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While she does deserve our thoughts and prayers, I dare say...

Posted By: onlyinamerica on 2008-10-21
In Reply to: Obama cancels events to attend grandmother's failing health. - Any bipartisan prayers to offer? nm

some will say she deserves as much respect as the left showed to Mrs. Palin's handicapped child and pregnant daughter.


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Prayers and thoughts to our friends in England
We are thinking of them
So you think that there are no prayers because

Many Christians' prayers are said in the quiet of their hearts. 


I don't see your prayer anywhere....


Your family will be in my prayers. nm
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Sending up prayers for all those of you who live...
in South Texas. That storm looks mean. I hope you and your families all get through it fine and safe. It would be nice to hear from you here after the storm passes just to know that you made it through ok.
We are all praying for Obama and He/She will answer our prayers
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You might not deserve him, but I do, and so...sm
do millions of other Americans, and we will vote for him, and he will win!
You obamamatrons will deserve what you get.

That's why polls deserve little to no attention
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You don't deserve a dignified response. nm

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The rich dont deserve a tax cut? They already pay a
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Right, Obama does not deserve to be a candidate
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Doesn't even deserve an answer
Blaming McCain and Palin for this is idiotic.
If you don't think our troops deserve BODY ARMOR

provided by the President who is all too eager to see them die but never had the guts to put is own life on the line for his country, then YOU are the one who doesn't care about our troops.


If I'm a joke, you're a disgrace and a fraud.


Yes, I think ALL kids deserve affordable healthcare.

I know a little 5-year-old boy with a cancerous brain tumor.  His family owns a local construction company and makes decent money, maybe even the $80,000 you speak of.  They still have had to have 2 fundraisers just to cover costs associated with saving this precious little boy's life, and they have "decent insurance."


So yes, I think ALL FAMILIES, regardless of income, should have access to more affordable insurance.  What happens if one of the parents becomes unemployed?  They lose their healthcare coverage.  I do not like the fact that most insurance is covered through your employer.  Many people have to work the whole time they are fighting cancer or other diseases for fear of losing their health insurance.  Even people making $80,000 per year can drown in medical bills that total in the hundreds of thousands, so I don't think their children should be excluded from CHIP healthcare either.  People making $80,000 would not get on the program for free, but at a much more reasonable cost than most insurance companies would charge.


When I say I think ALL children in the USA should have free or affordable healthcare, I mean ALL children, rich and poor.


911 and Katrina victims don't deserve compassion?
Wow....Oh that's right...he's on Fixed Noise.  That means he must be the perfect pub.  Get a grip.  The man's a radical right winger just like the rest of the crew over there.
911 and Katrina victims don't deserve compassion?
Wow....Oh that's right...he's on Fixed Noise.  That means he must be the perfect pub.  Get a grip.  The man's a radical right winger just like the rest of the crew over there, which is the why, by the way, he got kicked off CNN.  Hopefully Lou Dobbs will be next. 
Agree to disagree. I don't think we deserve Barack Obama...
and with his same stances on things, I wouldn't vote for him, I don't care what party he represented. It is not about party for me. It is about the stand of the man. And for me it is nobama, no way, no how...no matter what ticket he is running on.
He didn't deserve the Nobel Peace Prize
"What do you have against clean environment, alternative energy, jobs creation and a global warming plan?"

I don't have anything against a clean environment, alternative energy or job creation. I don't, however, buy into the global warming hype, especially when it's pushed as hard algore is trying to sell it because he is a politician and I don't trust him anymore than I trust the rest of them. There HAD to have been someone more worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize than that clown. (I'll bet he traded some of his carbon credits for votes.)
I agree. Trolls dont even deserve a response.
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How dare you!

Just because she differs from your view points doesn't mean she shouldn't be allowed to be on this board.  I for one agree with a lot of what Sam says.  This board is way right-winged.  It needs people like Sam on here to bring focus to the other side.  If you don't care for her posts and opinions, be the bigger person and ignore them instead of whining and complaining. 


I'M WITH YOU SAM!!! 


How dare you

You know, you really hurt my feelings today.  I know that probably doesn't matter to you, but today I really realized that this is the world I am bringing my daughter up in and there is nothing I can do about it...nothing.  Mean, hurtful people.  I would lay down my life for my daughter without a thought to save her, but there is nothing I can do to save her from this cold, hateful world that we live in.  How dare you treat me like that?  How dare you be so mean!  How can people act like this?  I'm not some sheltered idiot who doesn't know which way is up, but I have never had anyone be so hurtful and mean in my adult life.  If my FOUR-YEAR-OLD ever talked to anyone in the way that you just talked to me, there would be some serious disciplinary action.  Shame on you. 


How dare he!!
You mean Obama actually wants to encourage teenagers and young adults to be decent human beings and productive members of society. The horror of it is beyond comprehension!!
How dare they!!
How dare homosexuals want the right to be married and enjoy the benefits thereof, just like "normal people." How dare they "draw attention to themselves" demanding rights and equality.

Give me a break. Anyone that wants to commit themselves to a relationship should have the ability to do so. Why should a gay couple not be allowed to "live happily ever after" and have the rights (and problems) that go with it.

If you don't "believe" in gay marriage, than don't marry someone of your own sex.
Big Bad, How Dare You
Forget Rufus Wainwright in the music list? ;-)
Read if you dare






RUSH: My friends, there's another reason why the Sheehan thing is going to derail, why this train is going to derail, and that's because look at who her public relations outfit is. It's the mainstream press. They don't have universal respect anymore. They don't even have any concept of how they are harming her cause by championing it, but I want to talk about something larger here with you liberals. I know there are a lot of you here in the audience. We hear from you now and then, and it may be a waste of my time but I'm going to try it anyway. But I think you all need to look at things differently than you do. You need to take your focus off of government. You know how absurd it is for us to hear that a war is ignoble because the president's kids aren't there or because congressmen's kids aren't there? Do you know how irrelevant that is? Do you know who makes this country work? Can I ask you people on the left if you have the slightest idea who makes this country work? Because I'll tell you, it's not the president, I don't care who he is, and it's not Congress, and I don't care who they are. The people who make this country work are the people, and they're people you've never heard of. They are people unlike Cindy Sheehan, who are not seeking publicity, they are not seeking fame. They take life seriously. They try to mix their work and pleasure into a proper balance. They try to raise their kids the right way. They're doing everything they can to follow the straight-and-narrow. They sometimes slip off, but the people who make this country work, the fabled average American. That's who you liberals condemn, whether you know it or not. That's who you impugn. It's always been the case.

World War II was not won by Eisenhower. World War II was not won by FDR. World War II was not won by any particular leader. World War II was not won by Patton. Everybody played a role. But without the sons and daughters of the American people, this country wouldn't amount to anything. It is the people who make this country work, and the ease with which those of you on the left disparage the people in this country while you seek to focus all attention on government, is a sight to behold, and it is why you are losing elections; it is why you are losing favor; it is why you are becoming more fringe and extreme and kooky, because you've lost touch. You've lost contact. You've lost all ability to understand who it is that comprises the heart and soul of this country. You have no clue who the backbone of this country is; but I will tell you this: it's not Cindy Sheehan and it's not one member of her entourage in a ditch in
Crawford, Texas. Those people are a bunch of squatters. Those people right now are contributing nothing to the greatness or future of this country. Neither are the members of the media who are down there trying to elevate all those people in the ditch to be superheroes. There's not one of them that comes anywhere near rating the title of hero. They are nothing but a bunch of squatters who are miserable and unhappy for who knows whatever reasons and deciding to take it out on people who they think have control over their lives. In this case, with a bunch of liberals, it's government. You want government to have control over your life, you want government to be able to do this and that for your friends and neighbors and help you, but the simple truth of this country is that it's the people who make this country work. It is the people who comprise the economy.

It is the people who comprise the morality. It is the people of this country who determine the ethics. It is the people of this country, and that's what you're upset about because you're in the minority. The people of this country, the people who make this country work differ from you in tremendous ways. They are religious. They are God-fearing. They respect values and morality. They know what's right and they know what's wrong, and they do their best to abide. You are offended by all that, claiming they don't have the right to make such decisions, while you sit around and make no decisions whatsoever because you're willing to totally put your life in the hands of some liberal politician and that will take you off the hook for having to make any decision about your life or anybody else's. Well, that's not how the country works. This country works on the basis of an educated and informed public seeking excellence in their own lives to whatever degree they wish it. People pursuing life the best they can, using freedom, God-given freedom -- and for you to call here and to come up with something as irrelevant as to say this war is not worth it because the president's kids aren't there or because nobody from Washington's kids are there doesn't say a thing about the war effort, doesn't say one thing about it, doesn't make it noble, doesn't make it ignoble, doesn't make it anything, because the war is taking place. Whether you agree with the fact that it's going on or not, we all have come to the decision that it's best that we win it. You haven't even joined us on that. You hope we lose it. You want to lose it because you want to embarrass the leaders of the country. What must your lives be like?



 








 


Are your lives so endless, baseless, and void of substance that the only pleasure you get from life is through watching the misery of others and trying to cause misery for others? Are you so incapable of enjoying the God-given gift of life that you've got, that you can only do so when other people are suffering, hopefully as a result of actions you've taken? What must it be like to be you people? What must it be like to get up every day and to have to go to your calendar and write "Destroy somebody today. Destroy something today. Destroy America today"? What must that be like? When you look out across the country and you see a burgeoning economy, you see the lone world superpower -- and it's not because of any president, and it's not because of any weapon, and it's not because of any military, it's because of the people of this country and our values and our Constitution. We're no different than any other people, other than we have freedom -- and you don't even like that! You only want freedom for yourselves, defined as you define it. So people can't say things that offend you, they can't do things that offend you, we can't have stupid names for sports teams. The absurdity of this whole political correctness movement. We can't have some team called the Redskins, we can't have some team called the Seminoles. Don't you understand these team names do it, it's an honor? Do you think a school calls itself the Seminoles to make fun of the Seminoles or are they trying to build themselves up? It's a matter of pride. But you people are so miserably unhappy that you have to find ways to constantly make everybody else around you unhappy, and so you go hang around with a woman who's crazed out of her mind in a ditch in Crawford, Texas, and then you have the audacity to call here and tell us that you are the great ones, that you're the ones that care, that you're the ones that have this country's best interests at heart.

If it were up to you people we wouldn't exist as a country today, you would have given in to the Soviets long ago, you would have appeased the Soviet communists. You would appease Iran right now, you probably wouldn't have cared about the war on terror or the bombing on 9/11. You would have sought out bin Laden and tried to make a deal with him, and this country exists today only because we have been able to prevent you from gaining power to do that kind of thing. We've had our run-ins with Neville Chamberlain types and you're the modern incarnation. To sit here, to actually have the gall to call this program and advance something you think as an intellectual argument that Cindy Sheehan's cause is noble, because the president's daughters aren't in Iraq, or congressmen's sons and daughters aren't in Iraq, have you no shame? Do you realize whose sons and daughters are? Do you understand it's voluntary? Do you understand these are people who are offering their lives in sacrifice for things they believe in? And what do you do? You come along and you try to disabuse them of their belief by telling them that they're wrong and that their country sucks. Well, to the extent that they think their country sucks it's because of you and your efforts to constantly undermine this country's best interests and our desires and efforts to protect the people of this country and to bring freedom to as many others in this world as possible. You people on the left used to be the ones that were all for civil rights around the world. You were all for human rights. Now all of a sudden you couldn't care less about the status of Iraqis. You couldn't care less. It's gotten so absurd, now that Howard Dean said on TV that if this new constitution is enacted as written, that the women of Iraq are going to be worse off than they were under Saddam Hussein.

Do you realize how patently absurd and bordering on insane that comment is? No, you don't. Because you think so little of your own country, you think so little of this president, you have such little faith in the ideals that have combined to make this a great country, that you assume it's worse here than anywhere else, and the places that it is bad is because of us, either through environmental pollution, or whatever cockamamie, asinine, stupid, ignoramus idea you can come up with. It's gotten to the point now where it is common to go on Democrat websites and read about the pleasure it would bring if the president were assassinated. It is now common to read letters to the editors in newspapers which say it would be fun if bin Laden actually came over here and slit Bush's throat, which is what a supporter of Sheehan wrote to a letter of the editor in one of the newspapers in this country. Yes, it would have been better if bin Laden would have just come here and slit Bush's throat. Do you have any idea how you people are perceived? Do you have the slightest idea how the decent people who make this country work perceive you? It is not with any respect. It is with contempt and it's with sorrow. But it's also with this realization: This country, if it is to survive, cannot be turned over to you people to lead and to run, because we will cease to exist as the
United States the day that happens, and mark my word. It ain't going to happen.


why not have him fired, I mean how dare he?
for that matter, fire anyone and everyone who ever says or does anything you do not agree with. There you go, problem solved. Maybe you could all go to Alaska to live and only allow people there who agree with you and you could have your own world while you are at it and never be bothered with the poor or the sick, you know - I mean, what nerve these people have right?
How dare you post here and not go through . . .
pages of past posts to make sure it hasn't already been discussed. You misinformed liberal!!! LOL.
how dare you say that anyone died for no...
reason!!!? Saddam was a terrible mass murderer and needed to be taken care of. We should have never let it get this far. I am sure that the men and women who died did not think that it was for no reason.
Yep....they don't dare leave the US

The Hague (World Court) has pretty much charged Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush with war crimes.


on January 26, United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak insisted that the pursuit of Bush and members of his administration for the torture of terror war prisoners is crucial if justice is to be served.

Nowak added that he believes enough evidence exists currently to proceed with the prosecution of Donald Rumsfeld, the former Secretary of Defense who was credited as being highly influential in the crafting and push for America's invasion of Iraq and the prior administration's abusive interrogation tactics.


And I'm told to forget about Bush - NO FREAKING WAY! This sucks out loud!!!


Exactly right, we all deserve human rights, ALL OF GOD'S CHILDREN, MUSLIM, WHITE, RACIST, REPUB,
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link posted here - don't ya dare look
http://meaningfuldistractions.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/news_national_enquirer_promises_more_on_alleged_sarah_palin_affair_78787/
Right on...freedom of speech...how dare we have that right
you included, of course.
You mean the other women who dare to present
Americans are not a monolith.
Don't you dare suggest we don't pray to the same God
you are bad
Puleeze -- dare we look at the dem posts?
Palintology, ageism, free trade (like that's a bad word), Keating 5, feminist's vote.  My list could go on.  It's not a 1-way street.  I can admit that; too bad you can't.
Lest we forget accountability, how-dare you ask?
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That's how I feel. How dare the victims be judged.sm
while we sit cumfy in front of our PCs and eat popcorn. That kind of stuff makes me SICK!


How dare they assault SP the long suffering
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How dare you suggest that people are voting
for Obama based on emotion?  The statistics are 25 million people that are voting don't even watch or read the news and don't have a clue what is really going on with this campaign, and guess what, those (I will say politely) UNINFORMED people are the ones that McPalin are targeting heavily.  Boy, talk about desperation, when you have to resort to praying on the gullible ignorant to get a vote!
No it's not. Use google, if you dare. Some states are raising the age to 30
I have no problem with children who need healthcare. Children. Not adults.

It's just another social welfare program, when they raise the age to 30 (as if age 25 wasn't old enough to be still called a child).




Okay. I dared. *yawn* Now, tell me something *davebuoy* Do YOU *dare* to put on the uniform and go

Or are you like the rest of your lowly cowardly bunch who just don't have the guts?


That's a rhetorical question, davie.  It's obvious that Rush speaks for you, so I already know the cowardly answer.


By the way, don't you think it's rather childish to post something about one of your heroes on the liberal board and then to run back to the conservative board, bragging about it, like you did something special?  If anything, I'm guessing you're in the elephant dog house now, daviebuoy, because it didn't incite the anger and hatefulness that you were so obviously trying to achieve.  I realize things have been slow for all you hate addicts lately, but don't despair.  One of your beloved "ushes" (be it "B" or "R") is bound to do something else controversial, unethical or illegal before long, so things will heat up again soon enough, and all you hate addicts will get your "fix."  Must be very painful for you, though, with all that hatred and intolerance just busting at the seams! 


You dare speak of character. Open your eyes to
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hahahah!! You are so insecure that you do not even dare to post a username and STICK to it..nm
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It's a dark day in America when voters dare to feel inspired and hopeful?
rasberries
...more thoughts
My feeling is that there aren't many cartoon characters that are as scary as he is.  And he does appear to be a remorseless person, capable of just about anything.  He has been a big orchestrator of the untruths Bush has mouthed, especially during the campaign.  I can't believe he is as ignorant as it appears he was in this Plame case and that's why it's so interesting as it slowly unfolds.  He seems much too devious to be caught up in something like this.
My thoughts on this
This is a twerpy, paranoid person with a tiny mind who is trying to be a tyrant on this board, as are most of the rude posters who appear on here from time to time.  Unfortunately on some level they always succeed in their need to upset this board because they are very hard to ignore, like an annoying insect.
My thoughts

Unfortunately even though many of us feel we are responsible citizens on this earth, we can't rely on all our neighbors (whether globally or down the block) to also take the same care we do.  Recycling still is random from state to state and lots of folks still choose not to recycle....and therefore over time it has to become a mandate.  Historically that is when laws are needed, when some folks can be responsible but others can't.  It seems an odd riddle that older laws we easily embrace and defend (many which are kind of silly but still on the lawbooks), but yet as the need for new or revised ones crop up we resist and feel our liberty is at risk.


I'm not sure why anyone would balk at conservation.....or even many aspects of environmentalism.  My greatest hope is to leave this earth in as good of shape as possible for my children and grandchildren as well as other's children and grandchildren.  Unfortunately at this point I am hoping we can at least leave a habitable planet in 50 years to our future generations.  It is my true belief that our human discord will very soon become secondary to a global environmental breakdown that is a greater threat than any war has ever been.  Hope I am wrong. 


Thanks for you thoughts
It's not that I dislike Hillary, it's just that I have some misgivings about her and admit I know little about her political stance....and I like Obama and Edwards without any reservation.  I would gladly vote for her if she gets the nomination...that I do know!!
a few thoughts

Although I tend to be Pro-Choice I am very much against abortion.  The whole idea of it is disturbing for me, to say the least.  As far as the death penalty, I think that's a bad idea also, but there are times when I find it hard to feel sympathy for the person being put to death.....I guess I'm human. 


Anyway, I've always wondered why the political belief systems align in such an odd manner, as you have alluded to.  It seems one group is totally against abortion but support the death penalty, support aggression in our foreign policy, support most military actions, and take a negative, hard line on government funding of programs to help the poor, particularly children of the poor.  Alternately, liberals seem to be more peaceful, war-as-a-last-resort, question the ethics of a death penalty, generosity toward those less fortunate by choice or by circumstance, yet also support Pro-Choice.  This has always puzzled me.


I am an agnostic and happy to let the mystery be without pretending and hoping to know the answers to the unknowable.  I find spiritualism most evident in nature and feel that man needs to protect and love his/her planet.  After all, it's all we have.  We need to be as conservation-minded as possible and reign in overpopulation to start with.....


Some other thoughts
I agree that if she is running for the white house and it is a very close race she had every right to stay in. Nobody was telling her to get out, they were simply pointing out the mathemetical facts that there is no way she can win because she is too far behind. I've never heard any news people saying she should get out. So her & Bill's argument that everyone is picking on her and everyone is telling her to get out does not have a leg to stand on (especially because when asked to name who in the news is saying she should get out they don't have a name to give). She has fought hard (sometimes dirty - but then again each candidate fights dirty). So while I agree that she should stay in when it is so close, what I don't agree with is just ignoring the facts and treating Obama like he doesn't matter and that his supporters that voted for him don't matter. I don't agree with her doing "fuzzy math" and saying certain states that voted for him - well they don't matter. When she does her math about her having more votes, she is not counting Maine, Iowa and some other state, and she is giving some reason why she is not counting their vote (as though it's a legitimate reason). She says Michigan counts but Iowa doesn't? And New York counts but South Carolina doesn't? And this other state she won counts but one that Barack one doesn't? And she thinks that is legitimate??? And she thinks it perfectly fine that she had her name on the ballot but he didn't when they both agreed not to. They said today that the people who wanted to vote for Obama couldn't because his name was not on the ballot. And they had a total id*iot today saying, yeah, so? That is the most demoralizing thing to say as a reply. Everyone was in an uproar when Cheney said "so" when they said 1/3 of America doesn't agree to the war. Well the people should be equally in an uproar when not both candidates name is on the ticket when they BOTH agreed that it would be that way (i.e. neither name on the ballot). She and her supporters are just coming outright saying...only my votes count. If you voted for Obama, well your votes don't count. And I'm going to fight hard so that only the people that voted for me will be counted. To heck with the rest of you. That is very disrespectful and that is what angers me. Especially since she is saying "every vote should count". I also do not like being in the same category that she is saying all white women are voting for her. The fact is more white woman over 55 are voting for her. The white women under 55 and a lot of the "white" people who have had some college education are voting for Obama. She likes to inflate it to include all white people. She makes it sound as if only black people are voting for him. She doesn't care if the Obama supporters are upset or not, only her side matters to her. Which again it is a race and while I do understand what she is doing I don't approve. She has had a hard campaign (so has Obama). I also think its funny that so many republicans are trying to push people to vote for Hillary. That is because they know McCain will win hands over Hillary. Yes nobody wants another 3rd Bush term with McCain but there are so many more that do not want a 3rd Clinton term. Has to make you think, why are the republicans so determined to get her in? Because they know they will win. They don't want Obama in there because they know they can't win against him. As for her supporters...they are saying they won't vote for Obama, but when it comes down to it they will vote for him. The reason I believe they will is that Hillary has said through her campaign the most important thing is getting a Democrat in there. I hope (I was going to say I have no doubt, however, I do have a little doubt so hope is a better term), I hope that she does everything to bring a Democrat (Obama) into the white house. A lot of people support her and if they support and believe in her then they should support her decidion to get Obama elected and will vote for him. On the other hand, that little bit of doubt that creeps into my mind is that I have a sinking feeling she is going to sabatage his campaign so that McCain will be elected due to her actions and she will run again in 4 years. I guess her attempts at smearing Obama with the Rev Wright didn't work (it was her senior campaign officials that pushed that story) and now they are trying something else. We'll see how it goes. One thing she definitely needs to do is quell some of supporters into not looking like total id*iots with their screaming rampages of how its being stolen from her by a "black man" and what they say about "nobody is going to vote for a black man" and that it is just handed to Barack because he is black then McCain is going to win. This argument is biggotted and stu*pid and she should make a speech to her supporters telling them the truth and they need to put their difference of opinion aside and do the right thing. This is a contest and he is winning fair! That's the plain and simple truth. It's time to bring the democratic party together, not tear it apart for their own personal gain.
Just a few thoughts.

First of all, if your sister has been attending the same church that long and doesn't know what they are preaching about......that is just sad.  As for Rev. Wright, he is all about African American Theology.  Look it up.......that kind of belief is downright scary.  It is all black power and no equality to it.  It is racism and that is that.


Finally, my husband and I use the comment of being thrown under the bus all the time.  The has been around long before the McCain campaign.