Why, then, does this post and those like it bother you if you are an independent?
Posted By: lall on 2009-05-01
In Reply to: How old are you? 12 or something? - Trigger Happy
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I didn't bother to read your post....
I couldn't get past your heading "staying on the subject" .... the only "subject" is you..... Obama's "subject". You probably don't get that either! LOL
Don't bother, I hate YouTube, and any idiot can post anything they want there.....sm
and make it as slanted as they want. I will take my news and views from the regular new outlets, watch for myself on C-Span, etc., and even then I sometimes wonder who is pulling the strings. Until we realize and acknowledge what racism truly is (and I am not talking about Johnny Cochran and the "race card" to get OJ off), we will be a doomed race, we either all work together for the nation and PUT DOWN people who have these rad neck, ignorant views and DO NOT TOLERATE IT, or put a nice icing or coating on it....in the words of the great O, and Harry Truman before him, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig, and you can call that editorial "comic" satire or whatever, but it is still racist garbage. IMHO
Good post, Independent! nm
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I am independent....independent of either party.
I am registered with neither. And I am not really interested in your interpretation of what a Republican is or is not.
I was talking about Obama's stand as an Illinois state senator. Since I do not live in Illinois and was not one of his constituents that rather rude indictment of what I would or would not do is moot. Had I been a resident of Illinois you can bet your sweet bippy there would have been plenty of senator/representative contact.
Not voting for Obama DOES give me a clear conscience. Whatever calamity he wreaks, it will not be because I put him in charge. If he gets his way we will become a socialist state. That is something I do NOT want to be a part of. PERIOD.
Don't bother
I won't be back to read it.
I hope you will see what is truly going on in your viewing this morning. I hope you will also see all the good Americans who are walking around the astrodome giving out water and supplies. I hope you see that the Southern Baptists and Samaritan's Purse and other groups are setting up kitchens, mobile showers, and counseling stations. I hope that you see how the gangs, rapists and murders are making this difficult on everyone. I hope you can get your index finger out of the pointing position and roll up your sleeves with the rest of good Americans are doing and do what you can do. There will be time to dissect this all later as far as whole failed who etc., but that is after all these people are taking care of. I agree that government has been slow in acting for reasons I'm yet to understand, but I also know that we don't need the government to take care of these people. If we all pitch in and sacrifice these people will get the leg up they need to start putting their lives together.
Why bother?
I used to enjoy these boards and the differing viewpoints, but I think people are starting to show their true colors. Enjoy yourselves. However, I hope those that read here do their own research using unbiased sources and make up their own minds and don't just take anything here as fact without doing so.
oh don't bother....
...I'll just answer my own question. It's because you're one of the dems on this board....*sigh*
Let me also just save you the trouble and call myself a couple dozen names in the process.
&*()&*(WE&R)*D&*()&)&*(#&&*()#$&%
There. Now you feel better, don't you?
why bother?
Sam, surely you know that these libs have nothing but empty emotion in their replies. They're mad that Hillary wasn't chosen (but so are we!), mad this, mad that, just bitter people who do exactly as the drive-bys do.
They won't debate you openly and fairly because they can't. If they bring forth something worth discussing I'll reply. These people aren't acting like adults.
While I applaud your initial efforts, I have to wonder why you continue the abuse. They don't absorb what you say. All they do is just hurl something back at you. And why? Because Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder.
Why stoop to that level?
Does this not bother anyone?
I mean if this wasn't talking about a presidential candidate, would this bother you who support Obama? I want an honest answer, not "oh this is just a scare tactic" "they are mingling his words" tell me the truth - do you feel that what they were doing in Illinois was okay? And do you think Obama was right in what he said?
This isn't a presidential issue, this is a humanity issue. If anyone besides Obama said that, what would you think of them?
You know what Sam? Don't bother
They are so blinded by the light that shines from Obama that they are willing to follow anything he says. There's no reasoning. Next he'll be saying "lets kill any of the disfigured or mentally disabled people in this nation so we don't have to care for them" and they'll all say "WE UNDERSTAND!"
Understanding the killing of infants, my God what has this nation become?
You seem to know everything, why should I bother...
you really don't care what I think anyway.
I won't even bother to ask why you see those to
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I'm not going to bother
doing the research but didn't Barrack Obama and John McCain actually work together on some bill or other?
Wow, it really DOES bother you!
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Please don't bother....
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Again, this just really doesn't bother me.
Having lived all over the world, I consider myself lucky to be here. I don't see this as a big deal. But then, that's me.
I agree. I try not to let it bother me,
I live in a town with a military base, and sending my friends and neighbors to Iraq unequipped and unprepared is THAT BAD. He has blood on his hands, and Hilary voted for the war too, so no, I am NOT voting for her either. Blood for oil is un-Christian, un-American, and unacceptable!!!
Does this bother you about Palin?
The first time she applied for a passport was in 2007.
yeah, don't bother
Anyone who doesn't agree with your beliefs is blinded, cult-like, blah, blah, blah.
Do you even bother to get your head out of your
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Shoo fly, don't bother me!! Why would
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If you aren't going to bother
to look for the information to back that up then why bother bringing it up?
please don't bother, I wouldn't want you to have
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Sweetie, some of us don't bother
taking too much time with the ignorant..they just don't understand. Suffice it to say, your Messiah will take care of you soon. He's been in office for a few hours now and your check should be in the mail.
Why did you bother to answer? Oh, I get it.
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I was not questioned by you, and I would not bother
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It doesn't bother my husband. sm
Does the fact that Clinton dodged the draft and wrote that he loathed the military bother you?
Nor do you bother engaging in the process beyond
negativity, smears and prognostications of gloom and doom, much like a miniscule segment of the fringes whom you claim you do not follow.
One thing I will not bother engaging in....... sm
will be any further discourse with you. I don't care for your phony high-brow attitude, so I won't bother replying to your posts. If you don't like my "negativity, smears and prognostications of gloom and doom" then please refrain from replying to my posts.
It didn't bother them to cause this mess....
won't bother them to perpetuate it. Amazing...and people just lap it up. Amazing, ain't it?
Doesn't bother me...it's the republican
Obama spends millions of his party's money. What's your complaint there? Obviously nothing. And the millions he is going to spend for his big 'ole party in a few days....it ain't coming from his own pocket. It'll be all those donations.
So what's your gripe?
Not gonna bother. your posts are way too
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Thank you, sam. I will not bother posting yet one more time
your claim about Emanuel being liberal. I assume you have seen at least one of the 3 posts I have already put up here. That said, I appreciate the wait and see. That is really all we can do right now and I for one truly believe that once the selection process is concluded, you may feel just a little bit better. That is what I am pulling for myself...a DIVERSITY in viewpoints with regard to selection of advisors, cabinent and minstry appointments.
Did you bother to read the part that said....
The Bush Administration admits there could be no oil production in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge until 2018 and production would not peak until 2027. [U.S. Department of Energy]
Did you bother to hear ANY of Obama's little
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Don't bother trying to yank our chain.
You lose.
These people did not bother to listen to the sm
WHOLE speech. They have to wait to get the distorted version from Fixed Noise. It is very obvious that facts have no worth to the "Chicken Little Clique"; they only care about trying to convince the other sheep that they profess to know what they're talking about.
Dont bother with () - she's NUTS.
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The affair doesn't bother me - the lies do
I have no idea what what happened between them that he would have had an affair. It doesn't even bother me if he had an affair during her illness. What bothers me is his lies. When he first had the affair he should have come out and stated so to his wife or whoever it involved. It is none of the publics business to know whether he had an affair or not. This is his most personal and private life. However, if it does surface he should not lie about it.
Doesn't the double standard bother you?
It's not her addiction that bothers me it's the stealing and the double standard by her husband. McCain puts other people in jail and rips apart families for drug crimes. I bet there are at least 100 infants in foster care in AZ right now because their mom tested +.
It doesnt bother dems at all regarding O's radical
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Did you bother to read the endorsement or simply
Think about it.
Excuse me. Did you bother to read the articles and
In every single reference I provided for you, the phrase "OFFICE of the President Elect" appears....in 1969, 1989, 2000 as well as in the language of the Act. Don't care what your fringe sites say....especially Malkin. Wouldn't be the first time they invented phoney outrage over fairy tales they spin, and it won't be the last. Read the language of the ACT that created the OFFICE of the President Elect, then the articles I provided, and you might see what I mean....or NOT. You seem to have an affinity for make-believe.
BTW, I know my history, but I believe you were trying to ask me specifically about civics. The electoral college makes the election official. However, it has always been customary to refer to the successful candidate on the Nov 4 election as the President Elect. The media is not the driving force behind this...tradition is.
Truly, I wouldn't bother.......you can spoon feed them
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Dont even bother responding to her posts -
() is most definitely NOT playing with a full deck.
Sam, how can you say you are an independent? sm
From your posts it appears you are a staunch republican. You know the saying, if it walks and quacks like a duck, Quack, Quack!
I too am an independent
In independent to me means not belonging to either party. You can be an independent and fervently support one candidate over the other. It means finding the better of the worst and not buying into the party line. I think people need to start comparing Obama's expereince with McCain's experience. If you want to compare Palin with anyone you need to compare her with the opposite parties VP candidate. But people are comparing Obama to Palin because there is no way they can win if they compare him to McCain. I am an independent, but the more I read, the more I listen to all the networks, the more I hear Palin's family getting "politically gang raped" the more I want to know why and the less I trust the liberals. I am an independent. Years ago I supported Bill Clinton til the end, I didn't support either Gore or Bush and the next term I didn't support either Kerry or Bush. Now I support McCain. That is because I can stand back and look at what both McCain & Obama have done. How they have voted in the senate, what they have done with their careers, how they want to lead the country, etc. and I can view it all with an open mind. That makes me and independent.
I am an independent with....
conservative values and some liberal ideas. Extremest? Don't know what that means. Never been called an extremest. When I hear that I keep thinking about some person who ties themself to a tree so it won't be cut down, but if it means I'm open to anything and will listen to all viewpoints and think on my own then yes that I am and glad to be one.
There's a lot I don't like that the republicans have done, but so much more I don't like that the democrats have done. However, what's worse is I don't like what the media and some of the posters on this board have come to. It is unbearable and they just pick and pick about absolutely nothing and spew lies and because of them I don't think I would ever vote for Obama.
As for Ms. Couric? She is a complete and utter moronian. No she is not running for president. She is not even qualified to give a decent interview and be respective of the people she interviews. If she thought Kissinger said that they she didn't do her research and should be the last person to interview anyone. She should go back to the morning show and gossip. She is a far left liberal and her condescending attitute exuberates. She is never that disrepectful to the democrats that she interviews. The media is so one-sided (on both sides - I'm not excluding anyone from blame), but at least I have the fortitude to listen to both sides and decide for myself who I like better.
I made one comment and you think I'm going to vote for McCain? Oh, boy do you have that one wrong. I have mixed feelings about the debate and I thought Obama did well on certain issues and I thought McCain did well on other issues. I hear the liberal media trashing McCain and for what (the way he looked, because he wasn't wearing a flag pin?) The liberals are too interested in "looks" they ignore the issues. I close my eyes and listen to each candidate, that way I don't see if they look to the right when the should look to the left, smile at an inapproate moment or any of that utter nonsense each accuses the other of.
I'll tell you I do not like the democrats proposal to the bail out. They want to give a free pass to the people who created the mess and have the average working american pay for it. Maybe seeing as you are so "for" this, you can supply your address and they can bill you the $10,500 it will cost each family and you can pay my share cos I don't have that kind of money!
As for the debate, I understood Obama more on what he was saying. McCain's answers were too complicated and left me wondering what he was talking about. However, it does not mean I liked what Obama was saying. As for foreign policy, sorry but taking a vacation in a foreign country doesn't qualify you as being knowledgeable in foreign policies.
McCain stated perfectly well and it's on record that he voted against a lot of what Bush was proposing. To say its going to be more of the same is a scare tactic and lie and you are just going along with the party line.
I hate Rush Limbaugh! I think he's a biggoted pig who can't listen to the truth if it stood in front of his face, and he puts down anyone who doesn't agree with him. At the same time I can't stand Sean Hannity, Alan Colmes, Mike Savage, Ray Talafero, Keith Oberman, Rachel Maddow (well she's actually not too bad) or any other right or left wing slime-bag who doesn't look at the whole picture with open eyes and trashes one side with false information while propping up their side with inflated opinions.
I do have to admit - Obama does seem to be on the side of the average americans, but cripes....look at his voting record. Sure, anyone can say their going to do this and that for you, but look at what they have done in the past, how they have voted, etc.
Here are my likes and dislikes -
What I like about Obama - He seems to have fresh ideas (which we can use right now). He's a very eloquent speaker, nice looking, nice looking family. When he says he cares about you I believe it. If he becomes president I can deal with that. I'm not against him, just people need to know what are his plans and he needs to stop lying to us. When he lies about one thing what else is he lying about. And he never said he would cut out unnecessary things that we don't need. So that tells me he's going to have all these programs and we will end up paying for them just like when Clinton was in.
What I don't like - I don't trust that he will do all the things he promises. We will be taxed to the hilt to pay for all the programs that we will not benefit from. While I like that he is willing to talk to our enemies I don't think he's knowledgeable enough about foreign policies, etc.
While I like that he's knowledgable about the economy I don't like his solutions for how to fix it (it screws us while keeping his rich friends rich!)
What I like about John McCain - He doesn't vote straight republican. He is in the middle. His comment about Obama being so far to the left he couldn't reach over was stup!d. To call someone left or right is just a gimmick. It means nothing (at least to me). I like and feel safe with McCain's knowlege of foreign policies. I feel that McCain will fight for the Americans so we don't end up paying for congresses mistakes. To say that if McCain gets in only the rich will get richer because its the same exact thing if Obama gets in there. Obama is rich and surrounds himself with the rich and those 1% rich they are always talking about with the republicans, well they have their 1% richest friends too. We saw it when Clinton was in office.
What I don't like about McCain is I wish he was younger (although Biden is around the same age). I wish he had a little more color (his skin is very white). I wish he would talk in simpler terms I could understand, and I wish he would stop saying "my friends" in every other sentance.
All in all I believe presidents are just talking heads. They surround themselves with the people who make the decisions. They don't think on their own. They carry out their orders from their superiors.
As for "big government getting cutbacks under Bush". Big government was getting cutbacks under Clinton. This is not anything new and not prone to one party or the other. However Clinton's legacy is that we saw NAFTA and the beginning of our jobs being shipped overseas.
As for talking about Obama and Palin's inexperience. They are both inexperienced. But I also remember...so was John Adams, George Washington, and all the other leaders in the beginning. The difference for me is that Obama is running for President. Palin is only running for VP. And I trust the people that McCain will surround himself with more than the people that Obama will surround himself with.
So because I bring up that I heard Kissinger interviewed and he said that he never said he would sit down and talk to enemies without preconditions you make an assumption that I'm an extremist and conservative. If I heard on the news that something McCain said was a lie you would probably be cheering me on. You just don't like when your candidate does something wrong and points it out.
I think you should read a post and keep your hatred to yourself, and who is Henry?
I am independent and a free thinker and I am proud of it!
I am independent as well and see what happens
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I am an independent. s/m
I lean left sometimes, yes. Sometimes I lean far right. I personally do not believe in abortion and I believe homosexuality is a sin and a choice people make. That's pretty right, isn't it?
My take......from an independent
When you factor in ALL the illegals that should NOT be voting that were voting and then factor in ALL the pushed in fraudulent voters who didn't even know who Obama's running mate was (they thought it WAS Palin), then it's no surprise Obama won. After all, he did promise all "illegals" they could get a drivers license and all moochers they could get free money, so gee, what motivation! A no-brainer!!
Factor in the hard working folks who were voting out of shear fear of the economy, the women who were afraid they wouldn't have the "right" to murder an unborn child, and you have yourself a president, for good or for bad.
Flame all you want....the truth usually does incite.
I still say Ron Paul would have been much better for this country. Much smaller government, no IRS, close our borders against illegals....the list goes on and on.
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