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member of the sane club

Posted By: va on 2005-07-08
In Reply to: Could you BE any more condescending? He is called Mr. President. sm - Geez

I am a member of the sane hate shrub club, a member of the we know shrub lies about everything club and is destroying america and our standing in the world club.


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    insult to all sane americans
    To post something like this shows you are truly a bigoted fool.  You know darn well, we of the left are not *dancing on their graves*.  It is an insult that you posted this. 
    Thanks Dem for the lone sane voice here
    Thanks for affirming that the *genocide* comment was was WAYYY off base. There is a difference between you and the far leftists here, and the gap widens between the two on a daily basis.

    Ann Coulter is a very vocal (sometimes over vocal) conservative. Many of us don't always agree with her approach or tactics. However, Ann says what she feels, and her free speech is as protected as anyone elses. Now, when Michael Moore says the same things in the same way and in the same style he's lauded here. So, to say that people like Ann are uniquely on the right is completely untruthful.

    Ann is out to make money, of course! So is Michael Moore, and to a large extent so are the 9/11 widows. I don't minimize their loss, but I think exploiting their husband's memory for money politics, and 15 minutes of fame is pretty low.

    No, because the SANE people in this country say so..LOL
    x
    The SANE people are shouting! STOP
    nm
    I don't understand...you are saying Hitler's beliefs are factual and sane?
    I am very puzzled.  When challenged on your historical knowledge, you cite Hitler as a source for your information?  Remember, he also planned to exterminate the Poles and all Catholics eventually.  I don't think the reasons he cites for hating the Jews are really the basis for any historical reality. He was, after all, one the greatest propagandists.
    Sam has her own fan club!

    Ha ha to the "Sam haters!" 


    It's really something to watch how the lib media just doesn't know what to do with a woman who gave birth 5 times, still looks hot, can dress a moose, run a state, and basically laugh at their elitism.  They never will get it, ya know?


    I don't think any sane person would say wishing Bush would die and burn in hell is an actual death

    ...particulary in the context of a heated political forum.


    I think people are needing to create some drama to justify their actions.


    The point is that both sides are naughty at times.  I do notice more personal attacks by the C's though and I looked at the posts pretty carefully.  The L's seem to rely on political/lifestyle issues to upset the C's and the C's just seem to respond with barking orders and making personal attacks (liberals are sissies, etc.)


    The difference is that only the L's seem to be deleted and chastised on a regular basis.  Isn't this rather unfair and un-American.  It's called a double-standard and is not a pretty sight (and makes this not a pretty site)!!!!


    The military is not a kid club. sm

    Drinking age and fighting is an old and worn out reasoning. Besides, they get all the alcohol they want.   What are we supposed to do with men and women who choose to join the military.  Put it in writing that they will never have to go to war?  And where was the left's outrage when Clinton sent men and women into his little skirmishes.  I never heard a word then.  Never saw one leftie holding a sign that said NO MORE MOGADISHUs.  In fact, the left hardly even mentions it.  Why is that exactly?


    Is this the host of the 700 club?
    x
    I believe him too, but it's "Country CLUB First" sm...
    Seriously people. McCain is worth *100 million dollars,* is married to a beer heiress, and owns 9 homes. But you guys continue to insist that Obama is the elitist? ROFLMAO
    W's 22% fan club strikes again.
    Did you read the article? O was not mentioned once in it, but you do not hesitate to inject your O hate at every turn. Are you even capable of comment on the substance, or is your plan for the future to b*tch and moan for the net 4 years? If so, why would you expect anybody to take what you have to say seriously?

    Why not try defending W's support of these decidedly un-American precepts? Oh, maybe because it's indefensible and the only thing you know how to do is lash out at somebody who had nothing to do with it? I think I got it.


    Where did you go the club, out on Bankhead?
    Any person with any sense knows how to pick and choose what section of town they go in. I doubt the black females in town are scared of you. I have traveled in both white and black communities and never faced what you talk about. When you assume you are usually wrong- probably in this case also for you. What a crock.
    This is what passes for clarification in W's 22% fan club?
    That apples and oranges line of thinking does not compute (life in the US, Russia or Cuba). My brain cells do not connect along those same pathways. Let's try some logic.

    Since we don't know what it going to be like (your words, not mine) under O, one can only speculate. Knock yourself out on that one. I'm not into that. Bush, however, has had his debut, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th acts. The curtain is coming down and we have concrete evidence on which to base our individual takes on his regime. There is reliable data available (approval ratings, whose better off now than in 2000, the state of our economy, our standing in the world, etc) which suggests that for many of us, W has managed to single-handedly turn our country into something we can barely recognize. The hatchet job he and his buddies did early on with the Constitution is all the evidence I need to feel justified in my absolute contempt for the man and his legacy, not to mention the fact that pretty much nothing he has done has even begun to address the problems we face with terrorism on the international front and the economy, health care, the environment, etc on the home front. The decider to some, the destroyer to others.
    But that's my point, the military HAS turned into a kid club...
    For the most part.  The recruiters prey on high school kids.  Let's take a poll out there of how many of you were capable of making truly wise life-impacting decisions at age 17 and 18?  I sure wasn't and my kids certainly weren't able to.  Deciding on college, maybe.  Deciding to party, most certainly.  And the problem with the military is that it is advertised as a ticket to education and world-travel, the recruiters don't advertise it as a one-way ticket to an immoral war.  And as you know, it is extremely hard to "quit" the military if there is a change of heart...... 
    I'm a HATER, alright. I hate the ol' boy's club

    Faith in God is not an exclusive country club.
    x
    So did you get the complete roster when you joined the club?


    She is a member of the DNC....lol....
    a very high-ranking member. She is on their platform committee. This is not your average Democrat. She may not be anything to you...but she is to a lot of other people. Priceless. A member of the DNC endorses McCain. Gotta love that!! :)
    Join the club - apparently I'm a 'bible-thumping christianist' lol
    But you do have a good plan.

    Let's all wait until after the damage is done before we try to inform ourselves about an issue.

    Yeah. Real good plan.
    member confirmation of SP's

    membership in the group to secede from U.S.


    http://www.sodahead.com/question/145353/?tko=polls_recent


     


    If a crew member is not
    rowing in harmony with the rest of the crew, I think it's a good idea to put him off the boat.  Specter has said he knew he would lose the next primary, i.e., realized that Republican voters did not want him, so he jumped ship first rather than thrown overboard.  'You can't fire me.  I quit!'  Now his state can run a more suitable Republican candidate.
    Obama was a member of a church ...
    where God Dam* America was preached. And it was in 1994 either. HE taught Saul Alinsky's methods. Saul's son said Obama learned his father's lessons well. I'll say. Already wanting to employ redistribution of wealth. That is a threat NOW.


    debunked. The woman who said she was a member...
    recanted. Sorry. Maybe you should have vetted your source a little better.
    Which woman, which member? Your debunk
    I saw no formal retraction from NYT. What I saw was an article entitled "Alaska Party Official Says..." To my read, party official is not the same as a member. Would be curious to see who NYT original sources were. Before dismissing this as a "nonissue," further scruitiny on this subject is in order. If you are so confident that your source is accurate, this should not bother you in the least.
    Why should a member of homo sapiens

    He was a member of the party for awhile, yes he was....
    but so far as I know he didn't pal around with people who blew up American buildings, someone who said God D*mn aMerica from the pulpit...yeah, that's the same thing. And HE was not the one running for office. Oh heck...what was I thinking? LOL.
    From a founding member of Delta Force
    http://www.dailynews.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?article=3641046

    'Unit's' military expert has fighting words for Bush
    By David Kronke, TV Critic
    U-Entertainment
    Eric Haney, a retired command sergeant major of the U.S. Army, was a founding member of Delta Force, the military's elite covert counter-terrorist unit. He culled his experiences for Inside Delta Force (Delta; $14), a memoir rich with harrowing stories, though in an interview, Haney declines with a shrug to estimate the number of times he was almost killed. (Perhaps the most high-profile incident that almost claimed his life was the 1980 failed rescue of the hostages in Iran.) Today, he's doing nothing nearly as dangerous: He serves as an executive producer and technical adviser for The Unit, CBS' new hit drama based on his book, developed by playwright David Mamet. Even up against American Idol, The Unit shows muscle, drawing 18 million viewers in its first two airings.

    Since he has devoted his life to protecting his country in some of the world's most dangerous hot spots, you might assume Haney is sympathetic to the Bush administration's current plight in Iraq (the laudatory cover blurb on his book comes from none other than Fox's News' Bill O'Reilly). But he's also someone with close ties to the Pentagon, so he's privy to information denied the rest of us.

    We recently spoke to Haney, an amiable, soft-spoken Southern gentleman, on the set of The Unit.

    Q: What's your assessment of the war in Iraq?

    A: Utter debacle. But it had to be from the very first. The reasons were wrong. The reasons of this administration for taking this nation to war were not what they stated. (Army Gen.) Tommy Franks was brow-beaten and ... pursued warfare that he knew strategically was wrong in the long term. That's why he retired immediately afterward. His own staff could tell him what was going to happen afterward.

    We have fomented civil war in Iraq. We have probably fomented internecine war in the Muslim world between the Shias and the Sunnis, and I think Bush may well have started the third world war, all for their own personal policies.

    Q: What is the cost to our country?

    A: For the first thing, our credibility is utterly zero. So we destroyed whatever credibility we had. ... And I say we, because the American public went along with this. They voted for a second Bush administration out of fear, so fear is what they're going to have from now on.

    Our military is completely consumed, so were there a real threat - thankfully, there is no real threat to the U.S. in the world, but were there one, we couldn't confront it. Right now, that may not be a bad thing, because that keeps Bush from trying something with Iran or with Venezuela.

    The harm that has been done is irreparable. There are more than 2,000 American kids that have been killed. Tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis have been killed � which no one in the U.S. really cares about those people, do they? I never hear anybody lament that fact. It has been a horror, and this administration has worked overtime to divert the American public's attention from it. Their lies are coming home to roost now, and it's gonna fall apart. But somebody's gonna have to clear up the aftermath and the harm that it's done just to what America stands for. It may be two or three generations in repairing.

    Q: What do you make of the torture debate? Cheney ...

    A: (Interrupting) That's Cheney's pursuit. The only reason anyone tortures is because they like to do it. It's about vengeance, it's about revenge, or it's about cover-up. You don't gain intelligence that way. Everyone in the world knows that. It's worse than small-minded, and look what it does.

    I've argued this on Bill O'Reilly and other Fox News shows. I ask, who would you want to pay to be a torturer? Do you want someone that the American public pays to torture? He's an employee of yours. It's worse than ridiculous. It's criminal; it's utterly criminal. This administration has been masters of diverting attention away from real issues and debating the silly. Debating what constitutes torture: Mistreatment of helpless people in your power is torture, period. And (I'm saying this as) a man who has been involved in the most pointed of our activities. I know it, and all of my mates know it. You don't do it. It's an act of cowardice. I hear apologists for torture say, Well, they do it to us. Which is a ludicrous argument. ... The Saddam Husseins of the world are not our teachers. Christ almighty, we wrote a Constitution saying what's legal and what we believed in. Now we're going to throw it away.

    Q: As someone who repeatedly put your life on the line, did some of the most hair-raising things to protect your country, and to see your country behave this way, that must be ...

    A: It's pretty galling. But ultimately I believe in the good and the decency of the American people, and they're starting to see what's happening and the lies that have been told. We're seeing this current house of cards start to flutter away. The American people come around. They always do.

    THE UNIT

    What: Action-adventure about special-ops unit.
    Where: CBS (Channel 2).
    When: 9 p.m. Tuesdays.

    ---
    David Kronke (818) 713-3638 david.kronke@dailynews.com
    Spoken like a true blue member of the
    Rah! Rah! Sis-boom-blah!
    Obama was a member of a church whose pastor said...
    "God damm* America." Obama went to that church for 20 years.

    Palin's husband was a member of the Alaskan Independence party several years ago, and this quote came from the head of the party.

    I see absolutely NO difference. If you are going to condemn one, condemn both.
    For the record: Sarah Palin NOT a member of...

    Alaska Independent Party.


    Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member
    NYT (Slimes) ^ | 8/2/2008


    Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:30:43 AM by GVnana


    September 2, 2008, 10:32 pm Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member By The New York Times

    The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s secession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.

    A front-page story in The New York Times on Tuesday and articles in other news media reported that Ms. Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for two years in the 1990’s.

    The information in the Times article was based on a statement issued Monday night by Lynette Clark, the party’s chairwoman, who said that Ms. Palin joined the party in 1994 and in 1996 changed her registration to Republican. On Tuesday night, Ms. Clark said that her initial statement was incorrect and had been based on erroneous information provided by another member of the party whom she declined to identify.

    The McCain campaign also disputed the Times report, saying that Ms. Palin had been registered consistently as a Republican. After checking the party’s archives, Ms. Clark said that she could find no documentation that Governor Palin had been a member of the party. She said Ms. Palin attended the party’s 1994 and 2006 conventions and provided a video-taped address as governor to the 2008 convention. Ms. Clark said that Ms. Palin’s husband, Todd, was a former member of the party.


    He's a member of a political party in Ghana?
    how does that work?
    Choir member reassuring each other that their campaign
    nm
    Choir member....what an interesting choice of words.

    I wonder what you are implying?


    Cole family member, didn't vote for O
    You win some, you lose some.

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/obama-meets-with-family-members-of-uss-cole-911-victims/
    Funny our church member interprets his "religion"
    of Islam, as he was brought up to believe, as a religion that somewhere along the line got wrapped up in hate instead of love, and he knows exactly how to interpret the religion he was brought up in. He can tell me he was taught hate.... I can honestly say my teachings have never taught that.

    Interview with Charmaine Neville, family member of the Neville musical family

    September 7, 2005

    Women were Being Raped, Babies were Being Killed, Alligators were Eating People, But Where the Hell was the National Guard?
    How We Survived the Flood
    By CHARMAINE NEVILLE

      This is a transcription of an interview Charmaine Neville, of New Orleans's legendary Neville family, gave to local media outlets on Monday, September 5.

    I was in my house when everything first started. When the hurricane came, it blew all the left side of my house off, and the water was coming in my house in torrents.

    I had my neighbor, an elderly man, and myself, in the house with our dogs and cats, and we were trying to stay out of the water. But the water was coming in too fast. So we ended up having to leave the house.

    We left the house and we went up on the roof of a school. I took a crowbar and I burst the door on the roof of the school to help people on the roof.

    Later on we found a flat boat, and we went around the neighborhood in a flat boat getting people out of their houses and bringing them to the school.

    We found all the food that we could and we cooked and we fed people. But then, things started getting really bad.

    By the second day, the people that were there, that we were feeding and everything, we had no more food and no water. We had nothing, and other people were coming in our neighborhood. We were watching the helicopters going across the bridge and airlift other people out, but they would hover over us and tell us Hi! and that would be all. They wouldn't drop us any food or any water, or nothing.

    Alligators were eating people. They had all kinds of stuff in the water. They had babies floating in the water.

    We had to walk over hundreds of bodies of dead people. People that we tried to save from the hospices, from the hospitals and from the old-folks homes. I tried to get the police to help us, but I realized they were in the same straits we were. We rescued a lot of police officers in the flat boat from the 5th district police station. The guy who was in the boat, he rescued a lot of them and brought them to different places so they could be saved.

    We understood that the police couldn't help us, but we couldn't understand why the National Guard and them couldn't help us, because we kept seeing them but they never would stop and help us.

    Finally it got to be too much, I just took all of the people that I could. I had two old women in wheelchairs with no legs, that I rowed them from down there in that nightmare to the French Quarters, and I went back and got more people.

    There were groups of us, there were about 24 of us, and we kept going back and forth and rescuing whoever we could get and bringing them to the French Quarter because we heard that there were phones in the French Quarter, and that there wasn't any water. And they were right, there were phones, but we couldn't get through to anyone.

    I found some police officers. I told them that a lot of us women had been raped down there by guys, not from the neighborhood where we were, they were helping us to save people. But other men, and they came and they started raping women and they started killing, and I don't know who these people were. I'm not gonna tell you I know, because I don't.

    But what I want people to understand is that, if we hadn't been left down there like the animals that they were treating us like, all of those things wouldn't have happened. People are trying to say that we stayed in that city because we wanted to be rioting and we wanted to do this and, we didn't have resources to get out, we had no way to leave.

    When they gave the evacuation order, if we could've left, we would have left.

    There are still thousands and thousands of people trapped in their homes in the downtown area. When we finally did get into the 9th ward, and not just in my neighborhood, but in other neighborhoods in the 9th ward, there were a lot of people still trapped down there... old people, young people, babies, pregnant women. I mean, nobody's helping them.

    And I want people to realize that we did not stay in the city so we could steal and loot and commit crimes. A lot of those young men lost their minds because the helicopters would fly over us and they wouldn't stop. We would make SOS on the flashlights, we'd do everything, and it really did come to a point, where these young men were so frustrated that they did start shooting. They weren't trying to hit the helicopters, they figured maybe they weren't seeing. Maybe if they hear this gunfire they will stop then. But that didn't help us. Nothing like that helped us.

    Finally, I got to Canal St. with all of my people I had saved from back there.

    I don't want them arresting nobody else. I broke the window in an RTA bus. I never learned how to drive a bus in my life. I got in that bus. I loaded all of those people in wheelchairs and in everything else into that bus, and we drove and we drove and we drove and millions of people was trying to get me to help them to get on the bus, too.

    Charmaine Neville is a member of the third generation of New Orleans's legendary Neville musical family. She fronts the Charmaine Neville Band.