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hey republicans, did it hit a nerve?

Posted By: accurate for sure on 2005-07-23
In Reply to: LOL! - American Woman

For the post of failure=bush to have gotten such a response, IMHAO makes me think we have hit a nerve, LMFAO.  If it meant nothing because they thought their leader was so righteous, so smart, so dang right in his policies, they would have dismissed the post about failure=bush..When you protest so loudly, you prove we are right and it irks you..sigh..too bad..


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    Republicans have a lot of nerve calling Obama an elitist! (nm)
    :O
    This teacher has her nerve.
    1. Graduate from high school.
    Good, I agree.


    2. Get a job - keep it, no matter how much money.

    So she would have her students stay at McDonalds the rest of their lives, no matter how much money they make. Don't strive for anything more (ya know, some older people have this mindset).


    3. Never have a baby out of wedlock.

    This makes me a bad person.

    4. Get married and stay married.

    I hope she explained to them not to stay in an abusive relationship just for the sake of staying married.

    Aside from #1, these are definitely not things that you want to have drilled into a 7th graders mind.

    Definitely don't stop at the principal, they back up the teachers in most cases. BTDT.

    Must have hit a nerve. Good on you. nm

    The nerve? GT you are so full of it. sm
    Take a good long look at page one of the Conservative board. Tell me you see no postings of an inflammatory nature by liberals.  If you did, you would be lying.
    It seems I touched a nerve ~

    Healthcare reform is a much debated subject.  We, the great people of the United States, should adopt the attitude that we can set higher benchmarks in the area of healthcare.  Wouldn't that be something to be proud of?  The great difference between the liberal and conservative stance on healthcare is that we liberals view it as a human issue whereas the conservatives view it as a business. Who is right and who is wrong?  Depends on your personal point of view.  I am certainly not trying to change anyone's fundamental way of thinking, I only want to people to start talking about, researching it, talking to your friends, your neighbors, your family, your doctor, your representatives, and make up your own mind about to make a reality.  I am not endorsing any particular or single proposal that is currently on the table and I am certainly not attacking anyone in particular.


    sounds like I hit a nerve with you...
    So if Obama is elected, which it certainly is going his way, will you move to another country?  Oh and funny how you didn't state what you were doing about the baby pile-up situation.  Guess your hands are "clean" and someone else will have to do that.
    What's a matter, did I hit a nerve?
    Maybe you should put a disclaimer on your posts to make it clear that you are just playing and dreaming.
    LOL, STRUCK A NERVE!!!
    I KNEW that was you!!! You may have changed your posting style a bit but, yep, you're that 'I'm NOT INDIAN, I'M EUROPEAN!' person. I won't even say MT, cuz I'm still not convinced you are in fact at MT with your horrid grammar.

    Hehehehehehe, flame me all you want, chica...I KNOW this is you now!!!
    ROFL! Strike a nerve, did I??????

    I'm one of the happiest people you'd ever want to meet. 


    I just have zero tolerance and respect for people who exploit God and Jesus to further their own angry, hateful, lying platforms.


    I was brought up to believe that God and Jesus represent love and peace and truth.  There is nothing about you or any of your posts that reflects those concepts.


    I pray that you get help for the obvious anger, rage and hate and your total and absolute lack of ability to be straightforward and honest.  Instead, you seem to get much pleasure from stomping people into the ground and degrading them.  Poor you.


    Maybe you're someone who used to have a life, but now you can't even afford to put gas in your car any more.  Maybe you're someone who used to be middle class but woke up one morning to find that your class is sinking (socioeconomic class, not your other obvious class deficiencies in how you treat people).  Maybe you can no longer afford to see your psychiatrist and/or take your antipsychotic medication due to the terrible state of America's healthcare system today. Maybe you used to get out of the house on weekends, but instead now you're forced to stay home because you can't afford to put gas in your car any more, and you're angry and need to take it out on someone, so you come here and flame liberals, instead of blaming the president that is running this country into the ground. But then you'd have to admit you were wrong for supporting him, and just like him, you can't admit you were wrong, right?


    Either way, please try to get some help before your anger and rage consumes you any further and you wind up hurting yourself or someone else.  Perhaps I'm making it worse by confusing and angering you with the truth.  Perhaps it's best for us all if I don't respond to your attention-seeking any longer.


    I certainly will pray for you, dear.  Please get help, and have a nice evening. 


    You have a lot of nerve assuming these women
    xoxoxo
    You got a lotta nerve being so self-righteous
    nm
    You people really have nerve - see message
    A very nasty post by a liberal who is intent on having the country socialized. You people really have your nerve saying its always the conservatives that post the negative posts and how hateful we are. You know what...I've read every single post on this board. The two worst are this one and the one that says all pubs should be "rounded up and shipped off". You are the most hate-filled people it just oozes out of your revulsing posts.

    You are such a biggot with you're "if you don't vote for Obama your a racist". attitute. That in itself is racist. Do you think Obama is out there saying vote for me cos I'm black. NO, he has been trying to get this off of race but you and other posters continue to try and make it about race when it isn't. Why? Do you think spreading fear is the answer? What's next, are you going to threaten that if a black man doesn't get in you'll what, you'll riot???

    I am plenty happy with the debate last night. Whether you believe Obama or McCain won is simply your belief. If you think sitting and staring at the camera while lying through your teeth to us is a "winner". If you think not answering the questions posed about your immoral affiliations is a "winner". If you think snearing and snickering at everything your oponent has to say is a "winner". If you think talking in circles while not saying anything is a "winner". Then I'd say you've got an odd perception of winning.

    To post a blatently hate-filled post calling people who don't agree with you "dippy" and in the same breath say we are haters and racists with the "my man won" statement just shows us what ignor@nce is.

    I don't believe either "won". The last debate I believe Obama won, but this debate I do not believe anyone won. They went to tell people what their plans and policies are and what they can do for the country. If you choose to vote for someone who is a slick lawyer and will tell you they "feel your pain", while they are turning the knife in your back. Someone who knows nothing about foreign policies. Someone who associates and accepts money from terrorists, someone who believes in lying and cheating at all costs to win. Someone with the associations that Obama does then you don't live in the same country I believe in and you really need to move to Cuba, North Korea or other socialist run countries and I believe you will be perfectly happy there.

    So for all the Obama lovers you will never see reason. You already had in your minds before the debate even began that Obama had won. Last night my husband and I were extremely happy with the debate. McCain came out and showed him what he's got. Yes, he got mad. It's not called "grouchy", it's called being mad that a slimy little lawyer worm will look at the american people and lie to their faces, except of course when he actually has a one-on-one conversation with someone and tells them he's going to take more money from them and give it to those who have nothing and will do nothing. Your okay with redistributing the wealth? Guess your one of the ones who will benefit from that and that's why you like that socialist plan. But then the coward laywer doesn't even have the decency to tell hundreds of people in a group he's going to redistribute all their wealth, because they need make too much money and they need to give it to Jose, Bob, Maria or Mary - the ones who won't go out and get a job and have some phony illness so they can sit on their you know what's watching Jerry Springer and soaps and keep receiving money for doing nothing. I know a lot of people like that who cheat the system to get something for nothing, then laugh and brag about it to their freinds in the pizza joint I go to. I wonder if that system was to go into effect how many people would quit their jobs so they too could get paid for not doing anything too.

    McCain finally brought up Obama's shady affiliations. I believe he could have pounded him more, especially after Obama blantatly lied again about his affiliations. All I say is I believe John McCain did a fine job last night, and I wouldn't count your chickens before they are hatched. The election has not been held yet, and as hard as your party is trying to cheat and steal votes, I hope that the courts will do the right thing and investigate the fraud and abuse going on by the democratic party.
    Mustard and Sarin Nerve Gas...
    Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq

    Thursday, June 22, 2006







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    WASHINGTON —  The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.


    "We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.


    Reading from a declassified portion of a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, Santorum said: "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."


    US used mustard and nerve gas in Fallujah.
    http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5430

    http://www.greenleft.org.au/2005/619/35160

    If you like, I can document a history of US use of these agents, starting with Viet Nam and moving forward. We supplied this junk to Iraq in the 1980s when we supported Saddam before we didn't.
    I think I hit a nerve because you get caught in errors often
    ...if you want to succeed in this business
    It sounds like the post hit a nerve with you
    Well you evidently didn't read my post. I already said I look forward to hearing the O's plans and him putting into place everything he promised he would. Our country is in "the dog house" for lack of better words and we need solutions to make our country great. That is what we are looking to the O for. So why do you think that is hitting a nerve? Some of us do get over things and look towards the future on how our country can become a great nation again. Not focusing on the past and unimportant issues like whether or not there is a wedding in the family of Sarah and Todd Palin.

    You just don't like that you are called out on the malicious digs that keep spreading about Palin's daughter.

    As for rebutting O's lies. My oh my, never do have any time to talk about what really matters. Just want to trash one side while praising and ignoring what's going on in the other side.

    I see you also did not read my message because I specifically stated in there they still plan to get married next summer. How do you possibly even equate this with being "convenient". Whether she married someone earlier or later has no effect on how people voted. You surely can't believe that! People who were interested in what McCain/Palin's issues/plans and Obama/Biden's issues/plans certainly could care less with whether her daughter was going to get married. If you are so concerned with what she said about her daughter getting married then what about Obama telling everyone during the campaign that his daughters will go to to a public school and now they are not.

    You'll sure bash one side and refuse to discuss issues on the other side.

    As for destroying Palin's life...you surely must have been asleep during the entire campaign. Let's see...there is MSNBC, Olberman, Maddow, Matthews, Katie Curic (sp?), CBS, Gibson, Lorne Michaels, CNN, etc, etc, etc. I would not spew the "unqualified" issue around until you take a good look at the O. Everyone knows it? Maybe in your mind. The last time I looked 59,934,814 people believe she is qualified. Those same people believe the O is not.

    Yeah you have a nice day there too!
    The very nerve!!! The utter gall!!!
    Imagine McC hosting a dinner honoring Obama. NOT!
    Man's IRS rant hits a nerve. sm
    An article on a letter to the Editor of a newspaper making its rounds on the Internet.

    http://www.suntimes.com/business/1467702,w-dear-irs-texas-barnett-taxes030909.article

    Here is Mr. Barnett's letter:

    Taxed to excess
    Dear IRS,
    I am sorry to inform you that I will not be able to pay taxes owed April 15, but all is not lost.
    I have paid these taxes: accounts receivable tax, building permit tax, CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog licence tax, federal income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting licence tax, fishing licence tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, medicare tax, city, school and county property tax (up 33 percent last 4 years), real estate tax, social security tax, road usage tax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational vehicle tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility tax, vehicle licence registration tax, capitol gains tax, lease severance tax, oil and gas assessment tax, Colorado property tax, Texas, Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma and New Mexico sales tax, and many more that I can’t recall but I have run out of space and money.
    When you do not receive my check April 15, just know that it is an honest mistake. Please treat me the same way you treated Congressmen Charles Rangle, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and ex-Congressman Tom Dashelle and, of course, your boss Timothy Geithner. No penalties and no interest.
    P.S. I will make at least a partial payment as soon as I get my stimulus check.
    Ed Barnett
    Wichita Falls


    JTBB. you have the nerve to say OTHERS label?

    There, I labeled you.  You deserve it.


    You just called me a bigot, and you have the nerve to complain


    Chris was so tasteless and had the nerve to say he was trying to have dialouge...nm
    I think the NYT has the right to publish any information that they can verify. If it is classified information that should not have been known to the public, the question is who leaked it?

    I've heard the jist of the story but I need to read the NYT article.
    whooo hooooo guess I touched a nerve there...
    listen, friend. If someone posted something like that about one of Obama's children, I would be on here ragging them the same way! Candidates' children should not be fodder for the public. It is wrong and mean spirited to involve them...be it Obama, McCain, Biden, or any of the rest.

    Obviously no one here did make it up, but several have tried to defend it and one did post it.

    I try to avoid the KOS at all costs.

    I have a life. I also have people I love. I feel terrible for Bristol Palin. What did she do to what daily kos printed? Like Bristol, admit the child is yours.

    Again...if someone printed some rude innuendo about one of Obama's children I would be screaming about that just as loud.


    You have the nerve to talk label Islam. Look at the so-called Christian

    Robertson suggests God smote Sharon


    Evangelist links Israeli leader's stroke to 'dividing God's land'


    (CNN) -- Television evangelist Pat Robertson suggested Thursday that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine retribution for the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, which Robertson opposed.


    He was dividing God's land, and I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the [European Union], the United Nations or the United States of America,' Robertson told viewers of his long-running television show, The 700 Club.


    God says, 'This land belongs to me, and you'd better leave it alone,' he said.


    Robertson's show airs on the ABC Family cable network and claims about 1 million viewers daily.


    Sharon, 77, clung to life in a Jerusalem hospital Thursday after surgery to treat a severe stroke, his doctors said.


    The prime minister, who withdrew Israeli settlers and troops from Gaza and parts of the West Bank last summer over heated objections from his own Likud Party, was breathing with the aid of a ventilator after doctors operated to stop the bleeding in his brain.


    In Washington, President Bush offered praise for Sharon in a speech on Thursday.


    We pray for his recovery, Bush said. He's a good man, a strong man. A man who cared deeply about the security of the Israeli people, and a man who had a vision for peace. May God bless him.


    Daniel Ayalon, Israel's ambassador to the United States, compared Robertson's remarks to the overheated rhetoric of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. (Full story)


    He called the comments outrageous and said they were not something to expect from any of our friends.


    He is a great friend of Israel and a great friend of Prime Minister Sharon himself, so I am very surprised, Ayalon told CNN.


    Robertson, 75, founded the Christian Coalition and in 1988 failed in a bid for the Republican presidential nomination. He last stirred controversy in August, when he called for the assassination of Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez. (Full story)


    Robertson later apologized, but still compared Chavez to Hitler and former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in the process.


    The same month, the Anti-Defamation League criticized Robertson for warning that God would bring judgment against Israel for its withdrawal from Gaza, which it had occupied since the 1967 Mideast war.


    Robertson said Thursday that Sharon was a very likable person, and I am sad to see him in this condition.


    He linked Sharon's health problems to the 1995 assassination of Israeli leader Yitzhak Rabin, who signed the Oslo peace accords that granted limited self-rule to Palestinians.


    It was a terrible thing that happened, but nevertheless, now he's dead, Robertson said.


    Rabin was gunned down by a religious student opposed to the Oslo accords. The killer, Yigal Amir, admitted to the crime and was sentenced to life in prison.


    Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, criticized Robertson's comments Thursday, saying the televangelist has a political agenda for the entire world.


    He seems to think God is ready to take out any world leader who stands in the way of that agenda, Lynn said in a written statement.


    A religious leader should not be making callous political points while a man is struggling for his life, he said. I'm appalled.


    Ralph Neas, president of liberal advocacy group People for the American Way, said it is astonishing that Pat Robertson still wields substantial influence in the Republican Party.


    Once again, Pat Robertson leaves us speechless with his insensitivity and arrogance, Neas said in a written statement.


    According to The Associated Press, Robertson spokeswoman Angell Watts said of people who criticized the comments: What they're basically saying is, 'How dare Pat Robertson quote the Bible?'


    This is what the word of God says, Watts told the AP. This is nothing new to the Christian community.


    What the Republicans Don't Want You to See.

    Stephen Crockett posted this twice (at least) on the Conservative Board, in response to an old quote of his being used out of context and distorted by the usual suspects there.  Each time he posted it, it was deleted from the board.  It's certainly easy to understand why they don't want anyone to see this. 


    Please read quickly.  They think they should control our board, as well as their own, so it probably won't last very long here, either.


    African-American Voters Scrubbed by Secret GOP Hit List


    Published by Greg Palast June 16th, 2006 in Articles
    Massacre of the Buffalo Soldiers
    by Greg Palast
    As reported for Democracy Now!


    Palast, who first reported this story for BBC Television Newsnight (UK) and
    Democracy Now! (USA), is author of the New York Times bestseller, Armed
    Madhouse.


    The Republican National Committee has a special offer for African-American soldiers: Go to Baghdad, lose your vote.


    A confidential campaign directed by GOP party chiefs in October 2004 sought to challenge the ballots of tens of thousands of voters in the last presidential election, virtually all of them cast by residents of Black-majority
    precincts.  Files from the secret vote-blocking campaign were obtained by BBC Television Newsnight, London. They were attached to emails accidentally sent by
    Republican operatives to a non-party website.


    One group of voters wrongly identified by the Republicans as registering to vote from false addresses: servicemen and women sent overseas.


    *******
    For Greg Palast’’s discussion with broadcaster Amy Goodman on the Black soldier purge of 2004, go to
    http://gregpalast.com/armedmadhouse/palastDN6-14-06.mp3


    *******


    Here’’s how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, Do not forward, to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as undeliverable.


    The lists of soldiers of undeliverable letters were transmitted from state headquarters, in this case Florida, to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters’’ registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballots being counted.


    One target list was comprised exclusively of voters registered at the Jacksonville, Florida, Naval Air Station. Jacksonville is third largest naval installation in the US, best known as home of the Blue Angels fighting squandron.


    [See this scrub sheet at http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=160156893&context=set-72157594155273706&size=o


    Our team contacted the homes of several on the caging list, such as Randall Prausa, a serviceman, whose wife said he had been ordered overseas.


    A soldier returning home in time to vote in November 2004 could also be challenged on the basis of the returned envelope. Soldiers challenged would be
    required to vote by provisional ballot.


    Over one million provisional ballots cast in the 2004 race were never counted; over half a million absentee ballots were also rejected. The extraordinary rise in the number of rejected ballots was the result of the widespread
    multi-state voter challenge campaign by the Republican Party. The operation, of which the purge of Black soldiers was a small part, was the first mass challenge to voting America had seen in two decades.


    The BBC obtained several dozen confidential emails sent by the Republican’’s national Research Director and Deputy Communications chief, Tim Griffin to GOP
    Florida campaign chairman Brett Doster and other party leaders. Attached were spreadsheets marked, Caging.xls. Each of these contained several hundred
    to a few thousand voters and their addresses.


    A check of the demographics of the addresses on the caging lists, as the GOP leaders called them indicated that most were in African-American majority zip codes.


    Ion Sanco, the non-partisan elections supervisor of Leon County (Tallahassee) when shown the lists by this reporter said: The only thing I can think of - African American voters listed like this - these might be individuals that
    will be challenged if they attempted to vote on Election Day.


    These GOP caging lists were obtained by the same BBC team that first exposed the wrongful purge of African-American felon voters in 2000 by then-Secretary of State Katherine Harris. Eliminating the voting rights of those voters —— 94,000 were targeted —— likely caused Al Gore’’s defeat in that race.


    The Republican National Committee in Washington refused our several requests to respond to the BBC discovery. However, in Tallahassee, the Florida Bush
    campaign’’s spokespeople offered several explanations for the list.


    Joseph Agostini, speaking for the GOP, suggested the lists were of potential donors to the Bush campaign. Oddly, the supposed donor list included residents of the Sulzbacher Center a shelter for homeless families.


    Another spokesperson for the Bush campaign, Mindy Tucker Fletcher, ultimately changed the official response, acknowledging that these were voters, we mailed to, where the letter came back - bad addresses.


    The party has refused to say why it would mark soldiers as having bad addresses subject to challenge when they had been assigned abroad.


    The apparent challenge campaign was not inexpensive. The GOP mailed the letters first class, at a total cost likely exceeding millions of dollars, so that the addresses would be returned to cage workers.


    This is not a challenge list, insisted the Republican spokesmistress. However, she modified that assertion by adding, That’’s not what it’’s set up to be.


    Setting up such a challenge list would be a crime under federal law. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 outlaws mass challenges of voters where race is a factor in choosing the targeted group.


    While the party insisted the lists were not created for the purpose to challenge Black voters, the GOP ultimately offered no other explanation for the mailings. However, Tucker Fletcher asserted Republicans could still employ the list to deny ballots to those they considered suspect voters. When asked if Republicans would use the list to block voters, Tucker Fletcher replied, Where it’’s stated in the law, yeah.


    It is not possible at this time to determine how many on the potential blacklist were ultimately challenged and lost their vote. Soldiers sending in their ballot from abroad would not know their vote was lost because of a
    challenge.


    __________________________________


    For the full story of caging lists and voter purges of 2004, plus the documents, read Greg Palast’’s New York Times bestseller, ARMED MADHOUSE: Who’’s Afraid of Osama Wolf?, Armed Madhouse: Who’’s Afraid of Osama Wolf?, China Floats Bush Sinks, the Scheme to Steal ‘‘08, No Child’’s Behind Left and other
    Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War.


    http://www.gregpalast.com/massacre-of-the-buffalo-soldiers


    what about republicans?
    As John Dean recently said I'm still a Goldwater conservative. Today, that places me left of center
    What is says is that I and many others, Republicans,
    Independents, Progressives, Green Party are sick of having these insane **wars that cannot be won** wars that have no **definition or reason** foisted upon us. You think that winning, whatever that is, is worth whatever it takes including more American and Iraqi lives. We did not leave Viet Nam because of the left and we sure as heck won't be leaving Iraq because of the left. The **American people** the majority (even on Fox news) are dissatisfied with Iraq, the lies and the incompetence. The same was true for Viet Nam. They would take the hill, then lose the hill, then take the hill, then lose the hill, never knowing what having the hill was all about but a whole slew of people would be dead at the end of it. Incompetence, arrogance and ignorance. That is what got us into both these wars. Some times you just have to suck it up and move on, cut your losses and get out. We, the liberals, did not start this nor is it our fault that it will end the way it will and it will end and it won't be pretty.  We do not belong there. We cannot win anything. There are those who will hold on till the bitter end and even then will refuse to give up. Years after Viet Nam you guys are still fighting that war, er, conflict.  When the state I grew up in, Indiana, is voting Democratic, you know the gig is up. Although Hoosiers vote for Democrats on a local basis, I cannot remember a time the state did not send all of its electoral votes to the Republican party and Indiana is usually the first state to be called for the Republican side, but not today. As much as you would like to malign the left and blame us if we do leave Iraq before you think it is time to, for the first time in a long time, you are in the minority. Middle class middle America, Indiana, is voting Democratic. That is huge. Many of them on exit polls cited the corruption in Congress as a second reason they were not voting Republican.
    But the same can be said for many republicans.
    To decide you will never vote democrat again based on the actions and words of a few radical examples on an internet message board for medical transcriptionists is hardly objective. I can think of extreme examples of republicans, too, but I do not judge all republicans based on those examples. There are plenty of republicans who support Bush just because he's republican. No difference.
    Republicans
    amen sister!
    Sorry. IMO it is the republicans that are...sm
    constantly comparing Palin to Obama and we wish you would stop, and so does he and has said so several times. I am willing to compare Obama to McCain and Palin to Biden, no problem. You call the dems extremists, look in the mirror.
    what does that have to do with republicans? nm
    nm
    Well...what the Republicans DID NOT...
    do for me was cripple the economy. THANK YOU, REPUBLICANS. What they did not do was raise my taxes. THANK YOU, REPUBLICANS. They are right now trying to keep Democrats from a huge wasteful expansion of welfare programs when we are in grave economic straits getting worse by the day...THANK YOU REPUBLICANS. And just for the record...I am a registered Independent.

    Kool-aid....good grief. If it comes out of the Great O's mouth people just buy it, hook line and sinker. He doesn't have to explain anything. Hey, we are going to spend a trillion more dollars and help all those poor people, especially the ones who don't even PAY taxes. Bless their hearts. And WHO is paying for this...oh well, that would be you and me. What happened to the middle class tax cuts? Oh well, we can't do that...we are in a recession. But let's spend a trillion on even more programs. Why not??

    Do you really not get ANY of that? Just asking.
    Because the REPUBLICANS
    Obama has tried to engage the Republicans, but as you can see by this board, there is no way they will ever cooperate. No matter what Obama does or says will never be good enough for them.

    Just a microcosm of the real world. Republicans need to learn to get along and stop trying to set themselves up for office in 2012. Their posturing is hurting the American people.
    Many Republicans were against the ...
    bailouts. I sure was and am. Keep in mind that many Americans ARE Republicans. It is certainly not the goal of Republicans to see the country fail. My family and many other families are military families that are more than willing to fight for this country. Nobody laughs about this mess, guaranteed.
    I think the republicans have been more ga-ga over...
    putting more earmarks in bills coming across Congress. Did you see that over 40% of the earmarks in this omnibus bill are from republicans? I was so excited after almost every one of them voted no on the other bill because of earmarks, but I guess I shouldn't have expected that to last long. These are politicians we're talking about - one side is just as bad as the other.
    The Republicans actually blew it, thank you.
    That sordid little event in Clinton's office never had to become public in the way that it did. It became public because the Republicans desperately, avariciously WANTED it to become public. So no crocodile tears now about how Clinton spoiled everything when that is exactly what you wanted to happen. If the private, cheating, sordid lives of all politicians were to PURPOSEFULLY AND DELIBERATELY be made public - especially including those who most adamantly prosecuted Clinton - I think all the tearful nellies who think our leaders were all fine upstanding moral guardians before Clinton came along would simply have their naive little heads explode from the shock.
    not all republicans are liars
    No I dont think all republicans are liars.  I think many twist the truth to try to justify their opinion and beliefs instead of looking at the cold hard facts.  I judge each person individually, however, when someone does lie consistently or believes in a fantasy world, like Bush does..telling us every day Iraq is getting better when we can clearly see that it isnt..when people manipulate the science and change the figures or the intelligence data for their own agenda and gain, then I judge those people harshly and never believe them again.  Bush is like the little boy who cried wolf.  He has lied so darn much, I dont believe a word he says any more and I dont trust him at all.
    Republicans cared, that's who. sm
    And this *Christian* pornstar is confused. Bush needs to read her some scripture over dinner. You didn't see Clinton running around professing Christianity to any one who would listen either.
    I don't think US preempting another war will bid well for republicans..sm
    Or anyone else who supports them. Thus the attempt at 6-party talks, etc with Iran. Though you you musn't rule anything out with this bunch.

    BTW, I stopped getting in a tizzy over the terror alerts long time ago. I know it's better safe than sorry, but when there's a terror alert every time you turn on the TV you might as well just live your life.
    Democrats vs Republicans...
    I agree that problems occur on both sides of the aisle...obviously. What I find troubling, and I am being serious here, is that Democrats seem much less likely to own up to it when they do something wrong, even when caught, and the entire party seems to rally around them and somehow want to twist the wrong into a right or rationalize the wrong (he only lied about sex for example. He committed felony perjury, doesn't matter what the lie was about. If it was no big deal, why didn't he just tell the truth? I guess that depends on what the meaning of truth is?). Republicans generally fall on the sword when caught. There just seems to be something skewed about the Democratic party as a whole and their vision of what is wrong or right and it seems to be directly correlated to whether one of their party is guilty or the other party is guilty. This is just an observation. I am not a registered Republican nor Democrat. I am conservative, I am registered Independent but vote for whoever most closely follows my belief system, though they as a rule don't do as they say...and I mean ALL politicians. I just keep hoping for an honest one. Bush did what he said he would do for a long time, but I see him waffling now, and I am not sure that is a good thing. As I look at the two major parties in this country, it just seems to me that on the Democratic side they are more likely to support each other and try to spin wrongdoing even when caught at it, rarely if ever admitting to wrongdoing. I do not see that so much on the Republican side. I suppose now I should go back to the conservative side and let the process continue. I thought the boards were about opinion and discussion and debate. How can you expect to change any minds if you only talk to the like-minded? Thanks for your time, Lurker. I do enjoy talking to you.
    I see it with Democrats and Republicans. sm
    Where are all the progressives and antiwar people?
    Republicans, Help me to understand
    This is not a joke, and not meant to provoke but...

    1- Do you think Bush is a good president?

    2- Do you like his policies?

    3- Would you like 4 more years of that kind of leadership?


    Why?

    Democrats vs Republicans

    1.  My research on the black liberation movement of which Obama's church is a part tells me all I need to know about whether or not I want to see him in office.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology


    2.  If McCain is elected I believe we will face a great depression which will make the depression of the 30s look like a Sunday School picnic.  People already losing homes, jobs, exploding deficit (and the piper will be paid sooner or later), cost-of-living getting so people can hardly afford to live.  McCain's judgement is questionable in his choice of a  running mate.  Totally reckless to name someone he has only met once but then there's oil in Alaska.


    I will not support or vote for either of them as were doomed either way.


    Were there Republicans in Denver?

    Not only did Joe Lieberman speak, there were signs "Democrats for McCain," and they didn't get beaten or threatened, like the Michelle Malkins out there.


    For all the Bush-bashing (I give no one a free pass), when did he openly get credit for Colin Powell, Condi Rice, etc.? 


    Funny thing about facts that way.  Pesky little things, aren't they?


    The Republicans are totally AGAINST
    Just wait. If they get in office another 4 years, there are freedoms we have today that could disappear tomorrow.
    Democrats vs Republicans
    Just dropped in to see if either the Dems or Pubs on this board have given an inch.  They haven't.  Boring and useless.  I'm betting McCain will win so we'll never know about big, bad Obama for sure.  I'll drop back in after a few years of McCain to see how well y'all like him then. Like about now I'm really wondering if John Kerry wouldn't have been an improvement over George Bush.  I understand ole Georgie has an all time low approval rating.  Must be a bunch of Republicans who aren't as pleased with him as they thought they would be.
    Sometimes I think the republicans are dems in slo-mo....sm
    and almost as bad. They can't talk, can't stand up for themselves. Let themselves be run over.

    I'm disgusted with everybody on capitol hill.

    None of them understand the economy anyway. None of them.



    The republicans are listening to their ...
    constituents who do not want the bailout. They reported on TV this morning their fax machines and phones ringing off the wall. They don't like the bill as it stands. The fact remains, the Democrats had the votes to pass it had the 69 who voted nay had voted yay. They didn't do it because they don't want to be holding the whole bag if it goes south. So to whine about the Republicans who listened to their constituents and not wanting to stick their necks out caused it to fail...wrong.

    But it is totally political...the Dems do not want to vote in majority with "Bush/Paulson" plan...because if it failed...you know the drill.

    Sigh.
    I think the Republicans should go home...
    and let the Democrats, who have the majority anyway, put their money where their mouth is and pass it. Put their country first instead of their political futures. Take a chance. They have it in their power to pass it. The Republicans can't. They don't have enough votes, even if they wanted to.
    No, most of the Republicans voted against it...
    because their constituency were 99 to 1 against it. The senators added the extra stuff hoping to entice some of those Republicans to vote yes instead of no. Plus to woo the 95 democrats who voted against it.

    It is silly on its face for the Democrats to whine so much...if they would stop worrying about voting in the majority with George Bush, they could pass the thing themselves. They have the majority. But they want it to be "bipartisan" so if it does not work, they don't have to live out their congressional terms with "they voted with George Bush and crashed the economy" over their heads.

    Politics first, constituents second. And so it goes.
    Your cannot even image what the republicans said about...sm
    JFK when he was running for president, the first Catholic, junior senator, Harvard graduate, wealthy influential family. Oh my goodness. It was really ugly when he was running against tricky Richard. We all know what happened with that. Americans are not fools. Obama will win.
    republicans have been doing it for years
    got it down to an art form.