Where on earth in this post do you get I hate blacks, Dems, or the poor?
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-31
In Reply to: I'm confused. Who do you hate more... - Blacks, the poor or the dems? Which is it?
I was quoting the mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin..who is black, and a Democrat, though not poor. Did I say I didn't like mayor Nagin? I am just saying he is acting a whole lot differently than he did during Katrina. And from that you get that I hate blacks, dems, and the poor? The dem talking points don't really fit this post...??? Now I am confused.
I don't hate Dems. I just don't agree with them. And I don't understand how they can say they are the party of the people and want to fight so hard for freedom of choice and individual rights, and then turn on one lone poster like a pack of snarling dogs for disagreeing with them. Don't you think what the party is supposed to stand for and the way theones on this board are acting is even SLIGHTLY contradictory?? lol
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More blacks are in prision because more blacks are poor in this country...sm
If you can't afford a get out of jail free card, you spend the time.
The legal system is a poor excuse. If you have money you can buy your way out. If not you're screwed. This is not even a black or white issue, except that most blacks can't afford to pay off the legal system.
You hate blacks AND gays? You think Fox is the news..
I am not answering any more of your racist, rude dumb posts. Talk to yourself, all 3 or more of your selves that you are posting here so obviously.
If your idea of earth is fear, hate, and misery...no thanks!
The people who are creeped out by Obama and the people who support him are probably scared of their own shadows and prefer to wallow in misery!
I do not hate poor people!
I do, however, have a problem with people who could work but would rather live off of the government. There are a lot of those kinds of people out there. They could better themselves but they just won't. The ones who can't help their situation....I have no problem helping them. But it is the low life scum sucking weasels who just want handouts that ruin it for the people who truly need help and Obama's plans would just enable these weasels to keep being losers.
All these government plans are gonna cost money and yet Obama is supposed to give us all tax cuts.....where he is going to get that money if he if cutting all of our taxes. who is footing the bill....huh? Cuz I sure as sh!t know that Barry Obama isn't gonna pay for it all on his own.
Post is about tax burden of rich, poor,
I will not concede your suggestion that there was NO surplus under Clinton. If the amount of in question, so be it, even though I have seen that figure in multiple sources and have provided the link to them repeatedly. Fact is that GW inherited a surplus in the hundreds of millions. Even if he started from zero (which he did not), he still created a deficit of $400 billion, so no matter how diligently you try to suggest that there was no surplus under BC (a delusional notion), fact remains that the public has every right to compare JM (who voted with Bush 90% of the time) and GW when it comes to lack of fiscal responsibility. Observations about relationship between tax burden and distribution of wealth are valid economic principles and cannot be knocked out by the spin machine.
Sensible Dems Don't Need to Post
There is nothing left to be said.
Questions for dems and pubs - only serious responses need post...(sm)
If you are a democrat, is there anything that Obama has done that you don't agree with, or perhaps is there a policy that he has kept from the previous admin that you agree with that would be out of the norm for the left?
My answer: I actually agree with the decision exhibited thus far by the Obama administration to keep the "enemy combatant" thing. I think it could serve as useful, however, it should not be abused. In the case of al-Marri I think it was abused, and it should be refined. They have FINALLY brought charges against this guy who has been held in prison since 2003 with no charges, no counsel, nada. I think we need to preserve the right to hold people, but there needs to be some kind of standard for doing so.
Info on case: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gcdH1vowYGzkkCo-7c8M2imC056Q
If you are a republican is there anything that the Obama administration has done that you DO agree with?
Poor, poor MT. She can't pick a fight with anyone on her own board tonight and must come here to
Ludicrous post. Don't hate anyone....
and why on earth would you think the concern about him would stop simply because he won the election?
Stop with the pubs already. Not a pub. Registered Independent. You don't have to be a "pub" to be onto Obama. All he has done is prove who he is...I realize you wouldn't see a fault if you saw him standing over the body with a smoking gun. I get it.
Where do you find hate in my post?
I posted truth. I didn't espouse hatred towards anyone. I simply said there is one path to God. Show me where I was hateful!! Just because you don't agree doesn't make me hateful. On the contrary, you are guilty of you're own accusation!
What a hate filled post.
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What a hate filled post.
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Not blinded by the hate, just the post where she was told sm
she doesn't have a right to speak is invisible.
Obama Haters will hate this post.
Remember Rush I-hope-he-fails Limbaugh?
All they want is fodder to support their ridiculous claims. They don't want to hear that he is actually succeeding better than expected.
There is not one thing in the post that leads to hate
It's called disappointment and frustration. Over half the country feels this way. Sorry we don't love your lord the way you do. We see what is wrong and we speak our minds. The same way you did when Bush was in office.
Don't bother, I hate YouTube, and any idiot can post anything they want there.....sm
and make it as slanted as they want. I will take my news and views from the regular new outlets, watch for myself on C-Span, etc., and even then I sometimes wonder who is pulling the strings. Until we realize and acknowledge what racism truly is (and I am not talking about Johnny Cochran and the "race card" to get OJ off), we will be a doomed race, we either all work together for the nation and PUT DOWN people who have these rad neck, ignorant views and DO NOT TOLERATE IT, or put a nice icing or coating on it....in the words of the great O, and Harry Truman before him, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig, and you can call that editorial "comic" satire or whatever, but it is still racist garbage. IMHO
Poor Poor Rush. Hey, how is AIR AMERICA
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more blacks in prison...why?
Your post is a racist post. Tell me, why do blacks make up the majority in prison? Could it be bad cops sending innocent black people to prison..you bet..could it be no opportunites for blacks, you bet..Your statement trying to defend Bennetts undefensible comments make me wonder.
Blacks in Alaska.......
Well, I have several long-time very close friends who have lived in Alaska for 28+ years. My best friend married a native Alaskan. That conversation did come up one time and you know what her husband told me (this is a man who worked on the north slope for dozens of years). He said the blacks in Alaska are some of the most hard working people he has ever met. Blacks and whites work alongside one another on the slope and other hard jobs. He said many blacks came to Alaska to get higher paying jobs. The comments he would hear would be how they detested their black relatives/friends who sat on their butts and took government (taxpayer)handouts and used their color as an excuse not to better themselves. Their children all went to school together, played together, and helped one another. He also told us that a close friend of his who was from black/Alaskan heritage had told him he couldn't understand with all the advantages his generation and those still to come have, why they don't take advantage of them and why they continue to kill one another in gangs and spend so much time hating one another and "whites", blaming whites for all their problems. Now, this comes from a black man in Alaska. He said many of his friends came up after he suggested they could find higher paying jobs. They were hard working people who just wanted a better life and they refused to raise their children thinking they had to have handouts and they didn't want them "around" other blacks who were drug pushing and calling each other the "n" word in their schools. It wasn't the Republican whites they were trying to get away from. By the way, he thought social programs were a joke!! He felt social programs were one of the biggest problems in black society and that they encouraged handouts and free rides without offering a solution.
I have several black neighbors and we are in the south, that will not hesitate to tell you they "hate" social programs, they are sick and tired of paying for them, and suggest those that like them so much be the only ones who pay for them. They are hard working people like us who want to actually keep their money. One couple put two of their daughters through medical school without a single social program in their lives. They detest being taxed to pay for all these social programs when we can see in our own communities they are just unjustified, just throwing more money into a big pit.
Now, I'm not sure where you get your info from, but all republicans are not white...matter of fact the above mentioned blacks vote republican and think the democrats are the problem for the plight of the black man. Keep giving them handouts and making them believe they "need" help, can't do without the government, can't make their own decisions, and you will have nothing but a welfare state before long.
Rich republicans don't pay taxes? Who in the h*ll do you think pay for all those social programs now.....you? The 1% of rich republicans as you put it are the ones in the highest tax brackets, pay the most taxes, and fund the greatest majority of your social programs. Taxation is relevant to your income, not your political party. You make more, you pay more in taxes. How do you think they made more money....it fell from the skies? Yes, there are those who inherit a lot of money and have done nothing to deserve it (even though those they inherited it from worked their butts off for it), but in a free country, they are free to inherit it if it is given to them. I don't feel negative towards them for that. And there are those who have made fortunes from hard work, not coming home at 5, and have pretty much given up any life of their own to succeed to the level they feel they want to be. You say rich like it's a bad word. Should we fault people for being hard working and succeeding financially in life and making more than us? I know people who have lots of money and they have sacrificed a LOT to get there.
I feel pretty certain if you had lots of money you would certainly lavish it on your children. That would be your right. And you probably wouldn't want it taken from you to give to everyone else when you can make the decision to donate/give as you see fit.
Our government, however, feels they have the right to have death taxes, which by the way, Whoopie Goldberg, detests and thinks that is wrong (she's black and rich)and why does she think that's wrong? Because she wants to give her wealth to her family when she dies and that's how it should be, without government interference. They have no right to take it....they didn't make it. I don't hear her jumping on the bandwagon saying TAKE MY MONEY, PLEASE, and give it to anyone you want and pay for hundreds of social programs with it. After all, she made it and should give to those as she sees fit, not as our government sees fit. Matter of fact, I don't hear any rich blacks screaming take my money. I hear some of them backing Obama and say they believe in what he wants for this country, but they just don't want to pay for what he wants. Make up your mind...can't have it both ways!
Well, for ACORN it is about race....the more blacks
The blacks that have been truthful have spoken out and said that the corrupt group ACORN has PUSHED them to vote for Obama, telling them how much better their lives would be, etc., etc., and they will get a big 'ole check every month, courtesy of the hard working folks. And all they gotta do is sign on the dotted line. These are black people speaking out because they know something is very wrong with this picture.
Too bad the O lovers don't see anything wrong with this picture.
Current-day blacks are not slaves and never were.
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Why blacks voted for Prop 8
Interesting column from the Times, written by a black. I bring this here just as a matter of interest. I found it to be quite interesting.
Op-Ed Columnist
Gay Marriage and a Moral Minority
By CHARLES M. BLOW
Published: November 29, 2008
We now know that blacks probably didn’t tip the balance for Proposition 8. Myth busted. However, the fact remains that a strikingly high percentage of blacks said they voted to ban same-sex marriage in California. Why?
There was one very telling (and virtually ignored) statistic in CNN’s exit poll data that may shed some light: There were far more black women than black men, and a higher percentage of them said that they voted for the measure than the men. How wide was the gap? According to the exit poll, 70 percent of all blacks said that they voted for the proposition. But 75 percent of black women did. There weren’t enough black men in the survey to provide a reliable percentage for them. However, one can mathematically deduce that of the raw number of survey respondents, nearly twice as many black women said that they voted for it than black men.
Why? Here are my theories:
(1) Blacks are much more likely than whites to attend church, according to a Gallup report, and black women are much more likely to attend church than black men. Anyone who has ever been to a black church can attest to the disparity in the pews. And black women’s church attendance may be increasing.
According to a report issued this spring by Child Trends, a nonprofit research center, weekly church attendance among black 12th graders rose 26 percent from 1993 to 2006, while weekly church attendance for white 12th graders remained virtually flat. In 2006, those black teenagers were nearly 50 percent more likely to attend church once a week than their white counterparts. And it is probably safe to assume that many of them were going to church with their mothers since Child Trends reported that around the time that they were born, nearly 70 percent of all black children were born to single mothers.
(2) This high rate of church attendance by blacks informs a very conservative moral view. While blacks vote overwhelmingly Democratic, an analysis of three years of national data from Gallup polls reveals that their views on moral issues are virtually indistinguishable from those of Republicans. Let’s just call them Afropublicrats.
(3) Marriage can be a sore subject for black women in general. According to 2007 Census Bureau data, black women are the least likely of all women to be married and the most likely to be divorced. Women who can’t find a man to marry might not be thrilled about the idea of men marrying each other.
Proponents of gay marriage would do well to focus on these women if they want to win black votes. A major reason is that black women vote at a higher rate than black men. In the CNN national exit poll, there were 40 percent more black women than black men, and in California there were 50 percent more. But gay marriage advocates need to hone their strategy to reach them.
First, comparing the struggles of legalizing interracial marriage with those to legalize gay marriage is a bad idea. Many black women do not seem to be big fans of interracial marriage either. They’re the least likely of all groups to intermarry, and many don’t look kindly on the black men who intermarry at nearly three times the rate that they do, according to a 2005 study of black intermarriage rates in the Wisconsin Law Review. Wrong reference. Don’t even go there.
Second, don’t debate the Bible. You can’t win. Religious faith is not defined by logic, it defies it. Instead, decouple the legal right from the religious rite, and emphasize the idea of acceptance without endorsement.
Then, make it part of a broader discussion about the perils of rigidly applying yesterday’s sexual morality to today’s sexual mores. Show black women that it backfires. The stigma doesn’t erase the behavior, it pushes it into the shadows where, devoid of information and acceptance, it become more risky.
For instance, most blacks find premarital sex unacceptable, according to the Gallup data. But, according to data from a study by the Guttmacher Institute, blacks are 26 percent more likely than any other race to have had premarital sex by age 18, and the pregnancy rate for black teens is twice that of white teens. They still have premarital sex, but they do so uninformed and unprotected.
That leads to a bigger problem. According to a 2004 report by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, black women have an abortion rate that is three times that of white women.
More specifically, blacks overwhelmingly say that homosexuality isn’t morally acceptable. So many black men hide their sexual orientations and engage in risky behavior. This has resulted in large part in black women’s becoming the fastest-growing group of people with H.I.V. In a 2003 study of H.I.V.-infected people, 34 percent of infected black men said they had sex with both men and women, while only 6 percent of infected black women thought their partners were bisexual. Tragic. (In contrast, only 13 percent of the white men in the study said they had sex with both men and women, while 14 percent of the white women said that they knew their partners were bisexual.)
So pitch it as a health issue. The more open blacks are to the idea of homosexuality, the more likely black men would be to discuss their sexual orientations and sexual histories. The more open they are, the less likely black women would be to put themselves at risk unwittingly. And, the more open blacks are to homosexuality over all, the more open they are likely to be to gay marriage. This way, everyone wins.
First of all, blacks received the right to vote after the civil war,
try 140 years ago (NOT 40) when the Reconstruction Ammendments were passed between 1865 and 1870. Women received the right vote with the 19th Ammendment in 1920 (88 years ago).
I think history has established that slavery is wrong. I refuse to believe that I, as a white person, must continually apologize to the black man or woman for slavery that happened to their ancestors centuries ago! I personally have never codoned or owned slaves and they personally have never been slaves. So I ask you, what does slavery have to do with Obama being elected president? What does slavery have to do with his compaign and this election? Who is making race an issue here? I'll answer the last one, YOU are by insinuating that Obama and all African-Americans deserve special accolades just because they are black. They did not suffer as slaves. They did not have to overcome slavery. And today's African-Americans receive more rights and more governmental assistant, then any white person I know. Just look at affirmative action for crying out loud!
You're right, most blacks have voted democrats
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First of all blacks AND whites live in Harlem
The ignorant comments you refer to came directly out of Harlem and was played for anyone and everyone to hear. Did you not hear the comments made by citizens there? Don't call others names if you don't know what we're talking about.
It's time for blacks to have a little celebration WHY DO YOU CARE? sm
White people never will understand, and I am white, what the blacks went through and still go through. Not only do we now have a brilliant loving, honest president, but he happens to be black. It is MAJORLY symbolic. Why do you rabids pick apart every good and loving thing that the rest of us are celebrating today. Go write a love letter to Anne Coulter!
BYEEEEE hahahah Obama WON.
*blacks* not blanks. Been working too long today! nm
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Poor, poor Obama......sm
and I bet you don't think that huge press conference, surrounded by the adoring media masses, pandering to poor me (O) being taken advantage of....you don't believe that was political grandstanding?
Tsk tsk.
Imagine that simple statement being recited by a white man about blacks.
It would have been labeled a racist remark.
Why on earth
would I want to complain about people with alligator mouths and hummingbird arses. That's a personal problem.
What on earth
does being good-looking have to do with anything??
No one is talking about McCain's or Obama's relative handsomeness.
Is this the basis on which you're voting?? Then the country is doomed.
Why on earth would a gay
couple want to get married in a church when homosexuality is strictly forbidden in the Bible? That doesn't make any sense.
Hopefully the courts will overturn this in the states that have made it legal.
What on earth are you talking about?
Did I miss an earlier post that this is replying to or do you think that these are the only things that one could be bothered about concerning Obama?
The earth has been "replenished" far too many
and we'll all be standing shoulder-to-shoulder across every continent, with barely enough room to turn around. So what exactly is so 'intelligent' about populating our species out of existence?
Who knows - maybe God realizes we humans were a BIG MISTAKE. We're fouling the beautiful, bountiful earth that according to you, he made specifically for us. Leveling mountains and forests, polluting the streams & the oceans, causing the extinction of hundreds of species of animals (that supposedly HE created, right?) And for what? Because your brand of 'religion' says it's a sin to abort, (some even say contraception at ALL is a 'sin'), and that it's our God-given duty to replicate ourselves over and over again ad infinitum.
So, maybe he's trying to save our species by slowing down the multiplication factor a little bit. Ya never know. But one thing I DO know: Look at other species that outgrow their habitat and their food supply. That's where we're all headed.
How on earth could I stop you from posting....
have right at it. Don't you have anything better to do than take potshots at me? You guys are exactly why I will never vote Democrat again. You will not even allow a dissenting opinion without potshots and belittling. I thought liberals were all about freedom of speech and protection from being silenced in any way...you don't believe it at all...unless someone agrees with you. And for some reason, Obama supporters seem to be more rabid about it than most. Yet another rason not to vote for him...like I needed another one.
What on God's green earth makes
you call her a Bimbo. This isn't some anorexic model. This is a woman who once participated in a beauty pageant. I just do not see how that disqualifies her as capable for this job. She has been married for, I think, 20 years....which in this day in age is GREAT!!! She has 5 kids. She has an 80% approval rating as governor. If you truly refuse to even look into her and what she stands for just because she is an attractive women.....well....I'm sorry but that just leads me thing these ramblings are coming from an envious unattractive person. If you don't like Palin....fine. But give us a better reason than because she was in a beauty pageant and she is pretty. That is absolutely the most ignorant reason to not vote for someone. That would be like someone not voting for Obama just because he is black.....just plain stupid. That is superficial thinking. Talk about judging a book by its cover. Oh no...Palin is pretty....can't vote for her..she must be a bimbo. DUMB DUMB DUMB!
lol....you act like Alaska is at the ends of the earth....
and they are "poor Alaskans." I think they have all incomes levels. Hey...a few thousand dollars is a lot of money to ME. lol.
Anyway...the amount of land drilled on in Alaska is extremely small in contrast to the size of the state. Proposed drilling in ANWR encompasses about 2000 acres at the most far north part of Alaska. ANWR in total is 19 MILLION acres.
No, he said the Earth would never be destroyed by FLOOD again. nm
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Where on earth do you people get those crazy
getting any 'free money'. The super-rich will have to pay more of their fair share. For lots of others, it'll stay the same. For those of us who are hanging on by our toenails and making less & less money (umm.... medical transcriptionists, perhaps?), we'll get a bit of a break at tax time. But handing out free money? You gotta be kidding.
Who's God? Your God? My God? Earth, Wind and Fire?
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What on earth does the Taliban in Pakistan....
getting stronger have to do with the war in Iraq? That has to do with the war in Afghanistan, which, by the way, Obama never said he would end, in fact, he wants to escalate, which he has. The war in Iraq was the one he vowed to put an end to...you don't remember the speech? "We do not belong there, we never belonged there, and when I am elected I will begin immediate withdrawal." Yeah..uh huh. Then he moved it out to 16 months. And he has moved it out again to 24 months. Your golden idol has clay feet, my friend. You are so blinded by the "light" you just can't see it, and I cannot decide if that is plain old denial or if you really are that naive. :-)
English not so good. Sad for you. So much hate. Life too short hate.
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Oh I see....you hate small town folks, you hate Christians...
and you hate the military...you are also coming into real clear view.
Yes, America is so horrible that nearly everyone from every country on earth sm
wants to live here. What does that tell you?
Typo - meant god's good earth.
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Sheesh, you not only hate Bush, you hate PEOPLE!
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McCain knew about Bristol before he picked her so what on Earth does that say...sm
about his judgment?!?! Palin has her hands full at home...I understand why he chose a woman but why this one I will never understand?!?!
Ashes are all that's left of the shrub's scorched earth policies.
only after a platform transplant and some really new blood to resolve heir leadership crisis.
Why on earth? Small person, tiny brain, no power,
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Tina Fey said if McCain wins she is leaving the earth. Glad she won't have to. nm
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The House just passed the bill??? No wonder the earth was shaking, that was the new crator...sm
 the country is falling into!
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