i call stupid on this whole thread.
Posted By: mk on 2009-02-19
In Reply to: Calculate your family's costs for the bailouts. sm - LVMT
Does no one understand that this big stimulus plan comes with massive *tax cuts*? Two hundred eighty-eight billion dollars worth of them? (That's $288,000,000,000)
Follow my logic here: The plan cuts your taxes. So it's just not right to take the cost of the bill, divvy up amongst all the taxpayers, and say, aha, here's how much it raised my taxes--the overwhelming burden of the cost is because it's taking the burden off the taxpayer.
Now, we can debate whether this is the right way to go (it isn't--again, tax cuts aren't terribly effective). But to portray a tax cut as a tax increase is just...well, did I use the word "stupid" too many times already?
(Please note I'm not calling *you* stupid, just the website calculator and the trillions of well-paid pundits and congresspeople who insist that a tax cut is a tax increase, to attempt to resuscitate their dying agenda.)
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This whole thread is stupid!
MT did not say she was going back to Iraq...she was answering a poll!!!! Where's the lie?
LOL, and you call us hateful! You got stupid, moron and the list goes on in there. nm
I were you I would not call the present US president 'naive and stupid.' nm
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Call me what you want, just don't call me late for dinner. LOL....
GP, I like your sense of humor.
You call it hysteria, some call it concern for the
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Then call it what it is...or call for conservation...
but don't make up a myth to try to gain control. That is what Gore is after...what all the global warming hoohah is after. They have an agenda...pure and simple. And the base fact is that a very low percentage of the greenhouse gas effect is from cars. Every time you breathe out, you contribute. Are we all going to stop breathing? Are cows going to stop belching? I have no problem with ethanol...I have used it. My husband is from Iowa...I would love it if we started using ethanol more extensively. But in previous years, Democrats (Hillary being a primary one) opposed the use of ethanol. I guess if I believed any of those people out there hawking global warming actually believed what they were saying it would be different...but I don't. The science is not there. As I said...if the real interest is conservation with the side benefit of less CO2...fine. Just say so. But as the article pointed out...if it is as bad as they say it is, you can't stop it anyway. It just does not make good sense to me.
Fine. Call if whatever you want to call it....
I will call it as I see it. I look at a totality of things. He has embraced black liberation theology which is racist and has Marxist tones for 20 years. There is no way the man went to that church for 20 years and did not know their doctrine. But, if you choose to believe that, again, fine. I do not. I believe he knows that theology backward and forward and believes it to his core. You don't have to. That is the wonderful thing about America. We can agree or disagree. On this we disagree.
Yes, I am feeling a pinch. But I don't think the government should take money from you and give it to me. I don't think they should take money from any private business and give it to me. If you think that is fair, fine. I don't. That is how socialism/Marxism takes hold. Historically it ends the same way. I don't want that for America. Perhaps you do...you want the pinch eased for you and if that means taking money from someone else that they earned, and giving it to you, who did not earn it, to you it is all good. To me it isn't.
He never has said who the $1000 checks are going to. I am thinking not every person in the whole US of A...so not only does he get to choose who he takes the money from, he gets to choose who to give it to. That would be another interesting piece of the puzzle. If he confirms to the Marxist view, it would be issuing checks to the "poor." And he gets to define who that is. You may be okay with that...me, not so much.
And by the way...have you ever researched an oil company profit margin? It is not as huge as Obama would like you to believe. But, again, he is counting on no one researching what he says. They hear free money and that's all they want to hear. Also, do you think oil companies don't employ people? You think it is one CEO at a desk in an office raking in billions? You don't think there are rank and file regular folks who work for oil companies? Whose jobs might be impacted by you and others wanting to take money away from their employers and doling it out to people who have not earned it? You think there is a chance they might have a problem with that?
I call, fax, and call again and I do campaign....
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And, that has what exactly to do with this thread?? SM
BTW it's Western KY University. There is no Southern KY University.
The thread was that someone said he never...
talked about religion. I pointed out that he DOES.
actually this thread is about...
whether the members of military support the effort or not. you turned into something about info available when you claimed that you have more info and a more clear picture than they do and that they are "just following orders" And you are the one who didn't agree with the sentiment of the original post and started the "i don't like people who disagree with me," not dnh, when you started saying you had a clearer picture than they. You are simply out to argue and stir the pot. Not worth the effort to debate with you.
again, this is stupid
whatever, I concede... like it's major issue. I mean for cryin' out loud. Where exactly did MT say she was going back for the last month or so she hasn't posted here. I haven't noticed whether or not she posted a timetable WHEN she would be going back. This whole stupid idiotic argument was because someone assumed she hadn't been posting because she went back to Iraq. When she said that she hadn't you all called her a liar. THERE'S the spin...
They think WE are stupid. I believe he knows exactly what he is doing.
American people, namely his followers, will not question him, especially since he's obviously an upstanding God-fearing man. They'll take his word for it.
Are you really that stupid? TI
Can you put nothing in perspective? Without a doubt, in recent weeks, this is the most ignorant of remarks I have heard.
How stupid?
Well, obviously there are many stupid Americans because they believe this man is the answer to their prayers. They actually believe he will get them AFFORDABLE healthcare, he says the same healthcare HE has. How in the heck does he think he is going to get insurance companies to give anyone in this country the same insurance he has and they be able to afford it.
But, you see, there are those who actually think he can. And now that he is back peddling on his economic plan, which all O lovers, will conveniently ignore, he will screw you over even more.
That was stupid.
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Well you are too stupid if you believe what you
You are regurgitating information you have heard but you don't even know what you just said, except it sounds good to you. Lets blame the rich....yea, that's it. THe rich who employ you and pay most of the taxes in this country, yea, it must be their fault. Your idea of rich is very clouded anyway, so unless you stop listening to whiners and wise up to how your own community functions in the first place, you will be the addition to this problem.
Get an economics book and read it. I dare say you know nothing about econ101 anyway, so that would explain that remark.
I am not stupid
I know that you cant believe everything that you read. That goes both ways. I am basing my opinion on his behavior, or lack thereof. If you are a Christian, you have to answer to God first. If he believed that, he would not be allowing this kind of behavior. I am not just basing this off of the internet. I am also basing it on how people where I live are talking about him. How they feel about him. It is just strange. Also, I have prayed about this quite a bit. That is my final source.
actually stupid is not seeing
what happened after the question was asked regardless of who asked it. stupid is focusing on the questioner and not the answer and stupid is not being frightened by what happened to the man after asking the question, which was his right
It's so stupid though
So what, does he ask people who they are voting for before they go in, and then what. I don't understand what the fool is there for except to act like a fool
Why should they do that??? This would be really stupid nm
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How stupid do you think I am?
You're going to spout off some ancient edict that lasted for how long again? Until it was revoked? You insult my intelligence along with many black people who would be outraged by your audacity.
You mean he's not stupid enough to take the
Care to comment on that nuclear Israel thingy?
I'm stupid....I get it.
Yes...staying informed makes me stupid....thanks for clearing that up. No wonder we have Obama in the White House with so many uninformed morons out there crying out "In Obama We Trust." Please excuse me if I don't feel like just sitting back and not knowing what are government is doing or planning on doing. Please excuse me while I go vomit!
but I do appreciate that so many think I am either stupid...
or a liar.
Perhaps they are stupid then...
you don't buy things you can't afford; those with modest intelligence know that. They are still losers in my book, wanting a handout when they bit off more than they could chew. While the banks did make the loans, homeowners need to take responsibility for their mistakes. What a country of whiners we have; as usual, the responsible people will take care of those who don't want to do it for themselves. Again, shelter is a right, owning a home a privilege.
And no actually, if you follow the thread SM
I was posting to American Woman.
I read this whole thread here. sm
MT was very careful to say it was not word for word. Gosh, all the calling people liars. It's terrible. She said it wasn't word for word more than once. How about recalled incorrectly? Liar is a horrible word and I have been called it so many times on these boards for no good reason. Anyway, as I said, I am mixed race and I am not offended. That's all I am going to say because there is no use posting here. Flame away gt. Call me a liar yet again. I really don't care and as Republican said, you don't scare me. I think you are sad and pathetic and I think your life must be very empty to be as hate filled as you are.
The subject in this thread is a cat.
How did we get to this? And is it really necessary to call names? I mean, we are civilized people after all. It's rather hard to understand why you attack someone even when they are AGREEING with you. I try to be respectful here, but it's very hard to communicate when the subject is changed constantly in a thread. Perhaps an I hate Bush and all conservative thread would be best started and all posts to that effect might go there. Nothing is being furthered here except what seems to be a very bad grudge. In a public forum. Really not cool.
Your 1st post in this thread had NOTHING to do
pardon me for being a bit puzzled about why you brought it up.
Dead thread.
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The only bash under this thread is
Just can't resist slamming a different perspective, can you? Not even one time is this possible.
awww, don't want to go there so this thread
has ended? "Case closed" I guess.
Have you not read this thread?
Simply stating Christian beliefs. This country, although based on religious freedoms, was founded by Christians. In God We Trust ring a bell?
I'm sorry, it's not me. Wrong thread?
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let this thread die. The stupidity
of it speaks louder than any response trying to explain things because they don't "understand" They want to keep the subject off the issues.
Sorry, got tripped up in the thread... the ol'
Evidently you are not following your own thread
The rational people are the Obama folks who will not engage in the foolishness of the conspiracy theory to nowhere and the brick wall...well, that would be you, "Everyone should be interested!"
I might have missed that thread but I...
didn't miss the thread of negativity in your posts.
If you are not able to follow my thread,
at least try to follow your own. I was replying to your right-from-wrong post where, in an attempt to avoid the points I had made about Israel, you stated I had listed all of Palestinian atrocities. My reply followed consecutive order.
The first item on the list you were trying to attribute to them began with occupation. Since you made the blanket, all-encompassing statement that I had just listed ALL of their atrocities, I began my reply with occupation and followed point-by-point with responses to the other listed items. You would probably have a vague understanding of that if you actually engaged in debating substance rather than simple vollies of empty, vacuous put-downs and denials.
He sure does have a relevance to this thread
Because your comment was same sex people can't ever have sexual intercourse. The relevance is that Bill Clinton came out on national TV and told the world "I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman...Ms. Lewinski?" Both are bold face lies.
Two woman are perfectly capable of having a sexual relationship as are two men. And that is why we have sperm donors and other means to allow woman the capability of having a child without having sex with a man. Maybe if you got out of the "puritan" mind set you might just even have a little fun. But somehow I doubt that. Reminds me of my aunt telling me that sex is only for pro-creation. Once you don't want to have kids anymore then you shouldn't be having sex anymore. Is this you aunty???????
Maybe you could begin in another thread.
Day of Prayer and the absolute vicious lies about Obama's faith.
Just because you believe he lied about other things does not automatically make him a Muslim.
Patty, just get off this particular thread.
It is very obvious that you are a minority here and you're just trying to stir the pot, as you always do. Nobody wants to hear your bigoted idiotic statements about something you know nothing about, so just keep handling your snakes and leave everybody else's sex life alone. It is none of your business!!
People not stupid...
...it's likely the American people did not elect Bush for either of his terms. Problem is, it doesn't matter anymore so long as Republicans continue to applaud the use of corporate-owned voting machines that leave no verifiable paper trail. What can we do? Bush supporters own the machines. Bush supporters tabulated the votes. We don't have any say anymore about who sits in the White House - when it looked like we were using our voice of reason in 2000 the SCOTUS yanked the vote right out of our hands and appointed the president, overriding the fair vote count and giving us all the finger. Again, Bush supporters. Now they have the machines to re-define our votes a little more smoothly, but it's all the same criminal intention.
The American people are actually pretty smart - that's why those who hate them have to resort to such meticulous and intricate planning to steal their voice.
Of course, there are always some who are easily led, but they are far from the majority they like to claim they are. They can't even conceive of the difference between a paper ballot and a electronic vote - they have no idea which is better or why it's better, much less any notion of how to defend a Republic or their Constitution, or the integrity to act in a way that's best for their country rather than what's feely-good and rah-rah for their own selfish selves. Guess we have to put up with them, but what are we going to do about the vote thieves they enable?
Are you honestly that stupid
that you can't tell the difference between someone hoping someone burns in hell AFTER they die (having had nothing to do with their death) and openly and publicly encouraging America to ASSASSINATE the leader of a country?
Are you really that much of a moron, and as Gadfly said, why in the world do you WANT to openly reveal that to others? Some of you people need some SERIOUS professional help.
Oh, please, Drudge is as stupid
Fact Check: Clinton/Carter Executive Orders Did Not Authorize Warrantless Searches of Americans
The top of the Drudge Report claims “CLINTON EXECUTIVE ORDER: SECRET SEARCH ON AMERICANS WITHOUT COURT ORDER…” It’s not true. Here’s the breakdown –
What Drudge says:
Clinton, February 9, 1995: “The Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order”
What Clinton actually signed:
Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) [50 U.S.C. 1822(a)] of the [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance] Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section.
That section requires the Attorney General to certify is the search will not involve “the premises, information, material, or property of a United States person.” That means U.S. citizens or anyone inside of the United States.
The entire controversy about Bush’s program is that, for the first time ever, allows warrantless surveillance of U.S. citizens and other people inside of the United States. Clinton’s 1995 executive order did not authorize that.
Drudge pulls the same trick with Carter.
What Drudge says:
Jimmy Carter Signed Executive Order on May 23, 1979: “Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order.”
What Carter’s executive order actually says:
1-101. Pursuant to Section 102(a)(1) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802(a)), the Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order, but only if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that Section.
What the Attorney General has to certify under that section is that the surveillance will not contain “the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party.” So again, no U.S. persons are involved.
Another stupid move.
I see Bush has offered aid to the earthquake victims in Iran. He did this the morning after the quake. He really did not know there would be an earthquake in Iran, nor did anyone else, yet less than 24 hours after the quake he is offering aid to a country whose mouthpiece would like to blow us all to smithereens. I find it curious that it took Bush 3 or 4 days to realct to Katrina and we all knew that storm was coming for days and days and days. Although I sympathize with any victims of disasters, would it not benefit Bush and his party to aid our own country first. New Orleans is still a mess. They are still finding dead bodies, and he sends aid to, of all places, Iran. Someone explain this to me. I really don't get this.
thanks for calling me stupid ...
who knows? If you are half as smart as you think apparently think you are, yes indeedy -- maybe you could do it ... if you had become governor of a State!
I am tired of the slick, coached peoplel who simply regurgitate what the punduits tell them too. At least, for now, she is a real person ....
I can see why you like Obama -you have the same superiority attitude with a condescending nature ... LOL
that said, I really do not like him BUT I may vote for him - I truly haven't made up my mind yet.
LOL ....
No. You are too stupid to realize when you are
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