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may I refresh your memory... respectfully...

Posted By: ozzz on 2008-11-04
In Reply to: I realize that a victory for Obama........sm - m

George Bush had the same absence of checks and balances in his favor.

Didn't really work for us, right? Let's see how it works swingin' this way.


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I don't post much anymore.  There is not much outrage left in me these days.  Things just go from bad to worse.  There was a time I could remember and reiterate all the shenanigans in DC, from just juvenile personal behavior to outright lawbreaking but there is just so much happening so often that I can't remember anymore. One scandal after another after another after another.  If ever a government was broken, it is this one.  None of these candidates can do a thing about it and I believe that is because of American complacency. We have brought this on ourselves.Oh so many people are worried about Barak and his lack of experience.  For the last 2 elections we have placed and replaced in office a man with no experience whatsoever, one who with all his advantages had never even been out of the country but nobody cared, complancency. Less than 50% of us vote. Impeachments could be issued left and right but none of us seem to care enough about what is going on to pursue that.  This administration has been conservatism on mega steroids.  Not only do they believe in less goverment, I think they believe in NO government at all.  I really do.  They just do what they do, everybody walks, incompetency abounds, I can't even begin to address the Middle East lunacy, New Orleans, leaks, leaks, leaks, lies, lies, lies, paranoia runs deep in the heartland, etc.  Politics are about the most inconsequential, unimportant, ridiculous bits of fluff to ever fill the airways these past few weeks. The only thing I care about this election is "Can you fix it?, any of it?"  I don't care if you are a Hindu, a Jain, a Lutheran, a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness or nothing.  I don't care how many times you have been married or if you are gay, transgendered, have children in prison or on drugs or both. I don't care what your position is on same-sex marriage or abortion.  Can you fix this broken government. Can you get us out of the middle east. Can you get us health care. Can you educate our kids. Can you explain to those opposed to immigration in terms that they understand that the problem lies with American greed, our broken government and the fact we all seem to need to have someone to hate...this time its the Mexicans and no matter what anyone says, when illegal alien, immigrant, whatever word is used, translation is Mexican. If all the immigrants were blond-haired, blue-eyed Swedes I don't think there would be much of a "crisis."  The immigrants didn't take over the auto industry or the clothing industry or any of the manufacturing industries. We gave them to China. Having lived 20+ years in Florida with immigrant workers I don't know when it was they became a "crisis" but I suspect it was when someone in DC needed diversion from a truly criminal act and hating is so easy. None of us can really save this country. Creator can but, IMHO, until we start having the courage to behave with honor and dignity towards our fellow man and the creation that Creator has loaned us to live upon, I think we are doomed.
Short memory span?

Is there a reason why you repeat yourself over and over and over and over and over and over again?  Rehashing the same ridiculous complaints over and over and over and over and over and over again? 


Why don't you post the butt in a chair thing a few more times?  You guys have called us more or less drugged out hippies with references to what we must be smoking, what we must have been doing in the 60s and our hookahs.  You ain't exactly perfect.  Now if I post this paragraph about ten more times you might get the idea, right?


More like outdated and slanted memory!
Your sources are 4 and close to 5 years old and the primary sources of the first article are Foxnews.com and another source that has the catchy address of reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info.  So you're saying that the reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info website is more accurate than the Pentagon and the 9/11 commission?  As I always say, I want to read stuff that's not from far-far left or right wing sources.  I also want it to be a little more timely.
Well, Obama has selective memory when it comes
nm
Memory does not serve you correctly.
began long before the dems to control of Congress. Do some research before you spout your partisan blather. That is exactly what is wrong with this country and this board. You are too busy placing blame, whether deserved or not, to realize that you do not know the truth. You believe spin, not facts.

Look up Glass-Steagall, Gram-Leach-Blilley, toxic mortagages, and packaged derivatives if you really want to know how this began. If not, well continue to blather.

Don't bother to respond. I am not bothering to come back here. I thought this board would be different because it is MTs who use their brains for a living, but I guess MTs can be trolls too, as proven by a majority of the posts here. Luckily, I did find a board where, even though they disagree, they do so with logic, intelligence, and reason.

Good luck to you all. You are going to need it.

respectfully
let's keep away from the "I heard" stuff. There is enough misinformation already without adding to it with stuff that can't be verified. Let's stick to the facts.
Selective memory must be nice. The point is sm
They were on their own board.  THAT IS THE POINT.  Who cares what you think?
His memory is no more 'selective' than the current Pres..
and his cronies...
you brought back a dear memory for me

My late Mother, who was Pres. of the County RNC (with 6 kids, mind you), used to tell us kids, "you just wait."  Boy, was she ever right.  I was going to fund-raisers for Goldwater in grade school, so that gives you an idea how old I am (51).


Anyway, Mother had these stickers s she'd put on letters saying "America is a Republic, not a Democracy." 


The bulk of the the


You have a selective memory...not surprising for a liberal.

What, may I respectfully ask, does this prove?
Lebanon and Israel have a long and colourful history of conflict.  I am not quite sure what this letter is meant to prove.  Hezbollah has used Lebanese residential areas to set up their missles and attack bases. Israel retaliates for the abduction of their people.  But first, they drop leaflets, warning civilians to leave.  Really, quite a first for this sort of thing.  I'm very sorry, but I, for one, am bloody tired of Israel being made the aggressor here.  Hamas and Hezbollah have pounded them nearly to oblivion and all you can worry about is a letter from the Lebanese?!  I am astounded. 
Respectfully....I don't agree...
A radical socialist (Obama) and a majority democratic congress who leans socialist are a mixture that does not bode well for the country. Add to that money men behind him who are radical socialists...now there is change I am not the least bit interested in. Not getting worked up...but definitely concerned.
I would respectfully ask for the same consideration.
nm
I respectfully disagree s/m
and I say respectfully because apparently you are a sister TTer (I'm an ex TTer).  I think McCain will win by hook or crook.  Anyway, the rabid Republicans outnumber the rabid Democrats on the forums in which I participate so if I'm correct, McCain won't have to restort to "crook."
Respectfully to Kaydie

I think you  have already decided for whom you are going to vote.  Otherwise why keep posting internet gossip about Obama.  I've already posted my objections to him and that can be summed up in 1 word, preacher WRIGHT.  I struggled with that for a very long time and finally decided I would take a chance on that, a KNOWN fact, enough to make me afraid of where we're headed under his administration without adding anything to it.


As for the place of Obama's birth and his birth certificate....do you REALLY believe if he wasn't eligible to run for the presidency the McCain campaign would not have obtained absolute proof of that???  Get real, of course they would.  So as for me...no problem with his birth certificate.


As for his past associations...of course he has associated with shady characters as has McCain.  McCain's Keating 5 was one.  Do you realize he is the ONLY senator who has been rebuked by the Senate Ethic Committee??? That's quite a record.


Obama commercials...I don't know where you are but the one that plays over and over here in Arkansas is HILARIOUS.  I can't tell you the content of the ad because both my husband and I are laughing so  hard. It plays often and we welcome the comedy.   It shows McCain and his expressions during the debate.  At the end is McCain speaking by himself FOR Obama when he says, "I've voted with the president over 90% of the time, more than even some of my party colleagues."  That in MCCAIN's own words tells me all I need to know about him.  I haven't agreed with Bush on anything since 9/11 when he stood up and made his speech....I became a Republican that day but it sure didn't last long.  McCain will bring us more of the same, maybe even worse.  So if you've done well the past 8 years and want to continue on that downhill path, by all means vote for McCain.  I'm not sure at all that we will like Obama's "change" but I'll take a chance on him before I'll vote FOR McCain.


Funny I have watched all of the debates and speeches and parts of speeches until I'm sick of it.  I have yet to hear Obama come close to what I would consider "playing the race card."  What I did hear was Palin "he isn't like the rest of us."  If that wasn't the race card I don't know what it was.  How could Obama possibly play the race card when he is half and half and raised by his WHITE grandmother, the one he says shaped him and I believe him on that.


Nov. 4 can't come fast enough to suit me.  Then I guess we can start blaming Democrats/Republicans for our continued downhill course.  What we lazy Americans, ALL of us, need to do is get off our lazy butts and do something that will effectively change the course of our country.


I respectfully request
that you not infer that I am not a Christian.  I am certainly aware of David and the many other Biblical people.  If memory serves me correctly Saul (Paul) was on his way down to Damascus breathing fire in order that he might persecute some more Christians. 
Respectfully this is the difference between sm
CChristianity and other religions. If you go to the graves of other religious "leaders" the grave will hold bones and dust. The tomb for Jesus is empty because he has arose and is alive forever more. There is a difference between religion and salvation and even some Christian denominations are nothing more than religion and there is no salvation or rerepentence to it. Not all those professing to be Christians are going to be in heaven either. Only those washed in the blood of Jesus Christ with their sins forgiven will be there.
No, Lollipop - no copy/paste......my memory serves me well....nm
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Respectfully....I don't know the time frame in which...
these children died. Yes, it is horrible, and yes, the parents responsible for the deaths should be held accountable. But I don't think the answer to that is the murder of 1.2 million babies a year because one of them might be abused. Who are we to make that decision? Why not leave THAT choice up to God?

And I beg to differ...there is absolutely nothing humane about abortion.
May I politely and respectfully direct you
back to God's word?  Obviously a little more study and maturing will do you no harm.
I respectfully suggest to you that McCain
Your mistrust is based on the "Who is the REAL Obama" smear campaign. My mistrust of McCain is based on the very fact that I DO know McCain...his record and his campaign have clearly demonstrated he cannot be trust with MY country.
I respectfully disagree on one point you made:

*...most of us on the liberal board do not buy *impending doom* theory that you live by.*


I personally will be fearful of *impending doom* for the next 3 years.  If I/we can get through that, then I'll be able to relax (a little) as hopefully more Americans will come to their senses.


Respectfully, John Edwards practically bankrupt his state with malpractice lawsuits. SM
He didn't even carry  his own state in the election.  That should tell you something.