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Yup, don't forget to include the opinions of the criminally insane as undeniable truth....nm

Posted By: Thanks for your research on 2005-07-21
In Reply to: And Google also has 896,000 entries on conservatives and - communism.

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    Right, dont every forget to bash Bush.
    nm
    Yeah, BB, why dont you just ignore the truth and
    nm
    Obama is criminally naive.

    "Upholding our values will protect us from terrorism." 


    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.bd0713f4765981d1edbe5b522ce08354.3e1&show_article=1


    Hello?  Wake up, you dipwad.  It is precisely our values that terrorists hate.


    Umm...and even if they didn't, please explain just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama?  Or, putting it more precisely (since we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office), just which of the numerous American values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event?  Was it the mess on the dress perhaps?  Or do ya think it might have been failing to get after bin Laden when he had the chance?  Huh?


    Your reasoning abilities are so pathetic that they amount to a crime against your office, in fact.  You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.


    Impeach Obama now.  He is utterly unfit to serve.


    Obama is criminally naive. "Upholding our values

    Umm...and just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama?  Or, putting it more precisely, we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office.  So which of the numerous values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event?


    Pathetic reasoning - a crime against your office, in fact.  You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.


    Impeach Obama now.  Unfit to serve.


    Obama is criminally naive. "Upholding our values

    Umm...and just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama?  Or, putting it more precisely, we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office.  So which of the numerous values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event?


    Pathetic reasoning - a crime against your office, in fact.  You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.


    Impeach Obama now.  He is utterly unfit to serve.


    Dear Miss Thang. If you dont like it, dont watch.
    nm
    rational to one is irrational to another..dont like it, dont read it
    Rational posts?  Well, maybe you would think that, however, I disagree..but, what the heck, from your continual posts attacking me over the past few months, it is obvious that we dont agree on anything.  Gotta tell ya, no one chases a person from a chat board..that is a lame excuse for someone who obviously was not able to hold his/her own with the smart liberals who post on this  liberal board.  So gt chased her/him away.  On please!  If a poster is getting to you, you just ignore their posts..dont click on them..Viola!  It is that easy!  Or dont come on the liberal board if you do not like liberal ideology!  Viola!  It is that easy!  So, Im here all the time am I?  Well, punkin, I see your handle always on both this board and the dinosaur board..er..I mean conservative board.  Is this what your debating has gotten down to?  Lets count and see who is here more often?  How ridiculous, how childish, how so....republican.  **BIG HUG**
    I dont hate Obama. I just dont see him as qualified
    nm
    You are insane. SM

    "Sometimes I think there isn't much difference between these people and the terrorists who attacked us and other countries.  They both exhibit signs of mental illness, a maniacal obsession with controlling what everyone believes, and they both promote hatred, violence and intolerance in the name of their respective gods.  About the only main difference I can see is that the terrorists, unfortunately, seem to be much more intelligent in their pursuit of their goals."


    This is a glimpse into a very sick and demented mind.  There are two boards on here.  AG and Nan have chosen to stay off this one.  THEY took the higher road.  YOU, however, sit over here like Little Miss Muffett and pass judgement on people you are attacking. Amazing!  I never said I wouldn't come here and unless I attack you personally, which I have not (merely pointing out your delusions of grandeur and gross mental imposition) you are stuck with me because I can't believe that even some of the liberals HERE would put up with what you are saying.


    Wow....that is just insane.

    Why do people have to think like this?  Some black people would even turn on another black person if they thought one was catering to white people?  We are all human beings.  This is just really sad.


    All I know is that I was shocked nothing was said about Obama when he said his grandma was a typical white person.  Now...if McCain had called a black person a typical black person....his career would be done and over.  Why the double standards?


    That does not include
    car companies bailout which obviously they cannot bail them out now after reading this.  It DOES include though CEO and board of directors bonuses.  I believe not only a Great Depression coming, but even worse than that. 
    It is insane.
    But I think it is pretty common in border states. It is amazing, isn't it. I have not seen them go away the way you have, but it sure would be nice for LA to have emergency rooms again!
    I think it is insane how

    insurance companies handle things.  For example, my sister-in-law is pregnant and was due more than 2-3 weeks ago.  She had to ask permission from her insurance to be induced and they denied her.  This woman is in her 40s and should not be allowed to go 2-3 weeks over her due date and yet insurance didn't want to pay for an induction. 


    We pay the premiums.  If we pay our premiums, there is no reason why insurance companies shouldn't pay up when we need them to.  That is the problem.


    To do away with insurance companies....I don't know.  I think you have a misconception about universal healthcare and you might want to look further into this.  If the government takes over health care costs, you think things are bad now.  You will have to wait longer for things.  We will lose some of our best doctors.  The government will not pay for elective things like knee replacements, etc.  If you have cancer and the government decides your treatment is too experimental or you don't warrant  treatment, they have pretty much already signed your death certificate.  Government controlled healthcare will be worse than the current insurance problems we have now.


    Do things need to change in this area......yes.  However, let's make sure that we change it for the better.  Government controlled health care is not better.


    This is just insane!
    What next?  I mean...I don't see them going after people who are having superbowl parties or poker night, tupperware parties, Mary Kay parties, etc.  Why this Bible study?  If this had been a Muslim meeting, lesbian meeting, etc. and they were told they needed a permit to gather at someone's private house......OMG....the news media would be all over this and the ACLU would be involved, etc.  However, since this is a pastor having Bible study in his home, he is being attacked and told to get a permit?  This is just nuts. 
    You dont get it. Most dont want O to fail, they feel
    nm
    it was an insane choice
    I certainly do not want to wake up every morning in a country where such mind-boggling choices are foisted on us by the president out of the blue. 
    Are you totally insane?
    How dumb can you be? Have you no sense at all?

    Obama is a spoiled, conceited, "higher-than-thou," pompous patooti. He is so clueless to the problems of the real world that he can't see past the nose on his face. I feel sorry for you and others who think like you. I only hope America does not wind up having to pay for the Obama playground in our taxes and standing in the world.
    Insane idea

    Don't you think we'll have to pay the stimulus payments back?  Borrowed from.......China?


    Will this include the dems who
    were all for this stuff or at least knew about it and said nothing or will this strictly be a continued witch hunt on Bush and Cheney?  If you want revenge on the pubs, I personally feel that the dems who knew and/or were for it should be held accountable as well.  If Bush and Cheney go down, they all should.
    I appreciate the opinions, however;
    as your fellow Ohioans voted him into the Ohio senate in 1996 has served six terms as congressman, it stands to reason your view is the minority.   Viggo Mortensen was in NH speaking on Kucinich's behalf during the caucus, and it is my understanding the Melissa Etheridge is also a supporter.  I just think your argument is a bit weak.  If you want to discount him, attack him for his views or failed policies.  I don't care if he is supported by people such as Willie Nelson.  I happen to enjoy his music and his private life is exactly that, private; and I don't believe in guilty by association.
    Hey GP - I always say we may all have different opinions
    But we should all feel strongly about our opinions that we put our name. It's good to see you too GP. Like I say we may not always agree, but I read the posts. My husband always tells me "Knowlege is Freedom". I agree with you though, it is hard to tell the posters. I've been swamped with work lately and trying to play with my cat more. Poor thing gets so lonely. And I go through stages with being tired of being bashed, then figure I have a right to post my opinion. So now I feel the board is getting too filled with the lovefest crowd for the O, so I gotta bring the board back to being real here again. HA HA -I'm sure you'll disagree with me on that one though :-), but differences are what makes this country so great. So now I'm back to posting my opinion whether someone likes it or not. Someone's gotta stir the pot. HA HA. If I feel strongly about a topic or an article I find interesting I will post.
    Well, you know what they say about opinions........nm
    x
    Opinions
    are like (you know what word), everyone has one. You just have to know where to look to defend yours. We could post others' opinions like this all day - it's not going to change my mind and I can see it's not going to change yours.

    You're entited to your opinion and I respect that.
    did they include PUMA in that poll among...
    Democratic women? And there are a lot of men in PUMA too. I have seen as many male members as female ones being interviewed...and they are still not happy. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out. All of those 18 million disgruntled Hillary voters are NOT women.
    Why is it that McCain supporters include
    Do you know how much credibility you lose each time you pass such trash along? I will not use my time citing passage after passage from the Quran to expose your ignorance. If you care anything at all about being taken seriously, you will take a little time to actually read the Quran, which is a Holy Book, before you trash it. When you do thi, you make Christians look really ugly.
    Any poll can and will include "illegals"
    @
    do those boring posters include you too?

    nm


    Team McCain should include any and all who
    proliferating these messages. From our own forum, we can see that there are plenty of nationalist nut jobs, rabid racists and pious patriots out there who are not able to make the connection between hate speech, violence and assassinations. This can only lead us into the necessity for swift, tight and hopefully harsh enforcement of hate crimes in the future. I hope they make tougher laws regarding hate speech along the way.
    I just find it totally insane that
    black people by the thousands worship the all mighty Obama because he is black....he is one of them.  They talk about white prejudice and the "white lies," etc.  Do they not realize that they are putting down part of Obama as well.  They are putting down his white heritage.  Granted, one look at the man and you wouldn't even think he had white heritage in him just going by the color of his skin, but still.  He doesn't speak ebonics.  He wasn't raised in the hood.  The man lived in Hawaii and Indonesia.  You would think they would truly want a black man who was born and raised in the hood, overcame all of that, turned his life around, got an education, and worked his way up.  Instead, they've got a half n half who was predominantly raised in Hawaii by white grandparents and went to an ivy league college.  LOL.  Does any one else see the irony in this?
    How do you know how I seek my opinions?
    Just because I don't listen to far left, excuse the phrase, wackos, that have been discredited right and left does not mean I don't seek out diverse opinions. I read and watch a lot of opposing views. I will say that I have core beliefs in which I have made my mind up about and my opinion does not sway with the direction of the wind on any given day. I don't see anything wrong with that, and that philosophy has served me well over nearly a half a century of life, so I will stick with the tried and proven.
    What are your opinions on Fla and Michigan

    I keep hearing about HC wanting to push on getting Florida and Michigan votes to count, delegates to be seated, etc.  While I understand about every vote should count and they should, I also understand that Fla & Mich agreed on this so that they could vote early (i.e. they broke the rules and were punished) and both sides (Obama & Clinton) agreed to it.  I guess at that time she thought that the whole US was just going to vote for her and nobody would vote for Obama and now that she is seeing otherwise she wants to change the rules/laws.


    Now I don't even understand why there is a meeting going on.  Doesn't anyone just tell them...No!  You agreed to this.  You were told of the consequences and you agreed and now that your losing you want to change the laws to be put in your favor.  Every time they don't win they want to change the rules, and I dont understand why they are not just being told "No".  If they are so concerned about all the votes counting why didn't they just wait until when they were supposed to vote and not push it earlier.  I can tell you - because they thought they would be winning more states and they didn't care enough about Fla or Mich to wait.


    Now I understand that she is going to go to the meeting and push that even with FL and MI she doesn't have enough votes, but she's now going to push for them to just dismiss Obama (even though he has more delagates and votes, and states won), that they should just dump him and make her the nominee because she believes she can win over McCain. She really needs to wake up.  She's just like her husband - a legend in their own minds.  If she steals this from Obama and becomes the nominee (which I doubt very very much) but if she was to be able to finagle that so much dirt would come out going all the way back to Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, etc, etc,


    Maybe what they should be doing is taking responsibility and telling the citizens of FL & MI the real reason why their votes are not being counted - because of her and her decisions she made and if they blame anyone they should blame her for not following the laws.


    And on another side cannot anyone tell me why in the world Obama's name was not on the ticket in MI.  I have not for the life of me figured out that one.  Only her name was on the ticket?  Helloooo....the last time I looked there were two candidates.  Now they are trying to say Obama removed his name from the ticket.  Yeah, right, tell me another one.  I hear that and I think, what country do we live in where the person who wants to be president has only their name on the ballot.  That's what I hear happens in Cuba, Russia and all those other communist countries.


    When wil the insanity end?


     


     


    I have every right to post my opinions :)
    now I am finished with this really. these are my opinions and you just are not going to change them no matter how much you try to intimidate or try to demean me. your unkind words from the previous posts were all I needed to see. you came out as if it was you I was talking about so you must identify very strongly with this particular person. if that offends you - there is not much I can say, you are going to just keep on keeping on...

    I still stick to my opinions from my first post, sorry you are offended so...

    go ahead, have the last word...
    THAT is the most insane statement I've ever heard!
    How the heck can a baby born in this country to ILLEGAL parents be a legal citizen.  You're fine with that?  Makes me wonder if you are an American citizen.
    Oh, I knew I was right. I could hear your insane cackle
    I recognized it from when I transcribed for a loony bin.

    Loser.
    Oh I see....just drive by and repeat the same opinions over and over.
    Thank you for clarifying that for me.
    So be it. We have differing opinions, both of us are entitled....
    No matter who gets elected, I hope things get better for you. Sincerely.
    here is the audio from barbara bush's insane statement

    Barbara Bush-Audio


    via Atrios And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (she chuckled)--this is working very well for them....read on 


                                                                    Audio-MP3


    What's sad is that she doesn't even realize how insane her statements are?


    Excuse me, but you will not dictate whether or not I include articles in my post.

    I post articles here in order to encourage a debate about the articles.  In your limited Israel-is-always-right-and-anyone-who-questions-that-is-worthy-of-a-rabid-attack attitude, you can't see that and once again wish to control everything, even how people communicate with each other.


    All you want to do is tear down, not build anything.  I gave my reasons for posting this article.  In those reasons I expressed some skepticism about Hezbollah's sincerity.  Instead of offering an intelligent response to those reasons, you once again slammed the door of dialogue and showed that your abilities to communicate are so limited that all you can do is berate and insult.  To call me anti-American only highlights your ignorance.  I am absolutely pro-American, and I'm very fearful where President Bush is leading us.  It's the duty of every American to question what he or she sees as failures or inadequacies in the administration that is in power regardless of party affiliation.  I felt the same way during the Clinton administration, and I feel the same way now.


    If I were to come on here and say that Hezbollah is rebuilding Lebanon and now the Bush administration wants to compete with them, I would get responses that demand I provide my source, and rightly so.  That is the reason I post the entire article itself.  I want to gauge if it brings the same questions to the minds of other (repeat once again) LIBERALS as it does to me.


    You're free to have your opinion of me, but you come off as pompous and controlling, demanding that everyone bow down and kiss Israel's feet.  The mere suggestion that Israel may be even slightly wrong elicits anger and rage from you, and you have shown that repeatedly.


    No, you are not obligated to engage in debate with anyone here, but don't whine and complain that you're unable to when someone offers you the opportunity.  Your failure to do so when invited only proves how angry and full of rage you are.


    For the record, I have never said you were sent to shut down the board.  It's laughable to even imagine you have the power to do that.  You are no more important or influential than I am or than any other poster on this board is.  Get over yourself already.


    And, no, I have no idea which sentence of the original article you find disturbing.  I personally found several of them disturbing, but I refuse to engage in any guessing games with you.


    Am I paranoid?  I sure am these days.  I'm pro-peace and I'm living in a country run by a President who is trigger happy and who has done nothing but incite the world.


    If looking at Israel objectively is anti-Israel according to your definition, then so be it.  You said previously on this board that just because Israel didn't bother to send any troops to Iraq didn't mean they're an ally.  Please enlighten me.  With the BILLIONS of dollars we give Israel every year, along with weapons, we are definitely an ally to Israel.  Please explain how Israel is an ally to us.  Is it because they grace us with their agreement to take our money and then spy on us?  (I could post a number of articles regarding the spying, but since you don't like it when I do that, feel free to Google it on your own.)  What have they done for us in return?


    I have always believed Israel was the underdog in the Middle East and have always favored them.  This is the first time I have ever questioned their actions.  We here in America still have freedom of thought and speech, whether you like it or not.  You know nothing of me, including how I believe.  Your assessment of me is not only wrong, it's absurd and only proves how you interact with people who disagree.  I am very relieved that you are not representative of all Israelis, as it gives me a small sense of hope. 


    I doubt your sincerity in stating that I'm not worth the time to answer, considering all the time you spent doing just that.  Another example of your hypocrisy.  No doubt you will waste your time once again responding to this with more hatred and insults, only this time I will let you have the last word, since you are now no longer worth the time it takes to respond.


    My vote is based on issues, -include character.nm
    nm
    I would only consider myself totally insane if I voted for McCain/Palin!
    How about you? By the way, no need to feel sorry for me, I live at the beach, have a loving husband, lots of friends, a good job, and a great life. I also look forward to a bright future for the United States with President Obama.
    Please do not waste our time with lies and insane allegations! nm
    xx
    I'm curious....does your view include Sarah Palin?
    and the way the media continues to demonize her and her family?

    Or does this just apply to Pres. Obama. In your view.
    No, I think the point is you don't seek out diverse opinions..sm
    I watch Fox, listen to Hannity, O'Reilly, and many other conservatives (the ones that can be civil and are not self centered). I read and watch opposing views as often as I do amen columns/shows.

    Condi Rice said at a graduation ceremony, (as I remember reading the article) *If you feel strongly about something (politically) that's fine, just seek out someone who feels the exact opposite and talk to them about it.*
    GP is entitle to have 2 opinions on 2 unrelated topics.
    x
    proposed tax policies which include granting rebates to most US workers.

    That statement jumped out at me.


     


    No, I watch the same thing, only I seek out diverse opinions.sm
    In the past, I did not.

    Here's a quiz for you: Name the best-known and most influential conservative commentators in America? Rush Limbaugh? George F. Will? Bill O'Reilly? Now, quick, who are their liberal counterparts?
    Opinions count. Nothing wrong in researching them as long as
    nm
    Excuse me, I am intelligent, I listen to all of it, and make my own opinions....sm
    STOP making the broad generalizations, it rates right up there with the "psychics and fortune tellers" who just know that Obama will fail and are actually licking their lips waiting for it. How childish. If you chose to listen to Rush and follow him, great for you, I guess. If I choose to listen to him and come to a divergent conclusion about his motives or veracity, or anything else about the man, I am also free to. You know the hold saying about ASSUMING?????????
    Send a letter to the director of the school system and include that message. sm
    This has absolutely nothing to do with being instructed in English.

    Sounds like the teacher is foisting her principles and ideas on youngsters, which she has no right to do. It's none of her business who and who was not born out of wedlock. She has no right to tell youngsters to get married and stay married, that's none of her business either. She has no right to tell a youngster to take a job and keep it, no matter what the pay. I'm wondering how old this teacher is.

    Write a letter of complaint to the Board of Education, stating the above and ask them what this has to do with English instruction.

    She's not a morals counselor, she's supposed to be a teacher of English.

    Maybe the ACLU would be interested. You never know. Can't hurt to ask.

    It that was my kid, I'd be in the teacher's face big time.
    If you go there, please include Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Obama, McCain....the list goes
    You can't be selective. If you insist on putting blame for the current situation our country is in, you must put the blame on each and every person that was a part of it.



    Opinions on Hillary's proposed health care system?
    Personally, I'm against mandatory health insurance laws.  Look how mandatory auto insurance goes - you buy the cheapest policy because you can't afford the good ones.  Your policy covers squat, but you're legal.  I'm concerned the "affordable" health insurance she wants to force us to buy will turn into the same thing - a crap policy that covers nothing but keeps you legal.  Does anybody else feel like I do about this?