You don't know much about the Islamic crusades
Posted By: do ya? sm on 2009-05-07
In Reply to: You don't remember those pesky crusades, do you? NM - AnnuderMT
For your enlightenment, and if taught in schools, you would know that Muslims lauched their OWN crusades OUTSIDE of Arabia two years after Muhammed's death.... this was their "holy war" or "jihad"
Muslims and you no doubt have forgotten that Muslims launched crusades several CENTURIES before the Europeans launched theirs as a defense AGAINST Islamic expansion....
Funny how all those folks you get your info from conveniently forgot to inform you of the truth for the crusades from the Europeans!!
They were protecting themselves, much like the United States should be doing!
Islamic teaching is that of hate of ALL who are not them.... plain and simple.
Get your crusades straight before you show your ignorance!
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Interesting how the Crusades can be used, almost like statistics, to defend or decry anything we wish. When I was growing up, going to Catholic school, when someone wanted to demean Catholicism as some sort of cult, they would rely on the same 4 things; Mary, confession, the pope and the Crusades. (The Crusades were a bad thing). It was always the one they saved for last...**Well, what about the crusades, explain that one.** Although we studied apologetics in school so that we could defend our religious beliefs with scripture and historical facts, as well as the writings of the early church fathers, no one gave a fig about anything we had to say. Their minds were made up before we opened our mouths. Catholics were not Christians and the Crusades were bad and we were all going to hell in a handbasket if we did not change our evil ways.Now, evidently the Crusades are seen as a good thing. Too bad the nuns and brothers who taught me are not alive...they would be happy to hear this.
As far as the terrorists coming to our front doors, I really don't believe that. I think, in Iraq at least, that they hate each other more than they hate us. I can't really see them packing up and bringing their civil war to Indiana or New Jersey. I think that they want revenge amongst themselves first and foremost, Sunnis want control back and since they are small in number, they see that as a need, not a want. Shiites want a theological government run by them and payback for the way Sunnis have treated them for 30 years. Kurds want revenge for everything that has happened to them for 100s of years. I think they want that more than they want democracy, or at least first. I remember saying 3 years ago that terrorism was a state of mind and not a place so even if we razed Iraq and started over, terrorism would go on and it has, blossoming nicely. I do not see how we can win a war against terrorism. There are no boundaries to it, no lack of soldiers willing to die for it, too many sects of it. If we do what the hawks want, I believe we will be entering into the second 100 years' war and still it will not be **won** whatever that means. We just can't kill or incarcerate everyone we **suspect** of terrorist activities, or connections to terrorists or whatever. Besides, you pull one out and 2 more appear. I think we can put **peace in the Middle East** be it Israel, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, the Arab emirates et al in the NEVER column. It is just not going to happen, ever.
The Crusades isn't being used for anything. sm
It's historical significance in saving Europe from worldwide dominance to Islam is an historical fact. Just because you have your head in the sand regarding radical terrorists doesn't mean I have to ignore them.
You don't remember those pesky crusades, do you? NM
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I wouldn't compare invading Iraq to the Crusades...nm
*Islamic Threat*
The *Islamic threat* grew over the past 50 years of our foreign policy. This did not happen just because as Bush says, they are jealous of our freedom. OMG, their ideology and ours are totally different and frankly, I dont think we will ever get a functioning democracy set up in the Middle East. Instead of doing what Blair is doing now, setting up meetings with Islamic organizations to try to defuse the situation, we went head strong into Iraq..Oh, we are America, we are gonna kick butt, and what happened, we are now fighting a world wide terrorist war with it's breeding ground Iraq and to a minimum Afghanistan. This was such an error in judgment and we will pay for it for decades to come. Bush and his administration dont have to worry. If we get attacked, they have bunkers, they have secret service that will be with them even after the term ends. It is us, who ride the subways, rail roads, buses, shop at the malls..we are the ones..the poor slobs on the farms, who are fighting Bush's war and will die in terrorist attacks. Thank you, Bush!
Perhaps. But to ignore the Islamic threat would mean sm
the end of life as we know it and we don't even want to imagine what the "new" life would be like. Be careful what you wish for.
4 years Islamic teachings
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Islamic influence in prisons is not a new
This has been going on for quite some time. Unfortunately, what is taught in prison isn't "mainstream" Islam, but a corruption of it that really amounts to nothing more than criminal enterprise cloaked in the guise of religious activity. As such, the hands of prison officials are basically tied when it comes to trying to stop it because they would be interfering with a prisoner's "religious freedoms".
Islamic Extremitists Sentencing.
Although this isn't Iran or any other country, see this article.I seriously didn't think that was part of their justice system anymore. You rarely hear about it anymore.
"MOGADISHU, Somalia — A court run by an extremist Islamic group sentenced four Somali men on Monday to each have a hand and a leg cut off for allegedly stealing mobile phones and guns. The ruling prompted an outcry from human rights activists.
The court that handed down the sentence in Somalia's capital is run by al-Shabab, one of the nation's most powerful insurgent groups. The U.S. considers al-Shabab a terrorist group with links to AL Qaeda, which al-Shabab denies. The group, which controls much of Somalia, is trying to drive out the government and install a strict form of Islam.
"We have convicted them of theft, so they deserve to have their arms and legs amputated," said Sheik Abdul Haq, the al-Shabab judge in the capital, Mogadishu.
Al-Shabab has carried out amputations and other punishments elsewhere in Somalia, but they are rare in the capital."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528139,00.html
and he was raised by his radical islamic stepfather
Be very aware..........
and if his wife is a member of the CFR - trust me, he's involved too.....
New World Order - New American Century - Skull and Bones - read up on it.........
He was signed up for Islamic teachings 4 hours
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He learned Islamic teachings "inside" the school..
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