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This kind of stuff is tired. Good nite!

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-08-05
In Reply to: Look you idiot. SM - MT

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    I mean thank you periods (...) Good nite...

    Very NOT interesting, same old tired stuff. n/m
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    That's getting kind of tired.
    McCain is not Bush - that argument really needs to be put to rest. I know, you're going to come back with the fact that he voted with Bush 90% of the time, but that's really just a number. You have to look at what he voted with Bush on and how the rest of Congress voted on the same issues as well. I understand if you just don't want McCain for president, but judge him on who he is, not by the party he belongs to because that doesn't necessarily mean anything these days.
    Kind of tired of being repeatedly baited....sm
    by the hit squad. This is old news.


    You're doing just fine by yourself.




    Wow....that's good stuff....and he does explain it....sm
    very well, so that you can understand it.




    What kind of good solid argument is that?
    All I saw was a good article assessing the state of our emergency readiness and the conservative comes back with nyah nyah, a guy got shot, hope you're happy.

    Is that what anyone calls good solid argument?
    Being kind to other people feels good, too.
    Bigotry in the name of religion - Que lastima!
    We have good reason, kind of a knee jerk reaction. LOL.

    We're constantly visited by the *compassionate conservative* trolls from the other board who come here only to be spew hatred, personally attack posters and to generally cause trouble, despite constant requests from the monitor that they not do that. 


    I've always been in favor of stem cell research.  I believe in science progressing and helping people live longer.  I don't believe in forcing the personal religious beliefs of some down the throats of every American. 


    In all honesty, though, here lately it's hard for me to get excited if I see America making progress in any area because it doesn't matter what bill Congress introduces, votes in favor of and presents to the President.  Bush will dismiss what he doesn't like and issue yet another of hundreds of his famous *signing statements.*  I don't know why we even bother to have a Congress any more.  They've been rendered impotent by King George.


    http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/14976584.htm


    I apologize if you feel you were being treated negatively.  If you're someone who is legitimate and sincere about debate, then welcome to our board. 


    But if you're only here to start trouble, like most of the elephants in donkeys' clothing invading this board lately, then I'd prefer that you just go away.  I won't feed any more hatred because I'm just tired of it all.  I've climbed down to their level too many times in the last few months, the stench way down there is just terrible, and I no longer wish to engage in their kind of communication.


    What are your thoughts on the issues I've mentioned?  Please respond.  Thoughtful, intelligent debate, without the use of degrading personal insults, is very welcome here.


    Do I need some kind of motive to post what I thought was a good read..and your point is..
    xx
    Hey guys, who is going to the ballgame Friday nite?
    You all are in high school, right?
    This stuff again. I thought this OWG stuff went out in the mid 90's.
    There is much more to the world than your little conspiracy-laden corner of it. Besides, the ACLU fights these kinds of things tooth and nail. Thank Godess for the libbies.


    Really, is this the best stuff you can come up with over here? How about some

    I don't know why you say some of the mean stuff you say, so....
    who are you to determine who is a straight thinking person?  I think what he was getting as is simple.  It is a FACT, like it or not, that African-Americans make up a huge portion of our jail population, much more than their 13% representation in the population would expect.  Saying that a black person has a lower IQ because they are black is racist.  Stating a fact like 70% of black children are born to an unwed mother, while sad and startling, is simply a fact and not a racist comment.
    Since you take this stuff so seriously
    look at who is #2---but again, I guess the Google fairies have worked their magic in putting these people under the word miserable.

    so it's stuff everybody already gets anyway...
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    Same here. Cant take any more of this stuff on TV.
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    Actually new stuff, you just don't like to see it. n/m
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    I think BB get all this stuff from
    moveon.org or something.  Sounds a lot like that sort of thing. 
    Even if he did say that stuff...
    who cares?! Is Bush in the White House now? No! Whatever lame remarks Biden might have made to him when he was in the White House really don't matter any more. He's just trying to puff out his chest because he has nothing else to do since Obama is keeping him on such a tight leash.

    Unfortunately, like so many of the rest of our "leaders," you can't believe a thing that comes out of their mouths.
    LOL! Who comes up with this stuff??
    I have to forward this to my husband now; he loves a good joke!
    This stuff was not broadcast
     because anyone believes Bush is a groper or is worried that he has a potty mouth.  it was published and broadcast to show how inept he is out of his element - the ranch.
    bored with this stuff, onto something new
    Mother of Britney and Jamie Lynn Spears is out promoting new book. In a Newsweek article, she points out the hypocrisy of her daughter being criticized for being a pregnant teenager and she being called a bad mom, but Bristol Palin is commended for valuing life and her mom is made out to be a good mom.

    Not a fan of the Spears, but I thought she had a valid point.
    don't make stuff up. You don't know that, and neither do I...nm
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    Truly scary stuff
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fSe27iloU
    of course he would say that stuff - he was running against him! nm
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    More dumb stuff.
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    Interesting stuff...

    http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/elections/3723-mike-klonsky-obama-blogger.html


    Mike Klonsky has had a blog on Obama's official website for a few months now (His first article is from February)...

    Soooo who's Mike Klonsky?...



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    Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist. He is perhaps most famous for being National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society in 1968...

    ...On May 12, 1969, Klonsky and four other SDSers were arrested at the organization's Chicago national headquarters for assaulting a police officer, interfering with a firefighter, and inciting mob action[/b]. A prank call to a local police station said there had been a shooting at SDS' offices. When the police arrived, Klonsky and the others were convinced it was a ruse to gain access to SDS' offices.[1] Klonsky convinced the police everything was fine, when a second prank call brought local firefighters to the scene. When the police attempted to force entry to the offices, Klonsky and the others resisted. Convinced state repression of SDS was coming, Klonsky told a national television audience on CBS' "Face the Nation" that police repression of the New Left was being planned by the U.S. Department of Justice...

    ...At SDS' June 1969 national convention in Chicago, Klonsky played a major role in the dissolution of the organization. A group of 11 SDS national leaders—including Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, John Jacobs, Mark Rudd, Bill Ayers, Terry Robbins, and Howie Machtinger—had met in April and May of 1969 to craft a response to PL supporters within SDS. Their article, "You Don't Need A Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows," was published in New Left Notes on June 18, 1969, the day the convention opened. The "Weatherman" statement denounced imperialism and racism, and repudiated PL's claim that youth culture was bourgeois. The Weatherman statement called for revolutionary violence at home to stop imperialism, and the formation of collectives in major cities to support violence and stop factionalism.

    Maybe you'd like to see a little more from our Weatherman friend?...



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    In late 1969, Klonsky founded the October League, a communist party which in 1977 became the Communist Party, Marxist-Leninist. He was elected the party's chairman. The group opposed Gay Liberation and supported the regime of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran. Klonsky made several trips to China beginning in July 1977, where he was warmly received by government and Communist Party of China officials and treated to state dinners.

    Now either you believe that Obama complicitly allows this thing to happen on his blogs because of his association or you believe that their campaign site is run by such ignorant people that they unknowingly and freely let anyone who feels like blogging get their own page..."

    Of course, you could easily say "maybe Obama doesn't know anything about this loon and doesn't want anything to do with him!"...

    tsk, tsk, tsk...Not so easy, my compadres...read on...



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    In 1991, Klonsky co-founded the Small Schools Workshop in Chicago

    Co-founded?...

    Wonder who co-founded it with him?...



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    William Ayers, Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), and founder of both the Small Schools Workshop and the Center for Youth and Society, teaches courses in interpretive and qualitative research, urban school change, and teaching and the modern predicament.

    Okaaaaayy...

    So what does this have to do with Barack Obama?...

    Well let's look at the grant support for this workshop...



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    GRANT SUPPORT

    Grants obtained for the support of the Small Schools Workshop and/or the Chicago Forum for School Change at the University of Illinois at Chicago, co-director, principal investigator.

    Annenberg Challenge -1997 - 260,000
    Annenberg Challenge?...What's that?...

    "

    Hmmm....wonder who the chairman of the Annenberg Challenge was in 1997....



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    Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999
    There you have it folks...

    Mike Klonsky - Communist leader...and along with Bill Ayers, promoter of American terrorism, created a school workshop that received a grant from the Annenberg Challenge, the Chicago branch created by Bill Ayers and had Barack Obama as president and chairman, and now Klonsky gets his own little blog on Obama's offical website...

    But you're not supposed to believe in "guilt by association", eh?..."

    Let's look back at what Obama said about Bill Ayers...



    Quote:




    At the debate, Obama said of Ayers: “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense.”
    When Bill Ayers started the Annenberg Challenge and YOU became the founding president and chairman of it, you weren't 8 years old dummy...


    Thanks - it too me a lot of deletions and stuff
    I didn't want to offend anyone because I believe we all have rights as human beings to believe whatever we want to believe - I have a mormon sister (who grew up with me in a methodist church) and she keeps pouring on me how her religion is right and anyone who is not mormon will not be on the "higher level" after we depart and then it will be too late. HA HA HA But then again I have an aunt who feels that because we are not in the charismatic movement we are heathens. HA HA HA. Sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at it.

    That's too funny about the guy telling God to get his act together. God's probably up there saying "who died and made you boss". HA HA
    Believe it or not some of us 'uns still eat that stuff
    which is why we won't go hungry.  'Course ya gotta be a Hill William (classier version of Hill Billy) to appreciate them thar vittles. LOL
    I think he has his stuff altogether, and if I were you
    would not worry 1 second about his getting the big head. There have been others before him (say Kennedy that I remember well before he took office and while in office) and the same thing you are seeing, the adoring audiences, etc. were very apparent then also. Obama has a lot of sense going for him- nah, would not lose any sleep on such a trivial issue. The country is so glad to be rid of Bush that people are tremendously overjoyed about this new fresh face. I think he will be a tremendous president.
    This is scary stuff.
    I'm totally out of the loop on this one. When did this come about? I'd like to read up more about this.
    funny stuff
    "Well who wouldn't want to teabag John McCain?"

    OMG I just totally lost it when I heard that! ROFLMAO !
    Granted, noone wants to see stuff like that, but...(sm)
    these people are not strangers to violence and humiliation (including the civilian population).  They also saw what their own countries have done to prisoners (again including their own civilian population), which, as has been pointed out numerous times on this board, is just as bad, and probably worse.  I think that has to play a role in it.  We're talking about a different culture with different views of punishment and "rules of war."
    As we are tired of YOU!
    Why can't you comply with the moderator's request not to bash posts here? If we are so offensive do you, why do you come here other than to stir up trouble?


    Tired MT=SAM
    sssss
    I have been dog-tired and still know how
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    Exactly....... I am so tired of it.
    xx
    Maybe she got tired of trying to have
    After reading posts like Palin says kill all polar bears and McCain diverted money from campaign funds to support the KKK it makes you wonder if there is any intelligent discussion left here.

    I miss Sam too.

    I'm Tired...
    I’m Tired

    Robert A. Hall

    I’ll be 63 soon. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce, and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting every day, I’ve worked, hard, since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven’t called in sick in seven or eight years.. I make a good salary, but I didn’t inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there’s no retirement in sight, and I’m tired. Very tired.

    I’m tired of being told that I have to “spread the wealth around” to people who don’t have my work ethic. I’m tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy or stupid to earn it.

    I’m tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to “keep people in their homes.” Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick, I’m willing to help. But if they bought McMansions at three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my salary, then let the leftwing Congresscritters who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act that created the bubble help them—with their own money.

    I’m tired of being told how bad America is by leftwing millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities America offers. In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have the religious freedom and women’s rights of Saudi Arabia, the economy of Zimbabwe, the freedom of the press of China, the crime and violence of Mexico, the tolerance for Gay people of Iran, and the freedom of speech of Venezuela. Won’t multiculturalism be beautiful?

    I’m tired of being told that Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family “honor;” of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren’t “believers;” of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for “adultery;” of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur’an and Shari’a law tells them to.

    I believe “a man should be judged by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin.” I’m tired of being told that “race doesn’t matter” in the post-racial world of President Obama, when it’s all that matters in affirmative action jobs, lower college admission and graduation standards for minorities (harming them the most), government contract set-asides, tolerance for the ghetto culture of violence and fatherless children that hurts minorities more than anyone, and in the appointment of US Senators from Illinois. I think it’s very cool that we have a black president and that a black child is doing her homework at the desk where Lincoln wrote the emancipation proclamation. I just wish the black president was Condi Rice, or someone who believes more in freedom and the individual and less in an all-knowing government.

    I’m tired of a news media that thinks Bush’s fundraising and inaugural expenses were obscene, but that think Obama’s, at triple the cost, were wonderful. That thinks Bush exercising daily was a waste of presidential time, but Obama exercising is a great example for the public to control weight and stress, that picked over every line of Bush’s military records, but never demanded that Kerry release his, that slammed Palin with two years as governor for being too inexperienced for VP, but touted Obama with three years as senator as potentially the best president ever.

    Wonder why people are dropping their subscriptions or switching to Fox News? Get a clue. I didn’t vote for Bush in 2000, but the media and Kerry drove me to his camp in 2004.

    I’m tired of being told that out of “tolerance for other cultures” we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and madrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America, while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.

    I’m tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five miles to our jobs. We also own a three-bedroom condo where our daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about 5% of AL Gore’s, and if you’re greener than Gore, you’re green enough.

    I’m tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I don’t think Gay people choose to be Gay, but I dam sure think druggies chose to take drugs. And I’m tired of harassment from cool people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried marijuana.

    I’m tired of illegal aliens being called “undocumented workers,” especially the ones who aren’t working, but are living on welfare or crime.. What’s next? Calling drug dealers, “Undocumented Pharmacists”? And, no, I’m not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic and it’s been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill me for my religion. I’m willing to fast track for citizenship any Hispanic person who can speak English, doesn’t have a criminal record and who is self-supporting without family on welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our military. Those are the citizens we need..

    I’m tired of latte liberals and journalists, who would never wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their entitlement-handicapped kids near a recruiting station, trashing our military. They and their kids can sit at home, never having to make split-second decisions under life and death circumstances, and bad mouth better people then themselves. Do bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our troops sometimes misbehave? Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that were the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years—and still are? Not even close. So here’s the deal. I’ll let myself be subjected to all the humiliation and abuse that was heaped on terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, and the critics can let themselves be subject to captivity by the Muslims who tortured and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who tortured and murdered Marine Lt.. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, or the Muslims who ran the blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, or the Muslims who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia, because the girls were Christian.. Then we’ll compare notes. British and American soldiers are the only troops in history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of hiding from in fear.

    I’m tired of people telling me that their party has a corner on virtue and the other party has a corner on corruption. Read the papers—bums are bi-partisan. And I’m tired of people telling me we need bi-partisanship.. I live in Illinois, where the “Illinois Combine” of Democrats and Republicans has worked together harmoniously to loot the public for years. And I notice that the tax cheats in Obama’s cabinet are bi-partisan as well.

    I’m tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I’m tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.

    Speaking of poor, I’m tired of hearing people with air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The majority of Americans didn’t have that in 1970, but we didn’t know we were “poor.” The poverty pimps have to keep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.

    I’m real tired of people who don’t take responsibility for their lives and actions. I’m tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination, or big-whatever for their problems.

    Yes, I’m dam tired. But I’m also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I’m not going to get to see the world these people are making. I’m just sorry for my granddaughter.

    Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts state senate.

    The 259 is the cheap stuff, what I use most times.
    I saw on the news the other night threats from the president not to ship oil to the US, I didn't catch the reason. And this could further raise prices.

    I don't even want to think about the heating bill this winter.
    They are anal about typos and stuff, Rep. sm
    It messes up their notebooks.  When challenged they have two strategies:  Call you a liar or say you aren't worth their time to argue with. Pretty consistent and predictable. 
    Wow. This is pretty scary stuff.
    Guess there aren't too many logical conclusions that can be drawn from it other than the obvious.  :-(
    I read all that hot air, digg stuff
    of whatever Brunson posts. What are you afraid of.
    And stuff the pockets of the weathiest
    Slash and burn. It's what they do.
    As will the stuff that piles up on the other side....
    when the debates start. We'll see how it all plays out, and how all of America perceives it, not just we on this board. That will tell the tale. Yes, she did say he was the man she admires most in the world. If I recall, as a young man, Obama snorted cocaine and drank heavily, by his own admission. Michelle still loves him. In my mind, both of these things are in the past, in their youth, and nonissues.
    Please stop smoking that stuff...
    it is interfering with your cognitive ability to THINK. This crock has been refuted A LONG TIME AGO. Please get with the program.
    Pretty ugly stuff for someone . . .
    who is so fond of mudslinging!!  He is a desperate man who would rather incite hate mongering than address the real issues at hand!!
    This stuff has happened at both rallies, just not
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    The stuff from China may be cheap
    But it's junk! When I got married, I got an electric can-opener as a gift. (We're talking way back in the dark ages...the 70s). Anyway, it lasted almost 20 years til it quit and I had to replace it. Guess how long it's replacement lasted? Less than a year. Ditto my other appliances. Sure it's cheap, but you get what you pay for.

    Add to that the recalls caused by the poisons in pet food and baby formula, all the leaded paint scares from Chinese toys....

    We're better off without them. Buy American! You might pay more, but the stuff lasts longer and you're helping to keep our people working.

    You ar right, Kaydie. How can people SEE this stuff
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    The stuff in that article has been refuted...
    and so far as I know has not been endorsed by known communists and terrorist organizations (Sal Alinsky's son and Hamas). In the questionable associates column, Obama is way ahead in "tics." Just being honest here.