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so many people stand by Barrack Obama.  When you actually stop to look at the whole picture....it shows that Barrack Obama is not the type of person that we can trust to be the president of our country. 

His associations with Ayers and Rev. Wright is enough to call into question his character and those aren't the only two questionable associations.  His dealings with ACORN.  The idea that he spent money for education not focusing on testing but focusing or pushing radical ideas into education. 

Now he is being audited for some of the contributions he received (which I'm sure will be swept under the rug just like every thing else).  The fact that people were encouraging people to vote an absentee ballet in Ohio and bringing people in by the bus loads....this opens up the question of voter fraud. 

I do not feel comfortable with someone so extreme left as Obama.  We need someone closer to the middle.  How are they going to reach over the aisle when he is so extreme left? 

His attending Rev. Wright's church for 20 years, being married by him, baptisting his children, refusing to denouce him until his party made him denounce him.....just shows me that he is a racist and truly believes what Rev. Wright preaches. 

As for him leading our country....his government programs will not work.  We have no money for it.  He plans to end the war in Iraq to pay for his government programs, but he knows we can't just pull out of Iraq and now there is trouble brewing in Pakistan.  What will Obama do if we have to fight over in Pakistan?  His plans just will not work and no one will listen to that.  All they hear is change.  A promise that Obama cannot keep. 

In his four years in the senate, he has asks for billions of dollars worth of earmarks.  He received the second highest amount of money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I see no change coming from what he has done during his seat in the senate. 

How can people support a man like this?  I beg you all to look at the big picture.  Stop listening to what you hear on TV and actually dig in and do the research.  If people would take their blinders off and listen to more than just the promise of change, they would realize that Barrack Obama has a very sketchy political history and associations with scary individuals and associations with ACORN that bullied people into getting bad loans...which is also what helped lead to this economic meltdown. 

Taxes will go up with Obama in office and that includes the middle class as well.  His government programs will cost so much that the cost of these programs will not be paid for by higher taxes to the rich alone.  It isn't feasible.

God help us all if Obama becomes the next President of the USA.  I cringe at the very thought.

However, my post topic was literally just a couple posts below yours and it seemed unlikely that you would have not noticed the duplication in monikers.  This board may indeed be available world-wide, however, there is a fairly small group of folks who routinely post.

My point was simply that your posting may have erroneously led folks to believe that I was posting both pro and anti-liberal messages within a few posts of each other.  That would be rather confusing to say the least and it would be thoughtless to confuse and/or mislead anyone who might be using this board, whether in the U.S. or outside of the U.S. 

By george you are right!!!  EVERY SINGLE POSTER ON THIS BOARD IS ME!!!!!!  Except for Observer, of course, and a few old American Girl postings!  I admit it, I am guilty, you have caught me.  I have authored every single post you read on here.  It keeps me very very busy but it's worth it!!!

There I have "fessed up and I feel sooooooooo much better.  Whew!  Thank you Observer for helping me to do the right thing.

assuming that she and her husband aren't working their butts off....at least she isn't living beyond her means regardless of how many hours she works.  At least she doesn't want a handout from the government and money given to her that she hasn't earned.  There are people making as much as she does a year and are well beyond their means with toys, cars, homes, etc.  Crying that they are victims and requesting a handout. 

The most disgusting thing that I have ever seen was during Christmas.  Every year my church does an angel tree.  Every year I would take names of children and their ages and their interest and go out and buy them gifts so they would have something for Christmas.  I wanted to help.  What kid doesn't deserve a nice Christmas....ya know.  So I went out and spent a lot of money on these kids.  Come to find out....these kids weren't poor.  Their parents drove newer and more expensive cars than I drove.  The parents were only out for a free handout....and that sickens me.  I felt used.  I so wanted to help people who really needed help.  Not people who were just looking for a free handout come Christmas time. 

Unions don't have any clout anymore thanks to the Reagan years.  Without the ability to strike, what can they do?  While my husband, as a retiree, has excellent benefits, it is something that is not available to workers retiring now and in the future.  Fact is, we are worried that his benefits may be cut.  They have raised the retirement age and will have to pay more for their medical insurance.  Why?  Because they have lost members.  People who worked at CF with my husband and weren't of retirement age for the most part had to take non-union jobs which paid far less causing many of them to lose their homes and file bankruptcy.  Did anyone hear about them?  I guess not.  That was in 2001 and truckers are worse off today than they were then as are most American workers.

People have let the unions that people fought for go down the tubes.  American workers bought into the "unions have outlived their usefulness, aren't needed any more" from the Reagan years.  Unhuh and we see how much the employers care about their employees now.  Unions are no different than politics.  They are no better or worse than the people who support them.  Basically the clout of the unions came from people that had the fortitude to stand up for their rights and stand together.  Unfortunately we don't have that any more, it's more like, "I've got mine, sorry about you."

Unfortunately, since McCain says Reagan is his hero, I expect if he is elected the American workers can expect to be further shafted.  JMO of course.

If the quotes above are from them, then I would say they either sucked at reading or weren't very good Muslims.  And I'm sure noone from YOUR church would have a lopsided view of anything.  But we wouldn't know anything about that, because all we know is what YOU say, and so far you're heading towards strike three on that count.

However, I think most of Europe was happy we prevented them from all becoming German speakers - twice - how quickly they forget.  The victims of genocidal nutjobs in Bosnia and Kosovo were pretty glad to see us.  Kuwait was pretty grateful we kept Hussein from annexing their country. I believe the majority of Iraquis are delighted to be rid of him and his mistreatment and genocide of his own citizens. 

Like it or not, the US has been in the business of subduing bullies since the turn of the last century.  And when we don't step in, we're treated as though we're committing the atrocities ourselves.  Why didn't we get involved?  Because we don't like the victims? Because we have no economic or strategic interest in the region?  Damned if we do, damned if we don't. 

The citizens of North Korea might be very appreciative to be relieved of their own little megalomaniac, who starves his people in order to fund missile parades.   Obama feels we do not have the right to decide who has nuclear weapons and who does not, so we'll probably never find out how the North Korean people feel, until KJI lobs a missile right at us. 

And when there is a disease outbreak, a famine, hurricane, an earthquake or a tsunami anywhere in the world, who is the first to offer assistance?  Like Ghostbusters:  Who ya gonna call?  And we are expected to step up and take care of it.

I think other countries are starting to suspect that their calls will begin to go unanswered.  Certainly, voluntary charitable donations will be reduced in the US, and with a $7 trillion (that's a 7 with 12 zeros) US budget deficit, they might be getting the ideal they are on their own now.

and I understand exactly what you're saying, and yes, the same thing might happen, but I just don't think it will.  This retaliation that you talked about was in the face of what the middle east saw as an endless war/occupation.  That's not the case now.  They aren't facing Bush now (in their eyes a war monger).  They are facing a guy that is willing to work with the people, is coming clean about previous actions involving the middle east, and who is keeping Israel at bay.  It's not that I think Obama is that wonderful, it's that the circumstances are that different.

Something else....everyone (including those in the middle east) already know there are more pics.  It's not like that's been kept a secret.  Granted, for some it may be worse to actually see the pics than to just know they are there, but I think if there was going to be another retaliation it would have already happened just from the knowledge that they are there.

only answer is hop around the globe, play eenie, meenie, miney, moe and choose another sovereign country to invade.

It didn't happen here.....yet.  But every single terrorism expert believes it's not a matter of if but a matter of WHEN.  And Bush is helping them by not protecting us satisfactorily and by providing THEM with OTJ training in Iraq.

Yes, I think I'm beginning to "get" it.

As far as what I feel about Conservatives, I've voted Republican a number of times in my life, so don't tell me what I think because you haven't a clue.  I vote for the candidate, not the party, and if Bush and Kerry are the best this country can offer up, we need to worry about much more than terrorists.

The others that you mention -- they are correct, too (about being on to me).  Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by leaving them out.

Oops, that's right -- all those others are ME!!!!!

People have not and do not stay informed.  I don't like McCain, I don't like Obama either.

As for Lou Dobbs, I like his mouth service but I listen to what comes out of the mouths of his guests.....both Republicans and Democrats.  I don't believe ANYTHING I hear from a 3rd party.  I like to get my info directly from the horse's mouth.

Well..........I'll give it a rest for a few days.  We're off to Branson, Mo. for a few days of R and R.  Cheers to y'all!

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