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divided we fall, people; no matter who the leader will be,

Posted By: we the people need to stay united. NM on 2008-08-21
In Reply to: Mutual respect, ever heard of it? - We wont hold our breath

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It is SO nice to see you people here who don't fall
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You people are like those girls who fall for the bad
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And I guess I'm the sheeple people serpent leader. LOL
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your bad leader is anothers good leader
There are many bad leaders of countries..It is not our place to invade and take over the countries..Heck, lots of the world think we have a bad leader causing bad things in the world..Would we allow other countries to invade America and take us over cause Bush is a bad murderous leader?  We had NO RIGHT to invade Iraq, none whatsoever..and who decides who is a bad leader?  Your bad leader is a wonderful leader to another..We need to take care of America..and these hurricanes show that..My mother always told me charity begins at home.
Facts don't matter to some people, I've come to that conclusion. sm
The democratic party leaders stand up there day in and day out, saying it wasn't their fault, it's the republicans, even when audio, video, etc., are available for anyone's review, even on this site today, that prove that they, the dems themselves, are/were the ones at fault....somehow they weasel out of it and scream and point fingers at the republicans.

I am just amazed and astounded......


Why, so we can be sure to be divided?
Why would you separate We the People like that? We NEED to be able to discuss matters of common interest - or do you want an American version of Sunni's and Shiites?
More divided than ever because of
rightwing folks like Lush.  Hatemongers.  No other reason. 
Divided and Conquered

 


As a recovering Democrat-turned-Independent I think it's a mistake to separate the boards into Independent, Green conservative and liberal.


Separating We the People along the lines of gender, religion, party, race, political party, and wedge issues is *exactly how* the tiny rich and powerful elite in this country *stay* in power.


They know that as long as we are arguing about divisive issues, we *can't unite* based on what we have in common.


Think about it:  Liberals can carp and conservatives can whine, and blah blah blah while the power base continues to rape the treasury - our hard earned taxes - blind.


The corruption is rampant and crosses *both party lines* (there is really only one anyway).  The question is:  How long are We the People going to continue to play by *their* CORRUPT rules?


 


Our country is definitely divided.

He11....just look at this board.  LOL! 


I think it took a lot of guts for her to come out and say she was supporting McCain.  I saw part of her interview this morning and she gave a great interview. She was very well spoken and said a lot of good things. 


A house divided...
Unfortunately, until we can get over ourselves, we won't. I just wonder how bad it will have to get before we wake up.

I guess we'll find out soon.
Obviously we are a divided nation.
Do not see how any of this will work. With no republican vote, that speaks volumes to me. Obviously cannot work together or see eye to eye with the future.
Will Jerusalem be divided among the 3 religions
as it should and hopefully will be?
Garbage is garbage - no matter how many people watch it
Call a spade a spade.
Fall guy
Yup it looks like those courts you hold up as infallible founts of truth - they are highly fallible and can be prejudiced.  Looks like they went after the wrong guy in Scooter.  You ever wonder why? 
Oh, how the mighty fall.nm

That's what they WANT you to believe...don't fall for it...do more research...nm
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Let CitiGroup fall
They have a terrible record of how they treat customers. According to a friend of mine who is a bankruptcy attorney, he said that over 75% of his clients file for bankruptcy because Citigroup raises interest rates astronomically, increases minimum payments, etc. They usually flat out refuse to work with people, so they file BR to make them go away.

Our mortgage is with Citi, and while we haven't had any problems with payments, they are terrible about posting payments late (I watch my account like a hawk), miscalculating interest, etc.

They brought this on themselves.
You really fall for all that garbage don't ya?
The levy failed because their precious Mayor Negan blew the 60 million dollars he was given years earlier to do just that.......FIX THE LEVY! Did ya see any of those welfare recipients yelling at the mayor to fix the levy? Pleeeeze! Most couldn't even tell you anything about their local government or any government for that matter. At what point does their mayor hold any responsibility for the lives lost? What I'm seeing here is any black person in power who is a crook, i.e., in this case, Negan, who took all those millions and no questions asked, then no one blames him because he's black, but if that had been a white mayor, all he!! would have broke lose on him and all the questions as to where all those 60 millions bucks were to fix the levy!!

Do your homework and stop playing that blame game. Those poor souls as they love to be referred to, couldn't give a rat's butt about contributing to their society in a positive fashion. What family planning strategy would you recommend? Keep your legs closed? How much money does one need to do that?

Sorry you have such a bad feeling for republicans, Dr. Martin Luther King WAS A REPUBLICAN!!!

Just so ya know!!
It will fall as manna from the sky.
You obviously do not understand Obamanomics, silly wabbit.  (I am being sarcastic again folks, and also using a simile.  I will try to use irony in another post and 'splain that to you then.)
Isnt the fall just great?
Isnt this time of the year great?  My favorite holiday is Halloween.  Cant wait!  It has been in the 40's overnight this past week, so nice.  Now if we just could have some rain.
I fall in to the you lefties are evil

I fall in this category and this is NOT TRUE.
Hassert needs to get his facts straight.


Well, I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears
but without God in EVERYTHING, you're up crap creek without a paddle deary....

My question to you is why not bring God into it? What gives you the right to say God shouldn't be brought into every aspect of our lives.....just because you have no relationship with God doesn't mean we all feel the way you do.

By pushing God aside, it generally gives those who want to justify their causes the lack of conscience in order to push their agendas.
I don't know if we'll fall in that category
Our mortgage is at 6.5% interest, I think MSN said it had to be over 7%?

I didn't get to see his speech, I've been trying to read up with some articles and read what's written here (with a grain of salt of course)

We are okay for now, but like you said, one bad month and we could be in trouble. We are fortunate enough to have family members that could help us for a month or two if things got really bad, but of course not indefinitely.

We are trying to sell our house now and move back to my husband's hometown, that way we'll cut our gas bill (he drives about 90 miles a day for work out there) and we are planning to buy a mobile home and put it on family land until things get better. If we can sell our home for what we are asking then we can pay our credit card bills (about $5,000 between the both of us) and actually put some money in savings, because it scares me that we don't have any money in savings. I just don't feel right saving money when I owe people!

I just get scared. We have tried to do right. We took out a straight fixed mortgage, we didn't buy much of a house at all, his truck is a 96 and mine's a 98, we don't have big screen tv's or fancy furniture, and our mortgage is as much as it is to rent a house around here. But we are young, and we don't have things like savings and health insurance, and we know if just one thing goes wrong we could be in a lot of trouble. My poor DH has been graduated with a bachelor's degree for almost a year now, has applied all over, and can't catch a break. He has a good GPA, experience in working with youth and troubled teens, and a likeable personality (I know I'm biased lol) but things just never seem to come together!

Oh well. Everything happens for a reason. All we can do is pray and keep our noses clean! (and put every extra dime towards paying off debt!)


I don’t fall into the sky is falling category
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Bush Approval Continues to Fall

Could the rest of America be getting a clue?


August 17, 2005



Bush Approval Continues to Fall

President Bush’s job approval has dropped to 41% nationwide, according to the results of 50 separate but concurrent, statewide public opinion polls conducted by SurveyUSA. Bush’s aproval rating ranges from a high of 59% in Idaho to a low of 29% in Rhode Island.

  • Bush is above 50% in 7 states.
  • Bush is at 50% in 2 states.
  • Bush is below 50% in 41 states.
Compared to last month's poll, Bush's approval numbers dropped 5 or more points in 10 states. The single largest drop was in Minnesota, where it fell 10 points. Bush also fell 9 points in New Mexico.

Do not fall for this hysteria... we all need calm heads
or we will all be in trouble, republican and democrats.  This is becoming the perfect storm for socialism if we do not stop being led around by those trying to play on our emotions. 
And again, they fall silent.....stuck her foot in
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I'm standing outside with my basket. Will it fall soon, I hope? sm
...and please, if you wish to be understood by the widest viewership, confine yourself to smaller words. I believe "irony" has three of them syllerbubble thingies, which is two over the limit.
Barney Frank.....what planet did he fall off

Barney Frank wants less govt and state rights when it comes to drugs.... but he wants "regulation" and "more enforcement" when it comes to everything else that takes away MY rights...... what a joke!


 


Right....like the news media didn't fall all over themselves trying to get first in line...you ne

you 'right-wings' just hope, wish and wait to see O fail and fall.
God bless Obama and give him strength and wisdom!
Young Voters Fall for Obama’s Promises Without Any Historical Perspective..sm
Election 2008: Young Voters Fall for Obama’s Promises Without Any Historical Perspective

By Liz Peek
Financial Columnist

Today we will almost surely elect Barack Obama President of the United States. A new generation will vote for Mr. Obama –- a generation that has grown up with the Internet. This new crop of voters has access to more information than any that came before, and yet has swallowed Obama’s impossible campaign promises and contradictory policies just as trustingly as those who in earlier times looked for a chicken in every pot.

Welcome to the disillusionment of another generation. I don’t anticipate this inevitable consequence of today’s election with any glee, believe me. To see young people turning out in droves to vote for this eloquent, attractive young man is inspiring. To hear them buy into his promises, though, is sobering.

For instance, we are told that the image of the United States has suffered mightily under George Bush, and that Obama is going to usher in a veritable global love-fest. Would those falling over themselves to herald our new president include the peoples of South Korea and Colombia –- allies both — whose much-needed free trade agreements with the U.S. Obama has opposed?

How about our neighbors in Canada or Mexico; will Obama’s promised re-write of NAFTA endear them to the U.S.? Is it possible that Obama’s opposition to free trade demonstrates his gratitude to labor unions –- groups that aroused his ire by donating to the Clinton and Edwards campaigns but suddenly were much more warmly welcomed when they began shifting funds his way?

Over a year ago I wrote a tongue-in-cheek column defending the status quo against the pressing demand for “Change” writ large. While politicians of all stripes were heralding new directions, they were ignoring, for example, that the U.S. has been blessed for many years with low inflation. Voters in their 30s and 40s could not be expected to remember the devastating inflation of the 1970s. They couldn’t be expected to understand how double-digit price hikes threw the fear of God into retirees on fixed incomes and created the same kind of paralysis in lending that we are witnessing today.

They might not connect the dots between Obama’s enthusiasm for the Employee Free Choice Act, a resurgence of unionization, and wage-driven inflation. They might not realize that restricting trade with China, re-writing NAFTA and barring adoption of free trade agreements with Colombia and South Korea will indeed drive prices higher.

The United States has also enjoyed a period of stable employment. The new generation has never seen serious unemployment. True, they have witnessed shifts in employment as manufacturing jobs have been lost to lower-priced locales. But they have never seen unemployment rates go much above 6%, where it is now. In 1982, when unemployment reached 9.7%, Obama was 21 years old. I doubt he was much focused on the dismal state of the economy. Voters, however, were focused, and gave Ronald Reagan a mandate to set the country on a new course –- one which encouraged growth through lower taxes, expanded trade and deregulation.

That program was adopted by both Democrats and Republicans because it worked. People in their thirties and forties cannot imagine that raising taxes on successful people might harm the economy. That’s because they weren’t around to witness the exodus of talent from England –- a country wherein punitive marginal tax rates squashed incentives and drove out anyone who could locate elsewhere. Margaret Thatcher didn’t just join the Reagan Revolution –- she clung to it for dear life.

What young voters have seen, and have responded to, is the collapse of Wall Street. Because bankers, politicians and speculators conspired to create the worst investment bubble in modern times, we are about to abandon the policies that brought millions of people around the world into the middle class. Policies that gave people real hope –- not just its rhetorical facsimile. This is a tragedy.



http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/04/lpeek_1104/#more-2415


WHAT A LEADER!!!!
Did New Orleans Catastrophe Have to Happen? 'Times-Picayune' Had Repeatedly Raised Federal Spending Issues

 Even though Hurricane Katrina has moved well north of the city, the waters may still keep rising in New Orleans. That's because Lake Pontchartrain continues to pour through a two-block-long break in the main levee, near the city's 17th Street Canal. With much of the Crescent City some 10 feet below sea level, the rising tide may not stop until it's level with the massive lake.

New Orleans had long known it was highly vulnerable to flooding and a direct hit from a hurricane. In fact, the federal government has been working with state and local officials in the region since the late 1960s on major hurricane and flood relief efforts. When flooding from a massive rainstorm in May 1995 killed six people, Congress authorized the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, or SELA.

Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside.

 

Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.

Newhouse News Service, in an article posted late Tuesday night at The Times-Picayune Web site, reported: No one can say they didn't see it coming. ... Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation.

In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.

The 2004 hurricane season was the worst in decades. In spite of that, the federal government came back this spring with the steepest reduction in hurricane and flood-control funding for New Orleans in history. Because of the proposed cuts, the Corps office there imposed a hiring freeze. Officials said that money targeted for the SELA project -- $10.4 million, down from $36.5 million -- was not enough to start any new jobs.

There was, at the same time, a growing recognition that more research was needed to see what New Orleans must do to protect itself from a Category 4 or 5 hurricane. But once again, the money was not there. As the Times-Picayune reported last Sept. 22:

That second study would take about four years to complete and would cost about $4 million, said Army Corps of Engineers project manager Al Naomi. About $300,000 in federal money was proposed for the 2005 fiscal-year budget, and the state had agreed to match that amount. But the cost of the Iraq war forced the Bush administration to order the New Orleans district office not to begin any new studies, and the 2005 budget no longer includes the needed money, he said.

The Senate was seeking to restore some of the SELA funding cuts for 2006. But now it's too late.

One project that a contractor had been racing to finish this summer: a bridge and levee job right at the
17th Street Canal, site of the main breach on Monday.

The Newhouse News Service article published Tuesday night observed, The Louisiana congressional delegation urged Congress earlier this year to dedicate a stream of federal money to Louisiana's coast, only to be opposed by the White House. ... In its budget, the Bush administration proposed a significant reduction in funding for southeast Louisiana's chief hurricane protection project. Bush proposed $10.4 million, a sixth of what local officials say they need.

Local officials are now saying, the article reported, that had Washington heeded their warnings about the dire need for hurricane protection, including building up levees and repairing barrier islands, the damage might not have been nearly as bad as it turned out to be.


By Will Bunch
Philadelphia
Daily News.


 


AND THIS IS MY OWN TAKE, THE REASON PEOPLE ARE DYING BY THE MINUTE, NO FOOD, NO WATER, NO SANITATION, NO COMMUNICATIONS - IT IS ALL WRAPPED UP A WORLD AWAY IN IRAQ.  THERE IS STILL ONLY ONE ROAD INTO NEW ORLEANS, THE REST HAVE TO COME BY CHOPPER, BUT BOAT.  BUT WHERE ARE OUR CHOPPERS, MANPOWER AND BOATS?  THEY ARE OVER IN IRAQ WHEN WE NEED THEM HERE, YESTERDAY.  DID YALL CATCH THE STUPID SOB BEING INTERVIEWED BY DIANE SAWYER ON GMA?  HE SAYS ALL LOOTERS SHOULD BE DEALT WITH AGGRESSIVELY.  IN MY OPINION THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOOTERS WHO ARE TRYING TO FIND A BOTTLE OF LIQUID, OR FOOD, THAN THOSE WHO ARE LOOTING GUNS AND JEWELRY.  HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH AN IDIOT?  IS HOPE IN SITE?


Fox was the leader with

pushing the Rev garbage and trying to drum up the Ayres story.  They are devoted to destroying his candidacy.  I have seen them throw slurs at him in just mentioning where he was campaigning in a day -- little asides. They did that story about Obama throwing flags in the garbage.  I don't believe any non-republican should appear on their network.  I believe they have a right to do whatever they want on that station, but don't lie and say they are impartial. I believe that people who like that kind of stuff (The Factor and Ann Coulter) should be able to watch it; just don't go spreading the distortions as truth.  Palin is not answering to any journalists.  If she is qualified she can handle Chris Mathews just like every other politician. Everyone has to go on Meet the Press - people want to see her speak.


I think Andrea Mitchell is a repub - I'm not sure - but she would definitely give Sp a fair shake with fair questions.


 


I would not say that O is a non-leader
but I think it is time for some action, especially in the Gaza Strip. Saturday Israel was again massacering Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
This instead of accepting a 2-state solution Netanyahu agreed a couple of days ago!
Leader?
Of course he's no leader, he's a follower. Look at all the low lifes he was hanging out with, sitting in church with... please!! This guy is a joke.

He has never had 1 executive job in his life.... never!!!
You're right...anyone thinking he's a leader is definitely dreaming!

He knows nothing about executive decision making...AT ALL!
what do you call a leader

who keeps proposing things -- put off convention, put off debates -- and everyone just ignores him and goes about their business.  Not much of a leader.


 


what do you call a leader....
who puts his interests above those of the country?
I was a leader in the Army
Serving in the Army, I know what it is like to be a leader. It not something you learn overnight and doesn't come automatically. It takes years to become a good leader and your actions determine whether or not you are one. A leader exhibits certain qualities (confidence, self-discipline, and intelligence to name a couple). To be a good leader you must listen to many. Communicate with your peers for advice to make the best informed decision. You need to back your people up. You need to stick by them and stick up for them. You need to treat them with respect. You need to be the first to put your foot down on enemy territory and the last to take your foot off. You need to have a vision and see the big picture. You need to communicate effectively and find common ground to work together. You need to be able to motivate and inspire, and most importantly hold yourself to the highest of standards. And you never ever quit. Quitting is not an option. I could probably go on at length about being a leader.

The post above has nothing to do with being a leader. Putting off a debate in the times that we are going through so that you can go back to Washington to do your job and help to fix the problem is the responsible thing to do, which goes to show again that Sen. John McCain is a truly responsible leader. He is putting the American people before his own self interest. This crisis must be resolved before anything further can go on. How do you expect to tackle any of the other issues if we can't even get our own country back on track.

Sen John McCain is a true leader. He is telling us it should not fall upon us to bail out the execs while they walk away with millions, and he is the first to put his campaigning on hold to do this. This is the same courage he showed when he was in a POW camp and would not leave before the other soldiers in the camp. Sen. McCain stands up for what is right and will not quit until a solution has been set. He and Gov. Sarah Palin have proven they are not afraid to go against the "good ol boys", while Sen Obama goes along with the good ol boys. If Sen Obama would let the people know that the money he received as a kickback from FMFM he would be paying back would give me a little more confidence that he does care about the people, but Obama, Dodd, Kerry and others (and yes some republicans) are not about to hand back any of the money.

Sen Obama is a smooth talker and that is about all. He tells you what you want to hear but he does not follow through. He is just one more politician giving us a line of hooey thinking he has us fooled (obvious he does have some fooled) but luckily others see through him.

Also, not sure what TV station you watched but Sen McCain did not put off the convention. It went on just as it planned to exactly the dates it was supposed to. Just like the Democratic convention.
What I want is a leader who understands
Palin flunks that test on multiple levels. She does not even have a grip on the duties of the office she is running for...much like Cheney. VPs take over in the event of the death, resignation, or removal of the president. They preside over the senate and break tie votes. They act only as an agent for the president and do not hold any EXECUTIVE powers. They preside over and certify official electoral college vote counts. On some occasions they are called upon by the president for advice, meet with heads of state (God forbid) and attend state functions and funerals. That ALL they do. There is no "flexibility" conferred by the Constitution in this regard, despite her claims to the contrary. She has already shown herself to be interested in MORE than what that office has to offer.

In terms of troopergate, the investigation was not a popularity referendum on the brother-in-law or the trooper she fired for not firing her brother-in-law. Palin clearly had a conflict of interest regarding the outcome of her sister's divorce/custody proceedings. It is customary in the US court system that the outcome of divorces and custody matters are decided in the family civil court system...not at the heavy hand of the governor's office exerting influence and abusing the of power of the office to influence the outcome of the decision. That is what she sought to do when she tried to get her brother-in-law fired....influence the custody decision. She sought to bypass the legal system and take matters into her own hands. That, my dear, is abuse of power. Laws apply to all of us all the time....not just when they suit us, and Palin showed complete disregard for the system and for the people who voted her into office when she decided to assume the role of judge, jury and executioner.

Seems like the investigation saw it that way too. This is a character issue that goes straight to the essence of integrity and judgment...Palin flunked, and in view of her previous record, this comes as no big surprise. It was not the first time she abused her position and if elected, it will not be the last.


And a leader who is actually not intimidated when
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Another outstanding leader of the GOP!

South Carolina GOP activist and former chairman of the state elections commission Rusty DePass has apologized for saying a gorilla that escaped from a zoo was an "ancestor" of Michelle Obama.


The controversy started when FITSNews, a local politics Website, obtained a screengrab of DePass's comment on Facebook.


After an aide to state Attorney General Henry McMaster detailed the escape of the gorilla from Columbia's Riverbanks Zoo, DePass responded with a comment: "I'm sure it's just one of Michelle's ancestors - probably harmless."


DePass later admitted to WIS News that he was referring to Michelle Obama and said, "I am as sorry as I can be if I offended anyone. The comment was clearly in jest."


DePass, who was a county co-chair for Rudy Giuliani's 2008 campaign, supported the push to impeach President Bill Clinton in the late 90s, writing in an op-ed for The State, "Do Republicans have higher moral standards than Democrats?"


Agree also. He is a leader who wants everyone to
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So sad..we need a foreign leader to help our poor
Venezuelan heating oil will be distributed to poor
U.S. communities via the
Venezuelan-owned oil company Citgo.
Credit: Venezuelanalysis.com
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http://Venezuelanalysis.com>

Caracas, Venezuela, November 18, 2005—The
Venezuelan-owned and
U.S.-basedfuel refiner and distributor Citgo will
begin distributing discounted heating oil to poor U.S.
communities next week. Rafael Ramirez, Venezuela's
Minister of Energy and Petroleum, made the
announcement yesterday, saying that the measure is
meant to show Venezuela's commitment to disadvantaged
sectors in the United States.

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez had originally
announced the measure last August, while the U.S.
civil rights activist Jesse Jackson was visiting
Venezuela.

The launch of the discounted heating oil program is
meant to coincide with the Thanksgiving holiday and
will benefit communities in poor communities of
Boston, Massachusetts and of the Bronx, New York.

The first phase of the program will begin in Boston
and will provide 4.5million liters (1.2 million
gallons) of heating oil at discounted rates, which
will mean a savings of approximately $10 million.
According to the Venezuelan government, the discounts
will be achieved by eliminating middle-men and
having Citgo deliver the heating oil directly to the
communities.
Accordingly, the plan does not involve any losses to
Citgo itself.

The logistics of the plan will involve non-profit
community organizations, which will help with the
selection of beneficiaries, distribution, and billing.
Heating oil costs are expected to reach historical
heights this year, which means that many poor
households might have to go without heat, despite
limited state programs to subsidize heating oil for
low-income
families.

Citgo is a wholly owned subsidiary of Venezuela's
state-owned oil company PDVSA and operates five
refineries and licenses 14,000 gas stations throughout
the U.S.


A great leader, they must be joking. sm
He is considered by most to be a dictator. I am sure his 20 supporters on Republican board will not agree with me.
Spoken like a true leader...nm

YOU NAILED it, mostly but bush is NO leader
he is a puppet put in place by the powers that TRULY run the country - and he is merely advancing U.S. imperalist foreign policies.

THE COMMENTS HE MADE WERE DONE ON PURPOSE: He was putting the world on notice of our (US) intents.

When RICE says "Iran is an obstacle to US goals" the translation is this: IRAN IS IN THE WAY OF U.S. HEGEMONY.

If Americans don't wake up soon to what THEY ARE PAYIN FOR WITH THEIR TAX DOLLARS they are going to be paying the price for tolerating a corrupt goverment that will be checked by other major powers (like China), to who?whom? we are the MOST indebted.


In the words of our fealess leader.
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Because he's a leader, not a follower, he has brains,
he is his own man. That is why, no matter how loud you scream and how indignantly you protest, people are simply tuning out on this negative sludge. We want to see McCain develop some backbone, drop the school yead bully routine and talk about some issues. It's not too much to ask, just 3 weeks shy of the election.
Doesn't make him my leader.....
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