You are kidding, right? Sheesh. NM

• Check out this site - VH
  • The level of maturity in producing that clip - Reality check
    • Don't look, better yet, stay on your own board. - VH
      • You said to watch... - Reality check
        • They don't want debate or dissent, although.... - SM
          • Stay on your board please. - VH
            • You put up THIS site or the site you said to check out - Reality check
              • This site. - VH
                • Yes, anything to make an argument...sm - Democrat
                • Just clarifying that's all - Reality Check
            • They're not happy unless they are starting trouble. - Libby
              • and another thing - Reality check
                • Not yet but you're trying to change that. - Libby
                  • Puhleez - Reality check
                    • You have been requested REPEATEDLY by the administrator to stay off this board. - Can't you follow....
                      • The administrator came on ONCE not REPEATEDLY and she came on all boards. - Really?
                        • Here's a tally. sm - sm
                          • Did you count the unnamed trolls? - Reality check
                            • I lose count everytime I try to count the conservative posts on this page alone.nm - Democrat
                              • I believe the point was a poster was complaining about conservative posters here when there are - -
                            • Yep, that was under the 19. sm - sm
                              • No they think they're so enlightened - Reality check
                                • Add 3 more to the nameless troll category. So much for a truce. nm - sm
                                  • I'm not bashing and I never agreed to leave - Reality check
                                    • No Reality, I was talking about their posts on the C board. :) nm - sm
                        • Are more lies you want to tell? - Tired of this.
                          • The first one says, do not bash their posts. It does not say stay off the board. - Really
                            • You are a child who cannot understand.... - Getting more tired.
                              • See tally above. nm - sm
                                • Since you are obsessed with tallies>>>> - Still have integrity
                                  • This page alone looks like there are more conservative.sm - Democrat
                                    • Again, that wasn't the point. - -
                                      • It's my point.nm - Democrat
                                  • Wow, my post was totally and completely respectful and yours is totally and completely not. sm - sm
                                    • respectful? You? LOL! - gt
                                      • In case you didn't notice, gt, we called a truce, which you just blew. sm - sm
                                        • Truce? Not in my eyes - gt
                                          • Wow, that was long. I'm not reading it. You don't own the board. sm - sm
                                        • YOU BROKE THE TRUCE, YOU FRIGGING MORON! - Libby
                                          • Liberals exposed in all their glory. SM - MT
                                          • Nice mouth. You kiss your mother with that mouth? sm - sm
                                            • ???? - GT
                                              • I didn't say I wasn't going to read it, gt. sm - sm
                                      • You said it GT! - Libby
                                • Yes, you win the disrespect and crudity award - More tired
                                  • The simply fact is you were whining and crying about us being on your board sm - sm
                                    • Then why don't we make a pact from this moment forward? - TRUCE
                                      • Sure, but I can't speak for the others. nm - sm
                        • You lie and twist the truth. - Tired of the CONS lies!!
                          • There is plenty of conservative activity there. Stop whining. - Really
                            • Yeah, and we talk about multiple topics - Reality check
                              • You said it! nm - sm
                    • Yes I do have it made. - VH
                      • What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? - Reality check
                  • Libby, they are just licking their wounds. sm - VH
                    • No wounds here - Reality check
                  • Nope we aren't - vs
              • Libby dear you're on our board - Reality check
                • If you leave our board, I'll leave your board. - Libby
                  • Why? - Reality check
                    • The reason - Libby
                    • One more thing, neocon - GT
                      • You are losing it gt, starting to scream and rant. Best rest now. nm - sm
                    • SHUT UP - gt
                      • Real mature - Reality check
                      • I don't think threatened is the word. SM - MT
                        • Screaming was to give you the benefit of the doubt because you acted like you were deaf. - Libby
                        • WHAT IS UP ABOUT THAT - gt
                          • You are screaming again. nm - sm
                            • This is the liberal board. She can scream all she wants. If you don't like it, LEAVE. - Jackie
                              • Once upon a time. sm - sm
                                • What a whiny load. - Zauber
                                • Wrong. - Jackie
                                  • I don't have to prove anything. Those of us who were here know it to be true. nm - sm
                                    • Whatever. No one hounded them off. sm - Democrat
                                      • You are kidding, right? Sheesh. NM - MT
                                      • Selective memory must be nice. The point is sm - sm

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I can almost feel palpable hatred that Palin is so fond of inciting at her rallies.

I guess time is getting short, everyone keeps saying Obama will win, they're becoming very angry and the venom is spewing.  Too bad they just can't stick to the issues and must resort to attacking posters instead of issues.  I guess that just shows the extent of their desperation. 

Now, I don't know for sure if Obama will win.  I'm very hesitant about feeling too secure about that.  As long as there are the Karl Roves of the world and Diebold machines, anything can happen.

and the pubs KNEW EVERYTHING for these last eight years and did what was supposedly good for this country?.  One of many horrible things they did was push the average American worker out of the middle class while the fat cats got fatter, all the while thumbing their noses at us, not to mention the 'war' that never should have happened.   

You said:

"like a very bad itchy rash, or the smell of cow manure, he is EVERYWHERE, even to ignorant dems/independents who (OH MY GOD) get all the nes channels, C-SPAN, that the special Republicans can."

You're all hyped up today. Calm down.  I wasn't sure what you were saying and took it to mean C-Span was a garbage channel..

I wrote:  I said, "Well, let's see:  "Algia" means pain.  "Ceph" means pain, so pain in the head -- HEADACHE!"

Obviously, "ceph" means HEAD!

I just got out of the hospital (again for pancreatitis), and I believe MY "ceph" was left behind when I was typing my post.

Good thing I don't own a gun or I'd probably shoot myself in the foot.  LOL.

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You don't want to interrupt our so-called "Bush hate-fest with facts"????

Number one, you THRIVE on this.  You thrive on spouting your drivel, fighting and spreading your venom.  You need it like a fish needs water.  You can't survive unless you spread your evil hatefulnes all over this board.  You're not satisfied with a respectful, reasonable debate.  You're not happy unless you're personally stomping someone who disagrees with you into the ground.

Number two, the entire issue involved with this thread IS "FACTS."  An increasing number of Americans want to know what the truth is, and they're bright enough to realize they've been fed a bunch of lies by the idiot in the White House.  You people are so adverse to the truth, you wouldn't be able to identify a fact if it hit you between the eyes. 

I realize that you're energized and over the fact that you've got a fight going here.

You have no compelling point of view.  All you know how to do is insult and call people names.  You don't have the ability to intelligently debate any issue.  You're nothing more than message board thugs.  I personally am very uncomfortable stooping that low, and from now on, I refuse to read and/or respond to any of your posts, and I would urge the thoughtful, respectful, intelligent people who frequent this board to do the same and NOT give you the conflict that you thrive on. 

Take it back to the cesspool you call home:  The Conservative Board.  Isn't that what you've repeatedly promised to do, anyway, LEAVE??  Once again, your word has just as much value and credibility as Bush's.  It's easy to see why you worship him.  You share the same "values."

Those comments the other night weren't particularly disturbing.  They were a bit crass at times, and the John Willkes Booth comment was a bit coarse and probably a bit over the top.....but overall they were quite amusing.  I even saved one posting because it was HILARIOUS.  Okay, probably not hilarious to the conservative board, I do realize that.  But after watching these dreadful playground bullies beat up on everyone on that board that didn't spew their propaganda there was some sort of justice in those posts that appeared.  Sort of a karmic get-even thing.  I am so glad that I got to read all of them that particular evening.

Reading the other board is kind of like passing a gruesome car accident.  You don't want to look, but yet you can't resist.....and you never know how awful it's going to be.  Human nature, I guess.

Spreading false rumors - I thought junior high was over with!

Besides, it's far more probable that the Palin had the baby due to her age, rather than her young daughter.

Grow up, would ya?

From BF's own mouth when Greenspan and the republicans were trying to regulate FMFM, he said there was no problem. Know why? They would find out he and a bunch of others were skimming the profits.

This started before Bush. There were warnings but the dems did not heed them. Why? Because the republicans wanted this regulation and we all know NOW that the dems won't do anything for the better of the people if it means voting for something the repubs try to put in place, no matter how good the legislation is.

I think you better do some homework.

It would be nice to write off the current crisis on Wall Street and global financial markets as something that only matters to the investor class.

Unfortunately, the effects are already being felt in lower-income communities around the United States. Worst-case scenarios for what spins out from the U.S. mortgage meltdown are truly frightening -- a severe world recession is a distinct possibility.

Whether such worst-case scenarios can be averted, or softened -- and preventing the recurrence of similar crises in the future -- depends on abandoning the laissez-faire financial regulatory regime entrenched over the last decade.

The current crisis is the predictable (and predicted) result of a massive U.S. housing bubble, which itself can be traced in part to global economic imbalances that could have been prevented.

At least five distinct regulatory failures led to the current crisis.

Regulatory Failure Number One: Failure to Manage the U.S. Trade Deficit. The housing bubble (as well as the surge in leveraged buyouts of publicly traded companies ("private equity")) was fueled by cheap credit -- low interest rates. One reason for the cheap credit was an influx of capital into the United States from China. China's capital surplus was the mirror image of the U.S. trade deficit -- U.S. corporations were sending lots of dollars to China in exchange for the cheap stuff sold to U.S. consumers.

Regulatory Failure Number Two: Failure to Intervene to Pop the Housing Bubble. Along with an influx of capital, Federal Reserve policy kept interest rates very low. There were good reasons for the Fed Policy, but that did not mean the Fed was helpless to prevent the housing bubble. As economists Dean Baker and Mark Weisbrot of the Center for Economic and Policy Research insisted at the time, Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan simply by identifying the bubble -- and adjusting public perception of the future of the housing market -- could have prevented or at least contained the bubble. He declined, and even denied the existence of a bubble.

Regulatory Failure Number Three: Financial Deregulation and Unchecked Financial "Innovation." A key reason that mortgages were made available so widely and with such little review of recipients' qualifications was a shift in which institutions hold the mortgages. Traditionally, banks made mortgages and held them. In the new era, banks and non-bank mortgage lenders made loans, but then sold the loans to others. Investment banks packaged lots of mortgage loans into "Collateralized Debt Obligations" (CDOs) and then sold them on Wall Street, with a promise of a steady stream of revenue from interest payments. These operations were pretty much unregulated. Despite the supposed sophistication of the investors involved, no one took account of how shoddy the loans were or -- more fundamentally -- the certainty that huge numbers would go bad if and when the housing bubble popped.

Regulatory Failure Number Four: Private Regulatory Failure. It was the job of ratings agencies (like Standard and Poor's, and Moody's) to assess the CDOs and give investors guidance on how risky they were. They failed totally, likely in part because they wanted to maintain good relations with the investment banks issuing the CDOs.

Regulatory Failure Number Five: No Controls Over Predatory Lenders. The toxic stew of financial deregulation and the housing bubble created the circumstances in which aggressive lenders were nearly certain to abuse vulnerable borrowers. The terms of your loan don't matter, they effectively purred to borrowers, so long as the value of your house is going up. Lenders duped borrowers into conditions they could not possibly satisfy, making the current rash of foreclosures on subprime loans inevitable. Effective regulation of lending practices could have prevented the abusive loans, but none was to be found.

Unfortunately, the consequences of the mortgage meltdown go far beyond the foreclosure epidemic, as horrible a toll as that is taking. The entanglement of the financial sector with mortgage instruments, and the ripple effects of the housing bubble, has made lenders uncertain of who even among large corporations and financial institutions is credit worthy. The resulting credit crunch endangers the functioning of the global economy. Financial markets are guessing wildly about the prospects of banks, insurers and other financial corporations, and the plunging value of stocks poses immediate dangers to the real global economy.

Less acute, but probably more profoundly, the popping of the housing bubble is driving down home prices. U.S. consumer demand over the last five years has been driven by consumers borrowing against the increased value of their homes; with housing values falling, that process is working in reverse. The depressed housing market is also ravaging the construction sector, a nontrivial portion of the U.S. economy. A serious recession looms as a real possibility.

Mitigating these harms and preventing the worst now depends on active and interventionist government -- a government stimulus plan, and aggressive efforts to force lenders to adjust mortgage terms and let people stay in their homes. Preventing financial panics of the kind now underway require new standards of transparency and regulation for high finance. The coming days and months will tell whether any lessons have been learned.