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This site.

Posted By: VH on 2005-09-16
In Reply to: You put up THIS site or the site you said to check out - Reality check

When I said this site, I meant the site to the link I originally put up not the LIBERAL board.  Of course I am not the administrator.  Geeze get a life, you dissect and pick apart anything that is posted here.


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You put up THIS site or the site you said to check out
Unless you are the administrator which I highly doubt you didn't put up THIS site.
On that particular web site, yes, I would

 sign what they asked me to sign which was a thank you to Harry Taylor for saying what so many of us feel and have felt for the last 5-1/2 years. I am willing to sign any petition that decries this administration and its horrendous policies. I know all about Not In Our Name but thanks for your article. 


I was proud that I stood up for what I believed during in the 70s and that I continue to walk my talk to this day.  Being arrested just proved that I was willing to do whatever it took to be heard and I would do it again today. I have the courage of my convictions and I am proud of that.


You question my causes...what does that mean?? You don't like the organizations I support and you just felt the need to share that with me...


Also, the state of our union is beyond party politics; we are so far beyond  differences in ideologies; I am not following any party line in saying that I would sign a petition. I am following my conscience and my gut and history, not the Democratic party.


 


I was just on her site. There is nothing there about it. sm
I think most of us are waiting to hear from Bruce himself. I don't trust any of the other sources.
I came across this site while

looking for more information on this whole situation.


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52545


I have never seen nor heard of this web site  but it explains a little more about what happened. It is confusing. The assistant DA said it violates the 4th amendment to shoot someone you don't know, don't know what he is doing, is unarmed and running away. At first I thought, well that makes sense; that's the law but then it doesn't make sense because this was not a case on Law and Order with cops making mistakes carrying out the arrest of American citizens, no matter how despicable their crimes. This was the border patrol doing their jobs, umm, patrolling the border and the person in question is not an American citizen. I am not, as you may suspect, as hard on the immigrants as some are. I don't know what the answer is. This country is not big enough for everyone to live here, yet when I see starving, poverty-beyond-belief kids living in the sewer systems in Brazil and Mexico and being killed periodically by the police because they (the police) have no answers either. It is almost like euthanizing pets at the humane shelter. They just don't know what else to do, the kids are starving, learning how to survive on the street which means more and more crime...its heartbreaking to me anyway. But that has nothing to do with this. I think these guys got a raw deal, not sure why but 12 and 11 years is way out of line. 


Site
I just copied and pasted it and it came right up.
Take a look at this site.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html


It shows the amount of money in a 20-year period and BO has gotten a helluva lot more money in a 4 year period than McCain has in 20 years. 


I have seen that site before, however
it only lists contributions from individuals and PACs. Directors, officers, and lobbyists are not included in that chart. I am not denying Obama took money. My point is look at all the numbers, not just a select few. I think the TOTAL amount of contributions is important.

I am not so blinded by either candidate that I am going to defend them no matter what.
Thanks for that site -- both of my

senators voted in favor.  Hoping my rep will see it definitely. 


Not sure which site she was at - sm
I just went to his web site. There is a short video of him talking about things being hard the past 8 years, he goes on to say we need a new direction and he has a plan. He says "your savings? We'll rebuild them. Your investments? They'll grow again. Energy? We'll drill here and we'll create a renewable energy economy. Lower taxes and less spending will protect your job and create new ones. That will restore our country. Stand up with me, let's fight for America. I'm John McCain and I approved this message".

That's a positive message to me and I don't see any negativity. Nothing about Obama on the site.

Then to the side there's buttons that lead to differnet things to view on his site (his job plan, healthcare plan, and taxes). I'm looking all over the site for something negative and can't find anything. Are you sure she went to the right site. I'll post a link below. I'd hate her to get a false message.

As for his family and such. I would rather read about his plans for America and what he's going to do for America. I need facts about the candidates. I wish your daughter best of luck with her project. It's great when kids get involved with politics. Here is the site your daughter should go to. It's the official McCain website and it's quite positive.

http://www.johnmccain.com/landing/
This site might help. (sm)
http://www.howstuffworks.com/electoral-college.htm
Another Site
This one breaks it down with exactly how much money is going where.

http://www.propublica.org/special/the-stimulus-plan-a-detailed-list-of-spending
It is not the DHS site.
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It SHOULD be on the DHS site.......ya know,
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Here's another site where you can

register your vote, see percentages of how the rest of the country is voting on it, and check candidates' voting records on bills.  You can get a synopsis of the text of bills (yeah, I know, lots of luck with 1200 pages.) 


http://www.thepeopledecide.us/index.php


Quote from this site. sm

“heatherb” a Soldier from OK, submitted 9-6-04:


“You cannot tell me that we are not doing the right thing when you watch little kids run, literally run from their one room mud hut a mile away from the road come running as your convoy is passing just to wave, not to beg for food or water, just to wave. Or to be a woman and invited to sit amoung the Iraqi men and share their Chai with them and listen as they share their stories of the days when their country was oppressed. To have shared such time with the people of tha t country and to have learned about their culture and that they are such a powerful proud people. And to know that I was a part of liberating that, makes me proud to have gone over there to give those kids that run up to us all those times the chance to never have tell the stories that the men sharing tea told, but listen to them as I did. We are doing the right thing regardless of the disillusion of our politicians. Be proud of what you've done. I am."


God Bless them.


Credible site


What I would tend NOT to believe is government figures as to how many are out there.  I know for a fact that a friend of mine in 2000 received $2,000 per month from the VA, in addition to Social Security benefits of a few more hundred dollars, for his PTSD disability, along with free medication from the VA to the tune of 200 5-mg Valiums per month in addition to 200 15-mg Serax tablets per month. 


I have no idea what today's monthly payments are to these veterans.  After repeated unsuccessful attempts to commit suicide on the pills the VA gave him (with the full knowledge of the VA), he finally succeeded in 2000 and is no longer with us.


I know firsthand what the effects of this disease are.  It's not conjecture.  It's fact.


As far as a credible site, how about this VETERANS site? 


http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.cfm?Page=Article&id=2468&NoMenu=1


Battling the Effects of War



Combat can wound the mind. New science helps vets from Iraq to cope



By Peg Tyre


Newsweek


December 6, 2004


 


It wasn't the gunshot wound in the arm that bothered Jose Hernandez when he returned home to Cincinnati after serving in Iraq. It was the lock on the front door. He couldn't relax until he secured it twice, three times and sometimes more. Even then he was still on edge. "I kept thinking about the things I saw over there—shooting on the streets, dead bodies and the terror in people's eyes. I couldn't get it out of my mind," says Hernandez, who served in the Army's 101st Airborne Division. He stopped sleeping, withdrew from friends and dropped plans to go back to college. His girlfriend finally demanded that he get help. A Veterans Administration psychiatrist diagnosed Hernandez with posttraumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, a potentially crippling mental condition caused by extreme stress.




Hernandez says he was one of the lucky ones. With a combination of antianxiety medication and talk therapy, his symptoms have begun to fade. Many of the 170,000 men and women now returning from Iraq and Afghanistan may not be as fortunate. When they get home, tens of thousands of them will be grappling with psychological problems such as PTSD, anxiety, mood disorders and depression. Though scientists are learning just how trauma affects the brain—and how best to help patients heal—there are still many obstacles to getting the treatment to the people who need it most. For starters, no one knows how many soldiers will be affected or how serious their problems will become. Early in the war the Army surveyed 3,671 returning Iraq veterans and found that 17 percent of the soldiers were already suffering from depression, anxiety and symptoms of PTSD.



Experts say those numbers are likely to grow. A study of Vietnam veterans conducted in 1980 found that 30 percent suffered from an anxiety condition later dubbed PTSD. Experts say the protracted warfare in Iraq—with its intense urban street fighting, civilian combatants and terrorism—could drive PTSD rates even higher. National Guard members, who make up 40 percent of the fighting force, with less training and less cohesive units, may be more vulnerable to psychological injuries than regular soldiers. Last year 5,100 soldiers who fought in Iraq or Afghanistan sought treatment in VA clinics for PTSD. That figure is expected to triple.



PTSD, a specific diagnosis, is not the only psychological damage soldiers can sustain. And experts say that mental disorders can make the already rugged transition from military to civilian life a harrowing one. Soldiers can experience depression, hypervigilance, insomnia, emotional numbing, recurring nightmares and intrusive thoughts. And in many cases, the symptoms worsen with time, leaving the victims at higher risk for alcohol and drug abuse, unemployment, homelessness and suicide. Sometimes families can become collateral damage. Christine Hansen, executive director of the Miles Foundation, which runs a hot line for domestic-violence victims in the military, says that since start of the Iraq war, calls have jumped from 50 to more than 500 a month.





Without treatment, some conditions such as chronic PTSD can be lethal. Five years after the Vietnam War, epidemiologists studying combat veterans found that they were nearly twice as likely to die from motor-vehicle accidents and accidental poisoning than veterans who didn't see combat. In a 30-year follow up, published in the Archives of Internal Medicine this year, the same combat vets continued to die at greater rates and remained especially vulnerable to drug overdose and accidental poisoning. "We had the John Wayne syndrome," says Vietnam veteran Greg Helle, who grappled with severe PTSD for decades. "We were men, we'd been to war. We thought we could tough it out." Doctors hadn't developed effective treatment for PTSD and besides, says Helle, seeking help was an admission of weakness.



Doctors now know that PTSD is the product of subtle biological changes that occur in the brain in response to extreme stress. Using sophisticated imaging techniques, researchers now believe that extreme stress alters the way memory is stored. During a major upheaval, the body releases massive doses of adrenaline which speeds up the heart, quickens the reflexes and, over several hours, burns vivid memories that are capable of activating the amygdala, or fear center, in the brain. People can get PTSD, doctors say, when that mechanism works too well. Instead of creating protective memories (ducking at the sound of gunfire), says Dr. Roger Pitman, a psychiatry professor at Harvard Medical School, "the rush of adrenaline creates memories that intrude on everyday life and without treatment, can actually hinder survival."



Why some people get PTSD and others don't remains a mystery. Recent studies suggest that a predisposition to the disorder may be genetic and that previous traumatic experiences can make soldiers more vulnerable to it. Once a soldier has it, though, says Dr. Matthew Friedman, executive director of the Department of Veterans Affairs National Center for PTSD, the good news is that the medical community now knows that "PTSD is very real and very treatable."



The challenge, says Friedman, is getting help—counseling or drug treatment—to veterans who need it most. As the Iraq war continues, officials at the Department of Defense and the VA are scrambling. After a rash of suicides among soldiers, they've increased the number of psychiatrists and psychologists in combat areas. Social workers trained to spot PTSD and other mental disorders are assigned to military hospitals around the country. Primary-care physicians at VA clinics and hospitals are now able to access combat records to see if their patients might be at risk for PTSD. Doctors are issued wallet-size reminders on how to spot PTSD and refer patients for further treatment. The VA has recently hired about 50 veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan to do outreach in the Vet Centers, a system of 206 community-based mental-health clinics around the country. But their resources are limited: Congress has set aside an additional $5 million a year for three years to deal with the new mental-health problem.



VA officials admit they're not catching everyone who needs help. National Guard members often do many tours and can be exposed to more combat than regular soldiers. But instead of rotating back to military bases where they can be monitored, they often return to their hometowns where readjustment problems can become a family crisis. If they begin to exhibit signs of PTSD or other psychological problems, they need to get help quickly. The VA will provide mental-health benefits for them for only two years following their service [The article is incorrect: Vet Center benefits are available for the remainder of a combat veterans life, not just two years; however, some physical care benefits are available for only two years].



Regular soldiers get mental-health benefits indefinitely.



Help came too late for Marine reservist Jeffrey Lucey. In July 2003, he returned home to Belchertown, Mass., from Iraq and gradually sank into a deep depression. His family looked on in anguish as he began drinking too much and isolating himself from their close-knit clan. By spring of 2004, he'd stopped sleeping, eating and attending college. When his sister Debra Lucey tried to have a heart-to-heart, "he'd describe the terrible things he'd seen and done," she says, "and he'd always end by saying 'You'll never be able to understand'." Frantic, family members had him committed to a psychiatric hospital but he was soon released. A few weeks later he crashed the family car, and the following month a neighbor found him wandering the streets in the middle of the night dressed in full camouflage with two battle knives he'd been issued in Iraq. Last June, Jeffrey Lucey hanged himself in the basement of his family home.



Shortly before he died, Lucey talked to an Iraq vet turned counselor at his local Vet Center. "He said he'd found someone who could really understand," says Debra. But before he could keep his next appointment, his demons took hold. Now Debra is telling her brother's story in the hope that others find the help they need in time. Psychological problems, she says, are an enemy that no soldier should face alone.



funny site

 


http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/index.htm


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posting site
another good place to post is communicate.excite.com.
Check out this site
http://www.filmstripinternational.com/index.php?asshole
Great Site

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/


I just wanted to share this website with my fellow liberals in case you haven't seen it yet.  Lots of interesting news and hot topics regarding our concerns about the right wing nuts.


This is a very informative site.

Thanks for posting it.  I'd be interested in knowing your views on the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1967 (killing 34 American soldiers and wounding 171). 


Also, how do you feel about Israel spying on the United States?


We all pretty much know Hezbollah's/Iran's/Syria's role in all this.  I think it's time we take a good look at the other countries involved in this region including America and Israel.


Again, thank you for a very interesting and informative site.  I hope you keep posting.  I think I can learn a lot from you.


This is really not such an informative site.
This is a very small handful of Jews (I am Jewish) and they are here in the United States.  They have lost touch with what is happening in Israel.  The rest of what you are saying is just confusing to me.  What are you getting at?  To see the few posters on this board, all of a sudden, Israel is the great evil and Hezbollah are saints. It's really sickening.
Nice web site
Very many thanks for a good work. Nice and useful. Like it!
Try reading this site. SM
You might also learn what actions of the prostestors during VN had on the soldiers who fought there then, just as they are now.
Can someone direct me to a site (sm)

that states the candidates' detailed respective platforms at a glance? I've watched most of the debates, as much as I can anyhow,  but I've not been able glean and distinguish a lot of specifics. 


I'm in FL and vote on Tuesday.  Believe it or not, I am undecided.  I liked Dennis, but he pulled out today and probably wouldn't have voted for him... won't go into why, but I'm sure I don't have to :-)


Dennis says to go Obama.... not sure if I want to.  What I want is to have a Dem president.  I like Edwards...


My demographic falls into Hilary's (female 45 and over lol).


Input appreciated. 


Actually, I got it off the CBS News site....
Apparently, THEY got it off Politico. CBS is HARDLY a right wing news source. And there were no caveats on their site. Yes, Murtha has added some caveats, as I knew he would, but the fact remains, he said it.

Thanks for jumping in and being so judgmental, Taiga. Par for the course.
Isn't this a liberal site?
Why are you posting here? You're the furthest thing from a "liberal" I've seen in a long time.
Well, if you have the guts, go to the site...
http://www.abort73.com/ and view that video. The one that starts out with warning, graphic images. Then you come back here and tell me about baby mutilation.

And frankly, the way a bill is worded means nothing. If you would vote against a bill designed to save a child born alive for ANY reason, you are, in MY opinion, morally bankrupt. That is putting politics above the life of a child, and that tells me all I want to know about Barack Obama's decision-making process. If that sits okay in your books, fine, you certainly have the right to your opinion. I have the right to mine as well...and it does not sit okay with me.
Web site best place.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Mouse over the issues and a drop down list will provide you with lots of links that should keep you busy. You can also check out some of his better speeches if you like. If you are interested in being conversational and social and an Obama party, this is the place for you.

As you have already discovered, this chat room is the last place to look. The web site simply lays out the platform and policies in Obama's own words, without bias one way or the other..simple straight talk.

If, however, you are interested in getting kicked out of the party and labeled a right-wing fringe element, then go to the other links on black liberation theology. You are free, of course, to read about it and come to your own conclusions. But if you do explore that issue, please read the website throughly before deciding whether or not you think he subscribes to that theology. I can tell you categorically, none of his supporters believe the propaganda suggested to you in the other posts in this regard. It would be interesting to ask others at the party what they think about the assertions that Obama embodies those beliefs.

How refreshing to find a voter as open minded as this. Good luck with our research. Feel free to email me with any questions you may have.
Thanks for checking out the site
with an open mind. If he's not your cup of tea, I know it's not easy to plow through a site like that. I had a hard time becoming familiar with McCain's site before the election, but I did manage to keep myself on there long enough to correct some wrong impressions I had about him from hanging around the lefties too long.

I logged in and made it through about 250 votes on questions and gave the civil, even-handed questions about Blagojevich a thumbs up, but some of them (and ones on other subjects as well) were just plain disingenuous.
I don't need Obama's web site......... sm
to tell me what the real issues are, thank you very much. I'd rather not be one of the brainwashed masses.
Okay, here it is from NPR.....NOT a conservative site by any...
stretch:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93954519
Informative site.......

You can scroll down to bottom and find Obama's economic proposals.....


http://www.rightchange.com/


I did that below. Also gave the name of the site.
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Another interesting site...
http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/
There is web site for the transition
http://change.gov/
Gee, I wonder who owns that web site....(NM)
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A site all of you may approve of.

I found this site this morning. It's pretty neat. On the right, it includes biographies, voting records, issue positions, interest group ratings, speeches, finances (campaign contributions), etc., etc.


In the center, if you click on one of the underlined groups, it will tell you who they are, their mission, and how they rated every one in government.


On the left, you can put your own congressman or senator and do the same.


 


http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=9490


I could site sources that say there were...
WMDs in Iraq, but would only be dismissed because they did not come from liberal media. Propaganda works both ways. At any rate, I am finished arguing with you people. I suggest we agree to disagree.
Found this on another site..........sm
Granted, it is just an opinion (of someone else) but I think this plan would work to achieve the desired results much more so than the current plan.  Granted, it does not create jobs, but if it were implemented, then the money would be there for spending and that would, in turn, create jobs in most of the  areas where they have been lost - retail sales and manufacturing.  It might also create jobs in construction as folks might be more inclined to make home improvements or even buy a new home with the money freed up. 

DEAR PRESIDENT OBAMA, VP BIDEN AND CONGRESS;
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YOU WILL PROBABLY NEVER SEE THIS, READ IT, CONSIDER IT OR USE IT, BUT HERE GOES! I AM WHITE MALE, REGISTERED INDEPENDENT, 62 YR OLD TEAMSTER RETIRED FROM A COMPANY THAT USED TO BE CALLED AIRBORNE EXPRESS. WHICH WAS BOUGHT OUT BY A GERMAN COMPANY DHL. WHICH NOW HAS CLOSED DOWN ITS DOMESTIC OPERATIONS AND CENTRAL DISTRIBUTION HUB/AIRPORT, DELIVERY STATIONS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTERS. LAYING OFF 9,000 AMERICAN WORKERS ACROSS AMERICA AND DESTROYING ONE PARTICULAR AMERICAN TOWN, WILMINGTON OH!
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TAX CUTS ARE FINE BUT EITHER THEY DONT WORK OR DONT PUT MONEY IN OUR POCKETS TO SPEND AND STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FROM THE BOTTOM UP! THE “TRICKLE DOWN THEORY” EITHER DIDNT WORK OR WASNT FAST ENOUGH!
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ALSO, THANKS TO THE LAWYERS IN CONGRESS, THE STIMULUS PACKAGE 2009 POSTED ON LINE IS NOT DETAILED ENOUGH FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN TO UNDERSTAND! PLEASE SIMPLIFY IT AND GO ON PRIME TIME TV AND EXPLAIN IT TO US LINE BY LINEEXACTLY HOW EVERYONE OF OUR DOLLARS IS TO BE SPENT, WHAT KIND OF JOBS WILL BE CREATED AND WHERE THEY WILL BE!
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BESIDES THE ABOVE I PROPOSE THE: “TRICKLE UP THEORY”
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1.
A. GIVE EACH LEGAL U.S. ADULT CITIZEN $1MIL TAX FREE! YES THATS A LOT (SO IS THE $50 BIL A MONTH BEING SPENT ON THE WAR FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS). BUT IT WILL DO A LOT MORE GOOD THEN THE PALTRY SUMS CONGRESS IS TALKING ABOUT! BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY DEEP FINANCIAL HOLE WEVE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO THAT WE MUST NOW CLIMB OUT OF!
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B. EACH OF US MUST SIGN A LEGAL CONTRACT BETWEEN US AND THE GOVERNMENT AGREEING TO THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS OR FORFEIT THE MONEY ALL WITHIN A 1-2 YEAR TIMELINE!
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2. MUST BE SPENT ON;
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A. EITHER TO RECLAIM OUR FORECLOSED PRIMARY RESIDENCES OR TO PURCHASE ONE. (NO VACATION HOMES, INVESTMENT/SPECULATION OR BUSINESS PROPERTIES!)
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B. MUST BE SPENT TO IMPROVE OUR PRIMARY RESIDENCES IE; ENERGY EFFICIENT INSULATION, WINDOWS, DOORS, ROOFS, SOLAR PANELS ETC!
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C. YOU MUST PAYOFF ALL MORTGAGES, LOAN, DEBTS, ETC!
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D. YOU MUST SETUP FULL COLLEGE FUNDS FOR YOUR CHILDREN UNDER 21 YEARS OLD. YOU MUST SETUP FULL HEALTHCARE PLANS FOR YOU, YOUR SPOUSE AND ANY CHILDREN UNDER 21 YEARS OLD!
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E. YOU MUST PURCHASE THE MOST EFFICIENT U.S. MADE APPLIANCES, CARS, TRUCKS, ETC!
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IN CLOSING WE MUST STOP THE BICKERING AND WHINING IN CONGRESS AND GET THIS DONE ON TOP OF THE PRESIDENT’S 2009 STIMULUS PACKAGE! IT MUST BE DONE NOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE FAMILIES OUT THERE SUFFERING, NO JOBS, NO FOOD, NO HEALTHCARE, NO HOUSING! THEYRE SLEEPING AND STARVING OUT IN THE WOODS AND UNDER THE BRIDGES ACROSS AMERICA!
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GIVE US THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS/CITIZENS OUR OWN MONEY BACK AND LET US INFUSE THE ECONOMY WHICH WILL CREATE THE JOBS AND INFUSE THE TAX BASES! TRUST US TO DO THE RIGHT THING LIKE WE TRUSTED YOU WHEN WE VOTED FOR YOU TO REPRESENT US!
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I WOULD HAVE SENT THIS DIRECT TO WHITEHOUSE.GOV OR STRONGMIDDLECLASS.ORG BUT THEY ONLY ALLOW 500 CHARACTERS/LETTERS NOT WORDS AND THAT IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH!
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TO ALL OF MY FRIENDS OUT THERE I ASK YOU TO PLEASE READ AND CONSIDER THIS LETTER AND IF YOU AGREE PLEASE BY ALL MENAS, SIGN YOUR NAME TO IT AND FORWARD IT TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS. EMAIL IT TO ALL THE SENATORS AND CONGREEMEN/WOMEN IN CONGRESS, TO ALL THE NEWSPAPER EDITORS ACROSS AMERICA!
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IF YOU DONT AGREE THEN PLEASE COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER! BUT PLEASE BY GOD DO SOMETHING WITH THIS BEFORE THEY LET THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY AND US GO TO RUIN!

Another good site...
is www.congress.org

You can go there, put in your zip code, and get the names of all of your representatives and their email addresses. You can also sign up to receive notices of what actions are coming up in congress to be voted on, as well as what bills were already voted on and how your representative voted on the matter.

Please, however you stand on any issue, now is the time to get involved and let the people in Washington know that we're out here and we're paying attention.
The web site is americansolutions.com ...
no spaces
It's a conservative site, but not everyone agrees. sm
I post on other conservative sites, as well.  I have never been banned for disagreeing.  I just never saw posts like the ones you are saying you saw.  My main bone of contention is Libby who believes something just because Bill Maher said so and she has no idea what Freepers do.  They do a lot of good, especially for injured military and do a lot of things for the military in general.  To condemn an entire group for a few bad apples is just not right and I stand by THAT.
Fitzgerald Launches Web Site









 
washingtonpost.com


Fitzgerald Launches Web Site

By Dan Froomkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Friday, October 21, 2005; 1:00 PM


Special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald has just launched his own brand-new Web site.


Could it be that he's getting ready to release some new legal documents? Like, maybe, some indictments? It's certainly not the action of an office about to fold up its tents and go home.


Fitzgerald spokesman Randall Samborn minimized the significance of the Web launch in an interview this morning.


I would strongly caution, Dan, against reading anything into it substantive, one way or the other, he said. It's really a long overdue effort to get something on the Internet to answer a lot of questions that we get . . . and to put up some of the documents that we have had ongoing and continued interest in having the public be able to access.


OK, OK. But will the Web site be used for future documents as well?


The possibility exists, Samborn said.


Among the documents currently available on the site:


* The December 30, 2003, memo from then-acting attorney general James B. Comey establishing Fitzgerald as an independent special counsel with all the authority of the Attorney General with respect to the Department's investigation into the alleged unauthorized disclosure of a CIA employee's identity.


* A Feb. 6, 2004, follow-up confirming that his mandate includes the authority to investigate and prosecute violations of any federal laws related to the underlying alleged unauthorized disclosure, as well as federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, your investigation.


The Web site is bare bones and is still a work in progress, Samborn said. We have some document formatting issues that we're still resolving. As a result, the site has not yet been officially announced -- although there is a link from Fitzgerald's home page as the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois.


Up until now, the only official repository for documents related to the special counsel's investigation had been a page on the U.S. District Court's Web site. But it only included court motions and rulings.


Incidentally, if you call the number the new Web site lists for Fitzgerald's D.C. office, the phone is somewhat mysteriously answered counterespionage section.


But as Samborn explained to me, that's because the special prosecutor is borrowing space in the Justice Department's Bond Building from the counterespionage section. The office of special counsel doesn't really have its own dedicated space, he said.


check out this site..I joined

 


Would be great if my liberal friends/co-posters would check out this site and join..you can take a tour and check out the posts.


http://groups.msn.com/eXtremelyPolitics


demo blog site
http://www.ariannaonline.com/
I will add (to Clinton apologists on this site) SM
Before anyone gets their undies in a twist about bringing up Clinton when the subject is Bush, my point is though the tale of Ricky Ray Rector is horrible and sad and a lot of other things, I never judged Clinton for it.  A very important point is lost here. You all seem to be sitting in judgement. You are NOT God.  This seems to be escaping you all somehow. I am off to church. I will pray for you.
In my opinion, it is an informative site.

You're entitled to your opinion and whether you like it or not, I'm entitled to mine.


And I'm sorry, but as you know, my questions weren't directed at you.  They were directed at objective people who might possibly believe that Israel is not perfect.  Contrary to your vivid imagination, nobody on this board ever said Hezbollah are saints.  I am just trying to explore everyone's role in the recent mideast war, including America's.  It's sad that you feel the search for the truth is sickening.  Your tummy might feel more comfy in the The Israel-Is-Perfect-And-Can-Do-No-Wrong room.  The door is thataway >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Go to Obama's web site to see his agenda. sm
There you will find very detailed solutions that he lays out for America.  Of course experience is a good thing, but the trouble is the longer a person is embedded in the political establishment the more entrenched they become in "business as usual." Business as usual has netted little in this country, especially regarding the middle class.  I can't say Obama is the magic bullet here, after all he too is a politician, but a little less entrenched, and maybe it's worth a shot to see if someone with a little less "insider experience" could start to turn the country in a different and better, direction.  What do we have to lose?
food for thought...go to this site:
compares the campaign planes.

http://bellalu0.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/obama-campaign-plane-vs-mccain-campaign-plane/

Cut and paste into your browser. This would suggest that perhaps Mr. Obama does have a problem with the American flag. It does to me.