When I said dems, I meant the ones on the hill....
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-29
In Reply to: wow - sam -- you really do get nasty - see past the labels please.
I did not mean you. However, why are you not willing to hold them accountable? They are to blame. If it were Republicans at the heart of it, I would be saying the same thing. That is what I don't get about the party faithful on EITHER side.
Fact is, 92 dems voted no on it. Had they not, it would have passed. That was planned from the start. They do NOT want it to be a Dem majority, otherwise they would just pass it.
Why on earth should they vote for it if they don't believe in it and their constituents are asking them NOT to pass it, just because Bush wants it? THAT is what I am talking about. I say good for them. Toeing the party line is not what we need in this country. Holding people accountable is what we SHOULD be doing.
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I meant as far as dems are concerned
Obama gave the answer, no matter who asked it. But people are so upset that Joe wasn't licensed, that Joe is now getting a book deal, that Joe now has a publicist and attorney. So what? You think Joe went out and did all that on his own? No. They approached Joe because they knew they could make money off of Joe. So what if Joe wasn't licensed. Where I come from half the people who do work around here aren't licensed, but I guarantee you they do a better job than those who are. The point is Joe, whoever Joe truly is, asked a pertinent question, and Obama gave an answer. Whether or not Obama is a socialist, his answer was a socialist answer.
fool on the hill
We are at war, in the middle of a war so we cant talk badly about our president or administration..Oh please. I will talk and shout out how awful this little jerk is in the WH and anyone else who sees the TRUTH, please speak out too. To be quiet about this warmonger and what he is doing to America is a major crime. No, I wont be quiet..I will scream out what this chickenhawk has done to America. You can sit meekly by and take whatever the fool on the hill shoves your way.
What in the sam hill are you talking about?
Get the groove on sister. Let's get some real talking going here.
And I say again....look at all the experience on the hill now....
and where did it get us? In the worst financial crisis since the depression. Frankly, at this point, "experience" means ZIP to me. I am ready for some good old common sense. I don't care if they talk "purty," I want some good DECISIONS. She is looking the best to me in that area!
Here is the Capital Hill
202-204-3121 Capital Hill number.
http://www.senate.gov/
Here is the link to find your senators in your own state.
Once link is opened, look at upper right corner in blue area for Find Your Senators and pick your state.
I agree with you. Bill and Hill think that
if they break it, they can fix it. They're up to something. Cannot trust either of them, and even though I am a staunch Democrat, I will not vote for her/him. My opinion is that the country's only hope is in Obama, whether you like him or not. He impressed me because he spoke out against the war when it was not politically correct, when people were said to be "unpatriotic" if they disagreed with the shrub. Have been paying very close attention to the primaries, caucuses, etc. since before Christmas. Please, no more Clintons, no more Bushes. Maybe Hillary will crash and burn.
Media Bias per AP, The Hill, etc.
Actually, neither one means a hill of beans to me...thanks for trying...nm
How old were you when Anita Hill testified?
Go here and read the sexual harrassment section...in its entirity. He is a disgusting excuse for a human being and could only have been appointed and confirmed under a Bush administration...and my opinion of him has NOTHING to do with right of left. It has to do with right and wrong and the dignity of the SC, which CT undermines every time he walks into the chambers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas
If these calls did not amount to a hill of
beans when it came time for my representatives to *roll up their sleeves* and do *THEIR JOBS,* then it is time to fire them and elect someone who will listen to the calls. That is why we elected them, to listen to their constituents and REPRESENT us! You just do not get the picture at all.
Relax, you're comparing everybody to Slick Will and Hill.
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I never heard Hill commenting on SP breasts
Must have been on O'Reilly show. Was there a large screen behind him showing various closeup videos of both Hillary's and SP's chests to illustrate the point?
There is a reason that Bill and Hill aren't...
out there strongly for Obama. They ARE for the party, but not him particularly. If Hillary was invested in this, she would be going all over the country stumping. She's not. Bill was saying nothing but positive things on Greta Van Susteren's show. Hillary is fixed on 2012...and the only way she runs for Prez then is if Obama loses. If he wins, it might be 8 years. Neither one are going to stray from the party line, but they certainly aren't in the ranks of "ardent" Obama supporters.
I personally think if Obama were to think about ditching Biden (and I really don't think he is) and asked Hillary about it, I think she would tell him in no uncertain terms to take a hike. We would never know that publically of course...I think he knows he messed in his nest with the Clintons. I can't see him going there, and I certainly can't see Michelle and Hillary rubbing elbows for 4 years...lol. But, like you, I could be wrong....stranger things have happened. lol.
Capital hill is being flooded with calls
to stimulus. So, if Obama states one more time during his speeches with a bunch of pronouns and adjectives, "The people want this!" I am going to..... well, barf! I still WANT MY MONEY BACK FROM THE BAILOUT. GOVERNMENT SUCKS!
Capital hill is being flooded with calls
to stimulus. So, if Obama states one more time during his speeches with a bunch of pronouns and adjectives, "The people want this!" I am going to..... well, barf! I still WANT MY MONEY BACK FROM THE BAILOUT. GOVERNMENT SUCKS!
You have to excuse them, after Bill and Hill, scandal is just part
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That should be "grin" - anyone else watch Anita Hill hearings? nm
Anita Hill lied - there were two sides to the case
Only Thomas and Hill know what really happened. When this case was ongoing I was a democrat, yet I believed Thomas. People need to read the case and decide for themsleves. Just because Anita Hill said there was sexual harrassment doesn't mean it's true. I was on jury duty for a full week for a girl who said her boyfriend raped her. With her crying on the witness stand and carrying on I believed she was. On the fifth day we were all dismissed from duty, the girl told her lawyer that he really did not rape her and she made it up because she was made at him. Please don't go by just the link below either. Do some more researching, but from what I read of this article I don't think it's leaning towards one or the other side. All I'm saying is there are two sides of the story. By your post I'm sure if he was a democrat who wasn't getting ready to look over the info about the O you would praise him as a great judge.
http://volokh.com/posts/1191302418.shtml
Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill!
Vietnam-era radical Bill Ayers says he knows President-elect Barack Obama no better than thousands of other people in Chicago.
In an interview Friday morning on ABC's "Good Morning America," Ayers distanced himself from Obama. Ayers said — for example — the two didn't even meet before Ayers hosted an event at his home for Obama.
Ayers said the relationship was based on things like improving schools in their Chicago neighborhood — not on Ayers' political views.
um...you're thinking of Bill and Hill, walking out of the white house with everything
That was a fact, overlooked by most libs.
Do ya think lithium would help here? (only kidding, doesn't make sense, but this is Capitol Hill
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What I meant was....
why can we not protect the unborn children first? Are they not as deserving as homeless, poor, etc.? That was my point. I do not see, nor do I ever expect to see, liberals exhorting us to take care of unborn children as a part of taking care of the least among us. I have seen Conservatives exhort to take care of the least among us, including unborn children. Conservatives just want to put a limit on it, and regulate it a little more closely (as far as welfare, etc.). I don't have a problem with that either. And I give privately to Christian organizations that DO take care of the least among us. It does not have to go through the government to be effective. I guess that is where we differ.
What I meant was...
He should have said "no comment" first thing when he addressed the American people - when he said the whole "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" thing. At that point he was not obligated to comment, and he shouldn't have.
I am not a "Clintonite" or whatever you said. I just think he was a more intelligent person than Bush. Although I despise Bush, I really do like his wife Laura. I think she seems like a very caring, very genuine person.
I do NOT plan to vote for Hilary. I plan to vote for Barack Obama if he makes it that far. I think he could really improve the health insurance crisis in America. I never hear Republican candidates talking about making healthcare more affordable, and therefore I will probably vote for a Democrat.
I meant
In the last paragraph I meant to write posting "false" information, not "fall".
Not quite sure if it is a pub or a dem who meant DNC....lol nm
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Sorry that was meant for OP nm
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I think you meant that some
or maybe even many Obama supporters are educated. Just like McCain supporters.
Meant I wonder......
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Her's what I meant
Not true meant that I'm not a rabid Republican (I'm a conservative). That's why the RINOS need to get the heck out of the RNC. They've ruined it. Also, they're frauds.
yes, that is what I meant
I have no idea why I typed Otis Small?? Good night GP
Not what I meant.
What I meant was that I hope he has the opportunity to serve out the full four years and/or that this election isn't contested for some reason resulting in the involvement of the Supreme Court. For example, I see the GOP is filing a lawsuit against Obama, alleging he used campaign funds when he visited his grandmother for the last time.
I hope we can all get along and not be as divided as we have been for the past few years, and I hope that nothing happens that would cause such division.
Again, I thought the post you wrote was very classy. Thanks. 
I meant...
As O's father is Muslim and O's mother Christian, they had to decide how they were going to raise O.
That what I meant.
I am roman catholic.
What? Oh, you must have MEANT to say
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I only meant where did it come from?
WHY the OP posted it
but aren't you classy
obviously he meant that he wants
to win over the moderates and fight the terrorists with his strategy.
I believe what you meant to say was
the hard working class of people that this entire country was founded on is going by the wayside, instead being replaced by an invasion of another country and their people to add to the already overwhelmed small population of people that work to pay for those who have spent generation after generation mooching off of the working class.
If not being lazy makes me self righteous, then so be it.
That is not what I meant.
Out of all the earmarks in the bill 60% were dems and 40% were pubs. I didn't mean the whole bill was 100% earmarks.
Meant what I put
knew such smart people here (I) could just get ......
still going at it, thanks for the snippy response.
I meant to say..
We already have laws in place that work to protect people from being harmed or killed.
You never meant a socialist Jew! sm
What do you think they come up to you and say hi, I am a socialist Jew. Do you know Noam Chomsky? How about David Horowitz's parents? How about the Rosenbergs? Shall I go on. Do you wonder why almost all the actors blacklisted in Hollywood way back when were almost all JEWS?!?
I meant... NOW shoe...nm
But I know you'll stay because you need us to validate yourself. You're not at your best unless you are in your leftist/lib basher mode, eh. Keep it up, and people like you will expose the right brotherhood for what it's worth.
That isn't what he meant but there is no use debating you.
Maybe logical thought escapes you.
Wow, did I say Liar. I really meant sm
 deluded liar. Yes, that's much better.
It was not meant as an attack, I
that it might not be the wisest idea to go to a *liberal* board and call yourself something that runs counter to their belief system, and then expect to be treated like a long-lost son.
Further, I said the Democrats frustrate me to no end, and it is precisely for the very reasons you stated. They were too afraid of being branded as **unpatriotic** and **unsupportive of the troops**, blah,blah,blah. In their defense, however, sometimes they simply have not had the votes to over ride the president's agenda. Thank goodness for people like Murtha.
I apologize if you felt I was attacking you, as I think we have found some common ground. I think the other thing that happens is that sometimes words, if not chosen extra carefully, can come off sounding what they are not.
I meant I felt like it was an act....
I believe it was theatrics. The Hollywood reference was meant to say they would be proud of the acting job...nothing to do with all of Hollywood being amoral, though I believe a good portion of it is. But that could be said for other areas as well. I am also aware of staunch conservatives in Hollywood and I think God for them.
I never meant to infer that
W should NOT have gone to VT. If that is how you read it, then you misread or I mistyped. Of course he should have been there; it is just that there was SO much publicity about this tragedy and it does not appear (to me) that there is much of that for the American soldiers in Iraq; nothing on a national level.
I also never said that conservatives did not care about the war. What I meant was that in a country where only 50% of eligible voters turn out it is not unusual that so many Americans are disconnected from this war. I remember hearing people talk about WWII and seeing movies (not valid verification but nonetheless) and it seemed that the entire country was aligned behind **the cause.** I don't see that now. I bet you the family farm that I could go down to one of the city high schools or middle schools and ask a group of teenagers what they know about this war, what do they think we should or should not do and I feel certain I would get pretty much blank stares. That is what I mean about Americans not caring...maybe that is not the correct term. Most Americans are not engaged and don't feel a connection or much of an allegiance to **the cause.** No one sacrifices anything for this war but then that is one definition of secularism I have heard **Secularism is a life without sacrifice.
You see staying in Iraq as creating some kind of democracy where the people will live a better life. I don't. I see that the longer we stay, the more people die, both Americans and Iraqis. Altho I did not agree with this war, or any war for that matter, the possibility that Iraq could have been changed for the better did probably exist 4 years ago, but not now. I really believe our being there will make no difference, aside from more death, than us not being there. It is not cut and run to me. It is cut your losses and in my opinion that would be loss of life.
As far as Clinton and Somalia; I don't know much about the details of that situation. He was concerned about bin Laden; a lot of people were for a long time. I don't think this country would have supported a war in the middle east before 9/11 happened and that played a part as well. There is quite enough blame to go around for not foreseeing (sp) 9/11.
Knew what you meant
Isn't it awful when your own relatives treat you like dirt. My sister is mormon and she actually thinks I'm on the same level with manson, dahmer, hitler, etc because I'm not mormon (we both grew up going to methodist services with 12 years of sunday school). Inlaws treated us like garbage cos we didn't go to their church when we lived near them. I am a deeply spiritual person but I am not a Christian and I count myself blessed not to be in their crowd.
Nope, exactly how I meant it
Pretty self explanatory.
You Meant to Say McCain, Right?
Obviously you've confused the 2 candidates. It's poor Senator McCain who can't think/talk at the same time.
Meant to add "sm"
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you likely meant should "not" pay for it. nm
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