This proves only 2 things.
Posted By: PK on 2005-12-30
In Reply to: Just to prove my point, from Crooks and Liars website. sm - CeeCee
First, that Scarborough can criticize Bush, as well as compliment him. He can do both, unlike you. If he sees something wrong, he has the courage to say it; however, he is still a conservative and he still supports Bush. As I said before, he just doesn't *blindly* support him, and he has the ability to be objective.
The second thing it proves is the CON method of doing things is to silence and disparage those who have the audacity to exert their (so far) constitutionally protected right to freedom of speech.
Scarborough is a respectable man. He loves America and he respects the Constitution. Unlike your *God Bush,* who thinks the Constitution is only a *piece of paper.* The fact that you so aggressively defend someone so obviously devoid of morals and ethics tells me way more than I want to know about you. People like you give me the heebie-jeebies, and I'd just rather associate myself with your kind of people, so I won't be responding to you any more.
You really do belong on the CON board, you know. Your nastiness and constant harassment of people on this board is getting old, is incredibly distasteful and just might wind up being brought to the moderator's attention if it continues.
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Pulling things out of context when people can go read the whole thread proves nothing...
when someone says something posted from a court document with all the references in place is a lie simply because it was reprinted on a conservative website cares nothing about the truth. I said it and I meant it. That is not calling that person a liar. Stop twisting things to your advantage. Not all the liberals on this board play that game. Only a few of you do. Won't debate an issue, just say it is from a right wing rag (even if it is the original court document) and will absolutely not look at both sides of an issue. And based on what I have read about liberalism and what liberals posted on this very board in response to my question...that is the antithesis of true liberal behavior. So there are some of you who do not agree with the tactics either. So please...stop with the attacks. Does not look good on you.
typo - meant cite things as hoax, not "site" things
Just thought I'd correct that before I get pummeled by the people who want to believe snopes is a truthful organization.
This actually proves that...
global warming is a naturally occurring event. Not manmade. No greenhouse effect by man.
You helped my point, in a roundabout way. Thanks!
By the way, your first link didn't bring up anything but someone's nightly news blog on MSNBC. Was there something important on there you wanted us to see?
This proves it
These posters are paid political trolls. I knew they would think up something else. This post is absolutely laughable, asking MTs to come up with $50,000 to $60,000 for such a ridiculous cause so they can become heroes" ....baaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha
I think most MTs these days are more concerned with having enough work to pay the light bill and buy groceries.
Hardly? Proves it every day, many more to come.
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This just proves my point.
We are still talking about the MJF ad and I never even heard anything about Ben Affleck which just proves that his voice does not reach quite as many people as Rush does. If I had heard what he said I would condemn that as well. I really really do not think there is ever an occasion when it is all right to malign the disabled.
No, joke is on you and proves you do NOT
The writers of the constitution DID NOT have electoral college. It was not written into law until the 1800s it is called "college of electors" and even then, it did not work because they had to amend AGAIN because political parties emerged, which showed electoral college did not work.
When the constitution is spoke of, it should mean as our founding fathers meant it. I say again, it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Just proves one thing. s/m
Republicans are carrying on their family tradition, Democrats do the same thing. WHEN will Americans wake up and realize that neither party is what it was for your parents and grandparents? I had a similar discussion this very morning with my son. He doesn't like McCain but he is voting for him. I changed the subject. At least I taught him to think for himself.
Well, it proves that Obama isn't ...
...a terrorist, as he's been ridiculously accused of being.
I'm still worried about Bush finding a reason to declare martial law and creating a dictatorship before Obama takes the oath of office, and I wonder if a terror attack would assist in that endeavor. 
this proves my earlier
post about the popularity of Fox News and the country being a majority of dullards. Not enough information to understand the debates on Meet The Press or other actual news programs, so watch 2 clowns argue. When finished, turn on the wrasslin' channel.
You got it! Obama proves more and more
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Your response proves that you obviously , , ,
didn't REALLY listen to his Cairo speech. First of all, he was not "heaping scorn" on the US. He had FIRM words for all parties involved, including us. After all, the US bears just as much culpability as anyone else and an admission to mistakes in the past is long overdue. ALL PEOPLE want respect and, sorry to disagree strongly with you, but the last administration showed anything but respect to these people. Maybe you should go back and really listen to the WHOLE speech, since it is obvious that you only heard the sound bites taken out of context that Fox News chose to play. Your words sound like they came straight from Hannity's ignorant mouth.
History proves that I am right, you can only
cite the Bible.
Bush proves how far removed he is
Rep George Miller
Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse, President Bush proved once again just how far removed he and his Administration are from the life experiences of most Americans. The President issued an executive order on Thursday that makes it possible for federal contractors to pay extremely low wages to workers hired for the Gulf Coast rebuilding. Bush accomplished this by suspending the 1931 Davis-Bacon law, which says that federal contractors must pay their workers a “prevailing wage” on construction projects.
Contrary to the misinformation coming from the right wing – that prevailing wages are actually high “union wages,” as John Fund wrote on The Huffington Post last week – the truth is that the prevailing wage is just the average wage for a specific job function in a local area. In parts of the Gulf Coast, these wages for construction workers can be low – even as low as $7, $8, or $9 an hour.
Deep poverty is a major part of the story of Hurricane Katrina, as is now plain for all of us to see. How are New Orleanians and other people in the region supposed to get back on their feet if they can’t even make $7 an hour? Hundreds of thousands of people have just lost everything they had. America has to put Gulf Coast workers back to work – and at wages that can help them and their families get back on their feet. Davis-Bacon guarantees a wage floor when they get back to work. If the President wants to help storm victims he should rescind his executive order immediately.
Well these posts proves one thing.
Incredible. But hey, this is truly the left exposed. You don't care about the troops at all. IT's all about politics. Pathetic losers.
Yes, that was very Coulter of you and proves just who the fool really is.
Not the least bit surprised that you're a Coulter groupie, though. I will pray for your sad, sad soul.
Which proves to me it is all about hating Bush and...
very little about *peace.* Sigh.
Still proves Biden will cheat...
When a person won't pony up the money that he owes, that is not paying your debt. He was trying to cheat the company out of a huge payment. He is capable of cheating when it comes to money, why in heck would I want him to have any say about the taxpayers' money? These kind of things say A LOT ABOUT A MAN and his ethics or lack thereof !!!!
exception proves the rule
do that phase strike a familiar note?
Oh my...another Obama fan proves their intelligence
or lack thereof. How sad.
Well, thanks for the compliment -- just proves what i think about people like u
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This pretty much proves the fact that
this and your hatred for this administration and have been for 8 years. Why did you never give try to give them a chance when they first took office and yet insist on doing so for the Obama administration? Strictly because of the conservative versus liberal views!
This pretty much proves the fact that
this and your hatred for this administration and have been for 8 years. Why did you never give try to give them a chance when they first took office and yet insist on doing so for the Obama administration? Strictly because of the conservative versus liberal views! You will never know what you are missing out of life.
I will have respect for Obama once he proves
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Which apparently proves you can be wrong.
Maybe you're just as wrong about Obama, as well.
Either way, the article below shows that this is really a non-story. Nobody seems to be listening to Bush any more. He couldn't even get enough reporters to fill the seats for his final press conference, so he had to fill the empty seats with people who weren't even reporters, just to make it look like he had a full room (perhaps his final attempt to deceive Americans).
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/CBS_Obama_appears_to_have_skipped_0116.html
If you did not understand it, that proves my point......nm
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It proves the extent of the torture that was used...(sm)
as well as shows the public exactly what the last admin did. It puts in front of the public (in particular republicans who would be against prosecuting the Bush admin) the facts. I honestly think the main point of showing pics is to gain public support for the prosecution of the last admin. I think dems are kind of fighting the battle before it gets there to make prosecution easier......but that's just my opinion.
Proves you don't read anything..Says in the 1st sentence he is Gov. Lynch of
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Taking a look at the data proves your points...sm
From 2000 - 2004, America has seen a significant increase in poverty each year.
I agree with sm that people must have personal responsibility and not sit around waiting on a check when they are able bodied and can work. These are not the poor that I'm concerned with. I speak of the poor single mother or father who works 2 jobs, the poor mother and father who both work and still can't make ends meet. Heck, you can still just be getting by with a college education in today's economy. Look at inflation. In just ONE year gas prices have doubled. And look at the housing market. Prices of other necesities are also rising and the mean income is still 40,000.
I agree with Zauber, everyone can't be on the top, some people have to settle for lower paying jobs due to life circumstances. But if the big business had it their way, they would still be paying 4.25 an hour. They griped about going to 5.15 an hour.
Do you think this administration will even attempt to increase min. wage? They think and obviously believe Rush Limmy when he says, only teenagers who are working for extra money to buy Ipods are working min. wage jobs. They are out of touch.
Not having a good father in the household is one of the root cause issues that needs to be addressed, but I wouldn't be so quick to put this as the main or only cause of poverty. There's no one answer to the problem, but I do hold our local, state, and federal government responsible to do their part - make sure employers pay a fair wage and have fair labor practices, control inflation, and education.
That sign is disgusting. I guess it just proves...
that is another right that soldiers die for: for the right to be stupid and thoughtless and devoid of common courtesy.
Obama's Chicago thugs, one after another, proves
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Read his letter. That pretty much proves it.
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All this proves is that liberals pick and choose...
freedom of religion? Like ANY of you ascribe to that? Lemme seee----go back to your church. Ummm...bible-thumpin gun moll...I would have to search, but you get my drift. Yes, i know what choice is. Me, and some like me, also believe the infant should have a choice, but you certainly jumped right in and circumvented that one didn't you?
This proves that Phil Berg is a hardhead who
twice failed legal action. So you still have presented nothing that back up your claim that this is still on the docket. By the way, ever heard of frivolous lawsuits. They are not confined to medical malpractice, dontcha know?
every grunt you make just proves my point.
This is absolutely hopeless.
Check this out. Proves how well W. "ducks the issues"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duLds-TZMGw
Hilarious!!
I read about her yesterday. Obama proves again
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Thjis proves exactly Kaydie's father's philosophy...nm
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Yes, Obama the great uniter!..proves all the time
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gee, I thought conservatives were supposed to post on their own board.....proves all you want sm
to do is fight with someone. What possible reason could you have for being over here? Obviously you are not creating dialogue or trading ideas....the only reason is to start something and then here come the insults. Guidelines posted when they started these boards were to post on your own board.
I do notice that conservatives post more on that board, but instead of discussing opinions and ideas and their reasons for them, all they do is bash the left.
Oh I can always tell when things are going your way
the diatribes ensue.
How do you get away with saying things like that exactly?
Two things:
1: His approval rating as I write this has now decreased to 29%. (However, by the time you read this, it may be even lower yet. He is most definitely *a work in progress,* and the number of Americans who are waking up and smelling the proverbial coffee is increasing at a rapid rate.
2. The fact that the government has been tracking phone calls of hundreds of millions of Americans may be nothing more than a political *parking ticket* compared to what we might discover next week.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/12/19380/1332
NSA Whistleblower: There's More, People Are Going To Be Shocked
Fri May 12, 2006 at 04:38:00 PM PDT
From the subscription-only Congress Daily, Chris Strohm reports that NSA whistleblower Russell Tice will make some on bombshell revelations on Capitol Hill next week:
A former intelligence officer for the National Security Agency said Thursday he plans to tell Senate staffers next week that unlawful activity occurred at the agency under the supervision of Gen. Michael Hayden beyond what has been publicly reported, while hinting that it might have involved the illegal use of space-based satellites and systems to spy on U.S. citizens. Russell Tice, who worked on what are known as special access programs, has wanted to meet in a closed session with members of Congress and their staff since President Bush announced in December that he had secretly authorized the NSA to eavesdrop on U.S. citizens without a court order. In an interview late Thursday, Tice said the Senate Armed Services Committee finally asked him to meet next week in a secure facility on Capitol Hill.
Tice was fired from the NSA last May. He said he plans to tell the committee staffers the NSA conducted illegal and unconstitutional surveillance of U.S. citizens while he was there with the knowledge of Hayden, who has been nominated to become director of the CIA. Tice said one of his co-workers personally informed Hayden that illegal and unconstitutional activity was occurring. [...] I think the people I talk to next week are going to be shocked when I tell them what I have to tell them. It's pretty hard to believe, Tice said. I hope that they¹ll clean up the abuses and have some oversight into these programs, which doesn't exist right now. [...]
Tice said his information is different from the Terrorist Surveillance Program that Bush acknowledged in December and from news accounts this week that the NSA has been secretly collecting phone call records of millions of Americans. It's an angle that you haven't heard about yet, he said.
what 2 things
In the last paragraph of your post Re: The Other Side of Mel Gibson, you state,
There's two things that booze does. You omitted the second thing. What, in your opinion, is the second thing that booze does?
I get it. You really do think all those things....
just in poor taste to post them. We are on the same page now.
I believe three things
1. My eyes watching Scooter's conviction.. 2. Valerie Plame, the person who knows her situation best. 3. Patrick Fitzgerald. Now there's a guy with a high IQ that was not manufactured by professional fact fixers.
Two things....
Obama has already said he was going to put a windfall profits tax against the oil companies...money earned by one person...and divvy it out in $1000 whacks to people who did nothing to earn it. That is redistribution of wealth and that is Marxist. He already said he was going to do it. Government run health care is socialism.
Second question...how is he going to pay for all that stuff you have listed there? Tax oil companies more? What do you think that will do to gas prices?
Just wondering.
What are those things
Can someone explain what those things are outside the RNC. I understand wanting to protest and you hold a sign up showing your viewpoint and maybe you yell out something you believe in, but I can't understant what those things are that are wearing masks, being dragged away, having to be hosed down by the police.
What a nonsense and insane world they must live in. I'm all for freedom speech, but this is beyond my understanding.
Also - don't they have jobs? Do their employers allow them to take time off work to go do this and get arrested? I want that job. HA HA
A few things I would add...
This reply is picking up at the point after the main context regarding religion, which was addressed now under 2 separate posts.
The comments regarding basic human kindness. Is that a one-way street? What part of the Black Liberation Theology campaign which, if I recall corectly, you championed most vocally and most repetitively was not about race, politics or religion? If it's not two-way, it's a dead end. Perhaps leading by example would be a first step in the right direction.
With regard to welform, it is comforting to know that both candidates and both parties are on agreement and promote programs that tie welfare, jobs and training together. In terms of expecting welfare recipients to climb out of the "lower bracket," it is curious that you would hold them to an entirely different standard than you would the entire middle class, which again, if memory serves me, you claimed in a previous post in defense of tax cuts to the wealthy, fell into that same "lower bracket." To bankroll welfare that would raise the middle classes out of the "lower bracket" would most certainly appear socialist, and of course, we can't have any of that.
I am not aware of any candidate who seeks to "stifle" American ingenuity. Please enlighten us on that one. Are you referring to tax increases on individual incomes in excess of $250,000 or the proposals that would remove tax loopholes for large corporations? I am confused as to how that would "stifle" them. Our candidates seem to be in agreement on the need for government accountability and fiscal responsibility. Not soo sure how McCain proposes to go about it, but O has outlined his fiscal policies nicely here http://www.barackobama.com/issues/fiscal/ and has detailed him in his Blueprint for Change here http://origin.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf.
That unity Americans supposedly shared in the aftermath of 9/11 is what some people would characterize as shellshock after an act of war on our own soil. Seems that the present administrations's response to that attack over these past 8 years is exactly why the nation is so divided now. That shared experience is not something that can be taken back. One thing is for sure. The politics of fear that worked so well for them is not really working that well anymore, so there is no "going back;" there is only going forward from here.
Not quite sure what the prayer statement is trying to say, especially in the context of discrimination (?) against Christians. God is on the currency, but Jesus is not. If you are referring to prayer in school or any other public gathering, I'm afraid that could get pretty messy. Nothing against prayer or praying, but this being a country where all are free to practice their religion, then public places would need to have a prayer room and rug to accommodate the Moslem practice of call to prayer, meditation rooms for the Eastern faiths and the like. In assemblies led by Christian prayer, it probably would need to be followed by a prayers or readings from The Torah, The Holy Kitab, The Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, The Avesta, The Confucian Analects, The Doctrin of the Mean, The Holy Mencius, The Great Learning, The Holy Quran, The Hadith, The Holy Akaranja Sutra, The Holy Kalpa Sutra, The Holy Kojiki, The Holy Nihongi, The Holy Tao Te Ching, The Holy Chuang Tzu, The 4 Vedas, The Upanishads, the 18 Puranas, the Bhagavid Gita…see what I mean? Kinda messy. There is a reason our forefathers had the insight to provide for the PRIVATE practice of religion.
On the abortion issue. This is easy. All people do have their say. That's why we have choice. Free to exercise the choice to have or NOT to have an abortion. To remove choice is anything but free. So you want quality, affordable, portable health care for all, lower costs, etc. Here's a plan you might consider. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
Thank you for saying things that I have
been trying to say. Thank you for standing up for Jesus. Thank you for not being afraid to say how you feel. I, too, am a born-again believer and I am terribly burdened by what I have read on this board. I am shocked that so many of my co-workers do not believe in prayer, or even in God. I guess this is something I have always just taken for granted. Once again, thank you for your courage.
One thing we can do, as believers, we can pray for wisdom in making our decisions who we will vote for in this election. Also, whoever is elected, we can lift them up daily for strength and wisdom and God's will in the decisions they make for our great country!
If you don't like things the way they are NOW, and you
most definitely that you were intellectually challenged.
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