Thank you Amanda..besides, I think that if most parents could send their
Posted By: woofer on 2009-01-07
In Reply to: If those were my children, I would send them to private school too - - Amanda
child to private schools..and he and his wife are PAYING for it, so what is the problem??
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I didn't send you anywhere. Can't send you anywhere that...
doesn't exist can I? This is all academic isn't it? And even if it did exist, I don't have the power to send you anywhere. That being said, I have a somewhat different opinion of the bad place with fire and stuff than some....but that is another story....lol.
thank you, Amanda. That is some
transcript if anyone bothered to read it. Must have been ASR!
for Amanda: Exactly, here you go.....nm
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Thanks Amanda....(sm)
I actually believe troops in the field get even less info. If you look at it logically, how many satellite links do you think the US wants in enemy territory? If they did have internet it would almost have to be via satellite as most infrastructure in the region is now wiped out, and a satellite link can be traced, allowing the enemy to pinpoint positions. Hopefully our military is smarter than that.
Also, I have watched several documentaries/commentaries/videos of people involved in the torture of Iraqi and Afghan prisoners. In every case that I've heard of the people dishing out the torture (our guys) were following orders. When this came out it was all over every news station and the internet, and yet in not one interview did any of these people say anything about seeing any controversy or publicity about it in any form. They talked about how they personally had problems with it and what they were told to do, but that seems to be the extent of information they drew on. What's remarkable about this is that this was not exclusive to Afghanistan or Iraq. There was the same thing happening at Gitmo, supposedly a secure location.
Exactly, Amanda!
Obama has done nothing that needs to be defended. I think it's the old "Let's turn the attention away from the inept Republican president by slamming the new administration." End of story.
Bravo, Amanda....
Your foresight will pay big dividends down the road. Hopefully you will have time to nurture a second language in the conversational arena as well. This ability can give you much insight into the culture that lays beyond and is brought back into your business dealings. Translation is a job skill in a of itself with which you can access a wider variety of better-paying jobs. Computer translation programs can never replace the one-on-one, face-to-face exchanges that come with direct conversation.
My sister took 4 semesters of college level Spanish and ended up with a scholarship to study in Argetina in the 1970s, where she met her first husband. One good thing can often to lead to others. She divorced years later and remarried to an Iranian. Her ability to adapt through a second and third language has enabled her to thrive in a severely depressed economy. She is living in Tehran, Iran now where she and her husband run a successful flower business, an import export business and an English and Spanish tutoring and translation service. They do substitute teaching in their "spare time!".
This second marriage also blessed her with the birth of a new son at age 45. He is 12 now and is trilingual, fluent and literate in English, Farsi and Spanish. The kid is comfortable and right at home in the US and abroad.
Keep your eye on the prize. You never know what is waiting for you just around the next corner.
Exactly! Amanda does her research.nm
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sorry, amanda, this should be under your post, not ms...nm
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Amanda....it says that the credit will...
eliminate federal taxes for 10 million low income families. Someone has to make up for that lost revenue. Or are you saying they are really not paying taxes anyway so when he says he is giving them a tax credit he is not, he is lying about it? So which part is lying and which part is true? They were paying taxes and now they are not going to be because of the credit, or they were never paying taxes anyway so it is a credit name only. Please advise.
NIce try, Amanda.
Dear Amanda:
Your attempts should be applauded, but just take a look at the thread above yours here (about renaming the White House) and really, truly SEE your audience.
Wearing the cloak of "Christianity," they talk about only there being only one perfect man, and he was killed, yet they stir the pot of hatred and lies in a frenzy, leading me to believe they wouldn't mind at all if another death takes place.
They take something as benign and American as two parents getting a puppy for their children and try to turn it into something sinister.
Their lives will probably drastically improve under President Obama, but they'll be too full of hate to ever even know it.
You made a valiant attempt, but President Obama will never have a chance with these people, but that's okay. The good news is that the majority of Americans aren't like this, and they are the ones who voted for someone who may likely go down in history as one of the best Presidents ever -- if he's given the chance and allowed to live long enough to do so.
Thank you for your honesty, Amanda. sm
I appreciate it.
By the way, my niece's name is Amanda....and I think of her when I see your post! To me, she will always be about 10 years old, but she just turned 20! They grow up fast.
Oh please, Amanda - sometimes you are right on, but this time not
These are not little expenses like "groceries", and these are not expenses entertaining foreign diplomats. These are weekly parties that the taxpayer is paying for. I'm sorry but having big name entertainers and conga lines are not working parties, but of course the crats will say that. These are parties that cost a huge amount of money (that is taxpayers money). These are weekly Wednesday night parties with steak, champaign, etc. You really think they eat things like us common folk eat (hamburgers and hot dogs), please, they wouldn't stoop so low.
What I'm complaining about is the country is in a "world of hurt". People are losing jobs, homes, etc, and while the O and other politicians are saying we have to cut back, they are not, and they are not spending their own money. They are spending tax payers money. They need to lead by example.
And to turn the wh into a party palace is a disgrace.
People, stop drinking the kool-aid and wake up (not you Amanda because you usually have some pretty good insight but this time you are just wrong). The rest of them who defend this I'm afraid are still sleeping.
Thank God there are parents who do not think as you.
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Send some my way I'm going to need it
Will that be coming by FedEx or UPS. Ha ha ha. Actually I think I better go stock up on my own.
Well written, I agree with you Amanda
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Thx Amanda - They won't admit (see message)
when their wrong. They keep trying to argue a mute point. I think Stardust is a racist for assuming I'm a white person. I don't know how much clearer you can point something out. It's like talking to a wall. I also don't know how I could be a racist when I voted for him in the primaries. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Well I'm not going to read anymore of Stardusts posts anymore. Not worth my time since she won't even stand up and admit when she's wrong, and she grasps at anything. Calls me a racist and says I said racist things and then tries to claim it's something I said after she posted that message. Just not worth my time.
Thanks again Amanda for your message. This board sure is infiltrated and its getting more and more sickening to her the attacks on McCain & Palin while giving Obama and Biden a free pass. They attack M/P and then say that the conservatives do all the attacking.
Man-o-man I can't wait for the election to be over.
Amanda is right - it's not all one side - (see message)
And it is all wrong. No matter what you think of anyone common sense tells you that you should not have a person who is still living depicted in this way. I don't care how much dislike you have for them. Amanda had another post with a link of a picture of Obama sitting with "death" behind him. Another truly disgusting "art" creation. Funny how they use the words "art" and "halloween decoration" to cover up an act of hate. I heard a lawyer interviewed last night and she said that you can't hang Obama as a "decoration" because it's considered a hate crime (race, slavery, etc), but there is no such thing as a hate crime against a woman. While I can understand that, I don't agree with it. Try telling that to the family of the "white" lady reporter in Arkansas beaten to death. They said every single bone in her face was broken. Now if that is not a "hate" crime I don't know what it.
An inconvenient truth, Amanda.
You go, girl!
Way to go, Amanda! Great research.n/m
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Famous last words, Amanda.....sm
Remember your own posts in the coming days, when you swore that he was not a socialist.
All of the policies he is about to institute are socialist or marxist. He may try to call them another name, but they are still socialistic programs, and marxist.
It's all laid out, in front of your eyes....but you can't see it
Amanda has really summed up most of our lives and
it is scary. I wonder how many transcription companies will close their doors within the next year. The top 3 transcription companies may be all that are left before long.
Well, I'll agree with you on that, Amanda.
This bail-out stuff should have stopped before it started. After the Wall Street bail-out has the news gotten any better? No. It is worse on a daily basis. It will be the same if the auto industry is bailed out. I say no bail outs. For those of us who make bad decisions we're left to suffer the consequences. Let the businesses do the same. First Wall Street, then auto industry, who's next? It won't be Joe the (honest) Plumber, that's for sure.
Good point, Amanda. sm
If you had really listened closely to Prez Obama's speech earlier, he clearly stated the government is willing to give them a boost up in order to stabilize them and give them a chance to revamp their manufacturing in order to be competative with the global car manufacturers. I am so glad to hear that one of the plants that will be shut down is Hummer. We don't need gas guzzlers like that on the road. They serve no purpose other than to satisfy the egomaniacs who need a huge obnoxious vehicle in order for them to feel superior. We are not all going to be driving Smart cars. For pete's sake, be realistic. There is a solid purpose to keep manufacturing trucks and SUVs, and they can be made more energy efficient. We desperately need a new mindset in this country, one that insists on less consumption, more cost effectiveness with an eye to achieving freedom from foreign oil. In other words, we need to adapt a new attitude of learning to live without all the disgusting excess that goes on in this country. People need to wake up and reprioritize what is really important, which is not more, more, more. We can be the leaders in the world and set an example to everyone else that our values are more important than the trappings that we have prostituted ourselves for decades. This is not a bad thing!
"'The truth is that the president is just doing with GM what we, the people elected him to do: manage America’s decline and do it gently, painlessly, without seeming to abandon the old tropes of American Greatness."
Amanda, these people just got to have something to whine about sm
They have very short memories I reckon. They forgot that Bush spent one-third of his presidency at his "ranch". I guess it was free for him to do all that flying back and forth. And then there was the 40 million dollars he spent on his SECOND inagural party, just two months after the devastating tsunami that hit Indonesia. Imagine how far even HALF of that 40 million dollars could have gone toward that effort!!
Yep, a desparate bunch grasping at some pretty flimsy straws!!
Sorry Amanda you are wrong - see message
Like the message below this said, they are starting to socialize our health system. They want the government to control it. I've watched many economist speak about this, along with a lot of politicians (not ones that are in DC, but individual ones from individual states) and they are saying the same thing. We cannot socialize our health care.
You will not have a choice as to what doctor you can go to, what treatment you'll be able to get or medication. The government will be in charge of that. They will decide what you will and will not get.
I think you probably know by now that Obama says one thing and does another. He will get up and give a good speech, but as soon as he is done speaking he does the opposite of what he says he will or will not do. Kind of like when he was in another country and said our dollar was strong as the dollar was tanking and other country leaders were snickering and laughing at him. Funny though cos Obama could say the sky is green and people would believe him and defend him for it.
We listened to someone talk (forget who it was right now), but they knew someone in Canada who needed a procedure and it was going to be a four month waiting period. They came to the US and had the procedure done the same or next day. I said to DH if they have their way and socialize our health care system I think Obama and other politicians who push this through should be told that they (or a family member of theirs) will have to wait 4 months for an MRI or other procedure to be done. See how they like it.
It's just a very very sad time for us all to see our country being deteriorated. I am understanding how Cuba and other socialist countries got that way. Sort of little by little then before you know it it's too late. It's the same way our landlords when we lived in Germany told us what happened to them leading up to WWII. It's just awful to see our country going the same way. They were promised everything and then look what happened to them. And history is repeating itself here in America.
Just very sad.
Me too! My parents both Democrats....
the Zell Miller kind. THAT Democratic party is no more.
It wasn't the parents
It was the caretakers in the orphanages that physically and sexually abused these children and subsequently murdered them (approximately 1910-1940). The parents gave them up because they could not care for them. There are drugs that cause miscarriage. That is abortion. There are natural causes for miscarriage (dilating cervix, the fetus is still alive). That is abortion. Overturning Roe vs. Wade will not improve the quality of life for anyone. There will just be more backroom abortions and more unwanted children eking out a miserable existence. Like I said, I will leave the judgment part up to God. And abortion isn't the only thing they want abolished - birth control is on the list, too. I guess married couples should just abstain from sex after they have had their required amount of religiously acceptable children. Some countries impose abortion on their women, I guess we are lucky not to have been born in one of those countries, otherwise, we'd burn in heck!
I asked my parents about this
and they both laughed at me. My father comes from a very politically involved family. My dad tells me things were very charged when Kennedy ran and especially when Nixon ran. He has especially bad memories of the Nixon campaign.
that is, if the child does not want the parents to know at all
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I don't believe that the language of your parents. sm
has anything to do with being qualified to be the POTUS. We are about to have a POTUS whose father was not a US citizen.
But till the age of 18, it is the PARENTS
who decide what is, according to their opinion, better or worse.
And this applies also to abortion, if you like it or not.
Because there are responsible parents out there who think that producing a child entails also RAISING this child and not giving it up for adoption.
And if they cannot maintain this child, things happen!- they choose pro-choice.
Well, many parents would love to put
their children in Christian schools but you screaming God-hating liberals hate school vouchers. :) I suppose you don't mind sending your kids to public education. You want them to be just like commie, perverted mom.
Elderly parents
I think what we are going to see more of in the future is multiple generations living under one roof. It's going to be the only way anyone will be able to afford to live. They've done this in other countries for years because of the high cost of living. The elderly will not be able to afford to live on their own. Our children will not be able to afford to live on their own because they won't be able to find jobs.
My parents were smart like that too.
My dad worked for GM for 30+ years and retired in his 60s only because he wasn't capable of working anymore. They paid off their house. They had one credit card that they paid off every month if they used it. Dad had cash in the bank, stashed in other places, etc. Now my dad has been gone for almost 2 years now and my mom is living in her paid off house by herself. All that hard work that my father did to make sure that she would be taken care of after he was gone and now GM is doing horrible. Not sure what will happen to my mother's healthcare through GM or the pension my father worked so hard for. It is truly a shame if his blood, sweat, and tears of 30+ years didn't amount to anything.
A lot of younger people nowadays don't know what it is to work for what you have. Everyone wants things given to them now and that is a huge reason why I have a problem with welfare. It doesn't help the people who really need a hand up. All of these government assistant programs will do nothing but make people more lazy and dependent on others to give to them. I'd rather work for what I have and tell the government to leave me the heck alone, but that is just me.
The average American has 10K in credit card debt and think that is just sad. My DH and I have one credit card and we pay it off every month. The only thing we owe on is our house and it sucks that I'm terrified about losing it because the economy is so bad when my DH and I have been nothing but responsible with our money. We just keep plugging along and hoping that DH's job isn't one of the ones on the chopping block. If we keeps his job, we will be okay. However, if he doesn't, especially with a new baby on the way, we are in deep sh!t!
The parents liked the idea of....(sm)
having a website that students could use for their class. I have no problem with that. A lot of teachers do that. AGAIN, the problem is that it was a conservative website.
Teaching our children partisan politics when they are supposed to be learning history is completely not acceptable.
I also happen to agree that "real" history for the most part is not taught in high school. You only get the real stuff when you reach college, if you're lucky enough to get a good professor. However, I doubt very seriously what you call "real history" and the facts would match up.
I'll try to send it again....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlf---13Q0g
Wow -- did she send you a copy before
releasing it to the public? Someone else on here posted that you are very good paraphrasing, Sam, and I believe they are right. The book hasn't even been released yet, but you'll go with whatever tidbit you can find.
OK, send me his address
He SHOULD have been told this before he was enlisted as cannon fodder for the war mongerers who were planning this fake war BEFORE the Supreme coup gave them the WhiteHouse.
No one doubts your nephew's good intentions for serving in the military. IN FACT, WE SUPPORT him so much, that we think he ought not be used as BAIT to secure more riches for the military industrial complex.
PLEASE do some research: This 'war' was manufactured and worse, 9/11 should have been and COULD have been prevented. IF THEY HAD DONE THAT, HOWEVER, they would not have been able to inflame a nation to war with a country that never attacked us.
SHAME on Americans who believe WITHOUT verifying or thinking for themselves!
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send bush to
Iraq without all his body guards and see if he is so smug and smiley when another citizen of democracy goes for his shoes. Bush says that is what democracy is all about --- yet he always has US protestors cordoned off far away from where he speaks in this democracy. The biggest sissy-boy the country has ever been run into the ground by.
What, like maybe send you our tax money?
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Send me some recipes. We could use some
supplemental income, too. 
I'd do better than that! I think I'd send the brown
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Is an old issue that needs to be resolved & answer to Amanda
I would not go by anything the Annenberg foundation puts out and FactCheck is not a reliable source.
To Amanda, there are two kinds of certificates. I have the one like you do where there is no information but name, date of birth and a raised seal, but there is another kind of certificate called the "vault" certificate that is filed by the hospital to the state. In the medical records department we type in all the pertinent info (name, weight, length, time of birth, parents names, etc). That is the one we send in for the official record. That is the one they are requesting and the one he refuses to submit. This is the one I had to apply for to verify I was who I was before I could join the Army.
Ah, Neurnberg Germany. That brings back memories. I was stationed in Katterbach/Ansback and went to Neurnberg almost every weekend. Neurnberg is also where all the military wifes went to have their babies and your daughter is American citizen because she was born to US Citizens AND American bases are considered US soil. I have another friend who had her baby in Germany and her husband was military but she chose to have her baby in a Germany Hospital and her baby is a German citizen. Until they apply for him to become a US Citizen he remains a German citizen. Seeing as Obama was born in Kenya that is not US Territory, and he cannot produce his vault certificate because he doesn't have one.
On his website (and approved by the Annenberg Foundation) is simply not the actual birth certificate. There is no raised seal on it and it is very easy to recreate this form. Anyone can get access to the forms and fill in whatever information they want to. Obama's campaign did have a form on his site before that kept being taken down and altered and posted back up on the site that could clearly be seen was a copy of his sisters certificate. It has since been taking down.
Additionally maybe Obama thought he might run for Prime Minister in Canada because he also has a Canadian birth certificate.
Life sure is strange. Meanwhile I'll sit back and watch all this come tumbling down.
Amanda - I stand corrected - thank you - see message
When I'm wrong I'll admit it and this time I'm wrong. That is in such bad taste.
If parents want to dress their kids in political figures that's one thing (though I think the kids would rather be ghosts, witches, princesses, etc) but to try and make a political statement and use the excuse that its Halloween and in good fun is just in bad taste (IMO). I find it equally offensive no matter who it is.
I think its bad taste and think everyone should take down everything. I find it just as disgusting as I found the remark Hillary said about staying in because an assassination could happen. When you talk about death of people that just gets to me.
So Amanda thank you, I do stand corrected and am humbled. There are McCain supporters who do the same as Obama supporters.
What happened to decency in America and leave the halloween costumes to kids and people going to parties.
That's why they call him Hidin Biden (sm) and to Amanda
Anytime anyone leaks out what their plans really are they hide them away.
Amanda, - If your really believe that Obama "will be happy to pay more taxes", and that he's going to do everything to help you while taxing those nasty rich white republicans, then I guess you will also believe that Richardson "mispoke" himself. The truth is coming out but why aren't the dems seeing it. They say it themselves out of their own mouths and you still won't believe it.
Amanda, you've wasted your breath. s/m
There is not a rational thought in any of these people's heads. They don't care about hope or the possibility of change for the better. The ironic thing about this is that if and when Jesus Christ were to return, these kind of people would be the ones who would crucify him all over again because of the narrow-minded prejudice that seems to feed them. More's the pity.
Amanda, sad to say, your're wasting your breath.
There is just no getting through to these narrow-minded people. They don't want to give him a chance, because their tiny brains have been filled with the BS that has been fed to them by the publicity-seeking egomaniacs that they worship (Lamebaugh, Coultergeist, Beck who I think is a closet Nazi, O'Reilly). Dittoheads -- what a great name for them -- they are incapable of having an original thought of their own. One poster on here has the nerve to say "he has had his chance". Give me a break -- that shows nothing but ignorance. The man has been in office less than 3 months!!
You cannot have a reasonable conversation with these types of people. Thank you for trying, though. You had to know you would get flamed on this one, just as I'm sure I will. C'est LA vie.
Amanda's been wife of a solder, and then mother to
It *seems* to her the veteran showed disrespect to the flag, but I doubt she can come up with a concrete alternative way for him to have removed that flag, managed it single-handed, while being able to defend himself.
I think when our embassies have been under attack, the folks who took down those flags were probably in as much of a hurry, and I doubt they did anything differently.
Good analogy, by the way, about the grandfather. First you protect the kid, then you dust him off and see whether he's hurt.
As to stomping on the Mexican flag, no, I would not have. The store owners may have flown the two flags as they did out of ignorance, not to show deliberate disrespect. They may not have bothered to familiarize themselves with the law. They may not even speak English, but have now received a valuable lesson, which I hope someone will explain to them. If they are wise, they will learn from it. If not, they will get together several hundred of their closest friends, petition Obama, march, riot, demand ''equality'' now, and be a general pain in the patootie. I would love to see the followup on this....
Valles and these parents see the light....nm
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Both of my parents were registered Democrats....
I grew up in a Democrat household. That being said...my parents would not recognize the Democratic party as it is today. And they could not be classified as liberals, based on what I hear and see from those who call themselves liberals. I should be more specific I suppose...when I say "liberals" I am referring to those who post here who have identified themselves as liberals, and those I have seen in print and in the media who identify themselves as liberals. That is my basis. Really has nothing to do with registered Democrats...I have no way of knowing if the liberals who post here and identify themselves as such are registered Democrats. Color me confused because I was lamblasted by some who identified themselves as liberals, proceeded to tell me there were no true liberals in the Democratic party (well, that is news to them then, because many of them call themselves liberals). That is when I made the comment that it was hardly to understand what a liberal really was when there are those who define themselves as liberals who are also Democrats and those who define themselves as liberals and say there are no liberals in the democratic party. Yeah...that is a little confusing. However...that being said...when you see me post something about "liberals" I am talking about those I have come into contact with...either in my personal life, on this board, or in print or media...all who have defined themselves as "liberals." Certainly not everyone in the country...have not met them and have no idea what THEIR interpretation of liberal is. I just have to go with what I have experience with. That being said...in my personal life are two stepdaughters who define themselves as liberals, and we have lively debates, believe me. However, I see the same tendencies in them that I see in some here who define themselves as liberal. Doesn't mean we do not care about each other, because we do. We love each other through it. But those who do not have a personal relationship with someone with opposing view...seem to want to demonize the other side. We are all Americans...and we should be able to love each other through it. And as a country we are not doing that...we are doing the opposite, and letting people like Ann Coulter and AL Franken divide us even further...when we should be condemning both. That is all I am saying... :-)
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