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Yeah, let her take us back 40 years so everyone can have

Posted By: Yo. (NM) on 2008-09-06
In Reply to: Yeah, at least she is not friends or associates with - radicals like the big O is. nm

at least a sister, daughter, cousin, grandchild, mother, wife, neighbor or aunt who dies from a botched illegal abortion. Then, we can all start over again.

Sarah hasn't earned the right to run this country. Obama has clearly been working night and day, the proof is in the number in his audience worldwide. Even Canada and Germany want Obama. The truth is in the numbers.

The United States today finds itself threatened by three interlocking crises. The first of these crises is economic and cultural, the second political, and the third military. All three share this characteristic: They are of the GOP making.
the good ole' boys don't deserve a second chance. The grand ole party has failed the people by selling out to China to pay for a war and at the same time, gave tax cuts to the wealthiest and corporations (they provide jobs my arse). McCain with Lieberman and the voting jews will have us at war with Iran and well, looks like a battle with russia is in the making as we speak. How do you figure this country will be a better place with four wars, a deficit that will send the country into bankrupty and a female VP who has the statemanship of a redneck fundamentalist.


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Go back 5 years...
Change Bush to Clinton...see a similarity.
As far as about 5 years back......... sm
I took my kids to a single-practice family physician who had an EMR system in his office. Each exam room had a computer terminal and he or the nurse would sit down with the patient and go over a preformatted program in the computer and used a touch screen to enter information. The information was then fed into a preformatted form, printed and put into the chart. No MT whatsoever was involved. I believe this is what a true EMR is referring to. I can see, in the foreseeable future, health care professionals being provided with PDAs with preformatted information in which they just use the touch screen to enter patient data and transfer that information to the mainframe system to generate the EMR.

GP is right....time to start finding something out of MT altogether. There may be other jobs in the medical field where our talents and knowledge could be useful, but I don't think it is sitting at a keyboard in our own homes in our jammies.
Come back in a couple of years....sm
and let me know how you like shopping at a grocery store that has no food on the shelves or how you like going to the "free" medical clinic that is dirty and unsanitary and run by quacks IF you are able to get in to see one of the quacks and then let me know how true you think this is.

The truth is, if Obama is elected and lives to be president (and no, that is not a threat by any means) then we will be living in a communist nation with no civil liberties. That's a deep dark hole to have to dig out of. Look how long it took Russia to break free of communism. Communism is homeless and it is coming to the United States looking for a place to live.
and don't forget, he paid the gov't back in something like 7 years? sm
Gourdpainter, you and I must be about the same age. I remember Lee Iacoca. He borrowed millions of dollars to bail out Chrysler. AND HE PAID IT BACK!! Before the note was due. That's the kind of person we need in Washington. A no-nonsense type of guy. One who will take it to the fat cats in their Armani suits and Gucci shoes and tell them..WE ARE FED UP AND PO'D AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.

Ok, off my soapbox.
GOP Rep Michele Bachmann would like throw us back 60 years
un-American Activities Committee to investigate alleged anti-American sentiments and subversive agendas of House and Senate members.  Raise you hand if you want a republican committe to define patriotism, what it means to be an American and to institutionalize punitive measures for people who do not fall in line? 
Yeah, let's just hope it is 4 years and
nm
Yeah those nasty old rich. Well, after 4 years of Obama...
there certainly won't be those anymore...except those closest to him, and you won't be a bit better off than you are right now. And when the rich aren't there anymore, who is going to pay for your health care then? You might want to have a contingency plan, because if Obama doesn't have the rich to tax anymore, how is HE going to pay for your health care? Another thing to think about...they will all move to Europe before they allow him to bleed them dry. Survival of the fittest. Where do you think you will fall in that food chain?

Just asking.
Yeah. It's been a while back and a lot has happened.
That's pretty much what I meant. They held hearings, brought charges, presented their case, proved their allegations. The mandate was to decide whether or not this constituted "high crimes and misdemeanors." Perjury is not pretty...but lying about affairs is not uncommon. Lying about the war...another story. In any case, the charges failed to meet the criteria of high crimes and misdemeanors and they voted not to impeach / remove from office.

I think "booming" is a relative concept. For example, as compared to now, booming it was. Another measure might be if people were better off when he left office than we he took office. The 90s, for the most part, is remembered as a decade of prosperity. I may come back a little later and comment further because I am transcribing today, but for the time being, you may find this article of interest. Would like to hear your comments one way or the other.
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0109-04.htm

I agree with about the working class, but I do believe that generally speaking, the dollar had more purchasing power then than now. I know that as an MT and single parent, the boom sort of skipped over my house, but on the other hands, things did seem easier and better than now.

You will notice I left out a few things that others might think of as "a good thing." Restoration of the death penalty would be one....NAFTA another. IMO, NAFTA has been a disaster and I considered it to be Clinton's biggest boondoggle. For the most part, I though Clinton was a "cool" pres. I will say this much. He is doing some good things now (William J. Clinton Foundation), but aging does not seem to agree with him, in terms of his personality. He just doesn't seem quite as "cool" as he was before....maybe I've gotten older too.

I appreciate your post and may revisit this later this evening.

yeah, go back 50 yr, and take responsibility
for your behavior -- ie, get pregnant, you HAVE the child, even if you choose to give him/her up for adoption. yeah, go back to when we still had some morals, ethics, courage, determination, etc etc. that would be The Way !!
Yeah, and guess who he'll blame the whole four years....yep...bush...nm

Yeah.....right. Same back at ya...You have all hit my posts 2-3 times....
pile on, try to stop any and all kind of opposition....that doesn't sound like democracy to me. Lockstep party line and if an independent thought every occurred it died a lonely death. Tsk tsk.
Yeah, we got to get those rape rooms back and pronto...
You know, so the rapists (Hussein's henchmen) can practice their sexual preferrence freely....
Yeah, this was back in the 80's right when Donny was shaking his hand...sm
I agree Saddam is scum, but the sanctions, and military pressure during the 80's and 90's and pretty much strapped him. Did he need to be taken out, WELL DUH, YEAH. I just argue the fact that 1) it is not our responsibility. If the people were too afraid to rise against him how can they stand on their own? That is being evidenced with the training of the Iraqi police and Iraqi military. 2) Was this the way to do it? An all out occupation. That country is at the brink of a civil war.
Yeah, did Elvis come back to life? Is this hollywood?
nm
Yeah, well, I seem to remember Democrat saying she wasn't African-American awhile back. sm
So which is it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta

For this you have to wait at least 3 years and 8 months , maybe 7 years and 8 mohths...nm
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Not quite- 2 years Catholic, 2 years Muslim. NM
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yeah, yeah, yeah.....what he failed to mention...
is that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage meltdown which is responsible for the wall street meltdown. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank...totally to blame. Blocked every attemmpt by Bush Admin and yes, McCain, to regulate fannie/freddie. Dems certainly have selective memories...convenient bouts of amnesia. lol.
get on back, neocon, get on back
Tell ya what, sweetheart, last I checked this is the LIBERAL BOARD and I havent been banned, as I dont break the rules, so I can stay as long as I want..Seems to me, conservative, you are the one who should mosey on by and get back to drink more Kook-Aid. 
Oh, yeah yeah, whatever. There's plenty of satan here, that is for sure!

Yeah, yeah, everything is funny. Wont
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Yeah, yeah, yeah....still protesting too much. (nm)
nm
In 100 years, no one will that's for sure. NM

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Could be, he's never come on TV? Years ago maybe?
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oh, okay, but he followed him for 20 years!
nm
Which was 4 years ago....
nm
You were 16 years old once...
what if it was said about you, about your daughter if you had one....or about your mother when you were 16?.....come ON now. YOu know how vulnerable girls are at that age. That was a really really really LOW below the belt hit. Mean and nasty.
Except for the first 6 years.
In other words, 75% of the time. Even when they did, they didn't. It's kinda hard to advance a meaningful agenda when being subjected to the acid ink in the runaway veto pen.
I think it's because he's up in years
I also get the same impression, but to be realistic one must consider that she may become President if something were to happen to him. 
what, are you now 2 years old?
i just have to roll my eyes sometimes.
Well, a few years ago when we had that...
stocket market tank (all though it did not last all that long) was enough for me...took my 401K money (not a huge amount, but I need it to be there) and put it in traditional IRA's that in federally insured bank. I am not young enough to let it build back up with stock market ups and downs. Younger folks a lot more years in the work force can wait for it to build back up (and it always has), but I can't take the risk.

I don't think small private banks are at risk.

It was much worse than this when Carter was in the White House and we managed to get through that...this too shall pass. A little saying I once heard seems to sum it up...."When one door closes, another opens, but it is he11 in the hallway for awhile." :)
The only way we'd get another 8 years is

if the dems are still in control against a pub president.


I heard the above comment in either an ad or in the debate itself and I almost flipped. You don't hear much about it yet, but it will come out sooner or later (and hopefully sooner).


Yes in in the last two years
the econmy took a dive. Gas prices rose and made the price of everything soar. That is what you get under democratic leadership.
I did years ago n/m
nm
That's over three years old......you just now
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For 2 years out of 8
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I'm sure you will be for the next 4 years
all the way to the bank with other people's hard earned money...
maybe in 100 years

Our kids will tell stories about us working six days a week, all hours of the day and night to stay at home with them.  About how we had no health insurance, but somehow we managed to pay those hospital bills.  How the mortgage broker tried to get us to refinance one more time, but we saw through the scam.  How did we ever make a car payment for 5 years without going crazy?  How we competed with workers in a virtual world and still managed to out produce them. Maybe they will think that we were pretty tough too.  I think we are!


Just the first of many to come in the next 4 years....
sorry, I have to raise taxes; sorry, I have to continue the war in Iraq; sorry, I can't provide healthcare for everyone; sorry, I have to change the constitution; sorry, I can't keep any of the promises I made while campaigning; sorry, I have no experience dealing with terrorists, sorry, I fooled you into voting for me.
GP, my DH and I have been saying this for years. sm
We have long been advocates of sending the illegals back, closing our borders, cut the pork, etc. I am so glad there are others out there. This is going to my sens and reps. Especially as DH gave them all an earful yesterday. We need everybody out there to send this along.
I don't have 10-20 years. I have 4

unless I want to work until I'm 70 or 80. What kind of mind will i have then? Will I be able to figure out what a doc is saying?


I'll probably be one of those homeless people in another 10 years unless they straighten out all the problems. I certainly will not be able afford the taxes we pay on our property, even though it's free and clear of a mortgage.  At tha rate they expect taxes to rise, I'll be out on the streets.


The O will not be able to stop it. There's too many factors changing the economy. I'm just hoping things wil l straighten out, but I no longer have any faith in our government, no matter who runs the country. The so-called respresentaves are only out for themselves in the past few years and it doesn't matter who's in charge.


Write your congressmen or senators and what do you get? A "canned" letter that they will take your suggestions "under consideration"  and  "are doing whatever they can to fix the situation".  I'm tired of  it.  It's the same old, same old.


O has reneged on some of his promises already. He spoke in all those other countries when he was running for prez (and isn't there a law against going to a foreign country to make promises(?) if he becomes president? He smoothed over so many countires that they thought they were finally going to get a prez that would straighten out the U.S. and all of a sudden, he is for Israel and against the Muslin terrorists communities. "Scuse me, butl lying to other ountries doesm't cut it.


I can only hope that O will keep some of his other promises bvut I don't see how he can with the economy the way it is at this pointl So all those people who voted for O with the hope of change (remember those who stated they would not have to worry about their mortgage, etc.), it ain't gonna happen.


O is a smooth talker and I almost fell for his ideas, but when I started to really think about it, there's no way he can accomplish all he plans to do, even in 8 yeras.


Well, I'll get off my soap box now. These opinions are mine and mine alone. You may not agree with my thoughts, but there's no reason to bash me for my honest opinion.


 


Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago...(sm)
However, since two years ago and the advent of the democratic congress, I am a tad worse....

but still better than the Clinton years.


Bracing for getting even worse under the O.


It's a fact that the economy always downturns under a democratic congress....double whammy with a democrat in the white house, too.....oh joy, what a ride we're all in for.
Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago...(sm)
However, since two years ago and the democratic majority in congress, I am a bit worse, down 20% in earnings.

But still much, much better than the Clinton years.


Bracing for getting even worse under Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Franks, and that whole lot.


It's a fact of economics, that there is always a downturn under a democratic congress....double whammy with a democrat in the white house, too.....oh joy, what a ride we're all in for.
Where were you for the first 6 years
Perhaps you were the one on another planet. Their failures led to the Dems getting control of Congress in the first place.
he's 10 years old

you total doofus. Make him a villain.  Guess Art Linkletter was an enabler.


 


Yes, but how many years did it take?

According to the chart you posted, it took 5 years for it to take effect. People don't have 5 years. They are drowning now.


Some of the stimulus package plans have government programs in that supposedly are to be taken over by the states after 3 years. How can the states absorb these $$ when they're drowning already?


Now, this morning, I heard on the news that they may be nationalizing some banks and, no, it wasn't Fox. I also saw a clip where O was being interviewed by Tim Russert in 1996 and O stated he was NOT going to run for president in 2008. He was elected as a Senator of Illinois and that was going to be his job.   He flipped pretty quick, didn't he?


Throughout the years...
I've seen several documentaries on TV about this kind of behavior in Mexico.  The kidnappings and murderings have been going on for quite some time really.  However, they are getting much worse.  Government is losing to the drug cartel and the country is about to go bankrupt.  I would seriously warn anyone considering going to Mexico.  This isn't all fun and games.  This isn't the time for "that couldn't possibly happen to me" attitudes.  This is serious stuff.  Stay the heck out of Mexico!
Well he was 8 years old.......
11 years ago before there was so much talk about all of this.  When I was 8 years old I had a little boyfriend that I would hold hands with, etc.  Well, I'm not sure I could call it an "attraction" but I knew I wanted a boyfriend, not a girlfriend.  He knew he wanted a boyfriend even at that young age.  He is 19 now.
Several years ago
my dad said to dig a canal across the US/Mexico border and fill it with allegators.  LMAO!
Maybe I should have said 35 to 40 years ago...
... i.e. at the height of the hippie "free love" era. I know I certainly heard it a LOT from some of the people around me; although I wonder now that I am old and cynical whether the girls blew off marriage as a "piece of paper" 'cause the guys persuaded them that a piece of paper wasn't necessary to prove their love, thus neatly paving the way to duck out of the relationship later, at will, bypassing those pesky legal entanglements....

And for what it's worth, Donny Osmond never did float my boat; by the time he came along I had long since outgrown his apparent demographic.