You said you enjoyed proving people wrong...
Posted By: Observer on 2007-02-01
In Reply to: Please google it.... - Teddy
then provide your source. And provide some more current statistics. That is all I asked for. A simple request. If you can't, you can't. No biggie.
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You are what is wrong with me. You and people like you. SM
Your antiwar views and support of people like Cindy Sheehan put our troops at RISK. You cannot or will not see that because you are having just too darn much fun. You attacked the sm poster for something you perceived she was saying, that being a negative post about American Indians, but you were WRONG and you have been wrong before, accusing people of saying things I clearly remember another poster saying and you NEVER SAY YOU ARE SORRY. What is wrong with YOU??? I'm sorry, there isn't any nice way to tell you what I think of you. Read the letter by the Marine on the conservative board. He lays it all out for you and there can be no pretense that you care about the troops when you read that letter.
What's wrong with you people? I am not sam.....sm
And quite frankly, the trend I see, is that you guys think you always have to have the last word, which makes you think you're right all the time. I just mostly ignore it all, though, because if it makes you feel better about yourself, I'll let you.
I just wish some of you guys weren't always so meanspirited to the right.
But again, I'm not sam. "ms" are my initials.
Wrong! Their may have been some people that...sm
would say McCain was pandering to the black voter if Powell had been his choice, but I think that most intelligent Americans have great respect for him, democrat and republican, and such insinuations would have been a non issue. I would have said wow, is CP qualified to be president, yes, much different than my opinion of Sarah Palin.
What is wrong with you people?.....(sm)
We should take them out once and for all? With what? Nukes? That would kill how many innocent civilians? Now there's a plan...NOT. I know, let's invade them. Uh-oh....that's right, our military is spread so thin right now that it's next to useless....wonder why that happened...hmmm. I know, how about we reinstate the draft. How many of your kids are you willing to send?
You said, "While O is trying to reduce our defense abilities, these leaders are building up theirs." Wrong again. What you should have said was, while Bush was wasting all our military resources on BS to advance his political agenda, these leaders were building up their defense capabilities. And why would they do that? My guess would be to protect themselves from rogue nations --- like ours was under Bush.
Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that "a big stick" isn't the answer to everything? In case you haven't noticed, this kind of thinking is one of the main reasons your party is now on the brink of extinction.
Please. They are both eligible. What is wrong with you people? sm
McCain's parents were both American citizens and his father was serving the US in the canal zone when he was born and Obamas's mother was born in Kansas for God's sake. What is wrong with you people that no one wants to talk about the issues? Doesn't say much about the intelligence of voters when they cannot grasp a simple concept like citizenship.
Then you are hanging around the wrong people (sm)
I don't associate myself with prejudiced people if I can help it. The fact is I am a registered democrat and am not voting for Obama based on his associations (Rev. Right, Ayers, etc)and his stance on partial-birth abortion. I don't care one iota about his race. However, I do think it would be great for America to have a black president, just not Obama. A good upstanding, honest and truly patriotic black man would be great. I would love to not vote for McCain, but I cannot in good conscience vote for Obama.
Blaming wrong people......
Blame the freakin' banks and CEOs - Wall St., speculators driving up housing costs (just like they are driving up gas costs, again). Barney Frank didn't bag all these mortgages into derivatives and then bet on the derivatives......Sheesh. When I refinanced my other home (yes, we have 2), I was told my loan would probably be sold. It never was. Probably because the payments were always made on time. (this was 5-6 years ago). My husband was laid off the first of the year (I don't work due to medical problems). My kids are paying the mortgage on the 2nd house. (I had a house when I married, then we bought a house together right before we were married). We don't have a pot to pss in, but, we have 2 houses to worry about. Can't sell 'em and our mortgage on the house WE live in is cheaper than rent.
What is wrong with you people. Post, ignore,
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Sorry you are wrong. ACORN hired people off...sm
the street for an hourly wage. They had a quota of how many people they were supposed to register, many were lazy and forged the applications, and then ACORN did not verify that the registrations were legit before they sent them in. There was NO oversight in some states, thus the problem.
"why people think Muslim is wrong"
I didn't say "I think Muslim is wrong."
Wrong. People are afraid to question O about
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You guys are focusing on the wrong people
there are always a few stragglers in the crowd, in every race and every political party (like that guy who stood up and said kill him)in the McCain campaign, every religion and every walk of life, just people who say whatever they are feeling at any given time acting like they were raised by wolves out back in the woods. You can't let them upset you. You will be upset every day.
I voted for Pres. Obama and I didn't agree with the booing either. I didn't hear it first of all, but I believe you it happened and I would have wanted to hide under the table myself. That was rude, especially at an event of such caliber. so I would have to agree with you on that one.
Maybe they will learn to do better along their path in life. I don't think they can hardley be counted as how the majority of his supporters would behave.
Wrong! I happen to love my country and its people.
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I enjoyed that
I enjoyed reading your post. I don't agree about the whole Obama thing....I think he is a huge mistake but that is just my opinion. However, like you, I am thoroughly impressed by Palin and what she has accomplished. I too like that she is not from "washington." I personally believe that she will be the refreshing change that we need! And like you said, Clinton had no experience and was just the governor or Arkansas and was deemed good enough to be pres and yet Palin isn't? I think she would be WAY better than Clinton ever was if she had to step up and be pres. Palin was an excellent choice whether McCain made that decision himself or not!!!
Totally wrong because the most educated people vote for Obama sm
That is a fact. The dumb, uneducated vote repub, the greedy rich vote repub and the religious right vote repub. The college educated people vote Obama. Why do you think McBush and Failin are out there calling Joe SixPack etc... that's their only hope. They know the filthy rich without conscience will vote for them. They know the religiouis nuts but some of the eehaas and dummies have been going to Obama and McBush and Failin are freaking out a little.
Enjoyed your post, GT.
Not sure why the other poster is so offended. And it was more of a synopsis of Jewish beliefs than a lecture on Christianity.
I also wanted to say that here in middle America I have friends who are Jewish and their beliefs are pretty much right where you're at also. And it's not just them but their friends and relatives also. I guess if the other poster only chooses to look at radical teachings - whether radical right-wing, evangelical Christian, radical Jew or even terrorist Muslims as speaking for all, then we can only hope they can educate themselves over time to what the rest of the world has to offer.
I really enjoyed the discussion, as well.
It was nice to have a peaceful discussion with differing viewpoints. Peace to you, too.
Enjoyed your post!
Thank you and your post talks about a lot of things I had already believed were true.
I know that in Minnesota the state offers a subsized health care plan with a sliding scale payment plan based on income. It has problems though with coverage amount and asset limitations, but it seemed like a start in the right direction. My thought is that ALL people should be able to purchase health care - I am more than happy to pay for it - my main problem is that a lot of jobs don't offer it so then you are completely out of luck unless you purchase it yourself which is ridiculously expensive. A government-subsidized program which CHARGES for insurance but offers it to all is what I'd like to see. And as a person who has relatives who work for a large insurance company (and these folks make an appalling amount of money) - I can't believe those money-making insurance companies have the best interests of American's health as their primary concern!!
I've really enjoyed communicating with
you this week. Even though we don't agree, I respect your views and I particularly enjoy reading your posts because you don't get personal and attack others, and it seems that you treat people as you would like to be treated. All that does is increase my desire to read every single post you write because you write intelligently, and I feel I can learn a lot from you.
Please keep posting. 
Ladies, I have SO enjoyed your posts...
like both of you, I have Native American ancestry (Cherokee and Choctaw), Swedish and Irish. But I am an American. Our ancestors who founded this country did not come here and call it England across the water. They wanted to come to a free land with freedom and tolerance for all peoples and religions. It was a wonderful, bold, beautiful dream, and for a long time, it worked. Then enter human nature, petty jealousy and the lot...typical. To use the old addage, has never been a perfect human but one and what happened to him? Hung on a cross.
But I digress. It distresses me to read the "we are citizens of the world" stuff. Excuse me. I am not a citizen of the world. I am a citizen of the United States of America, I am proud of her heritage and her beginnings, always have and always will be. As I said in a previous post...I have never, ever been ashamed of her, but I have been very ashamed of some of her citizens.
It is blatantly obvious to me why so many europeans speak many languages...good grief, most of them are bordered by 2-3 different countries with different languages like our states border one another. So in order to travel, do business and interact, they have to learn different languages. Luckily we don't have Texan, Oklahoman, Wyomingian, etc...we have English. Most of Canada speaks English. We have one country that borders us who have a different language.
And what is wrong with having a national language? France has one...it's French. Germany has one...it's German. Spain has one...its Spanish. Mexico has one...its Spanish. Do you think if suddenly half of Germany illegally "immigrated" to France, France would be interested in putting a press 1 for German on all their phones and putting everything in both languages? Uh...no. I don't see that happening. lol.
Yes, I am a proud flag waver. She flies on a 20-ft pole outside my house every day and she will continue to. I am an American. And I agree...people who immigrate here should do so to become citizens of this country. We are a country of "mutts" as you say...and I use that term very affectionately. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. And in the not so distant past, it was being Americans that drew all us "Mutts" together and kept us strong and united as a country. How it pains me to see that start to go away.
I enjoyed a little laugh at my own joke. nm
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Ditto, I always enjoyed your posts as well.
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Hope you enjoyed your freedom/choices! sm
Sometimes what we thought was so bad starts to look better when we get something worse, especially when we did not see it coming. Socialism is not going to be as great as you might think.
I especially enjoyed the real refreshing lie I caught him in the other day...did you catch it?
...no, guess not...no one in the media called him on it either.
Here, let me give you a hint. Obama said that all of the conservative and liberal economists agreed that his economy recovery plan was good (or would work, or something like that).
The lie being that "all the conservative economists" part.
That was one, big, fat, honking lie.....no one even blinked and took his word for it.
My DH says there's at least a half dozen conservative economists out there that don't agree with Obama...and yet....if Obama says they do....everyone believes him.
He lies and you don't even know it, he's so smooth about it.....
But some of us know he does...lie that is......he's getting real good at talking both sides of the issues, so that if something does or doesn't come to pass, he can say I told you so....or whatever needs to be said to save his you know whatsis.
I think he's learned a lot from the Clintons lately, don't you?
Thanks for proving me right. Again. nm
Thank you for proving my point.
I hold up THREE fingers. The rest of the world sees THREE, but you? You only see ONE, and you take the one YOU see, completely ignoring the other two that EVERYONE ELSE SEES, and twist it and manipulate it and turn it into something ugly that doesn't even come close to the TRUTH that EVERYONE ELSE CAN SEE.
Thank you for proving my point.
My grandma used to say, well you are mad, you are going to stay mad, you are enjoying being mad, have decided to be mad and there is no reason to talk you out of it. But then, I already knew that, too.
Thank you for once again proving the truth of what I said about you.
Having said that, I didn't realize that you owned this board. And having said THAT, I leave you with this thought. A litany of complaints is not a solution. Your remarks are divisive and wrong. Your world view outlook is narrow and frighteningly sad and dark. THOSE are observations, not accusations.
You just keep proving my point.
I suppose I should thank you, but frankly I don't feel like it. I have no plans to visit the conservative board. I may go to the libertarian board though. I am anything but a sweetie. And I would certainly never allow you to call me that face to face. But then, that's how you operate, isn't it. One of those people who gets on a chat board and vents their spleen, too cowardly in real life to say these things face to face to anyone.
Thank you for once again proving my point.
You really just can't help it, can you?
Once again....and thanks for proving my point
You are an obvious BO supporter and you see the negative things you want to see out of McCain. McCain supporters, however, don't see that. We see negative things in Obama that his supporters refuse to see and believe. The people who like Palin think she will do just fine during the VP debate. It is all a matter of opinion. We all have the same information and yet we have picked two very different people to vote for. I think McCain will do fine in the next debates. I personally think that this election will be a close one all the way to the end. JMO though.
Have a good one! 
Thank you for proving the point
of how this country is pushing God away. I will pray for you!
Thanks for proving my point.
Wallowing in self pity is a real downer. However, if you keep it up long enough, you are bound to insure O's re-election in 2012, so keep up the good work. Trash talk is what lost this last election and history does have a way of repeating itself.
Thanks for proving my point.
These kinds of negative namecalling posts are exactly the point I was trying to make. Give the man an opportunity to prove or disprove his competency, and then, and only then, you earn the right to question and criticize.
Thanks for proving my point . . .
First of all, I didn't call YOU un-American, unless the shoe fits, and certainly it had nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with me. I could care less. It had to do with those people that won't even consider hearing an intelligent explanation about the plan for this country, and those that openly voice their wish for failure of this adminstration. Now, THAT is un-American.
This is proving to be a very leaky
administration. I predict that for the next 3-3/4 years, whenever a bit of misdirection is needed a memo or report will be leaked or given to the press. Or some prior administration misdeed discovered and fresh outrage manufactured.
We had the DHS document casting suspision on 'radical conservatives.' Now we have the torture memo going back to heap more blame on the Bush administration for policies which Pelosi apparently signed off on. I doubt, though, that the rest of the congressional briefing minutes will ever be 'leaked' which show that she and other democrats were quite aware of the interrogation techniques being employed.
Meanwhile, activities we should legitimately be angry over are going on, which we are not supposed to notice. Hey! No! Look over here! Crazy conservatives! Torture!
Let me just go on the record as saying that no amount of money would induce me to volunteer to be tortured (you know, beaten cut, burned - severe pain or harm). But cut me a check (certified only, please) with a number followed by a whole lot of zeros and I would be waterboarded (strictly in the interest of science). Our special forces are trained to withstand this and other 'harsh' interrigation techniques. I believe Demi Moore actually was waterboarded for the movie GI Jane. It's scary and unpleasant but way different from having your fingernails pulled out or a field generator and alligator clips used. Or listening to an Obama lecture. Now THAT's torture!
Thanks for proving my point....(sm)
Tell me, I'm assuming that you also think that having sex out of wedlock is also a "bad behavior." So, do you teach your kids to yell names at people like that? How about people who smoke cigarettes? What label to do you put on them?
Thank you for proving my point...
My work here is done.
Thank you all for so eloquently proving my point
in showing that you all have no idea what Christianity is all about. In one breath you are praising Christ and all his attributes, but in the next breath you reject Him. You embrace all the good, loving, warm fuzzy attributes of Christ, but you neglect to see what his sole purpose in coming to Earth was and that was die to atone for our sins and the evil wrought in this world. Christ cannot look upon sin, and we are all sinners every one of us, and that's why he had to die. He took the spiritual death we should have had to face ourselves. That's not warm and fuzzy, but it's certainly love above all comprehension. All He asks is that we accept His atonement and turn from our wicked ways. It doesn't make us perfect sinless people, but it changes our heart and how we look at the world.
Personally, I don't agree with everything Pat Robertson says because Pat Robertson is not God. He's a man, but there is a certainly a judgemental side of God. I hope many of you can see that before you face him as your judge once you leave this Earth. Then it will be too late to change your mind. I hope you won't let people like Pat Robertson or even someone like me keep you from truly knowing the love of Jesus Christ.
Now that I've totally violated board rules by evangelizing on the politics board I will leave.
Not nearly as *good* as you proving what a fool you are
by attributing something to me that I never said.
I made a mistake. You thrive on attention. I said I was going to ignore you. From now on, I will give you the attention you truly deserve: NONE.
Find someone else to judge, despise and attack and/or get some professional help. I won't feed your anger and hatred any more.
You need a Happy Meal.
Have a lovely evening, dear. Buh-bye.
LOL, thanks for proving my point, as posted below. sm
You don't offend me. You disturb me. Two different entities.
Actually you are proving that YOU have the closed mind here - sm
You know absolutely nothing about me. I hate Survivor and so-called reality TV - nothing more than the dumbing down of America, as far as I'm concerned.
Actually I don't know much about Mr Icke; granted he may be a deep thinker, in some ways. However, I think he is slightly off-kilter for that single book / theory about the reptilians. Can we judge his credibility regarding other ideas because of that book? Yes? Unless he's just spouting theories to make some $$ off the gullible public?? Possible, no?
I'm actually quite a fan of conspiracy theorists and those who think outside the box (esp coverups, religion, war, etc, in these horrific days of Bush-Cheney domination).
See? You're proving the very point made about
right wing rage. Sure hope you and your fanatic friends don't all own guns......
And the word is hypocrisy, thanks for proving my point!
Making a generalized statement about the tremendous crowds that Obama draws being moochers is really about the most pathetic, ridiculous thing I have ever heard. You make me laugh!!
Obama is already proving to be a liar and stealer
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Thanks so much for proving my point about the angry, hate-filled left. sm
You did a perfect job of it. You are incapable of thought other than that driven by hate. Your debates are screeds and your voice is strident and laced with the same adjectives...the word liar comes to mind. Which, of course, you are.
wrong, full of wrong statements, see my upper post...nm
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Glad you enjoyed them and glad to see you back!
Wrong Woman - Wrong Message
http://www.truthout.org/article/palin-wrong-woman-wrong-message
Wrong, wrong, wrong, clueless Lu.
Horse hockey
Sorry about that...wrong board, wrong name
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