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What do you expect? You just come to antagonize not discuss.

Posted By: ??? on 2006-03-10
In Reply to: Wow, what a welcome!! - my 2 cents




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Not to antagonize but...
Obama was not yet in the Senate when Congress voted to authorize the use of force in the fall of 2002. He campaigned against it but we see how that works .......
Would expect Obama to take high road. To expect this
One of many issues of valid concern is the fact that Palin would accept this nomination knowing full well (or maybe not) that when the broadcast media get done with this, Bristol's entire life for at least the next 5 years or so, will be red meat for publications like the Enquirer. Judgement. Priorities? The cat's out of the bag now, and I say that with no joy whatsover. In fact, across party lines, left or right, anybody with red blood coursing through beating hearts would stop and for one single moment experience the pain that poor girl must be feeling. Despite this, her mother has put her in the position to put a smiley face on no matter what, or go under the witness protection program, change her name and leave the country. Fair game? Of course not. National spotlight. You bet, and there is no turning back now.
I was trying to discuss things with you

You obviously have a great hatred for our country and our president and cannot see the difference between Bush and world leaders who are set on the destruction of the United States and Israel. The Iranian president has made his intentions known about what he wants to do to Israel and the U.S. In fact, he had a nice little P.R. campaign in his country this past week detailing what he wants to do to us. If you are so naive to believe he just wants his country to have energy from nuclear plants then I guess you deviate from what much the U.S. and the rest of world thinks about Iran's intentions.

I said the nuclear option should be the last resort as I believe our president would make it, but you are so lost in your world of conspiracy theory on Bush's character and intentions that you evidently missed that part of my post.

I would like to know where you got the so-called Bush quotes. This is the first time I've heard people actually use quotes--where did those come from? I hope not a hearsay opinion piece, because that wouldn't lend much credence to those so-called quotes.

I was actually joking with you when I made the *shopping spree* remarks. I know you are much too intelligent to actually go and do that. You may, in my opinionm be a little misguided by your emotions but I know you're not that stupid. I'm sorry you cannot see humor in someone discussing this topic with you. I'm even more sorry that you feel you have to label everyone who disagrees with you as uninformed and unthinking. People will have different opinions with you on many issues but that makes them neither stupid or uninformed. Have a nice day...
I am not asking you to discuss Israel. sm

I know that it happens all the time.  I am sorry that it does.


I refuse to discuss

religion with Moonies or Scientologists.  There is just no common ground.  The same way as I refuse to discuss politics with people who actually consider Fox a news station.  They are indoctrinated and innoculated from the truth by daily coordinated talking points to distort any event (such as saying Charlie Gibson looking down his nose at SP or was too rough on her) to favor their desire to keep the corrupt repubs in power. It's a waste of my time.


 


 


Why can't I continue to discuss
You all carry on about Obama's palling around (re: believing things that simply cannot be substantiated), but you sure can't take it when someone turns around and comments on your precious heroine. How very sad for all of you who hold this vapid, undereducated, unqualified, power hungry example of hollow charm in such high esteem. Perhaps we should be discussing your judgment instead of hers.
No, I don't argue much. I discuss or
post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.  
No, I don't argue much. I discuss or

post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.  


Your idea of a reply very often isn't up for discussion. You seem to think it's the only one that matters. End of discussion.


Okay - let's discuss the $9 mac and cheese.
Personally, I love bacon crumbs on my mac and cheese. Anyone else?
But you don't do that. You only discuss the democratic past.

In order to smear it.


No talk about the 12 prior years of Reagan and Bush.


A time to dissect and discuss a war...
is after your military is at home and safe, if you want to debate it pubically. The time to discuss the war and how you as an American feel about it is in private until they are safe. If you want to discuss it while they are still at war, discuss it in town hall meetings. Discuss it at your house. Discuss it at Wal-Mart. Discuss it in your front yard. Write to your congressman. But do not do it publically while men and women are still fighting. You are entitled to your feelings and to express them. However, common courtesy, in my opinion, should keep a person from going public while men and women are still fighting. All that does is embolden the terrorists. They have said so themselves and it is pretty obvious that it does. I saw an interesting report on it this morning, how that is the number one *battle front* for AL Qaeda now...just feeding the propaganda machine with the daily stuff from the American public. Frankly, I don't think that is anything to be proud of. But that is just me.
Sam does discuss issues and gets attacked for it.
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What about parents who don't discuss with their kids?
And so you know right off, I'm not a Barack fan nor McCain fan. However, my own personal beliefs aside, I believe "it takes a village to raise a child" and there are FAR too many parents NOT doing their jobs these days, which forces schools, governments, etc. to jump in to help. I see far too many parents who'd just as soon go to the bar than raise their child. There are parents who are apathetic, and there are parents who are embarrassed or ill-informed themselves to teach their kids sex ed. I don't think sex ed is a problem at all in school, so long as it's in the context of health education and not presented to students in a biased manner of some sort. It IS how mammals reproduce and therefore does have a place in education.

God gave us free will and if you try to control the free will of someone else, how is that right? I believe in consequences of free will when someone chooses wrong, which is why we have laws in place. I don't believe it's any one person's or party's place to tell another how to live their life, period.

Personally, I'd like to see more parents do their jobs at home so gov't and schools didn't have to do it for them (and all the rest of us too as a result), and sure, ideally I'd like to see more kids abstaining from sex altogether. But I'm also a realist and know that my beliefs and willpower aren't the same as everyone else's. That's what is supposed to be great about USA.

The reality is that not all kids have the willpower to abstain in the heat of the moment, no matter WHAT their upbringing or what wonderful parents they have. As you said, it's everywhere - on TV, movies, ads, games, you name it! It's in their face now more than ever, so to ignore it and act like it won't ever happen isn't the answer, either. No, I don't know what the answer is, either, but I don't think that's it.

Also, to take away any access to sex ed and/or birth control at all is in a sense forcing the ideals/morals of one group of people on another and basically taking the free will of the other group - how do you reconcile that? I'm being sincere, as this question plagues me often when considering these issues.
I never meant to discuss the money -
my point, Kendra, was just that these kids can already be treated without their parents consent, that that part of it was nothing new.
Honey, I would glady discuss this

with you privately. Since you seem to be so well-read, as I am also, we could have a great discussion on this subject. The market can easily be manipulated by speculators and the outrageously rich to sway political minds. When the market is down it favors the dems, it's a fact. When the economy is good, the current administration gets the credit; when it's bad the same also happens. You don't think that can be manipulated at all?


My own humble opinion on why O will be elected are these:  The economy, hatred of Bush, white guilt and uninformed voters, period.


Maybe she just doesn't have anything to discuss with you....pitiful
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I like it here. Besides, mostly all they discuss there is current events. Imagine that. nm

Well pardon me, but how can you discuss the present without a history of sm
what shaped it?  It isn't possible.
Well, by all means lets discuss pertinent
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Of course, because it takes high thinking to discuss
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Why don't we discuss the Republican candidates for a change?
This is just like a dog chasing his tail!
Don't worry JR - very easy to trounce them AND discuss the issues.
They're dumb, and they lack conviction, and they do most of the work of exposing themselves for the lackeys they are so that we don't have to spend much effort at it. I mean case in point - that the Freepers would even THINK it was a good plan to tie up liberals on chat boards to keep them from grassroots organizing. Hey, if they can get paid for it more power to them - but sheez, are they really that stupid? Or, just that desperate, heh.
Why don't you discuss like an adult instead of throwing temper tantrums?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
It's like trying to discuss Dante's Inferno with someone stuck in My Little Red Reader. nm
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We'll discuss that crime when Bush et al are done with their trial.
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I don't expect anything
You don't have to believe anything, and you don't have to sit down and shut up, but please do not spin people of faith as weirdos and engage tongue-in-cheek about their beliefs. Again, you don't have to believe, but you don't have to belittle either.

I can't tell you how to act I can only request.
Well, what would you expect them to say?
Do you really want them to attract attention to ijits out there who would make good on the threat?  Sometimes the "truth" isn't just exactly the best thing to circulate.  I heard the yell myself and there was absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever what was said.  It reminded me that there are too many nut jobs running around loose out there and all of this Barrack HUSSAIN Obama stuff is just fueling the fire.  I hope all of you who are badmouthing him without any documentation whatsoever will be happy if the unthinkable actually happens knowing you had a part in riling up the nuts.
He's about what one would expect
for someone who was at the bottom of his class and ran everything he came in contact with into the ground.  Typical spoiled rich brat completely sans brains.
I would certainly expect him to do that

 FOR SURE.  I would expect anyone, especially someone proclaiming to be a Christian, to deny this fact emphatically.


I expect s/m
they won't turn their attention to anything until and if they can get another Republican in the White House.  I've been gone all day and really hoped by now the RABID republicans would have given it up.  Looks like they could give him a little more than 24 hours to see what he's going to do.  I hope ALL Republicans aren't like some of you people on this board.
I expect more but I know he won't

give me enough to pay off my mortgage or feed my family for 4 years, so I'll just hope for the gas money and the flat screen TV.


What do you expect
M-snot-NBC and Wall Street Journal. C'mon big bad, you should know better.

Those two "rags"(rags referring to gossip/smear tabloids) are so hateful to anyone not liberal, and gleefully aimed to destroy her from the beginning.

I take nothing they have to say with any ounce of truth.
Really, now tell me, what does anyone expect out of Fox except
as much garbage as they can get out. They have done it all election. Totally against Obama. I would faint out cold if they said anything good about either 1 of them. They are called "faux news" by the way. I think she looks terrible, small waist, great choice of a dress for her. CNN is calling her sexy and saying no one has had this since Jacqueline Kennedy. Imagine!! Go back and watch "faux" - I learned long time ago just, as my husband said, negativity there.
Well.....I would expect you to know about gas....
that being said, I guess you missed the part about I am not a Republican? What is more important? Fixing the economy or pig poop? Think the pig poop could wait a year? I do. Talk about your ridiculous statements. Here awhile back the EPA deemed, after millions upon millions, that cows belched too much gas into the atmosphere too. Yep, we know that now. Also deemed there was nothing we could do about it. So millions later, cows still belch and pigs will still poop...GET THE PICTURE? lol You folks kill me!!
I don't expect you to get it! sm
Obama is gonna get us in a bigger war while he sits on HIS BUTT spending money he doesn't have, appearing on talk shows trying to be some kind of "hollywood celebrity president".  While he is acting like some kind of "god", terrorist countries are sitting there lauging at us and plotting how they can attack now.  I am wasting my time even typing this I know because HIS supporters are not gonna listen and they will be screaming and crying when it all hits the fan!
What do you really expect him to say?

He can't given away any plans that we might have in getting the hostage back because we wouldn't want that information getting to the pirates.  All he can really say at this point is that we will do everything we can to get the captain back safely.  It probably is a good thing he isn't commenting on this.


Exactly. It was a KID. What do you expect
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Did you expect the

Saudi King to give Obama an iPod with show tunes or DVDs that won't work in our DVD players?  LOL!


Well, he was a Democrat. What would you expect?

Johnson didn't have a haves, have-more, elite base like Bush bragged about having.  He just cared about normal everyday people.  How I miss those days.


I certainly didn't expect
I remember when I believed that about my country...innocent until proven guilty....alas, if only it were true! Have you ever heard of Japanese interment camps during WWII? Today, it's Guantanamo; talk to McCain about the ban of torture.

As for your poll numbers, I have some too:

http://www.thebusinessonline.com/Stories.aspx?America%20turns%20on%20Bush%20as%20all%20the%20president%E2%80%99s%20staff%20face%20integrity%20test&StoryID=E6B6DD59-E863-47B6-B714-3B8B037609F7&SectionID=BA48E3D7-CCB9-4976-883F-EE19F9206FB3America turns on Bush as all the president’s staff face integrity test


By : Jonathan Kennedy in Boston October 30, 2005


LESS than a year after George Bush’s re-election, the much vaunted “political capital” he was supposed to have won last November has all been spent, if not squandered.

For a president who came to office with great ambitions to change the US, he has little to show for his first five years in office, apart from a foreign policy that is in chaos, a massive and wasteful increase in public spending and a few modest tax cuts. Already crippled by allegations of corruption and nepotism, seemingly interminable bloodshed in Iraq, and a woefully uninspired response to Hurricane Katrina, President Bush was delivered two more hammer blows last week.

Harriet Miers, formerly Bush’s personal lawyer and chief of staff for policy, was forced on Thursday to withdraw her name from consideration for the Supreme Court nomination after massive opposition from the president’s core conservative base. Miers was attacked from both sides of the aisle for her lack of experience in constitutional law and her uncomfortably close personal relationship with the president. Ultimately, however, the failure of her bid can be attributed to a lack of support from America’s conservative movement, who were looking for a candidate with a more transparently strong voting record on conservative issues, especially on abortion. But Friday’s grand jury indictment of

I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby and a continuing investigation into Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, could prove to be the straw that breaks the back of the Bush administration and relegates it to lame duck status. Libby, Vice-President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, and Rove are under scrutiny for their alleged role in the outing of CIA officer Valerie Plame, a move that detractors believe was a politically motivated smear tactic. Rove, among other Bush administration officials, is implicated in what has become a spectacularly intricate alleged conspiracy against Plame’s husband, retired ambassador Joseph C. Wilson. Plame’s cover was allegedly broken in retaliation for her husband’s vocal opposition to the Iraq war. Although this sounds esoteric, it is seen to be a serious matter in Washington.

Of particular interest will be Libby’s role in the affair. The prominent administration insider was implicated when New York Times reporter Judith Miller revealed Libby as a source after spending nearly three months in jail for her initial refusal to betray his confidence. Libby’s indictment for perjury and his close connection with Cheney, and thus Bush, is raising questions that most Republicans don’t want to answer with mid-term elections looming next November.

According to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released on Tuesday, nine out of 10 Americans believe that Bush officials did something illegal or unethical; bad news for an administration that campaigned on the promise to “restore integrity” to the Oval Office. The incident is under an independent investigation led by US attorney and acting special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, a registered independent who cut his teeth prosecuting mob bosses in New York. The ex-attorney for Northern Illinois is considered by most in Washington as non-partisan, if not overzealous in his strict interpretation of the law.

The consensus among legal experts and insiders on Capitol Hill is that the president himself is safe from any legal repercussions. But he will not come out unscathed. The political ramifications stand to be far more damaging, not only for the president, but for his party. In another CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll, it was revealed that were an election held immediately between President Bush and any Democrat, the unnamed democratic contender would win in a 55% to 39% landslide. The same poll revealed that the Democrats are ahead on almost all the issues for the first time in recent memory. This includes health care (59% to 30%), social security (56% to 33%) the economy (50% to 38%), and the Iraq war (46% to 40%). The only issue on which the American public still trusts President Bush’s party is terrorism, the Republicans still enjoying a sizeable 53% to 29% lead.

With American deaths in Iraq above the psychologically important 2,000 mark, an erosion in support from his base, the press smelling blood over the Plame Affair, and his domestic agenda in tatters, last week was undoubtedly President Bush’s worst since entering public life.


What else would one expect from a classless hag?

What do you expect from a liar?
He's been caught lying through his teeth so what else is there to do but lie? He seems to get by with that easily......

http://www.infowars.com/?p=6463
What would you expect him to say, now that they have gone belly up?
And those bonus-seekers and lobbyists et all...Democrats. This is your Enron. Enjoy.
Certainly you don't expect an answer?
This is what happens when those that have nothing to believe in go after those that do. Most don't believe there is anything greater than themselves.

It is sad really but remember, we will continue to love and pray for those to come to Christ. This is not said with arrogance in the least.....just love.
I expect a replay either way.
And there should be, especially if McCain wins.
Thanks! I don't expect everybody to agree with me. That's
why America is so good.  We do have the freedom to vote as we choose. 
Don't expect more than a big, long DUH just like the one
you are getting from you other legitimate and quite pertient question about centrist vs right-wing platform. They are too busy conjuring up verbal assassinations against Obama to stop long enough to ponder anything else. Hope somebody steps up to prove me wrong. I have my own ideas about the party orientation, but being an unAmerica, socialist, Marxist, commie Muslim loving deadbeat I thought I should give them first crack at it.
What do you expect from an illegal? (sm)
He's probably trying to get McCain to lend him his birth certificate. 
I don't expect you to "get it."...(nm)

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I wouldn't expect you not to agree with B. That's nothing new.
But, thanks for explaining it to me.
Well, if I said I wouldn't be and I didn't, then why did you expect me to? sm
I am confused here. I will say that as far as your assertion that you were attacked by Kfir, I would say there was an equal amount of enmity on both sides.  The only difference is, your entire life and country at this very moment are not about to be blown to smithereens.  It might help to put that in a relative light.