike YOU nm
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I just don't have the energy to fight anymore, I guess. This was lame attempt!
I need to work anyway. 
Racism

Racism does not have to be whites not accepting blacks.  It can also be blacks not accepting whites.  And that does happen.  I would not approve of anybody that was trying to be a leader of this great country siding with one or the other.  They need to accept both blacks and whites.  Obviously, Obama does not think that way.  So what, if he was a teen when he wrote these books.  They should never have been published if he does not agree with what is in them. 


All this mess that is going on now did not start with George Bush.  Congress controls this country, with the president having veto power.  The Dems have been in power insofar as Congress goes for the last two years.  But it started even before then. 


Wake up, America!  You think with all our news media announcing to the world what we are getting ready to do that if Iraq had WMD they would not have known what was going on over here and what our plans were and most likely would have moved the WMD to another country. 


 


 


Now I know there isn't any racism in
.
Racism

Will racism play a major roll in this election?  You betcha.  However, you cannot say that people not voting for Obama are racist.  Some of them are, but not all of them.  How many Obama supporters are voting for him just because he is black?  Probably a heck of a lot....so you have racism on both sides here.


Yesterday someone posted and used Barrack Obama's middle name and they were called racist for doing so.  I do not see how this is racist.  It is the man's name.  How can someone be racist for calling him by his name?


I seriously am tired of people playing the race card.  Yes, racism is out there and it will play a part in this election but that most definitely goes on both sides.  You have your wacko people yelling "kill him" at a McCain rally.  The media tried to say it happened again at a Palin rally, but that is untrue.  It was only yelled during a McCain speech.  That was wrong and crazy people like that are way out of line.  They are also giving good people who are McCain supporters bad names.  Then you have Obama's supporters.  There are many good people who are on Obama's side and yet there are those crazy wack jobs on his side as well who are only voting for him because he IS black and most certainly will be screaming racism if Obama should lose.


Both sides are guilty of racism.  Some are afraid of the crazy people yelling "kill him" and others are afraid of crazy Obama supporters rioting if he should lose.  It goes both ways.  So stop blaming one side or the other.  They both have nut job racists.  I'm just tired of hearing about this.


Racism
I can't help but wish that everyone making less than $50,000 a year who opposes Obama would take a few moments to sit quietly and really question him/herself about the racial question. If those folks were honest with themselves, really honest, I bet they'd be quite surprised. I can't think of any other reason why folks making $50,000 or less (much less) a year would support the Republicans, just simple racism.
Racism
And white folks haven't been raising their children to judge people by the color of their skin since, well, way back before Jim Crow--and DON'T get me started on Jim Crow. All thru my working life (40-plus years) I've been seeing sneaky racism in the legal and medical fields thru a white woman's eyes and, frankly, I'm thoroughly disgusted with those of us on the paler side of the makeup counter.
Calling people honey and dear just weakens your lame repub cause SOUR GRAPES
too bad you can't be a real American and be proud of Obama!

There is no racism in America, no way!

Al Sharpton doesn't have to look far for fuel...see the following story on racism in America.

On June 28 2007 a young black defendant Mychal Bell was found guilty of aggravated assault against a young white man by an all white jury despite conflicting testimony from witnesses.

His defense lawyer was incompetent at the very least and didn't even call the only adult to witness what happened to the stand. This man's testimony could have concievably blown the prosecuters case out of the water.

Originally the prosecuter tryed to charge Mychal and others with attempted murder for being involved in what was basically a fight and only backed off because of a worlwide public out cry. Learn more about the case from documents sent to me by Alan Bean, the founder of Friends of Justice a group dedicated to making sure all people are given a fair trial. You can read the documents by clicking the links below:


If you want a definition of racism...
read the creed for Obama's church...and read some of his pastor mentor's sermons...and some of the speeches and quotes of their friend Louis Farrakhan. That, my friend, is the very definition of racism. When you read the creed of the church, substitute the word "white" everywhere the word "black" is used and tell me it is not racist. We do NOT need a racist in the White House.
Racism is on both sides......not just one
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Racism....that is a bit of a stretch....
because vanilla is white? LOL. The point was that if you are preaching change, and you pick the guy who has been a senator for 30-some years and may not LIVE in DC but is certainly part of the DC establishment...that is not change, it is picking "vanilla" meaning generic, and Joe Biden is definitely a generic DC liberal. Definitely not a change from DC politics...which is exactly opposite from what Obama has been saying he wanted to do..get away from politics as usual in DC.
There is no racism in my tone......
I am just sick of nuts like him standing up there and making absolutely insane remarks, such as the "messiah" thing. And what is even worse, he has weak followers if they don't see this man for what he is. HE is a RACIST man. I have no problem calling him out on that one. He is racist, his comments are racist, and he loves to divide the races. If you don't like it, too bad. The facts aren't prety are they?


Nice racism, lis!
You should be ashamed of yourself!
I believe YOU were concerned about racism...
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Of course racism is alive and well...sm
One explanation, and I know many people who did this....people wanted to be able to say that they voted in the first black man into the white house. And that is all well and good, but they did it only to be able to say they voted him in. Period.

Obama is long on style, short on substance....and extremely short on experience.

We've elected someone who's about to get on the job training.




I have not seen any racism here. You are making
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You seem to be an expert on racism.....
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It goes MANY ways. For example, I see racism
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Ah, yes. Racism. Now it's all because of color.
People were very lavish with their criticism of Bush as a 'cowboy' etc.  He walked with a 'swagger'.  He talked funny (said nucular).  I guess these criticisms showed covert 'texism' ?  
It does not matter how racism is born...
racism is racism. All whites did not enter into the slavery trade nor discrimination nor condone it, and if it had not been for some fed-up white Republicans like Abe Lincoln slavery would not have been abolished as quickly as it was. And if it had not been for some fed-up white Republicans shoving through the Right to Vote act in the 60's, oppression would certainly be worse still today. So I would be very careful about saying all whites oppressed anyone. And that is what racism is...condemning an entire "race" for perceived injustices or perceived inferiority. To the Nation of Islam, apparently to Obama's church, to Black panthers...there is no good white person. Exactly the way the old south was in reverse. Defend it if you like...it is still virulent racism and should not be condoned for ANY reason.

So, my friend, when you talk about quotas in jobs, quotas in scholarships, being put ahead not because of hard work or actually qualifying for something like a job or a scholarship, please don't whine about how blacks or minorities are oppressed. In today's culture it should strictly be on merit, not on the color of your skin, be that white, black, yellow, red or chartreuse.

And, frankly, your last sentence sounds pretty racist itself.
Really? I would hate to see your criteria for racism

See below:


 


As a young broadcaster in the 1970s, Limbaugh once told a black caller: "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back." A decade ago, after becoming nationally syndicated, he mused on the air: "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

In 1992, on his now-defunct TV show, Limbaugh expressed his ire when Spike Lee urged that black schoolchildren get off from school to see his film Malcolm X: "Spike, if you're going to do that, let's complete the education experience. You should tell them that they should loot the theater, and then blow it up on their way out."

In a similar vein, here is Limbaugh's mocking take on the NAACP, a group with a ninety-year commitment to nonviolence: "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."

When Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL) was in the U.S. Senate, the first black woman ever elected to that body, Limbaugh would play the "Movin' On Up" theme song from TV's "Jeffersons" when he mentioned her. Limbaugh sometimes still uses mock dialect -- substituting "ax" for "ask"-- when discussing black leaders.

Such quotes and antics -- many compiled by Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) for our 1995 book -- offer a whiff of Limbaugh's racial sensibility. So does his claim that racism in America "is fueled primarily by the rantings and ravings" of people like Jesse Jackson. Or his ugly reference two years ago to the father of Madonna's first child, a Latino, as "a gang-member type guy" -- an individual with no gang background.


because these statements do demonstrate racism
and I people should be aware they were made. As I said, but you obviously didn't take the time to think about, I am against ANY racism.
YOur ignorance and racism is showing
OBAMAJAD? Could your side please give the "he's a Muslim" chant a rest?

Or do you enjoy looking stupid?
Nothing you have said here can change the racism reflected
Two words...gag me.
Racism works both ways
You say your white relative may not vote for a black man but where I live racism is alive and well coming from the black community as well. It is taught to their children, which is very sad, and they bring it into the schools as well.


If you are bothered by the racism that this election

then what about mysogyny and sexism? 


There are some Obama supporters out there sporting some Palin-bashing shirts. 


If you dont' like Obama, you are probably a racist, right?  


Oh, but there is no hate thrown at Sarah Palin?  Take a look at the link below and see for yourself.


Now, I ask you, are all of you Sarah-haters mysogynists and sexist? 


Generalizations will get you nowhere.  Yes, I am sure people won't vote for Obama because he is black, and many blacks will vote for him JUST because he is black, REGARDLESS of his policies.  I think the huge majority of people that aren't voting for him are not in agreement with his policies or don't like his character.  THAT is NOT being racist.  THAT is seeing through the rhetoric and coolness for what he truly stands for and not taking his bait.  No thanks.  I'm voting McCain. 


See the link.  (Warning, adults only)