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desperate smear tactics. nm

Posted By: tired of it on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: Oh Obama lovers....it just keeps getting - better.............sm

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Smear tactics?
Obama was asked this question, one of a few journalist with some integrity, as to why he allowed these women to be removed? After all, he knew it but didn't stop it. He stumbled and fumbled and fumbled and stuttered for words because he is so used to having no one ask him the hard questions, he didn't know what he should say because anything at that point would have been back peddling and he knew it.

Obama out of his own mouth, not made up stuff like you want to believe, said he had gotten himself a little 'ole Muslim liason to help smooth things over, because the last people he wants to offend are the Muslims, Heaven forbid he offends the Muslims. The heck with offending the taxpayer by insinuating they are too dumb to handle their own lives, so he'll handle it for ya by providing all your needs.
Running scared....DESPERATE, DESPERATE
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No smear here

No, I am not trying to smear.  I do actually believe that conservatives are quick to declare war and this so bloody disgusting fiasco with Iraq proves my belief.  The powers that be in DC have been salivating for at least since Bush Sr about invading and taking over and building a military base/presence in Iraq.  These were and are very prominent conservatives, Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld among them.  I do believe conservatives think we can and have the right to invade and take over wherever we please, especially if it pertains to oil.  There is a saying.  The soldiers go to war republicans but come back democrats and that about sums it up.  If this administration had been in the military, they would not have been so quick to choose war over diplomacy and, yes, I do also fault the democrats who so quickly chose this war.  I shake my head every time I see on TV a soldier being memorialized at his/her funeral.  For goodness sake, I would rather have them home, alive, then dead and memorializing their funeral. 


Smear = Fear
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Another lie. Another SMEAR=FEAR.
Please stop spreading lies.
It's not a smear campaign and it's not a failure
The reality of what Mrs. or should I say Ms., Sheehan is doing speaks for itself.   The Swift Boat thing surely didn't get your boy Kerry in the office now did it?  
This board is the epitome of smear
and you dare make that statement...arrogance rules this board.
Recycled smear, some of it 2 years old.
It's not working now. We will be impatiently waiting for McCain to turn the page back to the economy and start acting like a serious presidential contender.
PS. What's all the shouting about anyway? this is old, old, old news.
So you are mumping now from the messiah smear
There is nothing in your characterization of Obama's position on small business that remotely resembles and accurate statement. Not only can you not hear, you obviously can't read either.

Obama and Biden have posted an extremely detailed plan in the Blueprint for Change that describes very creative and innovative ways in which small businesses will be supported and encouraged. The tax cuts and who will benefits can also be found there. I see noting in McCain's plan that compares.
Run another guilt by association smear campaign
watch that landslide turn into a monster avalanche. Some people never learn.
Looks like O is getting ready to turn that ACORN smear
Asking DOJ for special prosecutor to investigate Bush-McCain vote fraud scheme.  Now, this story is going to start growing some real teeth.  2000.  2004.  2008....NOT.   
As totally unbiased as the smear campaign on the CON board....?
And before casting aspersions on others?  
I need to change tactics...

I should probably refrain from any dialogue and perhaps just correct posts that are obviously erroneous (like the one about poverty in the U.S.).  Correcting factual errors on their posts would probably be a full time job.  Besides I enjoy the research and learn lots!!


Thanks for reading and thanks for your comments.


I like what McCain said about the tactics not
allowing media to always be right on the scene and privy to knowledge they needn't have are that our enemies can retrieve the same info they feel the American public should know and anticipate our next moves. There are some things that should be kept quiet but media in this day and age seem to feel nothing is off limits. I agree with McCain on that point. As for "promising" to find bin Laden, I have only read that McCain says he knows how to find him and will follow him to the Gates of HeII to do so. Not saying he didn't promise it elsewhere, but I only read the above.
Mostly just scare tactics
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Can you say scare tactics? sm
I knew you could.

I hope your dad's phone has caller ID and that he reports this call to the authorities and to the telephone company.
You are right, I am desperate.

Desperate to have a little bit more money left out of my hard-earned checks to take care of my 3 kids.  Desperate to be able to quit one of my 3 jobs so I can spend more time with them before they grow up and leave the nest.  Desperate for the hard-working among us to finally catch a break and the lazy bums to have to sacrifice SOMETHING. 


I opened my house and home for 3 months to a neighbor of mine whose husband had left her and their child.  I got a real quick primer on the life of one of "those less fortunate ones".  It turns out all she wanted to do was lay in bed until 11, smoke, watch a few soaps, maybe or maybe not go to work for a couple of hours, smoke, eat, smoke, talk on my phone for 2 or 3 hours every night, smoke, then sleep for another 10 hours. 


Not an unfortunate one.   A lazy, lazy, lazy one.  Why work when you can get $$ every month for nothing?  It doesn't take them long to learn that lesson.  And she is teaching it to her children too.  


Something has got to give. 


 


Thats what happens when you are desperate to
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OMG........ HE'S GETTING DESPERATE!!
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Nobody's desperate...
Barack Obama is going to be our next president.

You guys are the desperate ones. You guys are the type of ignorant, uninformed people who give the former distinguished Republican party a bad name.
Why don't you research the tactics and find
out what's true. If you still don't care, then that's just on you.
sounds like intimidation tactics...
I am the original poster and I stick with my original post and my opinion.

it was called as I saw it. it was 'questionable' to me and something I WILL consider when time to make that choice.

this country is full of children whose parents are too busy working or attending to their own needs. schools not only provide lunches for children anymore, they provide breakfast, and even dinners for some. more and more children are being pawned off as the responsibility of those other than the parents, babysitters, government, day care, on and on, and more and more are left to the horrors of predators, on-line, off-line, in their schools, in their playgrounds.

I was looking for some sign of what kind of mother this person is and I was not happy with what I saw, period.

no one was trying to put anyone back to barefoot and pregnant, or whatever you wrote. BUT if they wanted that it is their business.

frankly, I have always envied women who did not have to work and could stay home and raise their beautiful children. that was a luxury I never had nor did my children.

that is my opinion.
More like a voice of scare tactics.
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Just more scare-tactics propaganda. nm
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More scare tactics...just in a rhyme!
Go Obama!
C'mon, GP.....maybe not scare tactics....
maybe honest concern. Just because Obama won, you think that all disappears? Of course not. Had Obama lost, would all your concerns about McCain just magically disappear? I would think, based on your posts, you could be a little more charitable about it. Your guy won. Don't expect the rest of us to embrace him immediately. We have a trust issue and it is up to him to work his way out of that. Being sniped at by his supporters does not help us in that journey. :-)
I don't take pride in underhanded tactics to win
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Sounds a bit too much like Bush's tactics.
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Didn't say I agree with his tactics.....
Just noticing how poster doesn't seem to care for anyone protesting against gays.

It wouldn't matter if it were ANYONE from ANY church, poster would have a problem with that too!

I think Rev Phelps needs to do a little more Bible reading. His methods are sickening.
desperate attempt

to snag the unhappy Hilliary supporters.  They predicted this last night -- if McCain felt desperate after watching the Dem convention, he would pick a wild card candidate.  If he felt safe, he would go with Romney.  Tthanks for showing your cards, Mac.  Hill's people are progressive, they won't vote for a ticket that is against women's rights just because one is a woman.


Boy, they're getting desperate.....
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You are so desperate you will vote for anything
The man refuses to even prove his citizenship...why?

You have never been able to refute any facts and that just bugs the crap out you.

Facts are your enemy...

Rattle on all you want but the man has been denied a call for dismissal to prove his citizenship by a judge, who says he has to prove it.


Desperate for the truth to come out about
By the way, you might want to ask youself a couple of questions. If Obama is so invested in, colluded and directly associated with ACORN and up to his eyeballs in corruption and scandal, why do you suppose he is preparing to bring the whole thing out in the open and shine a national spotlight on this issue? With the poll numbers and electoral map so favorable toward him just 17 days going into the election, why would he risk it all by going on the offensive and pursuing an issue that pubs would have us all believe should condemn his as unfit for office?

Oh yeah. I'm gonna just sit back and enjoy the ride.
channel 2 reported on recruiters tactics
Channel 2 did a bit on their nightly news.  I believe it was a college paper reporter who went undercover and told the recruiters he had done drugs and other things that would have disqualified him and the recruiters were salivating at the thought of signing him up and told him ways to get into the service even though. These recruiters would take a dead man if his body was still warm, for pete sake.  I say, you need people in the military, check out the people in the administration, ask if their children will join for the *better good of all to bring democracy to the world*.
No scare tactics. Just pointing out that we don't live
If we don't start talking with some of these countries, and trying to find a way to get them thinking of other things to do with their artillery than aim it at us, then sooner or later, our little plastic bubble could get blown to bits. We're not invincible.
Republican Mantra - Scare Tactics
You better vote for John McCain or the Boogeyman is going to get us. McCain couldn't even keep himself free from the enemy, how is he going to keep the entire United States free from them? Oh, I know, he is going to send Sarah Palin after the Boogeyman...she'll protect us!
Scare tactics!! Ohhh, be afraid, be very
afraid.  You rightwingers are such wimps!  Well, as Roosevelt once said and as Barack Hussein Obama repeats, "We have nothing to fear but fear itself."  The rightwingers have surely gotten to the skittish.  I, for one, am very afraid of McPalin.  Now there's reason to fear them. They have nothing to offer, just more of the same old politics and power-hungry greed.  Get away from me!  If you want to base your decisions on lies, then you all deserve whatever comes from McPalin, but the thing is that our country will be stuck in the mire for another four years.  So big deal, McCain was shot out of the sky...so were hundreds of others, others have given their lives for this country but McCain votes against any bill that will cost anything to help them....some leader he will make.  Makes me wanna puke!  Country First...doubt it!!
Scare tactics or stern warnings.....sm
Just got to thinking about this after ExMQMT made the statements she did below about being scared. Now, I know there was an element of sarcasm in her post, and I can appreciate the dark humor of it.

However, I think people really should look at the big picture here and understand that, with all of the findings (and yes, they are documented) of Obama's associations and religious upbringing, he could very possibly be a threat to our nation in a lot of ways. When the Russians were "loaded for moose" back in the 1950s, people were warned about the danger, but a lot of them chose to call it scare tactics. Granted, Russia never blew us off the map, but knowing that they could and that they were a threat to our country made our citizens more aware that there was more to life than what was going on in their own secure back yard. Saying that Obama is a threat to us because of his associations and religious beliefs (Muslim or Wright-brand religion) is not a scare tactic to coerce people into voting for him. It is a stern warning that this man is a wolf in sheep's clothing and that we need to be aware of the implications of electing someone who is such a person.
You are getting desperate and still repeating the same phrases. NM

LOL! Either desperate or just plain sloppy.

Are THEY just plain stupid or do they think WE are? 


While we realize how desperate the pubs are to
"reinvent" their party, the notion that 1 sarcastic speech, void of policy and issues, by SP is going to cast some sort of hypnotic spell, suspend the nation in a state of collective amnesia, wave the fairy godmother's magic wand and make the last 8 years of pub policies that have raped our economy disappear is almost as insulting as thinking women outside the Christian right NeoCon factions will be voting with their genitalia. Our memories reach far beyond the sound bytes of this speech and, believe it or not, we have been paying attention.

JM selected a pick that he thinks can be sold as HC's equal, is just as much of a superstar as O and can deliver speeches that are just as inspiring. The campaign is transparent in their attempt to highjack the Change, Vision and Hope themes as well. Try your best, but what you cannot do is sell any of us on the idea that the pubs now can lay claim to being champions of the working class. Smoke and mirrors cannot disguise the fact that they will give tax cuts to the rich, favor corporations and be 4 more years of the same old poop.

JM's VP pick has shifted the party image right back into the category of NeoCon. Hello. That is what we are all trying run as fast and as far away from as we possibly can. O is the candidate of change, and no amount of spin will change that basic fact.
Still holding out that last desperate hope
DNC has proven this over and over and over and over and over again. Burden or proof is now on the Berg the Boob.
McC camp is so desperate they will even pose
Wouldn't be the first pub plant we've encountered. Role playing for the sake of argument will not win any elections. You have zero credibility.
Th witch hunt is getting desperate.
Such thoughtless ignorance, such little time. Where to start? Obama's father left him mom when he was a baby. He is a child of divorce. In his entire life, he knew his father for 1 month. He has some communication with Kenyan relatives but not all of them. It is not surprising that they would not have that much in common, having been raised by different parents of different races halfway around the world from each other.

So, against this background, consider if you will how divorced families in the United States relate to one another. If you yourself were from a divorced family, would you necessarily keep up with the whereabouts of your dead father's HALF-sister wh you never knew? Would you even know her last name, her husband's name, how many children she has or even her hometown?

I would not expect him to even know she was in the United States, much less her legal status. Furthermore, I would not be sticking my nose into an elder relative's personal affairs, asking such questions as to her legal status. I would probably respect the elder and give her the benefit of the doubt. In fact, it would ot even cross my mind.

Having said that, there is another aspect of this family situation that comes into play. African family structures operate much, much differently than American families. Many tribes in Africa reckon the identity of their children through the MOTHER, not the father, like we do here in the west. Wives do not take their husband's names and neither do the children. Therefore, kinship via the mother's ancestors is central. So here we have a combination of divorce, death of a relative who abandoned his son, geographic separation, racial separation (being raised in a white world) and cultural separation. It is not at all hard for me to understand that he would not have known her legal status or even that she was still here. If the contribution came from a New York address, there would have been no reason for campaign workers to question its legality, nor would they have know she was his aunt.

All I need to know about Obama's family values is the way he treats his own wife and children and what he says about responsible parenting. I think is is ridiculous that you have the gall to sit in judgment over something you have no way of knowing anyhing about. Grasping at straws in the 11th hour of the campaign will not win any elections.
The witch hunt is getting desperate
While I realize that Obama's book is WAY over your head, you should be able to grasp at least its title...DREAMS of my father, as in how an abandoned son might imagine his father and feel the need to understand the parent he never knew. Unlike you, I do not get my information from YouTube, fringe chat rooms and Fix Noise, errr, I mean Fox News. I actually read BOOKS and have read up on Obama enough to know a little bit about the estrangement he feels from his Kenyan family and when I wrote that, I had Maya Soetoro-Ng in mind who maintains a relationship with Obama.

I studied African tribal family structures and America family structure in (now get ready) college...cultural and social anthropology, cultural geography and sociology of family courses for starters and have maintained an interest in cultural studies for more than 30 years, so I CONTINUED to read about these subjects of interest. Survivor TV would be on your level, not mine. Obama supporters are, how should I say this, known to be a tad more educated than (how did that political analyst says it yesterday?...oh, yes) the downscale McCain voter and as such are much less prone to the mob mentality that adopts and chants flock buzz words such as "sheeple" and the like. Then again, I would not expect you to be ale to wrap you brain around African tribal customs and how kinship reckoning affects cultural family value systems, especially outside of the lower 48, but I do think that Obama's global mentality probably get the gist of it.

Now, if you don't mind, I need a breath of fresh air and a little distance between myself and this ignorant post of yours.

You're just desperate for any port in the
My 401K is still down almost 50%, my home value has not begun to recover, and I'm looking at $trillions and $trillions in debt coming down the road that will literally smash all of us.

Grow up. The market moving from way, way in the dumper to a little bit less in the dumper is nothing whatsoever to crow about.

Oh - and besides, you'll remember that you're looking at the activities of money managers, who don't give a rip about what's going on in the real economy with the real folks. Remember?
Scare tactics? If it was supposed to be scary....it wasn't...
it is just odd that the combination of the names worked out that way. Freaky, yes. Scary...not hardly. It it was meant to be scary it was lost on this Independent.
Disgusting! Pure racism and fear tactics. nm
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LOL - geez, we're getting desperate, aren't we?

Why should O be desperate? Pubs have been spoiling for a fight
All nice and legal, headed up by a brilliant, constitutional attorney. DOJ is considering the request. Stay tuned.
Agree. It's called being desperate for attention.
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