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Anyone know anything about Jimmy Carter? Most  people (even Republicans) agree that he was/is an exceptionally good man, maybe the most moral man in recent years. From what I have read, though, he was not a 'beltway insider" and therefore not able to get anything done.

Having said that, I thing Obama is a good man and I think Hillary is bascially a good woman. However I am afraid Obama will be another Jimmy Carter, a truly good man who is unable to be very effective.

Just my thoughts!

I posted on this about six weeks ago.  This group was in a small town in Wisconsin near me and got EXTREMELY negative press, of course, so at least that was good.  I did feel really really bad, though, for the family of the soldier that died and their being forced into this ridiculous spectacle.

I try to feel better about it by thinking these radical evangelical crazies come out in the open and end up revealing to the general American public how nuts they are that and that perhaps as a result some of the current Republican love affair with evangelicals may erode a bit.  Now, of course, I realize they don't represent Christians in general.....I'll stop there.

Below is from the Protestwarrior website or else "RNC Watch":

Although the Protest Warriors usually make a big deal about how they have been the victims of leftist "violence," several of their recent bulletin board posts advocate carrying concealed weapons to demonstrations at the RNC. "I would bring pepper spray," writes one. "I will be utilizing my concealed weapons permit," writes another. "We should be prepared for violence," writes a third. These posts are similar to the infamous CraigsList NYC posting of more than a year ago in which a New Yoker wrote that "We need good old fashioned Conservatives, the kind that believe in God, Country, and Family (the Mom and Dad kind), the kind that played football, baseball, and basketball, to help with security [at the RNC]. This is totally separate from the organized Convention. We will meet the groups determined to disrupt the open discussion of ideas (the Convention) with a group of our own and battle them in the streets of New York."

You can also see picture of the founders of Protest Warriors lovingly cradling high-powered fire-arms on the PW website. "ProtestWarrior HQ is now heavily armed," the site operators write.

(Picture Caption: The Founder of Protest Warriors) Recently, a small media stir was created by a tiny, right-wing fringe group known as the Protest Warriors.

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ProtestWarrior Forum Index » Now that's Entertainment » Pictures guaranteed to terrify liberals Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 125, 126, 127  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Pictures guaranteed to terrify liberals Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:50 pm Alan Site Admin Location: Austin, TX Gender: Male We recently drove out to San Angelo, TX to meet up with our good friend Chris, a Marine who offered to take us out shooting and teach us the finer points of peace through superior firepower. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_08.jpg Chris has some GREAT bumper stickers on his car. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_01.jpg "Phased plasma pulse-laser in the forty watt range... " "Just what you see, pal." http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_03.jpg Chris brought a wide selection. Everything from 22s to 357 hand cannons. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_02.jpg "Leftist troll 12 o' clock." http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_04.jpg Can you tell I'm a big John Woo fan? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_07.jpg When I hold you in my arms And I feel my finger on your trigger I know nobody can do me no harm Because happiness is a warm gun... -Lennon/McCartney http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_11.jpg You feeling lucky, punk? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_10.jpg Is there anything sweeter than the sound of shotgun shells ejecting? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_05.jpg Chris is one guy you do not want to f--k with. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_09.jpg Chris was kind enough to loan us some weapons to take back with us, so thanks to him ProtestWarrior HQ is now heavily armed. So to all the leftists that want to completely disarm the populace, all we have to say is come get some. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:56 pm BPond Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Total posts: 7833 Hell yeah! Those are great photos! Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:56 pm OB_one Location: Virginia (Northern Neck) Age: 72 Gender: Male Great Pics Alan. Looks like you two gonna become real "badasses" Thanks for sharing. OB Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:14 pm Orange Jewce Location: Washington, DC Age: 18 Gender: Male http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_11.jpg Somebody who knows how to doctor images should write "PWNAGE!" right across this sweet picture. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:15 pm BOgg Gender: Unknown great pictures, shows what you stand for. War and violence. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:17 pm TheInfragableKrunk Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Total posts: 14052 Location: Washington, American Empire (AE) Age: 20 Gender: Male Actually we stand for peace via superior firepower. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:18 pm Alan Site Admin Location: Austin, TX Gender: Male BOgg wrote: great pictures, shows what you stand for. War and violence. BOgg earlier wrote: One thing's for sure, prepare for your in-home (usa) war, too much opposition is growing and its gonna blow in your faces. If bush is re-elected, ill be the first to assassinate him. Yeah, we're not peace-lovers like Bogg. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:21 pm Moderate Centrist Location: Neve Dekalim, Gush Katif Age: 29 Gender: Male Alan, you guys are heros. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:22 pm Orange Jewce Location: Washington, DC Age: 18 Gender: Male Alan and Kfir, Why can't you ban that pseudo-poet, Straight Outta Here, He wants it and you know it! Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:22 pm Yes. We are a group of individuals. Did you lose your dictionary? any group that insists its beliefs are the only true beliefs, works actively to force those beliefs on me, believes men rode around on dinosaurs, and wants to control my reproductive organs, and keep my children in the dark about their sexual function is not my enemy, but I do avoid them. Oh, and Jehovah's Witnesses banging on my door -- I avoid them too.   There are fanatics in any group and usually they are an embarrassment to the rest of that group, and usually are the most hypocritical. I can't speak for other Christians, but I do apologize to anyone who has been made uncomfortable by one. Usually a "no thanks" should suffice. :) Why does anyone or any group want you to vote? To support their agenda. That goes for democrats, republicans....Obama's agenda is socialism. Thanks, but no thanks. group of cells....... Gee, yea, we were a group of cells. That is how God planned it to be, so just because you were a group of cells, you would have hoped your mother would dispose of you JUST because you were a group of cells on the way to making a human being? Just out of curiousity, exactly what group of people would fall in the category of *redneck ignoramouses?* I have heard the term redneck before and kind of get a mental picture when I hear that. I would just like to know for sure. You seem so knowledgeable about the monkey issue. Thanks. Not a group I'd ever want to be included in. x this is what my moms group said when I would not get pregnant, even though I had a several kids. Not Republican enough! Ha!Ha! Not mommies and me enough! Oh, please. Any group has their nutcases. nm Every group has their nut jobs. You cannot group all conservatives into that category especially since there are just as many nut jobs on the liberal side.  Get over yourself and give me a break!  glad to see you and weepaws are having that big group hug Pat yourselves on the back I'm sure you are both loving parents. Congrats! Sarah Palin is too. To try to insinuate she doesn't love her kids because she works outside the home is too absurd. That's nice you can both work at home. That is a choice we have been able to make due to people like Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin wants to make the country a better place. That is a very admireable trait in her. Listening to you two talk you are sending us back to the 1940s and 1950s where a woman's place was in the home, in the kitchen, barefoot and having babies. If your for Obama and Biden that's fine but to cut down someone who is trying to make the country a better place for her children and she has the loving support and help from her husband and family there is nothing wrong with that. Overall it sounds like you are quite nervous because Obama and Biden are going to have to do better than they have been to win. Your hatred and loathing is coming out. Just gives me the heebie jeebies to listen to it. Why else would any religious group want you to vote? Silly girl! Replace all your dems with you. Do not group all...sm the posts on this board to one party or the other. Whenever a lone person posts something that you don't agree with, you attribute it to all democrats. We do not all think alike. That is the wonderful thing about us, we do not march in step, we march to different drummers to a common cause. Another rightwing slander group. Is that all you got? nm x Another leftwing slander group. Is that all you got?- sm You have no proof whatsoever to back any of this up. This is about as good as when they said she banned books from the library and one of those books was Harry Potter. What the leftwing forgot to remember was Harry Potter hadn't even been written yet when they said she banned it. The leftwingers are in a frenzy to try and trash McCain & Palin because it's not looking to great for Obama and Biden. If Obama and Biden were so great and "everyone" wanted him as president he would be soaring ahead in the polls. But he's not. He's neck and neck and depending on which poll you read he's either ahead or behind by just a few points. Looks like the right-wing group is getting a little testy! (nm) :p CITI group bailout Okay, MSN just said the new administration will go into significant deficit spending to fund programs and bailout. They are talking a 700 Billion package here. Can anyone tell me how they will do that and where does deficit money come from? Seriously. I don't get it. Are we losing more and more of our future personal security here? Does this get borrowed from other sources (as in the spending they did instead of funding our social security?) Without that Social Security income in my future (not too far off, I might add) on top of what I have lost in my 401K and IRA, I am doomed. HAMAS is a terrorist group nm Like that group of scholars could determine anything.... how do we know WHO the cartoon meant? Get over it already. Unless the chimp is wearing a Hello, My Name is Obama sticker, we don't know who it represents. See the above thread about Holder regarding jumping to conclusions. What hate group do you suppose you ## maybe common for your age group (my dear) zoom, zoom, zoom I think you have a misogynistic overtone. Look that up. I definitely do not condone group sex, eeewww!... It is one after the other! All together, ewwww! It became political when a group of activist judges... thumbed their noses at the Constitution and legalized abortion from the bench. Let's get the facts straight. I don't understand why, if you folks are so sure you are right, you get so angry when someone disagrees with you. At least admit what you are giving the right to choose. The right to kill a baby. Because that is what is happening. If left alone the child would mature and be born. It is alive. It is moving, heart is beating, taking nourishment. Alive, no matter how much you deny it. So when you have an abortion, you are killing a child. If you are pro choice, you are pro killing a child. At least be honest about it. As a matter of fact, I work with a group... who provide help and counseling to women/girls who find themselves in this position. We have referrals for adoption if that is the choice the person makes. If the person elects to keep the child (and I am pleased to say very many have), we have several agencies which help with that. We have businesses who will provide jobs. We have housing referrals. And we do not stop supporting once the baby is born. We have a network of volunteers who will help with babysitting while the mother works until she can afford daycare. And most of the girls who make the decision to have and keep their child are very motivated to provide for that child. If it takes a week, a month, or a year, we help with that. We have had girls come in after an abortion wanting to talk to someone and we try to help those girls cope. The abortion providers are nowhere to be found when the regret sets in. And often times, it does set in. I am also glad to say that some of those girls have joined us as volunteers. So I do put my money where my mouth is. It is a very small fish in a very large barrel...but if one baby is not aborted, I consider it a victory. The concept is similar to any group plan. without compromising the care. It is the FEHB (Federal Employees health Benefits) program. It is really good coverage, low deductibles, several choices. Heres the home page website: http://www.opm.gov/insure/05/index.asp I have never in my life seen a group of people in such denial over EVERYTHING!! Get your heads out You people deny that the dems are responsible for the housing crisis.  Do some objective research!!  They most certainly DID cause the crisis!  You deny that the voter fraud from ACORN is a big deal, and that they are not trying to sway the election to any particular side!!!  There were over 200,000 fraudulent votes in Ohio alone!!  I was watching on CNN about this (the station that NEVER says anything negative towards liberals), and they were even talking about what a huge problem this is.  They showed a ballot with the name of Jimmie Johns.  They found the address, and it was Jimmie Johns restaurant - and there are 10s of thousands of ballots like this.  And who worked for ACORN?  Yup - the people's Messiah Obama.  And somehow you all will find a way to minimize this and twist the facts, and probably blame me for telling this to you... For crying out loud. His target group IS workers are so low that they come up not owing tax at the end of the year, then it would not be possible to give them a tax cut or a tax credit, unless it is a refundable tax credit. So far, you have not provided any evidence that Obama is proposing a REFUNDABLE tax credit. As a matter of fact, why do you supposed he call this tax credit "Making WORK pay." The credit will zero out at zero tax liability unless it is a refundable tax credit. Again, it seems like you cannot produce any evidence that this is the case. Or can you? What about the socialist question with regard to progressive tax reform proposals only being socialist at Obama's hands, an no other president in history since 1913, including the 7 republicans who raise the top income bracket rates to as high as 63% to 94%, as opposed to Obama, whose intent is to restore that rate back to 39.6% as it was in 2000 when Bush took office? It is not the same at all, not picking on a specific group,race, or ethnicity....sm as a matter of fact, some of my worst dictators are AMERICAN, they hate dictating and so act like little kids and speed talk, trip all over their words, slur everything together, mispronounce without correcting themselves, chew, burp, rattle papers and x-rays, etc., and then will correct several paragraps because they "forgot" this or that. At least foreign docs have an excuse, and many try to enuniciate clearly, spell things, out, etc. There is no comparison here...complaining about high percentage of difficult docs in your queue is not the same as drawing a "cartoon" that points directly in one direction, is poorly disguised, and is dispersed and disseminated in a national, hugely circulated newpaper. Let's blame Clinton...Let's blame Obama. The FACT is that Bush BECAME prez on 01/20/01.  He was told by Clinton to beware!!  It was Bush's duty to know, to care what was going on.... the FACT is he didn't give a rat's patooty!!!  FACT is he was on vacation most of his first 7 months in office.  The FACT is he stared into space for 7 minutes after being told America was under attack while kindergarteners were reading "MY PET GOAT."  I am so sick of the LIES you people want to ram down my throat.  And when Obama takes office, God-willing, I am positive he will be under a microscope like NO president has ever been as there is a different standard set for him and never has a president-elect undergone so much criticisizm BEFORE taking office.  Just in the interest of full disclosure, other members of the Carlyle Group.... They include among others, John Major, former British Prime Minister; Fidel Ramos, former Philippines President; Park Tae Joon, former South Korean Prime Minister; Saudi Prince Al-Walid; Colin Powell, former Secretary of State; James Baker III, former Secretary of State; Caspar Weinberger, former Defense Secretary; Richard Darman, former White House Budget Director; the billionaire George Soros, and even some bin Laden family members. You can add Alice Albright, daughter of Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State; Arthur Lewitt, former SEC head; William Kennard, former head of the FCC, to this list. Finally, add in the Europeans: Karl Otto Poehl, former Bundesbank president; the now-deceased Henri Martre, who was president of Aerospatiale; and Etienne Davignon, former president of the Belgian Generale Holding Company. I never knew George Soros was a member. I never bothered to check. Now THAT is interesting. Also, in the interest of putting it all out there...the bin Laden family disowned Osama years before 9-11. Like your no-class group that shouted "Kill Him" regarding O at a GOP rally? With Palin? or don't you remember that? Bunch of hypocrites - you guys dish it but you sure don't like to take it. Any group that insists its beliefs are the only true beliefs, works actively to force those beliefs on me, have reduced sex to "expression" and the more partners the better, needs to control their reproductive organs a little bit better, not my enemies either, but their way is not the only way...hellooo democracy...it's part of your name isn't it? As to Jehovah's Witnesses, I take their booklet, thank them kindly, and throw it in the trash. No one is forcing anything on you. clinton You mean wonderful super intelligent President Bill Clinton and his lovely super intelligent lawyer wife, Hiliary?  So much better than the dufus warmonger and Stepford wife in the WH right now..Jerks, both of them, backward thinking monsters, Bush and Stepford. clinton I think Clinton should have been impeached. He is to be a role model? Please, what kind of a role model is that cheating on his wife. No on Clinton as VP No way can Obama offer VP to Queen Hillary.  He should remember what happened to JFK (with Johnson being involved).  What a better way for the Queen to annoint herself to the presidency by getting rid of him.  Don't put it past her either - just remember Ron Brown, Vince Foster, Eric Fox, Sandy Hume, Danny Casolaro, Ronald Rogers, John Wilson, Gandy Baugh, Mary Mahoney, Suzanne Coleman, Judy Gibbs, Gary Johnson, Kathy Ferguson, Bell Shelton, Sally Perdue (didn't mysteriously die but was told if she didn't keep her mouth shut they would break her legs), Jon Walker, Johnny Franklin, Ed Willey, Barbara Alice Wise, Jerry Parks, C. Victor Raiser, L.J. Davis, Herschel Friday, Ron Brown, and the list goes on and on an on.... So no, I would not put it past either of them that something would happen and she would swear herself in as the anointed queen.  Lets just hope Obama has more sense - which I believe he does. Clinton Where do I start?  I love Bill Clinton.  Hs is very intelligent, he can talk about anything and knows what he is talking about.  He did what the first person posted.  He was impeached but he could not be removed from office because he was impeached for was not govenment and it has to pertain to the government to be removed from office.  He was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth and he earned everything he got.  He has worked very hard.  Funny, but I get the same sick feeling in my stomach whenever I see George Bush's face on TV and the man cannot even speak so how he can do anything else.   The trillion dollar debt, people with no jobs, and the list goes on and on.  Put us in a war we had no business being in.  He has never done anything on his own that turned out good.  Whatever he did was with the help of his father or someone else doing it for him.   He will not return to Crawford, they are going to build a house, but I forgot the location, and he will not be traveling around the world working to get meds for  AIDS patients, starving  children, etc.  Maybe he can help bring back other countries to like us again like they used to until Bush told just about everyone of them he did not need their help and made them angry with us.  I could go on and on but I am tired and going to bed.                          This has been going on even when Clinton was in office.  This has been going on for years.  Shoot, I lived in Arizona for 25 years and illegals were everywhere.  Finally, Arizona will NOT hire anyone that is illegal.  The companies have to hire people who show BC and if the employees do not, they are not hired.  So most illegals moved to other states.  Also the companies are audited and have to show proof that each employee is legal or the company will be fined.  Arizona has border patrol that runs along Mexico and Arizona and that should have been up years ago.  Even tried putting up border control when Clinton was in office, but everyone ignored her plea until a few years ago.  Also work for a company that outsources to India.  This has been going on for years and years.  When the O takes over, he will probably sell our country out and will be worse.  He says he will help the the middle class yet cause electricity rates to skyrocket and so on.  I do not trust O with ANYTHING.  He is a smooth talker, the ones I do not trust.  If McCain wins, at least I know he will try to make our country safe from nukes of Iran.     Again I will say it. Clinton and his cronies cooked the books. There was no surplus. It came out after an audit after Bush got in office. I really do wonder how Clinton will http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480126,00.html U.S. Obtains New Evidence of Iranian Nuclear Intrigue Friday, January 16, 2009 Iran Presidency Office Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad inspects the Natanz nuclear plant in central Iran. WASHINGTON — U.S. security and law-enforcement officials say they have fresh evidence of recent efforts by Iran to evade sanctions and acquire metals from China used in high-tech weaponry, including long-range nuclear missiles, the Wall Street Journal reported Friday. Iran's efforts are detailed in a series of recent emails and letters between Iranian companies and foreign suppliers seen by The Wall Street Journal. Business records show one Iranian company, ABAN Commercial & Industrial Ltd., has contracted through an intermediary for more than 30,000 kilograms (about 66,000 pounds) of tungsten copper — which can be used in missile guidance systems — from Advanced Technology & Materials Co. Ltd. of Beijing. One March 2008 email between the firms mentions shipping 215 ingots, with more planned. The United Arab Emirates has informed the U.S. that in September it intercepted a Chinese shipment headed to Iran of specialized aluminum sheets that can be used to make ballistic missiles. A month earlier, UAE officials also intercepted an Iran-bound shipment of titanium sheets that can be used in long-range missiles, according to a recent letter to the U.S. Commerce Department from the UAE's Washington ambassador. Evidence of Iran's efforts to acquire sensitive materials also is emerging from investigations by state and federal prosecutors in New York into whether a number of major Western banks illegally handled funds for Iran and deliberately hid Iranian transactions routed through the U.S. One focus of the inquiries is the role of Italy, including the Rome branch of Iran's Bank Sepah and Italy's Banca Intesa Sanpaolo Spa. Banca Intesa said it is cooperating in the inquiries. Iran Produces Enough Uranium to Build Nuclear Weapon The developments could present President-elect Barack Obama with an early test in responding to what many Washington security officials now say is a rapidly growing threat to the region, including U.S. allies Israel and Saudi Arabia. All of the high-performance metals Iran has been acquiring also have industrial uses such as commercial aviation and manufacturing, making it difficult for intelligence agencies to be absolutely certain how the materials are being used. "We can't say we know it would, or would not, be used for military purposes," said proliferation expert Gary Milholland of the nonprofit Wisconsin Project on Nuclear Arms Control, noting that broad economic sanctions on Tehran led by the U.S. mean Iran has to go to unusual lengths to find high-grade materials for industrial use as well as weapons. Still, he added, "There doesn't seem to be any real doubt or debate whether Iran is going for the bomb or whether Iran is using front companies to import things. Everyone agrees on that around the world." Officials at the International Atomic Energy Agency said they believe Iran could have enough fissile material for an atomic weapon sometime this year, though it would need to be further processed into weapons-grade uranium. That assessment was echoed Thursday by Central Intelligence Agency Director Michael V. Hayden. U.S. and European governments have grown increasingly alarmed in recent months at the speed they believe Iran is developing ballistic-missile and nuclear capabilities. Last year the United Nations Security Council, which includes China, formally imposed sanctions on Iran's military and most of its banks for nuclear proliferation activities. A spokesman for Iran at its U.N. mission in New York declined to comment. China "has been strictly implementing" U.N. proliferation sanctions on Iran, said a spokesman for the Chinese foreign ministry in Beijing. The export of restricted items such as high-grade metals, which include specialized aluminum and titanium, is prohibited, he added. Wow, Clinton Probably had Monica hiding under the desk. LOL. Sorry, could not resist. © Copyright 2001-09 MTStars.com All Rights Reserved