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The fact that the aide stated it, NM

Posted By: IS THE ONE WHO PICKED PALIN FOR THE JOB. on 2008-11-13
In Reply to: they did not say that she did not say it - - Amanda

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Really? just stated a fact. I, for one, don't read
any bashing or gloating into the OP's message.  Just a fact.  They seemed like they knew what they were doing, getting married, going to have a baby, and in a few short months, kaput!  The love vanishes.  Seems to me, you have more vitriole about this subject than does the OP.  And, I guess your name is IMHO.  Geesh.
Former Aide to DeLay
November 21, 2005
Former Aide to DeLay Pleads Guilty in Conspiracy Case
By DAVID STOUT
and PHILIP SHENON

WASHINGTON, Nov. 21 - Michael Scanlon, former aide to a powerful congressman and onetime partner of a wealthy lobbyist, pleaded guilty today to a federal conspiracy charge as part of a deal in which he agreed to cooperate with an investigation into possible wrongdoing by some lawmakers.

Mr. Scanlon's comedown from a young and wealthy Washington power-player to disgraced felon, formalized before Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle of Federal District Court here, had been expected. But it still may have sent shivers down Capitol corridors.

Mr. Scanlon agreed to pay restitution totaling more than $19 million to the tribes and faces up to five years in prison. He was allowed to remain free on $5 million bond. After pleading guilty, the well-tanned Mr. Scanlon appeared incongruously cheerful. Asked by reporters why he was smiling, he replied, I'm always smiling.

Mr. Scanlon, 35, was accused of conspiring to defraud Indian tribes out of millions of dollars as part of a lobbying and corruption scheme that involved wining and dining of some lawmakers, treating them to lavish trips and contributing to their campaigns.

Representative Bob Ney, an Ohio Republican, who heads the House Appropriations Committee, was alluded to in the indictment (although not by name) as a main beneficiary of largess, in return for helping Mr. Abramoff and Mr. Scanlon with their clients.

Lawyers involved in the case have confirmed that Mr. Ney is the Representative #1 cited in the indictment. The congressman - who has not been charged - has asserted that he was duped by the two and is cooperating with prosecutors, a spokesman for Mr. Ney says.

Mr. Scanlon's lawyer, Plato Cacheris, was asked whether any other members of Congress had anything to fear. I have no comment on that, he replied.

Until recently, Mr. Scanlon occupied a powerful - and lucrative - position at the intersection of political power and lobbying influence. For several years, he worked as a top aide to Representative Tom DeLay of Texas, the Republican majority leader. He left Mr. DeLay's office in 2000 to become an associate of Jack Abramoff, a Republican lobbyist.

Mr. Abramoff and Mr. Scanlon earned more than $80 million representing a few wealthy Indian tribes on gambling issues. Those transactions have been under investigation by the Senate Indian Affairs Committee as well as federal prosecutors.

In an e-mail message made public by the committee, Mr. Scanlon seemed to lust for wealth, and seemed to see the Indian tribes as easy targets. I want all their money!!! he wrote of one tribe in 2002. Referring to the money available from another tribe, he exclaimed, Weeez gonna be rich!!!

Mr. DeLay has been indicted in Texas on charges involving political fund-raising that are not related to the inquiry in which Mr. Scanlon pleaded guilty today. And Mr. Abramoff has been indicted in Florida on unrelated fraud-and-conspiracy charges involving an attempt to buy a fleet of casino boats.

Like Mr. Ney, Mr. DeLay has been named as a beneficiary of Mr. Abramoff's and Mr. Scanlon's generosity. He, too, has denied wrongdoing. Mr. Cacheris, when asked whether Mr. DeLay had reason to worry over Mr. Scanlon's cooperating with prosecutors, said, You'll have to ask his lawyers.

Not me, I'm drinking Obama-aide. I haven't been....sm
this happy in almost 50 years. My Hope-ometer is off the chart. I think that honesty is refreshing and no malice was intended. It was funny. I am still chuckling over politically incorrect Jill and the response of her husband, Oprah and the audience.
Senate scandal snares Obama Chief Aide...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5337807.ece
The fact that an article was written does not make it fact. I hope you know that. nm
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you stated this better than I could have.

I sickens me how the victims of this disaster are now being blamed and vilified by people on the conservative board!


My son (age 20) told me that he met some people last night who were speaking the same way - in essence, that it was the fault pf the citizens of New Orleans for not getting out in time, etc, that they deserved to not be rescued sooner, and that the government was not to blame at all.


And I'm sure those conservative posters on the other board probably consider themselves good Christians and not racist at all.


Meanwhile, it is apparent that our president could do (or not do) anything at all and they will blindly defend him...


I'm going to focus on the positive and not visit that board at all.


We have sent money to the Red Cross and all my children donated clothes to the Salvation Army. This morning our priest said that some evacuees may be relocating to our area, and our parish will welcome them! These are our brothers and sisters in Christ...


 


good night and peace to ya'll


As I stated above.......... sm
if this situation were to occur, and it does seem that it is with the advent of ASR, then our line rates would be lowered to those paid to Indian MTS, just as the UAW was offered what is paid to foreign auto workers. I could not survive on 0.05 cpl or less in our economy. I doubt anyone else could either.

I'm really sorry to hear about your hubby's situation. I know anyone in the housing industry is facing much the same situation. There is really not a lot of new house construction going on and there is no much call for a trim carpenter in most commercial building.

My opinion is to bring MT back inhouse and pay us a decent HOURLY salary. We deserve it as much as the next person.
he also stated that he

respects other people's beliefs that are different from his own and supports separation of church and state.  I guess all we can learn from this issue is that Joe Biden will never personally have an abortion.  Good job, Joe.


 


As stated above . . .
according to her a heterosexual relationship can be equated to a plastic cup and a turkey baster.
You stated

"My point is proven by your post.  You stated that when Obama gets into office, for me to look around and see how many names I can pronounce.. "


This happened under Clinton before Bush. Can't pronounce half the names now. Guess I fell down on my research a bit as I didn't see anything about the "Muslim for Stowe, OH" appointed by Bush.


 


VERY well stated!! :-) thank you
this is just too awesome on SO many planes!!!
Very Very well Stated
Yes, the moral compasses do seem to change from day to day on here, you are right.

Thank you for this post. It is very well put.
Excuse me? JM has clearly stated his will be
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What would be a lie about verses stated
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I stated in my post that I had
posted that below.  If you find it a waste of time, please feel free to ignore what I've said instead of being hateful.
Where is that stated, and what does nawnaw mean??
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Yes, that is what he stated, but it was not true....
hospitals were allowing babies to die. And that was his SECOND excuse when the first one about Roe v. wade didn't fly. Do you take EVERYthing he says at face value?
You mean 120,000, not 250,000 as stated on Fox news.nm
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I do believe that to as I stated in my message
But we have been told over and over that we have been lying about Obama, and these are not the two issues that keep coming up. We ask what lies are we being accused of telling so we can provide credible sources but nobody comes back with anything. Most likely because what we expressed as our fears and the sources we provided were truths.
But they are "credible" as you stated above. sm
yeah, right.
More accurately stated, this is
the disaffected, sour grapes poor-me's, hand-wringing over-wrought imaginary concept of O's plan, courtesty of the eve-of-destruction clan who does not have the courage to depict it accurately or conduct an informed pros-and-cons discussion since they are trying to promote their recently out-voted world view.
What is racist about what the OP stated?
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Bristol also stated that she would...
have preferred getting pregnant 10 years later, having finished her college education and having landed a job.
Sounds to me that she was prevented to make her choice.
He stated they have already identified....
numerous projects and programs that are outdated or do not work, which he will be eliminating, that will save us 2 trillion dollars........I believe he will cut our deficit. That savings right there more than pays for the current stimulus bill.
Oh come on! She stated she was nervous.
at that age and up in front of an audience and national TV. Oh please!
Very well stated. LOL. I have always like Ollie North. nm
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What the original post stated

is that one of the issues that should be foremost on people's minds is why did we go to war with Iraq after 9/11 when Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11? At the time the Bush administration linked Iraq to 9/11 as justification for going to war with them. He lied.  He knew the people of this Country were vulnerable after 9/11 and he used that vulnerability. Look at what his lie has cost us. Not only should the people in this Country be outraged, they should be asking why.


John McCain supported this war, as did many others at the time. Barack Obama did not. He knew the facts, understood the situation and made the right choice, though it wasn't a popular one at the time. Why didn't John McCain?


Read Bob Woodward's books. He got his information directly from interviews with Bush and his admininstration. Remember the 9/11 Commission Report? These are not opinions - they are facts.


People are being diverted from the issues for a reason. John McCain doesn't want people to think about his lack of sound judgment at such a crucial time.


Your right - I should have stated it in my orginal post
Democrats won't stop spending. They tax us more while at the same time continue to spend.

My mom told me once, if you don't stop spending your not going to have anything for retirement or pay off your bills. I would think its the same way with government. If they keep taxing us more and more and more, why isn't the deficit going down? Every president that gets in promises us he will get the deficit down and have a balanced budget. Not one president (to include Bill Clinton) as done this. The deficit keeps growing and growing and the following president inherits it.
MSNBC just stated that the FEC is is going to audit (sm)

Barack Obama. Supposedly, he accepted donations from foreign nationals. Most of these donations were made over the internet and they are going to check into this.


FEC ordered O's compaign to provide more information about large sums of money coming into his campaign recently. Someone donated $11,000 to his campaign under the name of Good Will, and that he worked for YOU. Plus gave the address of Good Will Industries. When contacted, GWI stated they did not donate this money.


Another donation was supposedly by a liquor store in NY, but when contacted, they knew nothing about it.


Although they do not have to disclose small donations ($100-$250), Good Will donated the $11,000 in small increments thinking they would not be found out.


Could it be that the sh## is going to hit the fan soon...hopefully?


Biden stated 150K.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/10/31/obamas-tax-threshold-slips-again/


I am sure they will figure it out if O wins.  I also heard it could go to 41,600K.


The last presidental speech with O and M, Obama stated 200K and not 250K.  It came right out of his mouth. 


That's okay, too. You just stated you wanted our reasons
why, so I stated mine.  Won't let that happen again, though.  From now on, I think I'll just read and not post.  I didn't think my reasons would be dissected.  I thought this was only a poll. Have a blessed day!
Oh--as I've stated many times...
I back the war 150%. I think that taking down Hussein will be something that Bush will be commended for in times to come. We just happen to have a society that is so against fighting for anything, that we forget that fighting for other people's rights is important. Hussein killed many many people and I think that Bush did a great thing in getting rid of him, no matter the reasoning. If only it had been done sooner...
Some believe O stated 57 states meaning
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News just stated they are now trying to determine
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I accused nobody of anything. I simply stated that
a triple digit IQ, i.e., intelligence quotient, as in intelligent leadership, would be good for the country for a change, the implication being we have not had that until now. If it speaks stupid, thinks stupid, looks stupid and acts stupid, chances are it is, well, stupid.

I do not spend any time on sites that speculate about widely varying IQ scores for either party's candidates, since that type of data can only produce subjective conclusions. I also do not pursue illogical arguments that in one breath give Obama's SAT/LSAT scores and in the next, accuse him of hiding that information. For me, SAT scores and IQ are 2 mutually exclusive concepts unless and until someone can produce a resource that can convince me otherwise.

I made a simple statement in response to Bushisms which any self-respecting American would find embarrassing and not worthy of the highest office in the land. That statement was construed as some sort of accusation in a reply from somebody who felt the need to defend Bush. I answered that by further discussion of Bush's stupidity, not his IQ. I was not focused on the number, rather the lack of intelligence.

Therefore, I feel no need to defend my position nor excuse myself for not conducting exhaustive research in defense of somebody else's ideas and number hang-ups.

I want smart leadership. Sue me.
Absolutely not! I stated below that I meant no
observation that not every one who receives help is unable to do some sort of work in return, and then their are those who could not possibly do anything, and those - like your son, who are doing all they can.
Where did I state that? I simply stated
You've really got a bee in your bonnet today, don't you?
O stated he doesn't want to talk about it

Very short and snippy yesterday with the reporters who asked any questions about it. I don't think he wants to get involved.


A Link? As I stated, this was a quote
from a letter I received from the SSA. I don't know how to include a link to this. However, if you go to the SSA website, I believe you will find the info you are looking for: http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10519.html
I agree. It was Sarah Palin who stated that...
Obama "is different than the rest of us."  In Carson, California, there were hecklers in the crowd when SP was speaking, saying "off with his head, kill him" about Obama.  SP didn't even stop those comments.  She just kept on with her derogatory comments about Obama.  That was inciting a riot.
Yeah, what's wrong with that - only stated what Obama
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Extremely well-stated post! I agree with you 100%
Most importantly, it was YOUR decision, along with your doctor. It was NOT the decision nor the business of anyone else.

Hats off to you!
and in 2006, he stated he would not run for president in 2008 (nm)

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Limbaugh stated today he was asked to do an op-ed for the whole situation. nm
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An earlier poster stated that about 76% of this nation is Christian
This, proportionately, means that 76% of what you see, read, watch, or are "bombarded with" is at least 76% done by Christians (feel free to make the Jew media comment, but they get their Commandments in the same place you do).

Therefore, it can be taken away that there are Christians who do not believe the same thing you do. Do you want to silence them, too?
Get it right...President-elect Barack Obama stated it
was people's choice if they chose to have an abortion.  Nevertheless, you live in america and he is your president as well, just go ahead and face the fact.  It does not matter whether you trust him or not, he is your president, RESPECT him as such!!!!!!!
Obama has opened his mouth and stated his opinion
about everything else during this transition, why so silent on Israel?
I stated 8 years ago that Bush' foreign "Policies"
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Sorry, JTBB, other countries use worse torture than what was stated here.

They starve, cut off fingers, hands, pull nails out, burn private parts, and decapitate prisoners in other countries.  Why do you call other people with their comments "nimrods?"


If you want to torture to stop, why don't you go to those countries and fight against their torture? No...you'd rather call the American people nimrods. What is it with you? You used to have thoughtful posts, but now all you do is spew hate for Americans that do not support your views.


You are becoming anti-American IMHO and its sad that you could let the present government blind you to everything. You're either a socialist, facist, or a communist without announcing it up front. You have absolutely made me furious with your one-sided posts since the election. I try not to read them, but sometimes I do get a good laugh at your outrageous statements.


 


Nope....she just stated she was here to post issues for her fellow liberals...
(or he, whichever the case may be), and I just mentioned I had not seen any issues posted. Are YOU the posting police?
That's a good, fair article. Very well stated. Thanks for posting the link!....nm