Ummm.. this has been posted a couple times
Posted By: We know already.nm on 2008-10-24
In Reply to: Attack story a flat-out lie. sm - Anon
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Ummm....Oldtimer has posted several times
You and I are on the same page when it comes to rude and inflammatory posts. I will be responding to them whenever the spirit moves me. You should do the same...or not. Whatever. BTW, I for one could give a rat's bottom about maintaining a "reputation" on a forum where many, many people make a choice to remain anonymous. It's just one of those things in life you have to learn to deal with. If name-calling and throwing tantrums gives you some sense of releif, go for it, but do not expect the target to go stand in the corner and hide out until you are done.
Ummm....Oldtimer has posted several times
You and I are on the same page when it comes to rude and inflammatory posts. I will be responding to them whenever the spirit moves me. You should do the same...or not. Whatever. BTW, I for one could give a rat's bottom about maintaining a "reputation" on a forum where many, many people make a choice to remain anonymous. It's just one of those things in life you have to learn to deal with. If name-calling and throwing tantrums gives you some sense of releif, go for it, but do not expect the target to go stand in the corner and hide out until you are done.
I posted about this a couple days ago....nobody cared.....sm
More scary stuff from the Obama campaign.
Just wait till they tax us to death.
Be sure not to give the govt your credit card numbers.
I'd laugh and say this is a joke, but who knows what will happen if and when he gets to office.
Hi, JTBB, I posted exactly the same thought s a couple
of posts above before I read your post.
You see, I cannot believe what I am reading here. Isn't this SLANDER what these people are doing? Reading these posts I thought I fell into a snake-pit, so much hatred, it's unbelievable.
Actually, McCain criticized Obama for his passivity and restraint. According to McCain Obama should have declared
WAR ON IRAN.
At that point the US has no right to any action against Iran.
So much hypocrisy, I bet these are the people who put the Bible under their pillow during the night and during the day they shout, 'War, war, war!'
Ummm....wasn't me who posted about easy on the eyes... nm
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Ummm....ummm....nope, I'd best not touch that one. nm
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No one knows what went on with this couple...
before he left. I am sure that was not the only couple who a man returning from the service divorced upon return, or women who divorced men who were over there serving. His ex-wife maintains that they are still close and apparently she does not hold the sour grapes personally that the public seems to hold, who were not involved and do not know the intimate details. It doesn't seem really fair to post things like this when the whole story is not known.
This is what McCain's ex-wife said about him:
"I'm crazy about John McCain and I love him to pieces," Carol McCain told the New York Times, "but I'm just not going to do interviews."
She does not sound bitter to me.
Ummm...yes you did....
You said take it to the conservative board. And I do not see what in the post was bashing. It was stating an opinion, which anyone, no matter what their political affiliation is, still has the right to do on this board or any other to my knowledge. If you perceive the truth as bashing, that is your prerogative. And the truth IS, liberals continue to defend Clinton even though he was and is a morally corrupt individual who broke the law of the United States while a sitting President. He did it, that is the truth, there is no way around that. Yet your party continues to say it was about sex. I will try this one more time...perjury is perjury no matter what it is ABOUT. It is a felony. He broke the law and his oath of office. Never apologized for either. And took his last hours in office an opportunity to pardon all the crony crooks he could. And yet you continue to defend him as a great man. Pardon me if that seriously undermines the credibility of your party. That is NOT bashing. That is the TRUTH.
ummm
The way I read that is these units would be activated in case of natural or manmade diaster, not out on the streets everyday. Good greif.
Ummm, so maybe they can
Then the guilty can be punished, and the innocent prisoners who are not terrorists (or at least weren't when they were initially locked up) can be set free.
Kinda a no brainer, dontcha think?
Ummm....
source of the info and the fact that you "don't know anybody who would think it's right" yada yada yada, chances are you and the author are jumping to conclusions that are most likely a tad over-stated. It might be helpful to keep in mind that the "government" is not some block of concrete buildings or master computer somewhere. They are flesh and blood just like the rest of us and are not likely to be party to placing "control" of the heath care of themselves, their parents and their own children in the thoes of such a scheme. Sorry. Jury's still out on this.
Ummm....
source of the info and the fact that you "don't know anybody who would think it's right" yada yada yada, chances are you and the author are jumping to conclusions that are most likely a tad over-stated. It might be helpful to keep in mind that the "government" is not some block of concrete buildings or master computer somewhere. They are flesh and blood just like the rest of us and are not likely to be party to placing "control" of the heath care of themselves, their parents and their own children in the thoes of such a scheme. Sorry. Jury's still out on this.
Ummm...no....
Get over yourself. If you have something intelligent to say, I'm all ears, but until that time.....
Ummm....(sm)
So you don't think waterboarding is illegal -- even though it goes directly against at least 4 existing treaties? If we aren't going to be held accountable by treaties that WE agree to, what's the point of being in them?
This is actually where I do disagree with Obama. He doesn't want to make this into a partisan thing and is seemingly not too interested in prosecutions. My opinion is that its not partisan to enforce existing laws. As far as I'm concerned the whole bunch from the Shrub gang need to be prosecuted. Maybe we can just extradite them to Spain. That would work for me.
Ummm....(sm)
Doesn't this belong on the gab board? What's wrong....don't want to talk about your heros, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld going down for torture?
Ummm....(sm)
I think I would go with conventional interrogation techniques...you know....the ones that actually worked on KSM before the waterboarding.
Ummm....(sm)
"what right does the government have to take MY money and give to an organization like ACORN to pass out to democratic candidates for their campaigns"
Well, that was straight out of O'Reilly's mouth. LOL. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's just about exactly what he said last night.
So you think that there is a direct funnel that takes our tax dollars and just hands them over to Acorn? Here's a news flash --- as the ladies noted last night on Billo's show, they are a nonprofit organization and have to apply and compete for grants and loans just like everyone else.
As for whether they are completely on the up and up, I have no idea, but I don't think I'll base that judgment on the commentary of a right-wing show host.
Ummm....(sm)
Exactly how is it that Fox's ratings prove that O'Reilly is not far right? LOL.. Ratings have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.
However, since you mentioned Obama and fulfilling his promises, it may not turn out like you think. For the most part people who voted for him are pretty happy with how he's handling the economy and foreign affairs. However, there are a few things that have gotten to a lot of dems. For example, he hasn't gotten rid of "don't ask don't tell" yet. He hasn't fulfilled promises he made to the LGBT community. He's carrying on seemingly with "indefinite detention." He ran on a platform that promised these things would be fixed. Granted, he hasn't been there long and can still come around on these things. However, if he doesn't my guess is that the country will go even farther to the left than they did this time. Now that is what you should be worried about, not Fox ratings.
And just as a side note, if he gets healthcare reform through, it will be decades before a pub sets foot in the White House.
ummm.
Now who's making assumptions? You don't know what he paid for either. Secondly, I am fully aware of what is going on in this country. Spending, printing money, spending, printing money, etc., etc. Get over Bush He is gone. Obama has in four shorts months spent more money than the 43 presidents who preceded him COMBINED. So yeah, I worry about the cost of his date. Because it's just plain wrong. You want logic - you don't spend taxpayer money on a DATE in this failing economy. Logic would be to lead by example, not telling other people to sacrifice and then do something so excessive. Furthermore, who said I voted for Bush? You? Shows what you know. Next time don't vote in Obama and maybe free enterprise in this country will survive so we will all have jobs.
Ummm....(sm)
Obama has writtent 2 books ---- the first, "Dreams From My Father," was published in 1995. The second, "The Audacity of Hope," was published in 2006. --- Both before the election.
Ummm....actually it does...(sm)
The Declaration of Independence is not and was not a legal document. It simply stated the intent of the US to separate from Great Britian and why. It did not define any rules or regulations to be imposed in this nation.
Explain the Treaty of Tripoli that says "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
Another note: Not everyone in this country is in the business of impressing your god and therefore has no need of any kind of "blessing" from your god. What if I were a pagan and told you that the sun god was going to scorch the US unless everyone prayed to him/her. Would you do it? That's what you expect everyone else to do to impress your god. Why? Because YOU don't want to be in the mix when your supposed wrath of god experience comes. I would put that in the category of trying to make others do something they don't agree with just to save your behind. Don't even bother with the "but we want to save you too" speech. Believe me, we don't want or need saving.
Ummm...no....(sm)
Your main point was what you initially stated, and that was that there was no mention in the MSM about this incident. Unfortunately for you, I can undoubtedly come up with even more proof of MSM coverage if you'd like, but that would only serve to embarass you further.
As far as Obama not saying much about it, I think that was a good choice. At the time he was only a couple days out from his speech in Cairo. --- That would be the speech where he is seeking to calm tensions between our religous nuts and their religious nuts. Yeah....that would have been just a perfect time to bring that up. How about using your brain for a change instead of just spitting out the right wing talking points.
Ummm....(sm)
I do believe I've more than proven I can take the heat on this board....LOL, even from the loons like you who just lurk around waiting for me to post something so you can jump on it, which is rather funny and pathetic all at the same time, as well as from the paranoid lunatics like Patty.
BTW, you can now take "paranoid lunatic" out of the insinuation box and put in the statement box......just so you don't get confused.
Ummm....(sm)
A gag order was issued:
http://www2.arkansasonline.com/news/2009/jun/08/gag-order-issed-shooting-case/
The whole point of the gag order (which the prosecutors asked for, btw) is so they can come up with a jury that has not been overexposed to the case. I guess Fixed Noise wants to ensure that everyone hears about this so we can have a really hard time prosecuting this guy. Way to go Fox! 
In the last couple of weeks,
I've received several envelopes in the mail that were sealed with a few inches torn open at the top of the envelope. One of them was a check from my part-time employer, and it was easy to see through the envelope that it was a check folded in half. (At least they didn't remove the contents like they did with you.)
I've never experienced anything like this in my life, and I wonder if this has been happening to any other liberals out there. 
LOL. You forgot a couple....sm
911 gone bonkers brigade (one from Charlie Sheen after he got attacked)and Mike Malloy's - yes, I am a liberal and I shall eat your eyeballs.
The Scholars for 911 Truth have quite an impressive group of members. Here is a link to their membership page:
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html
A couple of questions...
what proof do you have that the war has anything at all to do with oil...and what do you mean...you "bought" your patriotism? "Served it?" Curious as to what that means. And ya know...I have been kinda tired for YEARS as the terrorists picked off our people by the hundreds until they hit the big one on 9-11 and took out 3000 at one time. Just wondering if you think that was worth fighting over. Just wondering. If not...what? When they kill 8,000? 10,000? How many will it take? Just wondering. How much innocent blood will have to be spilled here to get you as angry at the terrorists as you are at conservatives? Just wondering.....
A couple notes
Ty Sam for your unbiased comments. I understand you totally - just bringing up issues you have heard.
Here's a couple things I understand about the situation.
Bill & Hillary were trying to file this petition, but not until after she started losing. It ranks up there with the "Florida fiasco" she created but then tried to overturn. In fact I believe they were trying to claim he was born in Kenya at the same time they said Florida didn't matter and agreed to not count Florida until they were losing, then they decided they wanted their votes (unfortunately it was a little too late for them). Bill & Hillary were (are) so desparate to get back into the white house that they were grasping at anything. I think it was ruled that Barack was born in Hawaii (not Kenya) according to the birth certificate. Which I'm sure had to be verified before he would even be eligible to run. My gut feeling is that Bill & Hillary were trying to get a lot of people to believe that he was born in Kenya so they would vote against him. Luckily for Barack their "plan" didn't work. It would have been devastating for him to lose based on a lie put out by the Clintons mis-informing people just so they could win (as I read that I just realized that is what campaign ads do. They put out lies about their oponents - both sides). Anyway...heard it was overturned and his birth certificate does say he was born in Hawaii. Also, like the other poster said if your born to American citizens but are born outside the US (like the military in Germany) you are still considered a natural born citizen.
On a side note, I heard Gov. Ed Rendell talk and for the first time I finally agree with him on what he was saying. For the first time he finally made statement that were rational. I do know that he was big big big Hillary supporter and spoke out against Obama when she was running against him, but yesterday or the day before I heard him talking and he said that Obama was clearly qualified and would make a fine president, blah, blah, blah (can't remember the whole speech). He went down the list of things he doesn't think McCain is good at and why he would not be a good president, and went down the list as to why he felt Barack was the best candidate. So for him to do a total turn around I gained a little respect for him.
Actually there were a couple things to add - (sm)
'Change', as I would like to see it, would also include a new U.S. President who was not hated by the rest of the world's inhabitants and leaders, nor mocked and ridiculed. Instead, it would be a President that took the time to listen when other world leaders were speaking, and who in turn others would listen to when he or she was speaking.
Our new President would be someone who put some thought into when and where to send U.S. aid when it was needed abroad, and when NOT to. That same President would not turn away when people or cities (such as New Orleans) needed help during a disaster.
I would also like to see this country start to treat its animals better than it currently does. Larger and better-run animal shelters, and more education and effort put into spay-and-neuter programs. Why there is no mandadory spay/neuter law on the books for household pets is beyond me, but judging by the overcrowded shelters, rescues, and pet-ads on Craigslist, maybe it's time. And although I'm not a member of PETA, nor a vegetarian, I think that animals who are raised for our consumption, who in essence give their lives for us in the end, need their days on Earth to be far better than they currently are. They should live happily and non-squalid conditions while they're alive, and when the time for slaughter finally comes, it should be quick, painless, non-traumatic & humane. And I would like to see our government start to lean on other countries which treat their animals HORRIBLY, China being one of the worst.
yep, I found this and a couple more, see above....sm
haven't had time to read through it all, though.
2A couple of things here. If you are an MT, you should know
If you ever attended a high school American/English literature class, you may recall a fairly extensive study of the concept of metaphor. Intelligent, gifted writers and speakers often use them to describe, illustrate or define. Obama is using metaphor here, as he often does.
Another concept taught at that level of language study is the notion of CONTEXT. You do recall that, don't you? McCain supporters have an adversion to context and have an almost universal compulsion to ignore context and often skew / slaughter Obama'statements by lifing them out of context and manipulating parts of his messages by placing them in a new "McCain" context. That is what you are doing here.
If you are feeling too lazy this morning to visit the dictionary, here is a link:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/epiphany
1. (initial capital letter) a Christian festival, observed on January 6, commemorating the manifestation of Christ to the gentiles in the persons of the Magi; Twelfth-day.
2. an appearance or manifestation, esp. of a deity.
3. a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight into the reality or essential meaning of something, usually initiated by some simple, homely, or commonplace occurrence or experience.
4. a literary work or section of a work presenting, usually symbolically, such a moment of revelation and insight.
Entry #1 indicates this term to be a Christian concept. It is really comical when on the one hand McCain supporters vow and declare that Obama is a Muslim terrorist, but on the other hand attack him for his close mentoring by as association with Christian Jeremiah Right, making him a Muslim AND Christian at the same time. However, your more recent predominating theme is that Obama is a Moslem. Since you guys insist that Obama is not a Christian, he could not possibly be referring to entry #1. That also makes reference to entr #2 unlikely, especially since that meaning of the word is typically encountered in Christian eschatologic bodies of work or discussions as such.
Your attention is drawn to enties #3 and 4. In commonplace everyday discourse, those are the meanings that are most often used. Epiphany in this context means perception or inspiration. Inspiration is what Obama provides for his supporters. Hope and change. Nothing particularly new or controversial there.
A couple of reasons
I am a transcriptionist, but I only graduated in May, so I am not up to the speed some of you seasoned MTs are. I'm getting better everyday, but I am still in school to finish my Psych degree so I can only work part time. My husband just graduated in May also and since the job market is so bad he is having trouble finding a job (he is a history major so that's hard enough as it is!) He currently works for his dad building houses for $300 a week. We were renting a house right before we got married and we happened to find a house for sale that was as much in mortgage as we were paying in rent, so we decided to purchase it (fixed interest, not subprime or balloon) and have an investment rather than renting and never seeing that money again.
Of course when my husband finds a career position we will be better off (I pray!) but as it stands right now we will probably make $33,000 between us before taxes if he doesn't.
Believe me, I would love to get checks in the mail, but it's just not fair. I'm finishing my psych degree because I want to be able to help people (and I do want to be able to make more). I love MT, but at the rate we are going, I don't know if we will be around much longer.
But lets put it this way, with your 40K this year, and me making 30K for the sake of simplicity, would it be fair for you to give me 5K so we both have 35K? That would probably really upset you. You would probably tell me to work more if I wanted as much as you, right?
And shoot, if I could get that, then why don't I just make 20K, and you can give me 10K, so we both have 30K?
In the perfect world where EVERYONE worked to get up in life, then yes, "sharing the wealth" may work. Unfortunately, there are to many lazy people out there that will see that they are getting something for nothing and will just continue to do nothing. Not fair to hard working individuals like yourself and myself (I consider myself hard working since I do work part time 7 days a week and take classes!) :)
Whew sorry that was so long!
A couple of us on here tried to tell everyone this. No one listens. sm
Ignorant and uninformed Americans are going to get exactly what they deserve. While everybody is busy arguing over stupid little issues and who is red and who is blue, they are destroying our country.
You can also bank on Diebold making sure votes for 3rd party candidates ended up under the 2 main candidates totals too. I think Obama was more popular, but there is fraud in every election and I doubt this one was an exception.
There is no difference between McCain and Obama because they are both beholden to the same interests. We really have a one-party system and they have everything completely monopolized.
Pay attention to what goes on in the economy now that the election is over. The PPT has been keeping the markets falsely propped up.
What a couple of goofballs!
I am the original poster of the message you found so offensive, and I have not posted anything since. I have just been watching the two of you argue and call each other names when you are both on the same side.
It has been quite entertaining!
Thanks. Here are just a couple comments
It is true. People can disagree without getting nasty. I think everyone gets in a dander when they feel they are being attacked for their beliefs/opinions.
I did vote for him and fully supported him while he was running against Hillary. All I knew was (to me) she was one of the worst people to run for office. She had no clue, road on the coattails of her husband. Everything good he did she claimed it as hers, but everything bad he did she had nothing to do with. Her lies were so blatant and then when she came out and told the public the reason she was staying in (in case something (too horrible to mention) happened to Obama, she'd be right there and even brought up JFK's name (or maybe it was RFK - one of the Kennedy's)). I just thought that was the worst worst worst ever. She may have been thinking and hoping for it but to actually say it just truly made me realize how much more I disliked her and the thought of her getting in literally made me nauseous. I also voted for Obama in the primaries because I said enough of the Clintons, they destroyed what little faith I had in the democratic party back then (I voted for Bill the first time but not the second) and all their crooked deals and illegal doings going on while they were in there, there was no way in you know where I wanted any of that crowd back (who knew Obama was going to bring them all back - Arrrrggggg - that's my word of frustration). After the primary's ended I started reading and hearing more and more about Obama's plans and speeches, etc. I thought to myself, well listening to his voice give speeches would be much better than listening to McCain with his "my friends" every other sentence he speaks, but then listening to Obama it got to a point where I'd just be counting how many uh, uh, umm, er, uh, uh. I even had some bets with friends who would get the closest number would buy the other a beer. HA HA. Anyway...I do say give the guy a chance, but I know that a lot of dems would be all over McCains back if he had gotten elected.
What I am seeing and hearing and reading is not very hopeful. I listen to the economist who know what's going on and have the solutions. It looks like a pretty dim future and I'm not blinded like a lot are with Obama's speeches. I want to know the truth and I'm not getting it from them (go figure).
What I don't like is that Obama is no different than all the other politicians out there. He lied to us during his campaign just like all the other presidents lied to us about what they would do. He kept boasting about change but he's not bringing change. He keeps spewing this hope message. Well its now time to put hope to work and stop talking about it as though he is still campaigning.
However, I respect anyone who has a difference of opinions. They (like me) are entitled to the way they feel. Like my mom used to say to me, I may disagree with you, but I respect you and people can have conversations without getting nasty.
Agree!! My DH knows a couple
who were/are hard-working, intelligence on the slow side, he would say mentally-retarded. They were looking to buy a house, had a good-sized downpayment, got the mortgage, but not understanding what they were signing, lost their house because their interest rate climbed and climbed. YES, I definitely agree, BLAME IT ON THE LENDERS, their greed, their sleeze, and the fact that the interest rates were allowed to go through the roof!!
Another one from a couple of years ago
that is coming true right now is While Europe Slept. Scary but true.
Actually he was right about a couple of things
believe it or not. Wasn't he also the one who said Obama didn't have enough experience to be pres? LOL.
So, if a gay couple gets married...(sm)
exactly how does it affect you? Does it make you less of a heterosexual? Does it make you less of a christian? Does it turn your finances upside down? Tell me, exactly how does it affect you personally?
They also teach about Hitler in school. Does that mean that your children will be like Hitler?
Oh, I don't know....a couple of shots over the bow....
That would do the trick and get their attention. What good does it do to have a Navy ship either on its way or already there if we can't utilize it's firepower?
A couple of points
1. The Department of Defense budget is being increased.
2. We would not be in our grave situation in this industry if we had unions to protect us against some egregious practices by MTSOs.
3. We would have a 2-party government right now if the Republicans would quit playing silly games. It seems like every week, they manage to do something stupider than the week before.
4. A vote for Mickey Mouse would have been more logical than a vote for the McCain/Palin ticket.
A couple more points
1. Defense spending is being cut, not increased.
2. Unions are not the answer to everything - just as those in Detroit.
3. Republicans alone are not to blame for the break down in the 2-party system - there were Democrats that voted against the stimulus bill and the other garbage being churned out of DC.
4. I would have gladly voted for Mickey Mouse, as long as it wasn't a vote for Obama - Mickey would probably be doing a better job.
A couple of points
1. Percentages, as with our industry, where 30 years ago I was making 5 cents a line and earning at least $100 a day, and have now gotten up to 8 cents a line with all kinds of "technical advances" that keep me barely above $100 a day?
2. I live in Detroit (well, very close, about 8 miles away). If my husband had not been a Union Ironworker, we would have continued struggling alone with jobs that would not have allowed us to live with any security or luxuries, like buying a new car every once in awhile.
3. Gotta tell it like it is.
4. Gotta tell it like it is.
So basically, I live in Michigan and I don't believe the unions are the cause of the auto company's struggles. I would suggest that poor management practices by all the folks who make the really big bucks is far more to blame. The unions have been forced to take cut after cut, including loss of retirement health care, and the beat continues to go on.
I tried to keep "trash talk" out of my response and it's unfortunate that you do not see it that way. One good thing about our country is that people are allowed to have opposing opinions. Not everybody thinks like you do - actually, more than half the country as per the last election.
I could use a couple more honey-do's....nm
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How does a gay couple getting married take away
The are not attempting to outlaw hetero marriage, so how are you deprived of your rights?
Ummm....no. The link says sm
it contains a malformed video id. That's what it says when you paste it into the address bar and it takes you to You Tube.
Ummm...Which America would that be?
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Ummm....they do, actually, just as they take issue with
and ran with it.
Ummm....for starters
managed to assemble more than a dozen transitional economic advisors in 3 days, and I am certain he will not confine himself to those guys before it's all over. He has a 15 cabinet positions, 6 cabinet-level administrations positions and 3 Level 1 Executive Schedule offices to consider.
He's not been sworn into office, so there is not a whole lot he can do directly except to articulate his intent. No time for ego for a man who is preparing to face one of the greatest challenges as president in the history of our country. BTW, the Office of the President Elect has been around since 1963...not O's idea.
Ummm, think we should be concering ourselves
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Ummm...you surely know!!
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