You said you can't legislate morality....
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: did I say murder? - satellitesally
those were your words, not mine. Yes, it is the fault of the left, no right or wrong, only shades of gray, in the name of free expression we have near porn in prime time, do whatever you want and no one will hold you responsible...those are not conservative morals. Those are liberal morals. If the shoe fits, you gotta wear it. THis permissive society you so wanted is here. Trouble is, we are all sowing what the left reaped.
Yes, equate a baby being sliced and diced in the womb with nowhere to run (how much more innocent can you get) to causalties in war? Where is your sympathy for all the millions Saddam killed? What an oxyMORON. Partial birth abortion? Babies born alive and left to die? YOU might as well advocate torture!
What elitist crap! Go Nascar? You better be really happy those folks are out there, because if we are attacked on our own shore it will be the Nascar folks who save your elitist hind-end. It sure won't be your crowd.
What look down your nose condescending post. You must be so proud.
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While I agree that, unfortunately, abortion is often used a birth control, I still don't feel that I want that choice to be taken away. I do have two children, one teenager, one close to becoming a teenager. So far, they are VERY open with us (sometimes I wish they weren't so open ;-), and we are fortunate. There are many children who have parents who aren't involved at all or who they are scared to death of. I will always vote against parental notification laws with regards to abortion. I know opinions are mixed regarding this, and I hope my children would always come to me, but I still don't feel this should be a legal requirement.
Your point about homosexuality bugs me a bit. Believe it or, people have always been gay throughout time. I am fortunate to have many homosexuals as wonderful friends, both men and women. To know these people, I cannot accept that they would choose to be this way. I feel this is the way they were born, not a choice they made. And, since I believe God made everyone, perfect in their own way, I accept them as children of God and believe that God accepts them as well.
As to whether homosexuality is unchristian, I have never seen a reference to it in Jesus' teachings. There are mentions of homosexuality in the bible, but not spoken of by Jesus. There are far more references to tithing and money, but I don't see the world up in arms because people are not tithing.
Morality.
My problem with homosexuality is more than moral, as I outlined in my post. It is the pushing of their beliefs on a society, many of whom do not agree with their belief system. Much as abortion has been hailed as a right, we are now faced with a society that expects special rights for homosexuals, whether we want this or not. It's funny that while Christians are once again persecuted on a daily basis, the above rights are pushed to the forefront. The thought of a teenager having an abortion without parental involvement is horrific to me. This demonstrates the chiasm that exists in moral degradation in this country. I cannot imagine a child of mine making this decision without me. The fact is, no child of mine would even consider it. We value life and God's blessings above all things. As far as interpretation of the Bible, we all know that this interpretation is relative. I will fall back on the addage of love the sinner, hate the sin. I have homosexual friends, too.
Is also shows how much you know about ethics and morality....
You appear to be a fool. An unethical fool.
So tell us: Where is the morality in bombing family
The TRULY morally bankrupt do more evil in this world than everyone or everything else combined, and then then hide behind their 'religious beliefs'. Or their pointed white hoods. Same difference.
Legality does not equal morality.
Many things in this country are legal that God would disapprove of. You cannot serve God and man. I wouldn't go so far as to call this murderer a doctor. Doctor's try to save lives. He was far from a doctor.
So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith
our conscience guide us politically?
I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make. My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am. I vote my conscience. I want political leaders who reflect my morality. I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me. There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial. There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial? The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!
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