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This is the site you fraudulently tried to pass off as the *truth* about Donahue. Sheesh!

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    Thanks for posting about Phil Donahue. I have not followed him, except sm
    way back when when he had his talk show I loved to watch.

    I agree with you, the site posted does not prove he is an atheist. I would have to hear it from his mouth to believe it.
    So if Donahue had a best selling book he would be credible?sm
    That's the right-wing way, get loud and obnoxious (Ann Coulter)and write a book and make $$$$ trashing liberals.
    Phil Donahue is the man. Had Bill O'Reilly shaking in his boots.nm
    He makes good points and the only thing you get from his stance is that he doesn't want to fight the taliban, which is unfortunate for you NOT true.

    Give a quote where he says the US should not fight the taliban.
    You put up THIS site or the site you said to check out
    Unless you are the administrator which I highly doubt you didn't put up THIS site.
    The truth sounds rude when put bluntly but still is the truth. nm
    !!!! hahaha
    Um...well Bi(n La)den..sheesh,
    just making an observation as many others will, I am sure.
    Sheesh!

    I can almost feel palpable hatred that Palin is so fond of inciting at her rallies.


    I guess time is getting short, everyone keeps saying Obama will win, they're becoming very angry and the venom is spewing.  Too bad they just can't stick to the issues and must resort to attacking posters instead of issues.  I guess that just shows the extent of their desperation. 


    Now, I don't know for sure if Obama will win.  I'm very hesitant about feeling too secure about that.  As long as there are the Karl Roves of the world and Diebold machines, anything can happen.


    Sheesh....is there
    anyone in D.C who pays taxes? 
    Again with the liar. Sheesh is right. NM

    You are kidding, right? Sheesh. NM

    Sheesh.....you are delusional.
    Pay attention here...Bill Clinton...liberal to the core...regime change in Iraq was hatched during HIS presidency. You can't deny that. Well, you can, but anyone who cares to check will see the truth of it. So...your last paragraph should be aimed at liberals. Apparently, regime change is a LIBERAL idea.

    John F. Kennedy...another liberal and incidentally as I have said on many occasions a man I admire...started getting involved in Viet Nam to "stop the spread of communism." FORCING western ideas on those folks. So I guess invading other countries to start democracies must be a LIBERAL idea.

    Your rationalizing aka just because they were enacted during a conservative government doesn't mean it was a conservative idea. That is a ridiculous statement. What it DOES mean is that conservatives cared enough about the idea, WHATEVER it was, to actually DO something about it other than TALK about it. Ideas are fine, ACTION is what counts.

    Look, for whatever reason and Lord only knows why, I am going to try this one more time. I consider myself an American. Not a conservative, not a liberal, not a libertarian, a Ron Paul supporter, polka-dotted or criss-crossed. I don't have any group, person, club, party who tells me what to believe. You can call me whatever you want to, pigeon hole me however you like, to suit your agenda. It is what you are good at. It makes absolutely no difference to me what you think of me or what group you want to put me in.

    As to justifying my beliefs? My dear, you are the one who keeps justifying, and I can show that every major change in this country from the start was enacted under what you call conservative, what I call deeply morally convicted people...and then YOU justify by saying doesn't matter if "conservatives" actually DID it, it was a LIBERAL idea.

    Geezzzz....whatever, piglet. If that is the case, thank you for the idea, and YOU'RE WELCOME for ACTUALLY ENACTING THEM.

    Sheesh. LOL. THE END.


    And you are in theposition to know all before it happens...sheesh...

    and the pubs KNEW EVERYTHING for these last eight years and did what was supposedly good for this country?.  One of many horrible things they did was push the average American worker out of the middle class while the fat cats got fatter, all the while thumbing their noses at us, not to mention the 'war' that never should have happened.   


    Sheesh - this is what your happy about?
    You love to see people in misery? You like to see people unhappy? And why because they are connected to a republican which many hold so much disdain for. You know if John Kerry, AL Gore, Bill Clinton were going through terrible times with their children no matter how much I dislike them I certainly wouldn't be so gleeful that their kids are going through this. And please spare me the "they were pawns or objects" because of so, so was Bidens kids, and you wouldn't be so gleeful about that.

    As for this guy going around to the TV shows, who doesn't now adays...especially when your offered a million dollars for your story or to appear on the air.

    There are more important things going on now - unemployment, housing crisis, financial crisis, war, and your gleeful that relatives of Sarah Palin are having personal difficulties.

    Shameful is what I call it.
    sheesh is right, sam, GIVE IT A REST!!!
    if we talked about the weather, you would turn it into an abortion topic.  If we talked about fashion, you would turn it into an abortion topic.  If we talked about sports, well, you get it.  And WE GET IT.  Give it a blanking rest.
    Sheesh. Well I am so glad you are happy....
    come to pick the bones with the rest of the crew? Well, bon appetit. LOL. geez.
    Of course you will. It's called spin. lol...sheesh.
    nm
    Sheesh! You have way too much time on your hands!

    Not failures...favors. Sheesh. lol nm
    nm
    Sheesh louise people.
    For the love of pete.....the fact that Obama wants to raise taxes on businesses and the fact that it won't keep jobs in American because it will be cheaper to take their business to other countries.....that isn't fox news tabloid.....that is common sense. 
    Whattabuncha nay-sayers. Sheesh.
    .
    Sheesh. Just asked a question.

    You said:


    "like a very bad itchy rash, or the smell of cow manure, he is EVERYWHERE, even to ignorant dems/independents who (OH MY GOD) get all the nes channels, C-SPAN, that the special Republicans can."


    You're all hyped up today. Calm down.  I wasn't sure what you were saying and took it to mean C-Span was a garbage channel..


    They are not murdering children - sheesh!!!!
    Whether you want to call it murder that is your opinion. Embryos are not children. This is not a living breathing human being that has a mind, nerves, emotions or anything. That's like saying to eat eggs your are murdering baby chickens. When a child is born and is a breathing living fully developed human child and it is born and after it breaths air, and is killed then yes that is murder. Disposing of an egg is not murder, and it is probably the best thing that could happen to someone who is forced into a world of hate, unlove, and unwantedness. I guess it doesn't bother you one bit to see these children suffer because they have been born into a life of despair. Do you get a warm fuzzy feeling to know that a child will be miserable and may even want to commit suicide because they were born into a world where they are unloved and unwanted.

    You really need to stop twisting reality into what you want to believe it is. Not every child is born into a loving family and people need to keep their nose out of where it doesn't belong.
    Sheesh! I messed up my own joke!

    I wrote:  I said, "Well, let's see:  "Algia" means pain.  "Ceph" means pain, so pain in the head -- HEADACHE!"


    Obviously, "ceph" means HEAD!


    I just got out of the hospital (again for pancreatitis), and I believe MY "ceph" was left behind when I was typing my post.


    Good thing I don't own a gun or I'd probably shoot myself in the foot.  LOL.


    NOT the same thing - sheesh! - see message
    How can you compare the two. I pay taxes as do the companies we work for.

    Tupperware reps pay taxes.

    Churches do not pay taxes.

    Unless churches plan to pay taxes they should not be holding business meetings in their homes.
    Liberal truth vs. Conservative truth.
    x
    Sheesh....Clinton didn't go to funerals either....
    and yes, soldiers died on his watch too (Somalia, Bosnia,etc). I did not see CNN covering flag-draped coffins then. Yes, more have died in Iraq; however, a soldier killed is a soldier killed. Clinton did not go to the funeral of that US serviceman who was killed and then his body dragged behind a Jeep in Somalia. Was that because Clinton felt guilty? Come on!! It is impossible for a President (ANY President) to show up at a private funeral without causing a media circus, and frankly, I would not want Bush there because along with him would come Cindy Sheehan, the pink ladies, the nutso religious group, the ones who hold up signs saying your son died for nothing, yada yada. Maybe THAT is why Bush does not go to funerals. Ya think???

    As to stopping the media...what planet to you live on? As if Bush could stop the liberal media from showing anything they want...ala CNN and their terrorist-made sniper video as the terrorists stalked our soldiers. Good grief, new guy!!! The liberal media doesn't give a rat's patootie about who they hurt as they strive to take Bush down....ya think???

    And frankly, new guy, do you think the public need to see a flag-draped coffin to know about the death toll in Iraq? I am surprised CNN has not installed a ticker to count them. Get a grip, get a clue, buy a vowel. You and other Bush haters like you just need to admit it. You hate the man, anything connected with the man, to the point that you criticize him for doing a wonderful thing by showing up at Virginia Tech. I think that shows a remarkable lack of human compassion on your part. Yeah...I THINK.
    I stand corrected - sheesh! who can you believe anymore
    I'm totally confused with everything going on now adays. I don't know truth from smears. You would think if someone is actually putting their name to something they would be telling the truth due to serious outcomes of false accusations.

    So how can we tell if something we hear on TV, radio or internet is true or not?

    Makes me just not want to vote anymore and turn off the TV and put my head in the sand and ignore all going on. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
    Drink another cup full of Kool-aid...sheesh. nm
    .
    Clinton...talk about a rewrite on history...sheesh....
    He was a waste of a good president. Ergo, he was an embarrassment, in more ways than one.


    Where do you want your break, anyway?
    Ever hear of TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT? sheesh you are limited
    nm
    Now that makes all kinds of sense. Sheesh. I am sure murders occur...
    where you live too. Are you a murderer? What a goofy post. I just happen to be one of those people who knew of Bill before he came to national fame. And I did not say he murdered anyone. All I said is that there are unexplained deaths. All you have to do is google. People should not post rumor and innuendo if they do not want it turned around and applied to their side.
    MSNBC doesn't encourage these witch hunts at all. Sheesh
    Convention III of the Geneva Convention has to do with treatment of Prisoners of War.

    Identifying who is to be classified as a POW is specifically called out in detail in Art 4 of Convention III.

    The AL Queda and Taliban rogues, and other ''terrorists'' DO NOT fall under the protections of Convention III, commonly referred to as Common Article III.
    No one is asking for anyone to get a pass...sm
    There is enough blame to go around, both dems and repubs, greed and dishonesty knows no party. The guilty should be held accountable, but that is not the immediate concern. Turning this around is so we all don't go down the tubes.
    I believe it will come to pass....sm
    The name for the NAU currency has already been chosen....the Amero.

    In addition to the EU and the NAU, there is also the Africa Union which was formed in 2002 and the soon-to-be Asian Union. These unions will eventually form into a one-world government with NATO as its governing body. There will be a single currency as well.

    I agree....sometimes I wish I were still blissfully ignorant of all the goings on in the world today, but then I would not be aware of what to watch for and how it would affect me and my family.
    Or if none of that comes to pass,
    hopefully you will come to realize that the repub fearmongers have been playing on you fears and you bought into it wholeheartedly.
    This, too, will come to pass............ sm
    but it won't be the religion that you are probably thinking it will be. Better be careful what you wish for.
    And why would we thank him when it took 217 votes for this to pass?
    nm
    I will pass your senitments on to those...
    I know who are serving. It will come as no surprise to them. At least you admit that you could care less if it hurts them or not...or worsens their plight or makes their jobs harder...which it does. I will tell them you are of the opinion they just need to pray the protesting works in their favor (and if you think a premature withdrawal, or cut and run, is in their favor that just proves you do not know the majority of the military and how they think), and they just need to suck it up and continue to fight and die to protect your right to tell them to suck it up and just keep on serving, if the war is something they believe strongly in. For you to say that the war is something they believe strongly in also proves that you know nothing about them. They are there because their country sent them there and they believe in the mission. George Bush alone did not send them, no matter how much global amnesia the Democrats want to try to have now. They believe in honor and duty. They believe in something bigger than themselves...they believe there are still things worth dying for...like your right to blythely from your warm safe home to tell them to suck it up, pray the protesting works for them and not against them, because it is more important for you to protest than it is for them to be safer. The least you could have done was a little thank you to go with the suck it up, though.

    I know what they will say...they will say *you're welcome...anyway.*

    Just a final thought...just WHO do you think cheers when they hear Americans in the street protesting? The ENEMY. Do you remember the scenes of Arabs taking to the streets in celebration when 9-11 happened? They watch us. Protesting in a public way is fodder for them to recruit. Read an article today saying they are using You Tube videos for recruitment. I bet several of the leading Democratic Pres contenders are stars. But if giving Al Qaeda little moral boosts is what floats the protestors' boats, by all means...grab the sign and head for the corner.

    and I too had to pass on this info

    http://share.triangle.com/node/13576


    The questions remain :


    What is Barack Husein Obama - a Senator from Illinois - doing when he is interacting with a violent rebel, muslim leader in Kenya who may have been responsible for the murder of dozens of innocent people burned to death simply because they took refuge in a church?


    What is Barack Husein Obama doing when he interferes in the internal operations of a foreign nation like Kenya?


    Are you going to let a well organized and well financed representative of a foreign government push his way any further into your national government?


    How many more people have to die before Americans come to understand that Barack Husein Obama is not a product of the land of Lincoln?


    Born in Hawaii he spent most of his life in the violent and backward nation of Indonesia – where not too long ago the Australians had to stop the Muslims from killing all the Christians in East Timor.



    When will this blood soaked travesty of our national political system come to an end? When will the mocking smirk of our enemies be wiped from our television screens?


    Change they want? With the gun? With the torch?


    pass the doobie

    It helps with appetite and is an analgesic.  Stay home and smoke it.  No harm  done. 


    I'm sure something WILL pass -- eventually. -sm
    It's just that this bill wasn't quite ready yet, and those voting on it today knew that.

    Remember the old TV commercial where the kid asks, 'Is it soup, yet?" And for the bailout, the answer is still 'No, it's not soup yet.'
    It'll pass just like it did in the 60s. n/m

    He wouldn't pass the
    security clearance for the secret service either for that matter.  Would he even pass the clearance to be a local police officer?
    If you agree with this pass it on. s/m

    I'm sending it to my Senator and Congressman too as well as to Obama.


    I was sent a newspaper clipping via e-mail, with a list of changes that, according to the actual author, most American people would very much like to see in our Government.

    The actual author is Norma White of Amarillo. She is a retired network engineer for Southwestern Bell. I do not know which newspaper it came from, but after reading it, I would vote for her if she ever ran for Congress. I wanted to share them with you all.


    The article's title is:

    You Want Change? Try These Ideas.

    1. Limit Congress from serving more than two terms. That is all that presidents are allowed.

    2. Stop Congress from voting for their own raises. How did that ever get started?

    3. Stop paying for lawmakers' high-priced insurance premiums. After all, they are only part-time employees. They might pass some law changes on the insurance companies, if they actually had to find one!

    4. Stop paying lawmakers, or the president, their full salary after serving just one term, or when they leave office. We need to get rid of that pension plan; they've let other companies get rid of theirs. You were lucky to get 40 to 50 percent of your salary after working somewhere for 35 years, but they get 100 percent.

    5. Make Congress pay into the Social Security system. They make laws for it. If they spent some of their own money, then they might be interested in making it solvent.

    6. Stop handing out aid to illegal aliens. If we did, then Medicaid and the food stamp program would have enough money to aid the aged and the poor.

    7. Secure our borders.

    8. Stop allowing babies born to illegal aliens in the United States automatic U.S. citizenship.

    9. Stop the abuse of our benevolent welfare system. We feed children free meals three times a day until they are 17. Churches give away good, clean clothes. Companies buy and donate school supplies. Emergency rooms provide health care at taxpayer expense and the food stamp program is buying food at home. What are parents doing for their children?

    10. Have a computer program that cross checks Social Security numbers with finger prints to stop fraud on many fronts. Use it on voter registration too.

    11. Stop bailing out mortgage companies and banks that give loans to people who cannot afford them.

    12. Stop companies from paying CEOs and other executives outrageous salaries and bonuses while doing away with workers' pensions.

    13. Stop all unnecessary spending so we will have the money for our nation's security, and to help needy and elderly Americans.

    14. Stop permitting anyone to have a photo with their face covered on driver's licenses.

    Unfortunately, no matter who won the presidency, they will not be able to make any of these changes.

    Only members of Congress can do that, as they are the lawmakers.

    I seriously doubt Congress is interested in changing anything, do you?


     


    Pass the crow, please.......sm

    After our rather heated debate tonight, I went off in search of answers to the questions of Obama's qualifications to be POTUS, and here is what I found. 


    The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.


    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"


    US Code Title 8,1401 states the following as a qualification of a natural-born US citizen.  (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html).  This is the only qualification that Obama actually passes to qualify to be POTUS, but one is all that is needed as all the qualifications listed are exclusive of each other. 

    (d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

    Since this does not specify a particular time frame in which the US citizen parent must live in the US prior to the birth of the child, it must be assumed that any one-year residency would satisfy the requirement. 

    Somehow crow for Thanksgiving dinner just isn't quite what I had in mind.  Please make sure it is well done with lots of BBQ sauce. 


     


    Most of the time I pass over it, but it is getting very old
    There could be a bunch of names I call the other side - Clinton News Network, MS No News here, etc (cant think of a proper acronym for the NBC in MSNBC right now cos it's late), but I'm just getting sick of the name calling. You don't like the news then don't watch the channel, but until you point out fault with the liberal stations then its time to lay off the others.
    Most of the time I pass over it, but it is getting very old
    Thanks - just is irritating hearing the name calling all the time, especially from people (not just the OP but others) who find no fault whatsoever with Olbermann, Matthews, Maddow and all the other liberal gab boxes (they are not even news casters, they only spew their opinion). There could be a bunch of names I call the other side - Clinton News Network, MS No News here, etc (cant think of a proper acronym for the NBC in MSNBC right now cos it's late), but I'm just getting sick of the name calling. You don't like the news then don't watch the channel, but until you point out fault with the liberal stations then its time to lay off the others.
    I'll pass on that one, thanks!

    This was meant to be a joke right? 


    Right...please pass the ganja this way...
    .
    Hey, I gave you a pass on

    'most of the people there was'.  Or was that intentional?  


    We don't usually rag on hurried typo errors because we have no spell check on this forum.  But not bothering to look up a spelling or making a rookie grammatical error are both noteworthy. 


    The truth, the whole truth and nothing but...It's probably the biggest...sm
    reason why I am voting democrat...they seem more honest than the the republicans and it looks like people are starting to get smart and *bailin' Palin*... We don't need to keep hearing her *greatest hits" version of her acceptance speech over and over and McSame's POW story...that was then, this is now...we need REAL change and we need it NOW. I don't need someone to push the red button, I need someone to fix the economy!