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Posted By: a robocaller. nm on 2008-10-25
In Reply to: Also... - frustrated

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Using her name humanizes her. She IS a real person...
she does have a life and doesn't deserve to be political fodder. At least Obama had the grace to say so...he has more class that a lot of his followers, that's for sure.
Of course she's a real person. My point is that no one here knows her
They want to claim she's being thrust into the spotlight against her wishes and used, but honestly, this young gal would've been in the spotlight anyway. Besides, she made her own bed, so to speak, knowing her mother was a political figure. I'm not saying I'd have my kids in the spotlight like that, but I've never had political aspirations so I don't understand the mentality. The fact is, though, as Barack has said, one should be able to keep their family private despite their celebrity or political status.
Say what?? I am talking about a specific person whom I personally think...sm
is over-the-top, an embarrasmment to the President in many ways because of her ultra-liberal stance, but I am not "bashing" any Democrats, Republicans, or anyone else in particular here except Ms. Pelosi herself, and I was trying put a teensy tiny bit of humor on the board, sorry I did not pass it by you first, and you make no sense here because I am generally Democratic, not that that has anything to do with this?????? Wow, I honestly gave you more credit for intelligence and fairness than that.
This person was talking about the 2000 debit cards and calling them handouts...sm
Now is not the time to be talking about handups in the midst of a national disaster like the one in NO. In a time like this it is too late for that and inappropriate. But enlighten me, what kind of handup has the republican party offered the displaced NO citizens?

These people NEED HANDOUTS AND YESTERDAY, until they can regain some type of normal existence and then handups would be good. Some people can't stand to see a person get anything. I've learned that's just how some people are. Even though they are cush in front of their computers posting away, they think if I'm not getting 2000 dollars from the government neither should they. And then there's the, I got mine croud. They feel that these people should have educated themselves, worked harder and they wouldn't be in this position, so let em' stay in the astrodome until they can figure something out.

I don't agree and think these compasionate conservative Christians who think this way should ask themselves WWJD?


yes, the first person did....the person replying to that post...
was talking about the founding fathers...who came along a long time after the witch trials. You replied to the second post, not the first one. I was replying to you based on that. Purtianism came first...Christianity was the religion practiced by the founding fathers. It is evident in their writings and in most of our original documents.

I think we can stop whipping this dead horse now.
No, goofy. Republicans are REAL people, real
nm
If the real folks, with real hope, faith, and
and for our country's future who participate here on this forum were just a tad as healthy, wealthy and wise as this poster considers herself, we probably wouldn't be sitting in front of these silly computers trying to make a living!! Can't figure why she is here other than tell us how healthy, wealthy and wise she is and we are not!
Whoops....A person....not I person.
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When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO

 


who provides campaign funds.  Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines?  Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills?  Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head?  Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble.  God, I could go on and on here but I get tired.  The nation is in such trouble.  Serious serious trouble.  There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics?  did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference.  lol.  


Well I want you to know what fascism.  And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks.  Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself?  There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota.  You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice.  Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened. 


THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!  Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake! 


Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.


Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
nm
I am, not talking about Clinton, I am talking
about the torture of prisoners, crimes against the Geneva conventions.

It seems that you did not read the last sentence in my former post.

Are you saying that crimes from the near past should all be forgotten?
No, we are not the same person....
Americangirl is a Republican I believe, and I am an independent (who changed my registration to Repub so I could vote in the primary, but will be changing back), but yes, we are both conservative. In some ways she more so than I, in some ways I more so than she. If you look at our posts, we are very different in how we post and we certainly don't agree with each other all the time.

The same could be said for many of the liberal posters. There is one for sure that posts under different monikers, but you can always tell...when one comes under attack the other swoops to defend. Americangirl and I do not post like that.

Thanks for asking.
Actually, you are the person who needs (sm)
to relax.  I really do not know why you keep insisting that someone was smeared.  It is rather bizarre.  She posted an article that mentioned his middle name, you created a huge post about his middle name and why it is used to attack him, I mention that you are creating issues over nothing, then you insist that someone is being smeared?  Very strange... 
if one person somewhere

said that one time, we must take it completely seriously and mention it at every opportunity.  Fight fire with fire.


 


Person like this is beyond help.
nm
The person who said this was not....
a commentator for Fox News. She is Caroline Baum and she works for Bloomberg News. She was being interviewed on the Fox Morning Show and was giving her opinion. Just that, her opinion. Why should there be outrage?
I'm the same person
Don't know how I got the two separated but just so you know I'm the same person. Don't want to appear misleading. Sometimes on the gab board I will put Kaydie and on the political board I put me, but every once inawhile the two get backwards. Not sure I can reset that so only one name will come up. Like I say, not being misleading I just don't know how to reset. PS, still been coming to the board here this morning since I last posted (I think I need some counseling to get un-addicted to this board ha ha), but still haven't had a chance to read your post. Still, thank you for the time you took to reseach and I will read with an open mind. After all I could be wrong. I usually tell people. I may not always be right, but I am never wrong. HA HA HA. Will read your post later - promise.
I think that each person needs to do what his ....sm
conscience tells him to do and not be criticized by us for doing so. Let the chips fall where they may.
Now I know this person is not an MT
"The fees for doing this are not cheap, but you are MTs and make high paying salaries, so $20,000 to $30,000 should not be a problem here." Made me laugh my butt off.
I don't see where this person is
racist at all.  This person is merely pointing out that there is racism out there on BOTH sides and this is what it could potentially lead to. 
No, this person's sig is also clearly sm as well
check it out, it's everywhere on here.
any person who

uses Hitler to compare anyone to, be it Obama or Bush, deserves to be ignored.  There is no comparison to be made in this country to that era.  To use his name for shock value shows extreme ignorance of history and inability to grasp basic facts, let alone nuances, relying instead on the worst of the worst.  Shameful and ignorant.


 


I think it's down to $400/person now......sm
another cut courtesy of our esteemed politicians. That's only about $8.25 a week or a couple gallons of milk, at least at current prices.
And not one person gives him

a freebie just because of his skin color either....Sheesh. 


I'll admit there are some people who are going to hate Obama just because he is black or mixed or whatever the heck he really is.  But there are several people following him blindly for the exact same reason.  So if you are going to post about racism....please do so fairly and consider both sides of the spectrum. 


And not one person gives him

a freebie just because of his skin color either....Sheesh. 


I'll admit there are some people who are going to hate Obama just because he is black or mixed or whatever the heck he really is.  But there are several people following him blindly for the exact same reason.  So if you are going to post about racism....please do so fairly and consider both sides of the spectrum. 


I see a person as
either male or female. If that person decides to describe himself as a sin, that's how I will see them, based on the description they have given of themselves. And that description is sinful. Very simple. I hate the description because God tells me to hate it.
You're a very wise person.

There is a definite tendency for some posters on these boards (not so much this one) to very negatively judge a post based on who posted instead of what was contained in the post.  And you're right.  That just detracts from the entire value of the post when they do that.  (Anyone who doesn't believe me can visit the Conservative and see how they chew up and spit out those who don't assign nicknames to themselves.)


Thanks for posting and thanks for the link.


Do you always speak of yourself in the third person? sm
I see no difference in your writing style.  Same old stuff.
I probably have used third person at times....

Why is it so important to you? 


And if you cannot see the obvious differences in writing, well, you appear to be quite ignorant or unobservant or else you are not telling the truth.  But that is your problem and I am not going to make it mine!!!


Obviously, this person was not attacking. sm
The underlined part just goes to prove that they are NOT attacking liberals.  I am unsure of your rationalization on this one.
Obviously, this person does not wish to debate. TI
We are wasting our time here.
Who said a person should be president because
My point is that we should be glad there are women in elections and holding high-profile positions in this country instead of attacking their mothering skills or parenting choices. There are plenty of women who think ANY mother that works outside the home in any form is making a poor parenting choice. It should be to each his or her own, please do not try to twist my words to fit your agenda. I never, EVER said I would vote for someone solely to have a woman in office. I said I hailed Hillary's accomplishment, not that I would vote for her (in fact, I said I didn't care for her) and I never said I agree with everything Palin says or does, just that her family is her own business.

On the contrary, I don't vote gender, family, public opinion, or party affiliation, I vote based on the person's abilities and whether I feel they are qualified for the position. Period.
Sally, you really are a mean person.
nm
Any person earning less than $57,490/yr
income earners in the US. We are not taling about skid row bums and deadbeats. Ever heard of the concept of the shrinking middle class? Is that a good thing for the nation? The lower 40% of the ENTIRE POPULATION of the US owns LESS THAN 1% of the total national wealth. This includes a very, very sizeable chunk of the entire middle class. MTs are always complaining about how they are not paid what they are worth. Does it make sense that all persons combined making less than $57,490/yr own less than 1% of the national wealth? Do these people do less than 1% of the work? Does this seem like an equitable distribution of wealth to you? Please answer these questions directly. Yes or no?
I person of faith

who pubically ridiculed the Bible in a speech. A man who has sketchy associations.  A man who attended a school in Indonesia were his school records list his religion as muslim and yet he denies ever being a muslim.  A man who allowed his children to be baptized and attend a church where the pastor preached hate messages.  A man who supports partial birth abortions......


Please excuse me while I vomit!


I don't think any one person, President or not, can do much - sm
to change the stock market. It seems to have a life of its own, albeit a rather shady one. I don't feel too bad seeing the insurance companies take a hit - they're all crooks and they deserve what they get for being so dishonest. But banks, 401Ks, money market, etc. There has to be someplace left, other than under a mattress, where our savings/rainy-day/retirement money is at least somewhat safe, without earning 0 interest. And forget about buying real-estate! That bubble has burst, as well. Goodbye to any kind of financial security (or even a place to live) for lots of us in our so-called 'Golden Years'.
Well, see, that person that posted obviously has it in...sm
for sam. I know it. You know it. Everbody who sees it knows it....sooooo there's nothing to say because this person says it all about herself.

This person and her buddies play games with her all the time, and really act childish.

And, I, well....really.....unless I resort to name calling, I really have nothing to say, because this person has waayyyyyyyy too much time on their hands and has a personal vendetta against sam.



And by the way, I'm not on the board very often. I don't respond to every single post I see. I don't know who you have me confused with.



But really, all you're doing is being kind of condescending in your response here to me, so why should I bother?



You have me labeled a certain way, and frankly my dear, as one of your cohorts has said recently.....well, just frankly.....


You have too much time on your hands too, if you think you have to post to everybody's post....get a life....while you're at it, get me one too. I work too much and come here and find too much crap posted to try to sift through in a day....so I rarely bother.....just like you rarely to bother to know who I am......


oh, I must be ranting again.....sorry.....you probably think I had nothing to say anyway......



lolololol....................


At least I can laugh at myself, which some on this board don't know how to do anymore.

This is not conviction but a person who has been
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That "unskilled" person could have been my
DH 25 years ago. The first and only company he has worked for sent him to school and now he is at over 200K a year, not too bad for unskilled.
As a godless person myself....
who used to call herself an atheist, until I discovered that in itself was a type of warped-ass "religion," I think it is totally rude, distateful, and smacks of looking for a fight.  Why can't we all just be good to one another?  It's so much easier to do and makes ya feel good inside. 
Why are you so concerned about this person?
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Tell me the last election that a person who is not
a natural born citizen ran for president. I was born in 1960 so maybe there were some before my time, but I thought every election the candidate was a natural born citizen.
This coming from the very person

who didn't know what sm and NM meant and thought every person using sm was the same person. 


At least I'm not blinded by the promise of change from a man who has no experience running anything but his mouth.


This is the sort of person
who should be put in front of "our boys" should there ever be an attach on our soil!
No, but that is certainly where this person's mind
There is an audio out of Harlem showing citizens there who didn't have a clue who was even running for office. This was black and white based, so the only racist person here is the one letting their minds go there. The "black lady" you're referring to has made racist remarks all over this board and funny how none of us have screamed for the moderator. She can dish it out but she lets her mind go where she wants to if she doesn't like something said.
To 'm' or 'sm' same person...s/m
You are most probably a woman who is unable to conceive. Or who chickened out on an abortion and regrets not having had an abortion.
Whatever it is you are jealous of women who can get pregnant and opt for an abortion.
We, women, who can conceive, have the right to abort a child till the 120th day of pregnancy, and I hope this law will be kept up.


You are one talented person..... sm

A mind reader AND a comedian.  You really should get your own show, ya know! 


Here again we have an instance of not looking at things the way they are.  Any SC justices appointed by Obama would not be in his pocket but in the pockets of those who put him in power in the first place.  Obama is nothing more than a puppet with some very wealthy puppeteers.  Do you not undestand that? 


you seem like a nice person.
NM
they did not lose one person
They lost an entire generation and their children too probably. Can you say 529 no more?
What an egotistical person.......
Somebody needs to remind Obama that the founding fathers already DID lay a foundation for our country; we sure as heck don't need him to do that.  He had the audacity to say the government needs to lay a foundation for our country......pleeeeze!   That was done a looong time ago; sorry to tell him but we don't need him to lay any foundations.  The foundation was laid and has worked when left alone; the only problems are had when federal government interferes with private lives and nothing will EVER change about that.  He somehow also believes he is everyone's answer to their problems.  Leave this economy alone and it will come back just like the other downs that we have had to deal with.  Of course, he knows this and in a couple of years when things are going much better, he will no doubt strut around like a rooster telling everyone how HE made this happen and for those lamebrains out there who think government is the answer to all their woes, they will actually believe it.   How sad!!!
How wrong can one person be?....sm
Well, for years I only posted on company or word board because I would see the postings popping up here and although I love political science and care about the country/world/planet, I thought so many of the posts were ugly, vicious personal attacks over nothing, childish vendettas against certain posters, etc., and I personally have enough crap to deal with in my own life, don't need to look for more.  But I cautiously stepped in.  I stupidly thought you could speak your mind, be honest, and have adult discussions that were fair and based on the issues, not personal attacks, not popurarity contests, etc.  HOW WRONG I WAS .  I have tried to be fair, have supported both sides and in the middle whenever I believed in a point, as I thought everyone else was, wrong again.  Well, when a "diversion" like this is no longer enjoyable, a learning process, etc., it's time to sign off.  I have loved "speaking" with many of you, and thanks for that.  But wow, I will go back to concentrating on my job and family and leave this board to the very brave, and also those who love to attack, ridicule, make everything personal, etc.  God bless those of you who remain, and I sincerely mean that.  And also realize that my leaving or staying does not mean a thing, no I do know that I am not important, just liked joining in for  a while.