Well said - you got that one right.

Posted By: New Englander on 2009-04-07
In Reply to: except that most gays are about INCLUSION, not - EXCLUSION. (S/M)

Couldn't have said it better.

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Iowa high court legalizes gay marriage in state - sm
- Way to go, VERMONT! They've legalized it, too. - YAYYY!!!!
  - Knew there was a reason why I love Vermont - New Englander
  - No - shame on you VT legislators!!! - Vermonter against SSM
    - Shame on YOU, anti-SSM... it's not about - being "in", it's about EQUALITY.
      - Well, just so YOU know, - sm
        It is about what the PEOPLE want - and they wanted this - New Englander
        They may have voted for what some - Trigger Happy
        An overwhelming majority of the country does not agree - with SSM.
        Here is part of the article: - What does this say about the system???
    - Agree. The whole thing is just sickening. - nm
    - Maybe all the biblethumpers in the US should - just form their own walled-off state.
      - You seem to forget that when put to a vote... - Kendra
        No, the big-money bunch in Orange County had - a lot to do with it. Ah-nold loves them -S/M
        I am originally from California and personally know... - Kendra
        Actually our representatives do represent the people - New Englander
        And special rights for - Patty
        What about special rights for the 'morally confused?' - Like NOT TAXING CHURCHES?
      - Maybe all the homosexuals should do that. - Better idea
        except that most gays are about INCLUSION, not - EXCLUSION. (S/M)
        Not a group I'd ever want to be included in. - LOL
        Not to worry. I don't think they'd be particularly - happy to have you.
        Definitely! - Patty
        Come on out of that closet! - yeah right
        You're sick and disgusting. - nm
        And you - yeah right
        People like you are the reason - sm
        Straight people being - ya know
        I haven't seen any - Patty
        Do you think you've been responding to - sm
        Umm...No - yeah right
        Oh yes.. - Patty
        You are right - sm
        If I did not feel - yeah right
        A Christian according to you - sm
        Being called gay is an insult, plain and simple. - sm
        and being called straight is an insult since - see message - New Englander
        Homosexuals are NOT being - Patty
        Perhaps... - yeah right
        Keep it up, you're just burying your cause - sm
        And what cause would that be? - yeah right
        I suspect that it is the - Patty
        I'm a straight person who would rather be called gay - any day over 'religious fanatic'.
        They'll NEVER - Patty
        Well said - you got that one right. - New Englander
        No they don't - Patty
        Honey, you have NO idea what "forced" means. - But try looking in the mirror sometime.
- I am and have always been a democrat, but - sm
  - Then how about - me
    - As long as you do it in the closet & not - Personally,
      - Good then because - me
        Why on earth would a gay - sm
        ahhh...but you don't know this - me
        According to homosexual protocol - Patty
        Why does a child - Patty
    - Great... - Patty
- I personally don't agree with this. - Trigger Happy
  - No bashing from me. I agree with you. - nm
- My personal feelings aside,,, - Kendra
- Sorry, but I so disagree with this. - I guess I have too strong of morals and values. NM
  - So if someone disagrees with you on... - Marmann
    - What you said, in a nutshell, is how a few men in a - religious hierarchy have exerted control over - S/
      - Religious hierarchy... - Patty
        "Heterosexual henchmen?" Now that is a riot. - !
        Oops! I meant "homosexual". We already know - there are plenty of hetero henchmen everywhere.
  - Also, too bad of grammar to post... - Galloping grammarian
    - OMG. I disagree! - Is that better police grammar?
      - Who the heck is Rick Warren and who cares what he thinks - me
        Rick Warren? The pastor who prayed - during Obama's inauguration?
        I think he's the guy who wrote - A.Nonymous
      - Trying really hard to think - GG
        Whatever. - LOL. No message below.
  - This country needs more love and equal rights, and - less of the so-called "moral values".
    - you can live your life any way you want!! - sm
      - Nobody's forcing their values on you. - Yebbut
    - Which is exactly why our country is the way it is - no one cares about values anymore
      - and you would NEVER do anything that - "feels good" -- right?
        Feels good! - ........ MsMT
        Being kind to other people feels good, too. - So does freedom from bible dogma.
        Why don't you let your kids decide for themselves - mt
        The "gay" lifestyle - Patty
        As Yoda might say - - "A piece of work you are."
      - Where do babies come from? 1 man and 1 woman - I couldn't agree more
        No one's "changing the tradition of marriage". - Why not allow more people to celebrate it?
        Marriage is for one man and one woman - sm
        Says who? Your bible, which is nothing more than - an ancient fairytale?
        My point exactly - New Englander
        What people do in the privacy - Patty
        Exactly - just as your viewpoint is being forced - upon others who dont share it.
        Yeah, it works both ways... - sm
        And I think I recall reading about sperm doners - New Englander
        huh? - sm
        Nobody is telling you anything - New Englander
        I could be discriminated against also - Patty
        You certainly can chose with whom - Yebbut
        Then, neither - Patty
        You see my point, and you don't. - Yebbut
        Oh but I strongly disagree with you - Patty
        Ummm, don't play the race card here - Patty didn't bring it up, New Englander did. nm
        Wrong! In the words of Patty - Yebbut
        Wrong - Patty
        And so I am not permitted to - Yebbut
        Respond away. - Patty
        Well, excuuuuuse me! - Yebbut
        BIGOTRY is ugly, even when camouflaged - by bible scripture.
        Not if your bigotted - Patty
        Bigotry is bigotry. And "sin" is a subjective concept. - Nothing more, nothing less.
        your choice of words in this post is offensive - I'd highly consider how you choose your words
        Homosexual" marriage" is very - Patty
        Actually scientists have found a gene...... - Janeyy
        Calling someone a homo is a derogative term - and you certainly do understand that
        Your "marriages" - Patty
        You definitely have a chip on your shoulder. - nm
        And that gives you the right to call me a homo????? - and you certainly do understand that
        How is saying you have a chip on your - sm
        Because.... - and you certainly do understand that
        I don't think "homo" is slanderous - but rather a shortening of the word
        Exactly. Is 'hetero' offensive? - nm
        No because - see message - and you certainly do understand that
        I would think - Patty
        No you are offensive - and you certainly do understand that
        Coffee anyone? - outside the closet
        You're right. They cover their ears, close their eyes, - and flap their mouths. It's - S/M
        LOL :-) - New Englander
        Thank you outside the closet - and you certainly do understand that
        I find homosexuality - Patty
        It's often been observed that those who spew - the most hatred, often have latent tendencies them
        corr: " latent tendencies themselves". - N/M
        If you happen to be unconscious - Yebbut
        Excellent - thanks - New Englander
        Yep, God discriminates - Patty
        See? There it is again. Using God as an - excuse to bully other people.
        They'll NEVER be really married - Patty
        The ignorance that still abounds in the US - in this day and age is shocking.
        Until one of them leaves the toilet seat up - Mythbuster
        Now this is about the...well I'm too shocked to even think of a word - hmmm
        Marriage - Patty
        SURE they can! Use your imagination! - [- giggles -]
        Sexual intercourse - Patty
        Is that all you ever think about? - ?
        Ah, just as Bill Clinton - Yebbut
        Huh? Let's stay on topic here. Bill Clinton and his intern have no relevance to this thread??nm - Male and female = marriage. nm
        He sure does have a relevance to this thread - are approving marriage of gays and lesbians
        Exactly.......the parts don't fit and for good reason!!! - nm
        Sex is just a small part of marriage. What marriage - is REALLY about is love and support.
        I loved and supported - Patty
        What if not only can you not conceive - Just wondering
        Do you kiss your kids with that potty mouth? - WOW!
        Quick question about the "sex" marriage thing... - Janey
        I don't think they are the ones who are confused, here. - Topaz
        I am not at all threatened! - ........ MsMT
        I think you DO feel threatened. If a same-sex - couple gets married, it - S/M
        You can't compare race vs. a deviant lifestyle. - nm
        YOUR almighty lifestyle is what's deviant. - Do you really believe God approves of you?
        Well-put, msMT! - nm
        But it IS a sin - Patty
        Says who? You? - Where did you get your authority?
        The way you are treating others IS a sin - me
        I'm not cruel to anyone - Patty
        But God doesn't say that - me
        Using that belief to try to restrict the freedom of - other individuals IS cruel.
        You evidently have no idea - the parts fit just fine - are approving marriage of gays and lesbians
        Loving someone - Patty
        people like you are why I'm glad more states - are approving marriage of gays and lesbians
        All the states can approve - Patty
        If everyone had your mindset, most likely - see msg
        No discrimination - Patty
        A blaring example of the term, "blind faith". - s/m
        Then looks like your gonna be weeping - are approving marriage of gays and lesbians
        what's really married? - so true
        In 2002 I was asked to arrange - Yebbut
      - It will only get worse... - Patty
        I really feel sorry for you. It must be hard to go - through life so afraid of things - S/M
        No hatred - Patty
        Obviously no free will, either. Brainwashing: - now THAT is a sin. -nm
        Well, it keeps the population down - Yebbut
  - if you disagree - wowzer
- It's about time and other states should follow - New Englander
  - One really can't help - Yebbut
    - Attraction - Patty
      - In the case of children and/or goats - Yebbut
        Goats can't consent... - Patty
        Neither can little children, and look how many have - been the victims of the CLERGY.
        Yes, you TRY to make a case for anything - Yebbut
  - Love and sex... - Patty
    - What do you mean "normal"?????? - New Englander
      - So - be it sadomasochism, bondage, strange - fetishes, even abuse, it's "normal" - S/M
        your way off base and don't know what your talking about - New Englander
        Sorry, I must have worded that wrong. I don't - (sm)
        Thanks - no offense taken - New Englander
        Ah ha... - Patty
        So what happened to you? Violated by a priest? - Jess Wonderin'
      - Not to normal people's thinking. - Patty
        Thank you for letting me have a tantrum - here it is - New Englander
        Wow - Patty
        See - that's part of the problem with most organized - religion. It discourages open mindesness.
        No, it's called faith - Patty
        You forgot to add the words, "blind" and "bigoted". - Not a good thing to be faithful to.
        And luckily millions of others believe in marriage for all human kind - New Englander
        The Creator - Patty
        Where you get that idea - - New Englander
        Yah know, I believe there IS something - scholar
        But...........he created homosexuals, too. - And I think he loves them.
      - Sorry bout the two typos - New Englander
        Hon, don't worry about getting your - MTfromLA
        The earth has been "replenished" far too many - times. Another few decades - see msg.
        Sorry to see you still live in the stone age - New Englander
- It's about time! Though it IS a bit embarrassing for - Calif. that a middle-America state beat us to it.

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