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Yes, arrogant.. distasteful, yet I am not surprised

Posted By: Obama is a hypocrite in so many ways.nm on 2009-06-02
In Reply to: Saw another estimate of $30 grand, and then a report that - the White House refused to say how much it cost.

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I believe it is all distasteful -
Kaydie, did not want to argue with you, I just knew that I had already seen articles about Obama being hung by a noose on a college campus before today - was not even a Halloween decoration - it was some fraternity or something.

Would love to keep talking with you!
Distasteful? (sm)
You mean like comparing Obama to Hitler?  More double standards.  I'm not trying to come down on you, but earlier you actually compared Obama to Hitler, and yet you are all over this person for expressing her opinion. 
You don't find it the least bit distasteful....
that they are making a 68 million dollar profit killing babies? Well of course not...what am I thinking. If slicing and dicing babies, sucking their brains out with needles, and if that doesn't work, just put them in the dirty laundry room until they go ahead and die, little annoyances that they are...why should you care if there is a $68 million dollar profit involved?? Sheesh.
That is really out line and distasteful
Very disrespectful to her as a person.  I am not going to read your posts anymore because you dont write what I like. 
distasteful display of vulgarity

Ann Coulter on the View today.  Need I go on?  She accused Barbara Walters (Jewish) of reading aloud a passage of AC's new book as if she were reading Mein Kampf. She then over-talked every statement the other panelists made.


There is no reason to have such a person featured on network TV.  Her views have no value.  Her demeanor is surly and disrespectful.  I blame the dullards of this country for being receptive to such "entertainment."  I don't believe the programs showcase her for any other reason than controversy and ratings.  I'm talking to you, National Enquirer readers.


 


 


distasteful display of vulgarity

Ann Coulter on the View today.  Need I go on?  She accused Barbara Walters (Jewish) of reading aloud a passage of AC's new book as if she were reading Mein Kampf. She then over-talked every statement the other panelists made.


There is no reason to have such a person featured on network TV.  Her views have no value.  Her demeanor is surly and disrespectful.  I blame the dullards of this country for being receptive to such "entertainment."  I don't believe the programs showcase her for any other reason than controversy and ratings.  I'm talking to you, National Enquirer readers.


 


 


Not surprised at all. Scary, but not surprised.
God help us all get through the next three years. 
I'm surprised that you're surprised.
You really thought voting for the O was going to produce a miracle, that things were going to be different? Better, maybe? Wow.
Not surprised at all by the violence. Only surprised
People are p****d, especially the middle class. They can't bend much further without snapping. My prediction is that if the US gov'mt. keeps letting all the bank and stockmarket criminals off with just a slap on the wrist, eventually the public is going to take matters into its own hands. If I were that guy who bilked people out of millions in that Ponzi scheme, I'd be very, very afraid. He should be in jail if for no other reason than his own protection. I'm willing to bet that in the coming year or two, all sorts of s**t is going to start hitting the proverbial fan.
Arrogant, very arrogant...
Again your presumptions that you know best. What on earth makes you presume that the Iraq people are depending on us? Depending on us for what? They only thing the Iraqi people can depend on from the United States is more pain. What bubble are you living in?

I am confident that once we pull out the military and start sending envoys to help rebuild the country with monetary support under the direction of the Iraqi people, and not the other way around, we may find some kind of resolution, but not until then.

Your way of thinking only provokes further military action. If we are doing such a great job how did Sadar come into power with half his people in government? Boy, that military action sure is paying off isn't it?


The man is not arrogant. Why would
he admit to being a rock star? He's a politician, smart, and very easy on the eyes. George Clooney has been voted sexiest man of the year and does he go around saying it? In his time JFK would have been considered a rock star. Did that hinder his ability to run the country? Senator Obama is a popular man running for a very public office and the public likes him.
And you are not? Arrogant that is? nm
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arrogant?
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arrogant?
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This is so arrogant I don't even know
where to start.

The woman who posted yesterday that "God" told her to vote for Obama is EXACTLY like you. Exactly. Just someone so unevolved she needs the "voice of the chief" whispering in the ear because of a rudimentary inner voice.

Satan is just an externalization, a personification, of your own evil thoughts.
okay, not only negative but arrogant!
A bit of humility would be in order.

Good breeding consists of concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person. - Mark Twain
I don't think she's arrogant but pointing out the
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How arrogant to suggest she should go elsewhere.
His/her opinions are just as good as your's. 
What an arrogant mofo.

Unskilled?  As much as he is worried about healthcare you would think he would give some credit to those of us who make sure medical information is typed correctly.  They don't care about quality unless the account complains.  So because we are "unskilled" that makes it okay for our jobs to go to friggin India.  To me...not only should that kind of information NOT go out of the country, but it is like he is picking and choosing which jobs are important and which ones are not. 


Our jobs should be kept here not only because many people need these kind of work but also because sending pertinent information, like SS#s, out of country, to me, is a matter of national security.  What an ars!


He is an insulting, arrogant man.
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Ah, but I believe Obama is arrogant enough

 to think that he can successfully do what every European socialist society could not.  They just lacked the secret ingredient - HIM!  If something we do fails, we will JUST DO IT MORE!  


Has that not been how the War on Poverty, the War on Drugs, the War on Crime, the War on Venereal Disease, Outcome-Based Education, etc. have gone?


Dems Arrogant?
Past 8 years. Nothing says arrogance like George "Dumbya" Bush and Dlck (nuff said) Cheney!

Republicans (politicians - not party members) are the most arrogant bunch of hypocrites on the face of the earth!
What do you know about me? What an arrogant piece of work you are.
Guess what, we went to school and work our butts off and pay for everything we have.  We're not rich either.  But I don't hold disdain for those who made it bigger than I.  It's a free country. 
Obama did that to intimidate. He is arrogant.
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You left out the word arrogant.
I watched him get off his Air Force One plane last night. He looked so proud. Never waved, just gave the look, "ME, ME, ME."

His speech he made yesterday was horrible, actually terrifying. He made some want to run in fear, but run to what? After HIS speech yesterday (being realistic here) we are going down, all of us. Major trickle effect in our economy is going to occur. People will be starting to cut back on cable TV, not going out to eat, etc., and then those employees in restaurants and businesses will be out of jobs and it goes on and on.

I thought somewhere in the stimulus it will show a break for buyers to buy new cars. Who the heck has money to buy a 25,000 to 45,000 dollar car IF you are out of a job. Sure you can do that if you have a job, but NOT a job. You need food on the table instead. It just does not look good, especially after O's speech yesterday. He loves to make you run in fear and likes to threaten ya which does not work for me. I need positive remarks, not negative.
ARROGANT? The Decider had that down to a science!
Landing on that aircraft carrier with his fake package - hahahahaha - Mission Accomplished all right! See ya in the soup kitchen!
you are pathetic, intolaerant, arrogant, etc....
She is an US citizsen. like you, she is the supervisor, she did not ASK before if the office policies allow to put up a 3 x 4 foot American flag in the OFFICE.

Your are soooo wrong and stubborn and you do not even get it.

Yessiree. The elite, arrogant, audacious,
racist, Muslim, terrorist, lying, liberal, radical, leftie, hate-mongering, socialist, Obotic, Kool-Aid sipping, Messianic, commies and their fellow comrades, followers of the Chosen One and all his worshiping sheeple sure are a bodacious bunch, dude.

Here's the deal. This is a political opinion forum. There are dueling countdowns going on and unless I missed something, I'm not breaking any rules by injecting a third countdown here.
Arrogant bullies - and I like your word "thugs" too.
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RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS are arrogant and ignorant.
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You sound arrogant and pompous - please read my message
Please keep an open mind and listen to what I have to say and try and see it how others do. I've been reading your previous posts and you sound like you are on a mission to save all the aborted babies (before being aborted). This is the way I feel...I believe in a higher power (our Creator). I feel so strongly that he is a powerful and just God. I believe that when a soul dies it goes to the other side and will live forever in a world of love and will be taken care of. I would rather know that a soul that has been aborted is now living on the other side with our creator in a life of love and compassion being taken care of by the people who have passed on before us. I would rather know they are there rather than having to spend an eternity in he!! on this earth. A baby that lives but was going to be aborted will never be loved the way a baby should be loved. For those with stories that their mother was going to abort but decided to keep you and you were born and you had the most loving family that is wonderful. But I think we all know very well that too many times it doesn't work out like that. The baby is born into a world where the mother blames it for everything bad that happens to her. I have a freind who's mother blames her for being born. She tells her if she never had her then her (the mother) life would have been so much better and she would have been able to accomplish everything she wanted to do, but society forced her into having the baby and now everything is my friends fault and my friend has never felt the kind of love most of us have when growing up. It is so so so sad to see and unfortunately it happens a lot. So as horrible as abortion may seem to some, I think its a Godsend to the unborn baby that is now in the heavens with our God. When being aborted the time length between life and death is short which is a lot better than having to live their whole lives (sometimes over 80 years) in a life of he!!

There are so many reasons that people have to have abortions and I don't think it is anyone's right to judge them for their actions.

I also believe after a person departs this earth and meets our Creator they will have to face some serious times. If you have an abortion of necessity that is one thing, but if you aborted a fetus that is developed or had been born already that is a whole other situation - again between the creator and the person.

I think its very very important that a woman is allowed to make a serious decision like this between themselves, their doctor and nobody else. No political figure or some religious figure giving their opinions of what should be done based on what they believe.

So, that is just my opinion.
ANTI-RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS are even more arrogant and ignorant.
Q.E.D., my blind friend.
And I think you have to read all of my posts, I am responding to arrogant inflammatory remarks, whic
Substantiation, no real substance, and yet these people are CHOOSING to start devisive threads with divisive remarks on this board, even making statements that historically are 100% inaccurate. Yes, I pray for unity, compassion, wisdom, etc., but the rabid Republicans on this board (and I do not mean all Rep., just a few loud ones), want to harshy judge and condemnn the new administration without giving things a chance, what would you call that? What about the "hit and run" posts by right wingers who continue to stir the pot with incorrect, slanted, and inflammatory remarks here? Fair is fair, I try to back up each statement I make with historical facts, I try to see both points of view (wow, I have actually agreed with Republicans on certain subjects!), but this board is not about me, or you, it is about all of us trying to hash out all the many struggles this nation now has, and with restraint, intelligence, and care look at each problem and try to help fix it. America comes first. Period.
Yes, I just bet you are surprised. nm
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Thank you! I'm not a bit surprised

unfortunately.


Why am I not surprised?

Is anyone really surprised
by the ***leak*** of the NIE document. I remember Bob Graham, senator from my state, Florida, standing on the floor of congress and predicting this almost verbatim. Many of us agreed with him. Many who did not have changed their minds over the years. I don't find any of this **breaking news.**
Now, why am I not surprised?
But as a self-professed "Bush fan", I would expect nothing less.
Are you surprised? sm
Just more of O's "transparent" tactics. When the questions get tough, he hides behind his standard "I had no idea that was going on" statement.

I was always taught and have always believed that you are known by the company you keep. All of his associates, past and present, have been crooks, liars, bomb builders and just basic scum bags.
I would be surprised if it did.
At this point, the House Repubs need to propose a new bill, since the old one was too unpopular for even the Dems to sell to their constituency.

But the Dems have to save face by not letting the Repubs get credit for putting together a more favorable bill.

I suspect in the end it will be a bill quite similar to the one already voted down, with a few more consessions in the taxpayers' favor.

Of course, both sides will take credit.

Both sides will blame the other for the crisis in the first place.

And both will be corret.
Why am I not surprised
www.BlackBoxVoting.org

Also, watch the DVD "Uncounted" -- a real eye-opener.

The link below is to one of the Blackboxvoting forums
Ha ha! Why am I not surprised?!
If nothing else, this election campaign sure has been ENTERTAINING!
I'm not surprised
to hear you bring God into it. You're who Julian Jaynes was talking about when he talked about the unevolved faction of humanity, the ones who have to have literal interpretations of the Bible because they have an under-developed consciousness and have to recreate the "voice of the chief."

If Jesus knew about the offensive slime you spew, he would never stop puking.

And by the way, Obama has said a number of times that he will stop giving tax breaks to companies that offshore.
I, for one, am not surprised by this...sm
I always thought that Obama was a socialist, about two steps from being a marxist, on his way to being a communist.

If true, this goes to show exactly who and what Obama is about.


Chilling, indeed. No wonder I can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Whenever he's questioned on certain issues, he's too busy trying to sound like not what he is, but still fails miserably.

He sounds like someone hiding something, and it's not pretty.
I'm not surprised
you envision and embrace the negative extreme of everything, given the whole fire & brimstone thing. Good grief. It must be miserable being locked inside that kind of paranoia. You have my sympathy.
I would be surprised
if you had not heard at least a few names on this list, which is, by no means, exhaustive.

Many of the most famous serial killers (e.g., Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrew Cunanan, John Wayne Gacy, Henry Lee Lucas, Ottis Toole, etc.) were homosexuals, but they became widely known due to the nature of their crimes or the identities of their victims, not because they in any way represent serial killers generally.

To name a few:

Gay/Homosexual Serial Killers
Name # of People
Killed Year Killer's Home Location of Murders Notes Birth death
Jeffrey Dahmer 17 1978, 1988-91 Milwaukee Milwaukee and Chicago homosexual cannibal. He was killed by another inmate while in prison. 21 May 1960 28 November 1994
Andrew Cunanan 5 1997 San Diego, Calif. Minnesota; Chicago, IL; South Beach, FL killed fashion designer Gianni Versace 31 August 1969 23 July 1997
Gilles DE Rais 300+ 1430s France France associate of Joan of Arc
Luis Alfredo Garavito 140+ Colombia Colombia Gay serial killer who murdered over 140 boys in Columbia. 25 January 1957
Randy Steven Kraft 65 (est.) 1971 to 1983 Oregon, Michigan, etc. "Score Card Killer"
Michael Swango 35 - 60 1983-97 Ohio, Illinois, New York, South Dakota, Virginia "Doctor of Death" -- killed hospital patients
Andrei Chikatilo 52 until 1992 Russia Russia
Fritz Haarmann 40 (est.) until 1924 Germany Germany "Butcher Of Hanover"
John Wayne Gacy 33 until 1978 Chicago Chicago bisexual; 27 of his victims (young boys he seduced) were found buried in crawlspace under his house. Executed in Joliet, IL. 17 March 1942 10 May 1994
Patrick Wayne Kearney 28+ 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. gay cruising areas of Hollywood
David D. Hill 28? 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. Hollywood Patrick Kearney's lover; confessed to being co-killer with Kearney, but police weren't sure about the extent of his involvement
Hans Grans 27+ until 1924 Germany Germany accommplice and love of Haarmann, the "Butcher Of Hanover"
Wayne Williams 27 1979-81 Atlanta Atlanta Gay serial killer who preyed mostly on young black male hustlers. 27 May 1958
Dean Corll 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas
Elmer Wayne Henley 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas Bisexual. Victims were young boys who he kidnapped and tortured. 9 May 1956
David Owen Brooks 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas
Donald Harvey 25 - 40 (est.) 1970-71 London, Kentucky Kentucky
Juan Corona 25 1971 From Mexico; moved to Yuba City, CA in 1950s Yuba City, Calif. Born in Mexico. All of his victims were men that he first raped, and then killed with a machete over the span of six weeks. Presently resides in Corcoran State Prison. Juan Corona's brother is Natividad, the gay, owner of the Guadalajara cafe in Marysville, CA. 1934
Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo 21 (est.) until 1989 Matamoros, Mexico Matamoros, Mexico "Matamoros Cult Killer"
Larry Eyler 19 1980s Chicago Illinois and Indiana
Huang Yong 17+ 2001-2003 Henan Province, China Henan Province, China Gay. Executed. Murdered boys that he flirted with and picked up at internet cafes. Saved their belts as souvenirs. His 18th victim escaped, leading to his arrest. 1974 26 December 2003
Dennis Nilsen 16 1978-83 U.K. U.K.
Marcelo Costa de Andrade 14 until 1991 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
William Bonin 12+ 1979-80 Orange County, Calif. Orange County, Calif.
Henry Lee Lucas 12+ 1970s and 80s Most in Texas, Southeastern U.S. 23 August 1936 12 March 2001
Ottis Toole 12+ 1970s and 80s West Coast, Florida, etc. accomplice of Henry Lee Lucas
Vaughn Greenwood 11+ 1974-75 Los Angeles Los Angeles
Richard Speck 8+ 1966 Chicago Chicago married, bisexual
Cayetano Hernandez 8 1963 Yerba Buena, Mexico Mexico
Eleazor Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico Mexico
David Bullock 6+ 1981-82 New York City New York
Vernon Butts 6+ 1979-80 Calif. Orange County, Calif. accomplice of William Bonin
Paul Bateson 6 ? (est.) 1977-78 New York City New York City
Marc Dutroux 6 1995-1996 Belgium Belgium Bisexual. He is unusual among gay serial killers, in that his victims were all girls, who he kidnapped and tortured before killing. One of most notorious serial killers in Belgium's history. 6 November 1956
Michael Terry 6 1980-86 Atlanta Georgia, Ohio, South Carolina
Orville Lynn Majors 6 Indiana Vermillion County Hospital, Indiana
Charles Cohen 5+ Delaware Delaware, San Francisco, New York, Miami, and New Orleans
Arthur Gary Bishop 5 1984 Utah Utah Utah serial killer of young boys. Years before his murder spree, in 1978, he had been excommunicated from the LDS Church. Bishop was an active homosexual and was no longer a member of the LDS Church when he became a serial killer. Executed in Utah State Prison. He said of his crimes, "With great sadness and remorse, I realize that I allowed myself to be misled by Satan. Pornography was not the only negative influence in my life, but its effect on me was devastating. I am a homosexual pedophile convicted of murder, and pornography was a determining factor in my downfall." 1951 10 June 1988
Michael Lupo 4+ 1986 from Italy London
Peter Moore 4 1995 north Wales north Wales
Westley Allan Dodd 3+ Washingon Washington, Oregon
David P. Brown
(a.k.a. Nathaniel Bar-Jonah) 3+ 2000 Massachusetts Montana David Paul Brown. Victims were all young boys. 15 February 1957
Charles Manson 3+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Los Angeles Bisexual. One of nation's most famous serial killers. Murdered actress Sharon Tate, the wife of film director Roman Polanski. Deeply interested in the occult. 12 November 1934
David Edward Maust 5+ 1981; 2003 Germany; Galveston, TX (1981); Hammond, IL (2003) Gay. Killed teenage boys, usually by stabbing 5 April 1954
Bruce Davis 2+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Los Angeles Charles Manson accomplice
Erik Menendez 2 20 August 1989 Beverly Hills, CA Beverly Hills, CA with his straight brother Lyle, Erik killed his parents (Jose Menendez and Kitty Menendez). Their trial was a major national news story. 27 November 1971

Although homosexual murderers of single victims are too numerous to list here, a number of particularly famous ones include: Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb (the wealthy and academically bright gay Chicago couple who murdered a boy in 1924 just for fun; their story became one of the nation's most famous murder cases, and was the basis for many movies, including Hitchcock's film "Rope"); Armin Meiwes (the sexually deviant German cannibal known as "Der Metzgermeister" - The Master Butcher, who met a victim over the Internet who he ate and killed); John E. du Pont (the gay member of the wealthy du Pont famil who shot Olympic wrestler David Schultz to death); Gary Hirte (Waupaca, WI high school senior who admitted to killing 37-year-old substitute teacher Glenn Kopitske); Karla Homolka (Canadian lesbian who murdered her own sister). Other notable gay violent criminals include Kenneth Parnell (paid $500 to "purchase" a young black boy named Steven Stayner, who he then raped and kidnapped); John Wojtowicz (whose bank robbery inspired the movie Dog Day Afternoon).




Serial Killers who were Lesbians
Name # of People
Killed Year Killer's Home Location of Murders Notes
Magdalena Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico Mexico
Aileen Wuornos 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"
Tyria Moore 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"
Catherine Wood 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients
Gwen Graham 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients




Why am I not surprised...(sm)

The pub way of thinking on this is to go ahead and let those workers lose their jobs, then save the auto industry, and then they can hire back those workers or others without any job security, benefits, etc...   


Under republican rule, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and that obviously hasn't worked out so well).  So, who on this board is getting richer, and if you are getting poorer, can you really afford (financially) to be republican?


Why am I not surprised...(sm)

The pub way of thinking on this is to go ahead and let those workers lose their jobs, then save the auto industry, and then they can hire back those workers or others without any job security, benefits, etc...   


Under republican rule, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and that obviously hasn't worked out so well).  So, who on this board is getting richer, and if you are getting poorer, can you really afford (financially) to be republican?


Yes, it surprised me.

Normally, equality (except for Fox) and sense in her posts.


Can't say I'm surprised........... sm
but I do find it a little ridiculous that they would come down on a Bible study group and not the men's Monday night footbal groups or poker night groups or Cub Scout meetings, etc. This is but one more sad example of how our rights are being stripped away little by little. And before anyone says that Christians should meet in churches only, I would ask what will you do when your rights as a citizen are infringed upon?
You would be surprised how much of what you have said I agree with.