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That is absolute nonsense.

Posted By: sm on 2008-10-30
In Reply to: What is amazing to me is this garbage goes round an round...sm - Good job pubs!

Obama is the one making promises he cannot keep.  Obama is the one connected to people and organizations like Rasheed Khalidi, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, Rev Flager, Farrakhan, ACORN, Rezko.  You people are so consumed by this promise of change that you can't see what is right in front of you.....a man who is lying and telling you what you want to hear just to get elected into the White House. 


I will give Obama credit where credit is due.  Obama is an excellent speech giver with a teleprompter.  He is great when no one is there to question him.  When he can just spout out his usual rhetoric without actually answering any questions....Obama is top notch.  I think Obama's infomercial was a smart move.  He did a great job so I've heard.  It saddens me that people are going to take the word of any candidate without doing fact checking.  Obama is a liar.  He is telling us what we want to hear and is misleading us. 


If you want change, you will get it with him but it won't be the change he promised.  False hope, broken promises....that is the real Barrack Obama.




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from an absolute expert on the subj

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One hopes that no one has absolute power one day...
over whether you live or die.
I guess you have absolute proof.......sm
of all these accusations?

Laying that aside, conservatives have just as much right to voice their opinions without being referred to as "certifiable loons" as do liberals. Come back in a couple of years and let's talk about how your paycheck is looking and how hard it is to make ends meet in the Obama economy. I have a feeling there will be a lot of disillusioned folks.
Bush could seize absolute control of government
 
 




From Capitol Hill Blue

The Rant
Bush could seize absolute control of U.S. government
By DOUG THOMPSON
Publisher, Capitol Hill Blue
Jan 13, 2006, 07:42


President George W. Bush has signed executive orders giving him sole authority to impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus and ignore the Posse Comitatus Act that prohibits deployment of U.S. troops on American streets. This would give him absolute dictatorial power over the government with no checks and balances.

Bush discussed imposing martial law on American streets in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks by activating “national security initiatives” put in place by Ronald Reagan during the 1980s.

These “national security initiatives, hatched in 1982 by controversial Marine Colonel Oliver North, later one of the key players in the Iran-Contra Scandal, charged the Federal Emergency Management Agency with administering executive orders that allowed suspension of the Constitution, implementation of martial law, establishment of internment camps, and the turning the government over to the President.

John Brinkerhoff, deputy director of FEMA, developed the martial law implementation plan, following a template originally developed by former FEMA director Louis Guiffrida to battle a “national uprising of black militants.” Gifuffrida’s implementation of martial law called for jailing at least 21 million African Americans in “relocation camps.”  Brinkerhoff later admitted in an interview with the Miami Herald that President Reagan signed off on the initiatives and they remained in place, dormant, until George W. Bush took office.

Brinkerhoff moved on the Anser Institute for Homeland Security and, following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, provided the Bush White House and the Pentagon with talking points supporting revised “national security initiatives” that would could allow imposition of martial law and suspension of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, the law that is supposed to forbid use of troops for domestic law enforcement.

Brinkerhoff wrote that intentions of Posse Comitatus are “misunderstood and misapplied” and that the U.S. has in times of national emergency the “full and absolute authority” to send troops into American streets to “enforce order and maintain the peace.”

Bush used parts of the plan to send troops into the streets of New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina. In addition, FEMA hired former special forces personnel from the mercenary firm Blackwater USA to “enforce security.”

Blackwater USA, in its promotional materials, describes itself as “the most comprehensive professional military, law enforcement, security, peacekeeping, and stability operations company in the world,” adding that “we have established a global presence and provide training and operational solutions for the 21st century in support of security and peace, and freedom and democracy everywhere.”

Blackwater is also a major U.S. contractor in Iraq and has a contract with the Bush White House to provide additional security work “on an as-needed basis.”

The Department of Homeland Security established the “Northern Command for National Defense,” a wide-ranging program that includes FEMA, the Pentagon, the FBI and the National Security Agency.  Executive orders already signed by Bush allow the Northern Command to send troops into American streets, seize control of radio and television stations and networks and impose martial law “in times of national emergency.”

The authority to declare what is or is not a national emergency rests entirely with Bush who does not have to either consult or seek the approval of Congress for permission to assume absolute control over the government of the United States.

The White House press office would neither confirm nor deny existence of Bush’s executive orders or the existence of the Northern Command for National Defense.  Neither would the Department of Homeland Security.

But my sources within the White House and DHS tell me the plans are in place, ready for implementation when the command comes from the man who keeps telling the American public that he is a “war time president” who will “do anything in my power” to impose his will on the people of the United States.

And he has made sure that power will be absolute when he chooses to use it.

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That's nonsense.
The post is obviously intact and there is no indication whatsoever that ANON advocated any kind of lawlessness. Many people are questioning the wisdom of giving shoot-to-kill orders knowing full well that many of the people of NO have no choice BUT to find food and liquid any way they can as a matter of desperation rather than criminality.

I believe the soldiers and policemen on the ground there as a whole have the sense to know who's behaving like a criminal and who is not, and I do think they should have the authority to both protect themselves and stop the really bad guys.

Too bad some people DON'T have the sense it takes to know who is intending harm and who is not.
such nonsense

While I don't think this represents the views of most conservatives (I truly believe that most Americans, whether Republican or Democrat, want what is best for this country, just have different ways of approaching it), it is still disturbing that there are people out there who think this way.  You could also include people in this category who believe that the Holocaust didn't really happen, men really haven't been to the moon, Jews blew up the WTC, and other conspiracy theory/ridiculous nonsense that is hard to believe that anyone could take seriously.  They're lucky there is no intelligence test required to vote.


What nonsense. (nm)
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what nonsense

Let;s discs something relevant -- like McCain's handling of foreign affairs with an explosive temper and short fuse and its impact on national safety.


 


What's this nonsense?...nm
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Ever since all the mad cow nonsense...
I have not been a fan. I think that it should have been criminal what she (with no real evidence) did to the cattle industry.
You know, I actually think that all of that nonsense
was constructive. Look at how much more respectful we are all being to each other.
:O)
This is nonsense
My parents never investigated relatives of guys I dated. Sometimes they didn't even meet the guy I was dating, and when they did they would know where he lived, but not who his parents or siblings were.

I lived in a small town of about 5000 people. Not everyone knew everyone. We knew most but not everyone. So you live in Wasilla and know for a fact that everyone knows everyone?

Oh please on what Gov. Palin knows and doesn't know. Talk about buying into the hate-filled bashing of Gov. Palin and repeating the false statements that she didn't know this or that.

Good luck to ya.
Nonsense.
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My thoughts exactly. Nonsense. How can he?
But he says 95% of american workers, not american workers who PAY TAXES. He has never said that, his website doesn't say that. You are classified as a worker if you work a week a year. Some people draw wages so low they don't pay federal income taxes after deductions. A LOT of people, in fact, 30 to 40% of all workers. The top 4-5%, the richest folks, pay the lion's share of ALL taxes now, well over 60% of ALL taxes. And he wants to hit them harder. But I digress.

95% of workers..his words. 30-40% of american workers DO NOT pay federal income tax now. So HOW is he going to give a tax break or cut to them? Either he is lying about the 95%, or he is going to cut checks. Please, someone, anyone, of the Obama faithful, explain to me how he is going to do that.

If he means 95% of people who PAY taxes, he completely MISSES his target group!!!
Obama and his nonsense sm

i have purposely stayed out of the debate for/against Obama but after this latest blunder, I gotta speak my peace.


This guy is only interested in himself and not this country.  He is only interested in pushing his agenda and his so-called winning personality.  He has made this country a "laughing stock."  He needs to keep his rear-end in Washington and not trying to be a comic on the Leno show and wherever else he intends to "appear."  The only thing he is good at is spending money he does not have and slick talking!  It feels like we do not even have any leadership in Washington now with him in the white house.  This country is in a mess..........the biggest mess it has ever been in.  God help us all!


I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense!

This is America people.  If you don't like our National Anthem or our flag being flown.......go back to whatever country you came from.  For someone to say that the American flag is offensive......that just shocks me.   We have lost our freedom to fly our own country's flag for fear of offending others.  What has our country come to.  This is America....that is our flag.....and it was a national holiday to remember veterans and she couldn't put an American flag out.  I truly don't buy that there were other people who were offended by it either.  What a crock. 


I think I would go out and buy a small flag and put it on my desk and keep it there everyday.  Screw that!


Please don't talk nonsense about God.
...or else you have to explain a lot of other things like Hitler and the Holocaust. I hate it when people attribute the evil deeds and bad decisions of mankind to God.
youre babbling nonsense - does
not make any sense.  Move on dot arrgh.
I agee with you - what Obama says is nonsense
Finally you see him for what he is - nonsense.
birth certificate nonsense
Personally, I like the way factcheck.org handled this: They went and looked at the birth certificate. Then they went and looked at the birth announcement in the newspaper from 1961. Now, admittedly, it's possible that Obama's disciples FLEW BACK IN TIME to plant the birth announcement so that their Chosen One could ascend to power. I think we do have to consider that option carefully, because it leads us to ask--what if NEXT they GO BACK IN TIME TO CREATE AN OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT-ELECT FOR *EVERY* ELECTION EVER HELD IN THE US????

Your 2nd paragraph is complete and utter nonsense. sm
You wrote: 'Besides, a lot of atheists who try to disprove that God ever existed will usually come to the conclusion that there is too much evidence to prove that He does exist. It usually scares the you know what out of them and they become converts.'

And you know this how? I would say show me the evidence to back up this ridiculous claim, but I already know you have none. It's your opinion/religious propaganda, and it's blantantly false. You also have it backwards. You're implying people start out being athiest, then convert to religion. It's the other way around, when religious or secular people start questioning all the improbable/impossible things the bible is overflowing with, in addition to all of its inconsistenties and outright contradictions.

Forgive me if I doubt that you're an expert on athiests, and forgive me if I doubt your critical thinking skills, because religion frowns upon that - you're not supposed to question god or think for yourself, just obey his commands, or should I say, various human interpretations of his commands...

If there was indeed
'too much evidence to prove that He does exist' then everyone would believe in him. How could anyone deny it? They couldn't. But that's just it, there is no evidence to prove it, whereas there actually IS scientific evidence to the contrary, that you apparently are unaware of or haven't investigated.

Instead, you're willing to believe something based only on 'faith.' In every other area of your life where you'd want or even *demand* facts, proof, or concrete evidence before believing something so important, with religion (some) people are all too willing to blindly accept it on faith.

BTW, an athiest doesn't have to DISprove god (you can't prove a negative, anyway), you have to prove that he *does* exist, and you can't. And wouldn't you think if he really existed, he would prove it to the entire world's satisfaction anyway and put an end to the debate and all the relious wars, conflict, genocide, misery, suffering, etc? He'd rather we kill each over it? I think not. It makes no sense.

You also wrote: 'You can say all you want, but you just can't argue with a completely changed life'

Yes, I can argue it. You changed your life because *you* wanted to change it. You! Not some mystical, magical, invisible being in the sky who cares about your every thought and action. People change their lives for the better every day, without religion. IMO, if you hadn't found religion, you would've kept looking until you found something else that worked for you, and it probably would've been a lot healthier than the brainwashing, closed-minded, divisive phenomenon that is religion.

Keep up the good work? You are hilarious, such nonsense!...nm
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utter nonsense - where in the world did you come up with this line
Been watching a little too much Dr. Phil I guess.

This is utter nonsense and if so then we better keep an eye on you with everything you've been saying.
Lets put this nonsense to bed. Pres candidates born outside US
Here's the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen

Here's the text. See. Isn't this EASY?

US presidential candidates born outside the US
"The constitutional wording has left doubts about whether those born on foreign soil are on an equal footing with those whose birth occurred inside the country's borders, and whether they have the same rights."[2] Though every president and vice president to date (as of 2008) has either been a citizen at the adoption of the Constitution, or else born in a U.S. state or Washington D.C.,[3] a number of presidential candidates have been born elsewhere.[4]

Barry Goldwater, who ran as the Republican party nominee in 1964, was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory. Although Arizona was not a state, it was a fully organized and incorporated territory of the United States.[5]

George Romney, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 1968, was born in Mexico to U.S. parents. Romney’s grandfather emigrated to Mexico in 1886 with his three wives and children after Utah outlawed polygamy. Romney's parents retained their U.S. citizenship and returned to the United States in 1912. Romney was 32 years old when he arrived in Michigan.

Lowell Weicker, the former Connecticut Senator, Representative, and Governor, entered the race for the Republican party nomination of 1980 but dropped out before voting in the primaries began. He was born in Paris, France and acquired his citizenship at birth through his parents. His father was an executive for E. R. Squibb & Sons and his mother was the Indian-born daughter of a British general.[6]

John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and is the Republican nominee in 2008, was born at the Coco Solo U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Although the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States,[7] federal law states: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."[8] The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born — albeit with retroactive effect, resulting in McCain being declared a U.S. citizen.[9]

The mere fact of Constitutional ineligibility has not deterred some minor parties from nominating candidates for President who could not possibly serve in the office. For example, although some states have blocked ballot access for such candidates, the Socialist Workers Party nonetheless successfully placed its candidate, Róger Calero, on the ballot in Mississippi in 2004. [10]