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Well, the truth is probably hard to bear. sm

Posted By: sm on 2005-08-24
In Reply to: so leave - bleeding heart liberal

Until the administrator asks me to leave, I will just keep posting.  I am not making personal attacks against posters. I am following the guidelines.  Besides, liberals are the turn tail chickens.  I don't let people run me off!


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    You bear Thomas, we bear Ginsburg.
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    Bear in mind....
    it is not the hothead in the white house who "pushes the button." It is your duly elected Congress. If the Dem majority can keep their collective fingers off the button it doesn't matter who is President. He cannot go to war by himself. I cannot see Congress, after Iraq, EVER agreeing to go to war unless we are attacked again in a very aggressive way and there is no doubt who did the attacking. But, whatever happens...it will be the decision of your duly elected Congress...not the President, whoever he or she may be.
    We do have the right to bear arms in this
    I said that because the poster made a comment and guns and ammo, so I told poster many people have that...what is the big deal? If you don't own firearms, that's your business but we do still have the right to have guns in our homes.
    Yes, they do need an egg. And a woman to bear the child.
    talking about 2 men who want a child. The surrogate only has to be a woman with a uterus. Her sexual orientation, and even her marital status, do not matter. That does not constitute a 'sexual relationship', though. She is artificially inseminated. And of course there is also adoption.
    Now you're a polar bear lover?
    xx
    "we" blame Bush for what he did wrong, sorry if you cannot bear to....sm
    take the blinders off. I thought Bill Clinton was a great Preident and humanitarian, but a LOUSY husband, but the country did not marry Clinton, and the Pubs with Ken Star and his WITCH HUNT went after Bill for what he did in his private sexual life that had nothing to do with his job as President. Wow, we impeached the guy and spent millions of tax dollars doing it!!! Yay! But he still led us one of the most prosperous times in American History budget-wise, and if he is kinky in his bedroom, so what? Do you want someone in your bedroom? What do you guys use as a measure for success? Blind loyalty was what REALLY got all the people to drink the Kool-Aid down in Jonestown, and with all the denial about the Bush years, I feel like we are down there in that jungle.
    Did you see that she had a polar bear lapel pin on today? Good job Sarah! nm
    .
    Someone to rule over us for her life time? I dont think so. Clarence Thomas is enough to bear with

    Miers' Answer Raises Questions



  • Legal experts find a misuse of terms in her Senate questionnaire 'terrible' and 'shocking.'

  • By David G. Savage, Times Staff Writer


    WASHINGTON — Asked to describe the constitutional issues she had worked on during her legal career, Supreme Court nominee Harriet E. Miers had relatively little to say on the questionnaire she sent to the Senate this week.

    And what she did say left many constitutional experts shaking their heads.

    At one point, Miers described her service on the Dallas City Council in 1989. When the city was sued on allegations that it violated the Voting Rights Act, she said, the council had to be sure to comply with the proportional representation requirement of the Equal Protection Clause.

    But the Supreme Court repeatedly has said the Constitution's guarantee of equal protection of the laws does not mean that city councils or state legislatures must have the same proportion of blacks, Latinos and Asians as the voting population.

    That's a terrible answer. There is no proportional representation requirement under the equal protection clause, said New York University law professor Burt Neuborne, a voting rights expert. If a first-year law student wrote that and submitted it in class, I would send it back and say it was unacceptable.

    Stanford law professor Pamela Karlan, also an expert on voting rights, said she was surprised the White House did not check Miers' questionnaire before sending it to the Senate.

    Are they trying to set her up? Any halfway competent junior lawyer could have checked the questionnaire and said it cannot go out like that. I find it shocking, she said.

    White House officials say the term proportional representation is amenable to different meanings. They say Miers was referring to the requirement that election districts have roughly the same number of voters.

    In the 1960s, the Supreme Court adopted the one person, one vote concept as a rule under the equal protection clause. Previously, rural districts with few voters often had the same clout in legislatures as heavily populated urban districts. Afterward, their clout was equal to the number of voters they represented. But voting rights experts do not describe this rule as proportional representation, which has a specific, different meaning.

    Either Miers misunderstood what the equal protection clause requires, or she was using loose language to say something about compliance with the one-person, one-vote rule, said Richard L. Hasen, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles who specializes in election law. Either way, it is very sloppy and unnecessary. Someone should have caught that.

    Proportional representation was a focus of debate in the early 1980s. Democrats and liberal activists were pressing for Congress to change the Voting Rights Act to ensure minorities equal representation on city councils, state legislatures and in the U.S. House.

    They were responding to a 1980 case in which the Supreme Court upheld an election system in Mobile, Ala., that had shut out blacks from political power. The city was governed by a council of three members, all elected citywide. About two-thirds of voters were white and one-third black, but whites held all three seats.

    The Supreme Court said Mobile's system was constitutional, so long as there was no evidence it had been created for a discriminatory purpose.

    The equal protection clause does not require proportional representation, the court said in a 6-3 decision. In dissent, Justice Thurgood Marshall said the decision gave blacks the right to cast meaningless ballots.

    In response, Congress moved to change the Voting Rights Act to permit challenges to election systems that had the effect of excluding minorities from power. The Reagan administration opposed those efforts, saying they would lead to a proportional representation rule.

    Congress adopted a hazy compromise in 1982. It said election systems could be challenged if minorities were denied a chance to elect representatives of their choice…. Provided that nothing in this section establishes a right to have members of a protected class elected in numbers equal to their proportion of the population.

    This law put pressure on cities such as Dallas and Los Angeles and many states to redraw their electoral districts in areas with concentrations of black or Latino voters. The number of minority members of Congress doubled in the early 1990s after districts were redrawn.

    In Dallas, Miers supported a move to create City Council districts so black and Latino candidates would have a better chance of winning seats.

    She came to believe it was important to achieve more black and Hispanic representation, Hasen said. She could have a profound impact as a justice if she brought that view to the court. So from the perspective of the voting rights community, they could do a lot worse than her.

    White House spokeswoman Dana Perino also emphasized that Miers' experience was more important than her terminology.

    Ms. Miers, when confirmed, will be the only Supreme Court Justice to have actually had to comply with the Voting Rights Act, she said.


    Actually I don't think it's fair that smokers bear the brunt of paying for children's healt
    And no, I'm not a current smoker. It just seems unfair that a single group should pay for most of the costs. Why not tax soda pop or junk snack food? That's contributing to the childhood obesity episode - and poor health - so why not make those products pay for SCHIP?
    The truth sounds rude when put bluntly but still is the truth. nm
    !!!! hahaha
    Liberal truth vs. Conservative truth.
    x
    The truth, the whole truth and nothing but...It's probably the biggest...sm
    reason why I am voting democrat...they seem more honest than the the republicans and it looks like people are starting to get smart and *bailin' Palin*... We don't need to keep hearing her *greatest hits" version of her acceptance speech over and over and McSame's POW story...that was then, this is now...we need REAL change and we need it NOW. I don't need someone to push the red button, I need someone to fix the economy!
    Truth? The truth is she is nuts!
    nm
    Hard to believe
    that there are still people in this country who can't see this, who still worship Bush no matter how badly he disregards the Constitution and American freedom.  Our forefathers must be turning in their graves.
    It is hard to believe, but a lot believe whatever sm
    they hear on TV news, etc. They have heard the term our democracy so much, everyone believes this is our form of government, but it is not. America is a Constitutional Republic. Things are said enough and you eventually believe them. This is how propaganda works.
    not so hard to believe

    from http://www.infowars.net/articles/may2006/100506clinton.htm


    The Clintons and the Bushes have been known to vacation together in more recent times. Earlier this year on CBS, Clinton revealed that he looks upon the Bushes as a surrogate family, and how Barbara Bush refers to him as her son. Is this really a picture of two distinct and opposed political ideologies pitted against one another?


    You know, if you look hard enough

    on the internet you can find "facts" to back up just about any ridiculous claim from two-headed monsters, to ape babies to all sorts of conspiracy theories.  There's even a cult that worship their own stool (yes I am not making this up) and I'm sure this cult has multiple references and "facts" to back up their beliefs in preserving their feces forever. 


    But all that doesn't make it true.  And the discriminating and intelligent person should be able to tell feces from fact, but apparently you can't.


    Who says they don't fit, maybe you are just not trying hard enough! nm
    nm
    Must have been hard..........sm
    to hold that little baby, knowing it was thrown away by her mother and had to suffer such consequences. I sometimes think situations like that are worse than even the partial birth abortion.
    Hard to believe

    Question is who is behind him and who put him where he is.  This is an old article but the issues are still current.  And this is from..The Pakistan Daily (not America)


    http://www.daily.pk/world/84-worldnews/6726-barack-obama-is-not-a-us-citizen.html


     


    Not hard to believe
    First, I find trying to associate Sarah Palin with this lady is ridiculous.

    Obama's associations not so ridiculous, especially when there are pictures, witnesses, etc.

    Second, it is not so hard to believe that Sarah and Todd have not met these people. My mom and dad did not meet my inlaws until 2 weeks before our wedding when we had a dinner. And my mom's parents didn't meet her inlaws until maybe a week before her wedding.
    Trying really hard to think
    why I would care what Rick Warren thinks. 
    This is not hard to
    In the view of Christians:

    1. God does not condone evil, nor does He protect those who commit evil acts from the consequences of those actions.

    2. There is a responsibility to protect the innocent that supercedes any conflicting obligation that might exist toward those who would kill them.

    3. God was much harsher toward the oppressors of the innocent than anything the CIA has ever done. Try reading about the plagues He visited upon Egypt if you want to talk "torture".

    I could go on, but there's no point. I'll just say thank God for Christians; a lot of people are alive in Los Angeles because we were able to disrupt a plan that was already in motion. If left up to the faux moralists (who would torture their own grandmothers in a minute if they thought it would save their own lives), those people would be dead. But hey - no AL Qaida would have had to look at a caterpillar!
    You are very welcome. Its hard sm
    to keep up with when you work for them much less the general public.
    Yep, it's not hard to believe that the neocon
    Limberger is a liar in the midst of all of his drama how can he keep a story straight?

    He probably forgets half of it anyway, that's the drug effect.
    Laughing so hard I go...
     into silent laughing, mode, thinking I will fall off my chair but I don't. That's how much I am laughing at this. He did make an appearance and say something, however lukewarm it was, I will say that for him, more than others do when they actually do kill/lie/out people.  Chavez, on the other hand, is giving oil away, giving billions to help Cuba and The Dominican Republic with oil prices which have soared to $4 a gallon in the islands. It is part of what he calls Petrocaribe. He is helping to rebuild decrepit refineries in the islands as well. Same goes for his own country where you can fill your tank for about $2. Whatever his politics are; he is sharing the wealth of his country with, omg!!! real everyday people and poor everyday people. What an evil dangerous man. I think we should kill him.  Want to really annoy a Republican...share whether or not the person/country with whom you are sharing meets your own moral criteria for giving, you know, the worthy poor versus the unworthy poor. And before anyone starts in with Chavez beomg a communist, socialist, a danger to the United States tripe, I have one word...China.
    Not really that hard to grasp.
    A great article about the Gulf of Tonkin incident can be read here:

    http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/
    g/gu/gulf_of_tonkin_incident.htm

    But to answer more plainly, the point is that Johnson in all ways was a dead ringer for today's Republicans. He did not represent the Democratic ideals then or now. Interesting snip of the article:

    Most Americans know little of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. Historians have shown that the Johnson administration provoked the incident with the intention of crafting a pretext for making overt the American covert involvement in Vietnam.

    Sound like anyone you know? Sound like two Texas politicians might have owned the same playbook? Should either one of them be admired for that? I can certainly say no!

    So when are those on the Wrong Right going to place blame where blame is clearly due on BOTH sides of the aisle?
    I find it hard to believe you don't see it.

    I would say a big no on that one - why are people trying so hard to get her in
    I haven't figured out yet why people are trying so hard to get her into office. She should go back to being a Senator from NY. She even said earlier in her campaign that being a Senator is a very good job. I have not figured out (and I really have tried to be objectionable) as to why people want her back in there. Doesn't anyone remember what it was like when the Clintons were in before. I know that speaker of the house doesn't get her "in" the white house, but you have to remember that if something happens to President and VP then speaker of the house is next in line. That would make me very nervous and I'd be constantly looking over my shoulder as to what she and Bill are up to. I think she should go back to being a senator or congress person and leave it at that.
    Its hard to calm down
    You know when Kerry ran against Bush I did not feel this way. When Gore ran it was a little different because he was still associated with the clintons and I didn't not want a Clinton 3rd term. I just can't understand how someone can say something so shameful and hurtful. I can't even imagine what Obama's wife is thinking. Probably one of her biggest fears, and then along comes her husband's oponent and says something like this? Just really gets the blood pressure going. Some of the media is trying to make excuses for her but there is just no excuse. I wouldn't think so harshly if she had come out right away and said in no way did she mean what came out of her mouth, but she waits til the end of the day and then tries to cover it up and doesn't even apologize. Despicable and sleezy!!!!!!
    I really find it hard to believe
    the Clintons when I know deep down they don't want him for prez either.  How can you endorse someone when you tried so hard to put them down and show they weren't right for the job in the first place?
    What is so hard about answering a
    nm
    That may be, but it is hard for me to understand....sm
    after being a prisoner of war and saying he was tortured that he can say that torture of prisoners is OK. This only puts our soldiers in harm's way.
    See. Was that so hard? It is up to anyone who reads it...
    what to take from it.
    And I think he works very hard trying to ...
    take down a God he doesn't even believe exists by ridiculing people who know He exists. If God doesn't exist, what difference does it make? Methinks he doth protest too much...lol. Lotta guilt there from somewhere. lol.
    No, what's hard is not getting banned from

    I work hard and get no help from anybody.
    nm
    It is very hard to believe this senario when...sm
    she says she is an MT and between she and her husband are earning 24,000 a year and working their butts off. Something just doesn't add up. She is the one that brought the subject up about what she and her husband make. Her opinion of what working her butt of means and mine is very different. 40 hours a week as an MT even with minimum production and a the lowest cents per line would easily add up to more than 18-20,000 a year. Hello.
    It is hard to believe that so many people
    can put so much hope, trust, adoration and committment, thus making a god of this man. It is plain sickening.
    hard hearted
    Wow, I am offended, I am actually very soft hearted and concerned for many people and causes, but I guess, since I don't agree with you that makes me EVIL. You guy are too much, lol!
    At least now we know why he has been pushing so hard
    Vote early and vote often.


    no no no. It is hard to tell how people
    mean things when typing and I read my post and thought maybe it came across negatively!
    Still feel for you, it must be hard to keep
    up such a happy facade with such hate and bitterness inside of you. I can just imagine you hunkered down over your keyboard, directing your anger and bitterness to those out in cyberspace who don't think like you. There are so many larger issues in this world that are much more important than gay marriage. The time will come when it will be accepted. Until then, why not turn your negative energy into something positive instead of dwelling on something the majority of us don't want.
    Oh no, Mr. Bill. Another BC die-hard?
    No wonder you are so nauseated by the countdown. Suddenly your posts make perfect sense, even though there is no logical connection between the BC blowhards and reality. So much for the open-minded thingy.

    The precise reference I was making was "methinks thou doest protest too much," or in some transliterations, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." I was using the phrase rather loosely in an attempt to avoid the pounding libs often take for being all elite if they quote Shakespeare or try to use his Bardisms. It's from Hamlet. Doth and doest have been used interchangeably in literature, as have you and thou. Like any quotation, it takes on its fullest meaning when it appears within its context.


    Why do you just ignore the hard
    the gutter? Girl, you need to get a life! Oh, that's right, you said you did already. Transcribing 3500 lines a day, then the rest of a day stirring the pot on an internet forum just isn't my idea of a life.
    It was hard to watch that...
    It was like watching a cockroach squirm around after being sprayed with Raid.
    I find it hard to believe....#7
    that Canada would want to inherit our problems. Mexico? Well, so many of them live here already.......I really can't see them combining governments cooperatively - our country can't even get along (dems and pubs).
    You would have a hard time.......... sm
    convincing most schools that they need to teach basic good values to students. They would argue, and I tend to agree with them, that they have their hands full teaching children the educational skills needed to be successful in school and college. More and more is being required of our children at a younger and younger age. Most of the teaching revolves around learning the skills necessary to pass the standardized tests required in most states. Here in Texas, TAKS instruction takes up the majority of the school day. My son has a 2-hour math class and 2 separate language arts classes, both subjects of which are TAKS-required and required to pass the TAKS inorder to matriculate to the next grade.

    I believe, and I believe most teaches would agree with me, that morals begin at home and are best taught by example and not by a teach-and-test method. I live in what is considered to be an "economically depressed" area and the attitudes of a good number of our students is abysmal at best, reflecting the attitudes of their own unemployed, welfare-recipient parent(s). Until parents' attitudes and values change, neither will the children's, and they are the ones who will suffer.
    It's not that hard to be better than the rest of you.nm
    x
    I really feel sorry for you. It must be hard to go
    that you don't understand.

    You ARE right about goodness prevailing - that's why gays and lesbians are finally being granted the right to be legally married, and live happy, fulfilled lives together! That's why Iowa decided it was time to be kind and fair, and do what's right, and grant their fellow human beings these simple rights.

    But I feel pity for you, because the depth of your hatred towards a group of people you don't understand, simply because they happen to be different from you (in only ONE, very insignificant way), must really be quite paralyzing. I just can't imagine going through life worrying about whether 'certain people' are going to be allowed to 'join the club', and how that is somehow going to diminish it's value.


    Hard to imagine how this could

      **'escalate violence' in the region since nobody has safe in those waters for years.  Should we be like the woman abused by her husband for years, who doesn't want him arrested because she doesn't want to 'make him mad'  ?


    So these lawless jerks hijack, steal, kidnap, threaten murder, then swear vengeance when we oppose them?  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy


    ......One of the pirates pointed an AK-47 at the back of Phillips, who was tied up and in "imminent danger" of being killed when the commander of the nearby USS Bainbridge made the split-second decision to order his men to shoot, Vice Adm. Bill Gortney said. The lifeboat was being towed by the Bainbridge at the time, he said.


    A fourth pirate was in discussions with naval authorities about Phillips' fate when the rescue took place. He is in U.S. custody and could face could face life in a U.S. prison.


    **"This could escalate violence in this part of the world, no question about it," said Gortney, the commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command.


    Abdullahi Lami, one of the pirates holding the Greek ship anchored in the Somali town of Gaan, said: "Every country will be treated the way it treats us. In the future, America will be the one mourning and crying," he told The Associated Press. "We will retaliate (for) the killings of our men.......