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what worries me the most...

Posted By: We can't afford it! on 2008-11-03
In Reply to: They're mesmerized. They don't care what he says... - sam

Is that too many have already voted--and for the man who will literally bankrupt our great nation while "socializing" it.


Remember when Maxine Waters said that basically the gov't would run everything?  She didn't plan to leak that one out!  If you want to see it, here it is:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW_FXjbt6wY


Even Jerrold Nadler, a very liberal Rep (D-NY) is concerned about Obama's relationship with Rev. Wright.  That's huge!


Nadler Challenges Obama's Political Courage
 For Not Leaving Trinity Church







Washington, D.C. (November 3, 2008) -- Republican Jewish Coalition Executive Director Matt Brooks responded today to the comments made by Rep. Jerrold Nadler's (D-NY) at a forum in Boca Raton, Florida yesterday.  Rep. Nadler, acting as an Obama surrogate, said Obama didn't leave Trinity United Church, after learning of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric, because he "didn't have the political courage to make the statement of walking out."

 
"It is ironic that Obama's own surrogate recognizes Obama lacks the political courage to stand up for what is right," said Brooks. "Having failed to stand up to anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric in the past, one has to wonder if Obama will have the courage to stand up to it as president?   Because Obama has not stood up to this type of rhetoric and because of Obama's choice of associates and advisers, the Jewish community remains deeply concerned about an Obama Presidency.  Even Obama surrogate Rep. Jerrold Nadler acknowledges that when faced with tough decisions in the past, Obama lacked the political courage to do what is right."  
 
Watch the video of Rep. Nadler's comments.
 


 


 




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That's what worries me about O...
His plan will surely benefit the lower and middle classes, but in the end, it may just keep them subdued. I don't know if playing Robin Hood is going to really fix anything. There are crooks on both ends of the classes. There are people who are rich who got there by cheating and stealing, and there are people who are poor who got there by poor choices and are cheating and stealing from the welfare system.

I think someone said this before, but what happened to the America where everyone worked hard and people were to proud to take a handout? So often it seems like people feel they are owed something. Everyone wants something for nothing.

I just feel like his plan is going to hurt more than help in the end. It's like putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound. I mean don't get me wrong, extra income and a few more dollars would be great right now, but I'm not sure if taking from the top and giving it to the bottom is the right way to do it. I think we need to focus on education and getting people OFF welfare. We need to take a look at these people who have been on it for years and find out why they can't seem to move up. Is it because they CAN'T, or WON'T?


Dow has been down also because of worries about
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No worries....got all the money
Won't be a problem in Iran, either. God forgive us.


Senate Votes to Raise Debt Limit

By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer 44 minutes ago

The Senate voted Thursday to allow the national debt to swell to nearly $9 trillion, preventing a first-ever default on U.S. Treasury notes.

The bill passed by a 52-48 vote. The increase to $9 trillion represents about $30,000 for every man, woman and child in the United States. The bill now goes to President Bush for his signature.

The measure allows the government to pay for the war in Iraq and finance Medicare and other big federal programs without raising taxes. It passed hours before the House was expected to approve another $91 billion to fund the war in Iraq and provide more aid to hurricane victims.

The partisan vote also came as the Senate continued debate on a $2.8 trillion budget blueprint for the upcoming fiscal year that would produce a $359 billion deficit for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1.

The debt limit will increase by $781 billion. It's the fourth such move — increasing the debt limit by a total of $3 trillion — since Bush took office five years ago.

The vote came a day after Treasury Secretary John Snow warned lawmakers that action was critical to provide certainty to financial markets that the integrity of the obligations of the United States will not be compromised.

On Thursday, Treasury postponed next week's auction of three-month and six-month bills pending Senate action, though the move was likely to be quickly reversed given the Senate's vote.

The present limit on the debt is $8.2 trillion. With the budget deficit expected to approach $400 billion for both this year and next, another increase in the debt limit will almost certainly be required next year.

The debt limit increase is an unhappy necessity — the alternative would be a disastrous first-ever default on U.S. obligations — that greatly overshadowed a mostly symbolic, weeklong debate on the GOP's budget resolution.

Democrats blasted the bill, saying it was needed because of fiscal mismanagement by Bush, who came to office when the government was running record surpluses.

When it comes to deficits, this president owns all the records, said Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. The three largest deficits in our nation's history have all occurred under this administration's watch.

Only a handful of Republicans spoke in favor of the measure as a mostly empty Senate chamber conducted a brief debate Wednesday evening.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, said Bush's tax cuts account for just 30 percent of the debt limit increases required during his presidency. Revenue losses from a recession and new spending to combat terrorism and for the war in Iraq are also responsible, he said.

As for the $781 billion increase in the debt limit, Grassley said: It is necessary to preserve the full faith and credit of the federal government.

Before approving the bill, Republicans rejected by a 55-44 vote an amendment by Max Baucus, D-Mont., to mandate a Treasury study on the economic consequences of foreigners holding an increasing portion of the U.S. debt.

At present, foreign countries, central banks and other institutions hold more than one-fourth of the debt, but that percentage is growing rapidly.

Following the debt limit vote Thursday, the Senate was expected to vote late in the day on the budget plan, a nonbinding measure proposing tax and spending guidelines for the next five years.

Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., appears poised to win an increase of $7 billion in new and real funding for education and health research. The $7 billion would effectively be used to break Bush's $873 billion budget cap for 2007, which represents the most significant vestige of fiscal discipline remaining in Senate Budget Committee Chairman Judd Gregg's budget.

The underlying Senate budget plan is notable chiefly for dropping Bush's proposed cuts to Medicare and for abandoning his efforts to expand health savings accounts or pass legislation to make permanent his 2001 tax cut bill.

Unlike last year, when Congress passed a bill trimming $39 billion from the deficit through curbs to Medicaid, Medicare and student loan subsidies, Senate GOP leaders have abandoned plans to pass another round of cuts to so-called mandatory programs.

But Gregg's measure re-ignites last year's battle over allowing oil drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, since it would let Senate leaders bring an ANWR drilling measure to the floor under rules blocking a filibuster by opponents.

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Well this worries me...could this be his first test...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_medvedev


 



MOSCOW – Russia will deploy short-range missiles near Poland to counter U.S. military plans in Eastern Europe, President Dmitry Medvedev warned Wednesday, setting a combative tone that clashed with global goodwill over Barack Obama's election.


In his first state of the nation speech, Medvedev blamed Washington for the war in Georgia and the world financial crisis and suggested it was up to Washington to mend badly damaged ties.


Medvedev also proposed increasing the Russian presidential term to six years from four — a change that could deepen Western concern over democracy in Russia and play into the hands of his mentor, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who has not ruled out a return to the Kremlin.


Extending the presidential term could mean a possible 12 more years in the top office for the popular Putin.


Echoing Putin, who made criticism of Washington and the West a hallmark of his two-term, eight-year presidency, Medvedev used the speech in an ornate Kremlin reception hall to cast Russia as a nation threatened by encroaching American military might.


"From what we have seen in recent years — the creation of a missile defense system, the encirclement of Russia with military bases, the relentless expansion of NATO — we have gotten the clear impression that they are testing our strength," Medvedev said.


He signaled Moscow would not give in to Western calls to pull troops from Georgia's breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, or rescind its recognition of their independence following the August war.


"We will not retreat in the Caucasus," he said, winning one of many rounds of applause during the televised 85-minute address.


Talking tough, he fleshed out long-promised military measures in response to U.S. plans for missile defense facilities in Poland and the Czech Republic, former Soviet satellites now in NATO. The Kremlin claims the system is meant to weaken Russia, not defend against Iran, as Washington insists.


Medvedev said Iskander missiles would be deployed to Russia's western enclave of Kaliningrad, sandwiched between Poland and Lithuania, "to neutralize, if necessary, a missile defense system."


The Iskander has a range of about 280 kilometers (175 miles), which would allow it to reach targets in Poland but not in the Czech Republic — but officials have said its range could be increased. Medvedev did not say whether the missiles would be fitted with nuclear warheads.


Russia will also deploy electronic jamming equipment, Medvedev said.


After the speech, the Kremlin announced Medvedev had congratulated Obama for winning the U.S. presidency, saying in a telegram he was "counting on a constructive dialogue with you on the basis of trust and taking each other's interests into account."


In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack emphasized that the planned missile defenses were not aimed at Russia.


"The steps that the Russian government announced today are disappointing," McCormack said. "But, again, this is not directed at them. Hopefully one day they'll realize that."


Medvedev appeared to be trying to improve Russia's bargaining position in potential talks with the Obama administration on missile defense. His wording suggested Russia would reverse the decision if the U.S. scraps its missile defense plans.


"Moscow isn't interested in confrontation, and if Obama makes some conciliatory gestures it will respond correspondingly," said Alexander Pikayev, an analyst at Moscow's Institute for World Economy and International Relations.


But independent military analyst Alexander Golts said Medvedev's "confrontational tone" could further harm relations with the United States, which plunged to a post-Cold War low over the war in Georgia.

"Russia itself is cutting off the route toward better ties," he said.

Regional leaders criticized Medvedev's missile warning. German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said it was "certainly the wrong signal at the wrong time" and urged the U.S. and Russia to see change in the White House as an "opportunity for a new beginning."

Medvedev suggested the U.S. must make the first move to break the chill. The Kremlin hopes the incoming administration "will make a choice in favor of full-fledged relations with Russia," he said.

In addition to calling for a six-year presidential term, he said parliament's term should be extended to five years instead of four and its power over the executive branch increased.

Both changes could strengthen the hand of Putin, who can run for president again in 2012 and now heads the dominant United Russia party.


No worries, icytoes.
I know a lot of people who think both countries are in the middle east and they're not ignorant. When you listen to all that's going on in those countries, it does sound like they are very close in proximity, so it's an easy mistake to make.

Just take the snide comments of everyone else with a grain of salt. So you made a mistake and then corrected it. There are a lot of posts on this board where the OP made an oops - everyone makes mistakes.

You stick by what you believe in and don't let the meanies get you down. =)
No worries, comrade

I'm sure they will still be blaming Bush.  That seems to be the only thing dems can say.  Well Bush started it.  Bush did this.  Bush did that.  I didn't do it, Bush and the pubs did.  It's okay for me to double our deficit during my first couple of months in office because Bush spent so much in 8 years.  It is all Bush's fault even though dems controlled congress for the last 2 years of his presidency.  The pubs are all out to make dems fail to make them look bad even though the dems didn't do anything good during their 2 years control of congress because they didn't want the pubs to look good either.  It isn't right to take free will away from someone wanting an abortion but it is okay to take the rights away from the doctor and not allow him to refuse to perform the procedure.  It was okay for dems to wish Bush would fail but not okay for pubs and others to with Obama to fail. 


But hey.....when all else fails......just  blame Bush and praise Obama.


What worries me most about his plan...
isn't that the supermax prisons won't be able to hold them safely, but what if even one or two aren't convicted? What do we do with them then? Send them home or set them up in the US with their own Medicare card? That possibility isn't even being discussed.
What worries me most about his plan...
isn't that the supermax prisons won't be able to hold them safely, but what if even one or two aren't convicted? What do we do with them then? Send them home or set them up in the US with their own Medicare card? That possibility isn't even being discussed.