Ummm, this may come as a surprise to you

• War on terror -- - MT in PA
  • Moderate muslims by definition have already been "won over." So what exactly is - Lu
    • did not elevate HIMSELF - O
      • You got that right. - nm
    • When you look at the sky.....(sm) - Just the big bad
    • Wrong, wrong, wrong, clueless Lu. - Every single last word you utter.
    • Obama won moderates over - O won
      • Only the open minded and forward thinking - Yes He Can
      • Um, that's my point. He won them over and - Lu
        • Ummm, this may come as a surprise to you - but...sm
          • You're the one not getting it. Obama doesn't not have to do much of anything - Lu
            • Yep...babbling idiots with thrills running up their legs... - sam
            • for Lu: - mb
        • I am talking about moderate muslims - I am
          • Geez...where do you guys get this stuff?...(sm) - Just the big bad
            • Right, - Yes
          • Sure you were! Now, that makes a big - difference! Child, get
            • Are you not able to distinguish between - satellites and missles?
              • Actually.....(sm) - Just the big bad
                • I understand the relationship between the two. - But...sm
            • Not all Muslims - You
      • You are in dreamland for sure!....Tell - that line to the thousands
  • remind me of Elizabeth Hasselbeck - You...
  • War on terror - ej
    • Whom do you mean by 'they? - Whom.
    • To poster below -- still think I'm batting zero? - MT in PA
      • Yup. A great big goose egg. - Ms. Hasselbeck.
      • I think you misunderstood not only - Excuse me.....
  • Obama does not use Bush's phrases, - Change
    • And all hold hands and sing kumbaya.... - pleeeze!!
    • Oh, he's bringing change all right.....LOL. - sam
  • Twisting words - Truthseeker
    • What you call twisting words is - MT in PA
      • For MT in PA - Your problem
        • oooh that's an insightful post -- - MT in PA
          • I agree with you. - It doesn't take much insight to
      • Let's break this down for you, MT. - O has explained this strategy before. sm
        • Yes, exactly...By winning over the moderates - Exactly right........
      • Backpedaling - Truthseeker
        • Retraction on the PO comment -- - MT in PA
          • How many need to tell you that you did - before you get it?
            • Apparently more than you! - MT in PA
              • So far, you are dewaling with at least - 5 or 6 different posters....
                • Not really, probably only about 3 or 4 - MT in PA
    • I agree with the truthseeker......... - Yes,....
      • That would be a good question for Obama - MT in PA
        • obviously he meant that he wants - No,
          • ohhh -- thanks for clearing that up - MT in PA
            • That would be English...sm - Just the big bad
              • LOL! Thanks for saying what I was thinking, JBB. - NM
            • For MT in PA: It is you who does not understand... - It is
              • No, I actually said that in a much later post -- - MT in PA
                • So far you are batting zero. - Nobody seems to agree with you. sm
                  • And you think I can't read -- Look below - MT in PA
                    • Yeah, MT, and usually it is the same - poster using multiple
                      • but not like you - right? using no name - MT in PA
                        • Same Poster--Multiple Screen Names - Truthseeker
                          • I never post under anything but my name.... - sam
                            • and by the way truthseeker.... - sam
                          • ROFLMAO --- I am in no way, shape or form - MT in PA
                    • What are you talking about? - What
                      • dunno -- musting being the posts are - MT in PA
                    • No one gives a flip about retreat. - But ignorant bigotry...
                      • And now we revert to personal attacks - MT in PA
                        • This is always how she ends up when - she runs out of come-
                        • Stating the obvious - does not in any way
                        • For MT in PA: You should, like President O who has a formidable personality, - You
                          • I actually did admit a retraction above - MT in PA
                          • So true. - Bravo. nm
    • I second that emotion. - Exactomento.
  • Moderate Muslims - stereotyping
  • Moderate Muslims are not terrorists. - SM
    • I think you should reread the post -- - MT in PA
      • No....I had it right too...(sm) - Just the big bad
        • No -- Obama was asked about the - MT in PA
          • Ummmmm....no...(sm) - Just the big bad
            • Again, I agree with the Truthseeker.... - Yes,
            • oh thank you so much for - MT in PA
              • Just goes to show ya - sm
      • I re-read your post, and I stand by my post. - SM
        • okay -- so you agree that I didn't - MT in PA
        • Why did O shut down Gitmo? Bet it is not - for the reasons you think.nm
      • Read? They read what they WANT to read into it. - -and negotiating with terrorists is nuts.nm
        • O said nothing about negotiating with terrorists. - Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
  • fighting fire with fire doesn't work - a constituent
    • You think we can talk to those who would rather - cut off our heads? Get real and wake up!! nm
      • what I think - a constituent
  • Moderate Muslims aren't the terrorists...(sm) - Just the big bad
    • See my post above -- nm - MT in PA

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Two Democrats today commented on leftists like you and several others on this board.  I sure do agree with them.

Mike Kinsley, lifelong Democrat, on Pelosi’s pathetic platform:

For national security in general, the Democrats’ plan is so according-to-type that you cringe with embarrassment: It’s mostly about new cash benefits for veterans. Regarding Iraq specifically, the Democrats’ plan has two parts. First, they want Iraqis to “assum[e] primary responsibility for securing and governing their country.” Then they want “responsible redeployment” (great euphemism) of American forces.

Older readers may recognize this formula. It’s Vietnamization—the Nixon-Kissinger plan for extracting us from a previous mistake. But Vietnamization was not a plan for victory. It was a plan for what was called “peace with honor” and is now known as “defeat.”

Maybe “A New Direction for America” is just a campaign document—although it seems to have had no effect at all on the campaign. My fear is that the House Democrats may try to use it as a basis for governing.

Orson Scott Card, lifelong Democrat, on the only issue that matters in this election:

I say this as a Democrat, for whom the Republican domination of government threatens many values that I hold to be important to America’s role as a light among nations.

But there are no values that matter to me that will not be gravely endangered if we lose this war. And since the Democratic Party seems hellbent on losing it — and in the most damaging possible way — I have no choice but to advocate that my party be kept from getting its hands on the reins of national power, until it proves itself once again to be capable of recognizing our core national interests instead of its own temporary partisan advantages.

To all intents and purposes, when the Democratic Party jettisoned Joseph Lieberman over the issue of his support of this war, they kicked me out as well. The party of Harry Truman and Daniel Patrick Moynihan — the party I joined back in the 1970s — is dead. Of suicide.

With all that lynch mob mentality going on, people are waking up to the real deal.  Even a lot of very prominent pubs are turning away, advising JM to dump that noose around his neck because she is dragging him down.  After all, he did create the monster.  I say, what goes around . . .

and your husband will be home for the birth of your first child.  I admire that you accept that it is his job.  You are a brave young lady.

Just a coincidence, my favorite Kiger Mustang mare is expecting her first foal on Feb. 21 so I'm going to be a "granny."  LOL

Take care of yourself and that baby!  I'll "argue" with you anytime.  LOL

Did you read the other story on that page regarding the U.S. plans to invade Venezuela?  Is the administration so stupid to think that people will actually believe that troops were sent there for R&R?  Gimme a break!

It's really a shame when a socialist leader has more honesty and integrity than an American president.  Given the choice, who would you believe, Bush or Chavez?  Not much of a contest, is it?

And, as usual, you twist my words in order to attack my posts.  I wrote, *It's too bad that these *rotten apples* are making the majority of the good military look bad.*

Shame on YOU for not thinking this is horrible. 

So you don't think waterboarding is illegal -- even though it goes directly against at least 4 existing treaties?  If we aren't going to be held accountable by treaties that WE agree to, what's the point of being in them?

This is actually where I do disagree with Obama.  He doesn't want to make this into a partisan thing and is seemingly not too interested in prosecutions.  My opinion is that its not partisan to enforce existing laws.  As far as I'm concerned the whole bunch from the Shrub gang need to be prosecuted.  Maybe we can just extradite them to Spain.  That would work for me.

"what right does the government have to take MY money and give to an organization like ACORN to pass out to democratic candidates for their campaigns"

Well, that was straight out of O'Reilly's mouth.  LOL.  In fact, I'm pretty sure that's just about exactly what he said last night. 

So you think that there is a direct funnel that takes our tax dollars and just hands them over to Acorn?  Here's a news flash --- as the ladies noted last night on Billo's show, they are a nonprofit organization and have to apply and compete for grants and loans just like everyone else.

As for whether they are completely on the up and up, I have no idea, but I don't think I'll base that judgment on the commentary of a right-wing show host.

Exactly how is it that Fox's ratings prove that O'Reilly is not far right?  LOL.. Ratings have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.

However, since you mentioned Obama and fulfilling his promises, it may not turn out like you think.  For the most part people who voted for him are pretty happy with how he's handling the economy and foreign affairs.  However, there are a few things that have gotten to a lot of dems.  For example, he hasn't gotten rid of "don't ask don't tell" yet.  He hasn't fulfilled promises he made to the LGBT community.  He's carrying on seemingly with "indefinite detention."  He ran on a platform that promised these things would be fixed.  Granted, he hasn't been there long and can still come around on these things.  However, if he doesn't my guess is that the country will go even farther to the left than they did this time.  Now that is what you should be worried about, not Fox ratings.

And just as a side note, if he gets healthcare reform through, it will be decades before a pub sets foot in the White House.