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when you hire lobbyists

Posted By: TTP on 2008-09-12
In Reply to: I have had many bosses like Sara Palin, have known many neurotic women like that... - MTpockets

to go to Washington to get FEDERAL (i.e. yours and mine) pork barrel money for a state and then give the residents a "rebate" you tend to be liked by voters.  Many interviewed were unaware of the trooper scandal, the per diem charges for staying in her own home, etc. Majority of people do not pay attention to governmental affairs -- too busy chasing wolves and chopping their forefeet off.


 




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Well, as far as lobbyists....
Joe Biden's son is one.
Yea, he wants to stop lobbyists

He received $708,000 from medical and insurance interests between 2001 and 2006, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. And Michelle Obama is a vice president for community and external affairs at the University of Chicago Hospitals, a position that paid her $316,962 annually.


You see all you O lovers, they're dirt poor just like you and they don't take money from outside interest as he said he didn't.  And they know your plight so well, since they live within your means.  


OK. Let's go there. How PAC and lobbyists bankroll
http://www.campaignmoney.org/pressroom/2008/08/13/the-nearly-1-billion-connection-mccain-and-his-lobbyists-clients
Political action committees (PACs) have donated $11,750,051 to McCain campaigns.

http://www.mccainslobbyists.com/
For a fascinating read on the 40 top lobbyists. It has a photo gallery game board set up. Mouse over a photo, click and voila...campaign contribution amounts pop up. Scroll down just a tad after that for insightful biographies on these cronies (all colluded with the Bush administration), their ties to one another, the conflict of interests and how they ride around in McCain's pockets. It's great fun.
Lobbyists in Washington
If you mean the Wall Street crash, causing by mtg backed securities wrapped up into investments and then sold with the thought "housing will continue to gain in value or at least, hold their value in the investment vehicle," that has nothing to do with politics. Bush made a speech "more Americans own homes today than at any other time in the history of the country." And it was true, even if the home owners weren't credit worthy or the mtg were ARMs or floating (interest upfront) and needed to be refi'ed at some point in the future for the mtg holder to afford them. Following home values make it hard to refi a house, as everyone knew.

These men who sunk the world economy knew exactly what they were doing. Many became quite wealthy due to it.

The loss of the stock values that ensued, as I have followed it closely, made no real sense. the Paulson Bailout was a guise to give banks money to purchase other banks, not save Main Street. A few very wealthy people call the shots. And, it appears, even they are being swindled by their business partners.

Greed is the root of all evil and evil thrives when good men do nothing - or choose to do nothing for a number of reasons.

Bush looks happy as a lark even as his countrymen are facing the brink of of a recession not seen since the Great Depression.

The people of this country are to blame in the end for allowing it to continue. The U.S. is For the People, By the People and Of the People. Buck stops with the people.
and who will you hire?
Me - MT with 30 years of experience in the field of MT or

person X - just graduated from an MT program.

Sorry - education is not all there is to it. Much to be said for experience. Obama does not have it. McCain does.
Obama has lobbyists on his campaign as well...
and until recently, Joe Biden's son was a paid lobbyist for several years in Washington and did several deals with dad.
Lobbyists on both sides. Obama worked with lobbyists in Chicago.
As long as there are lobbyists there will be loopholes

Every elected official is getting money from insurance and pharmaceutical companies to legislate loopholes for them.  You actually think telling these officials to jump off their gravy train and bite the hands that feed them is really going to work?  And, why, exactly would they do that - because they care about the little people that elected them more than their own bank accounts?  Even if they only stay elected for one term, they can rake in enough dough in bribes for votes to retire like kings.  They like that, and they're not about to change it.


Oh, and after I take your suggestion and put myself into debt and sell everything I own to pay for one person's medical bills, what if another family member, such as myself, gets sick?  The money is going to run out sooner rather than later, considering any one denied surgical procedure costs more than my 50k house.  When a person is ill, I don't think they have the energy to liquidate their lives, even if they have something to liquidate.  And what do they have to look forward to, if and when they recover - poverty and homelessness and more debt than they can ever recover from?


You haven't convinced me.  I still would rather pay taxes for guaranteed health care than pay high premiums for diddly squat.  And I've yet to find an employer who offers better healthcare - every place I've worked, they end up downgrading it due to costs until its outrageously expensive and covers nearly nothing.


Maybe the Dems will hire another
of thosed neat speed readers.  Talk about absolute arrogance and disrespect.  Gosh that was fun! 
Obama-Biden Lobbyists - change??

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/27/politics/washingtonpost/main4388540.shtml


http://blog1.thejtandbearshow.com/2008/08/27/obama-rewarded-bidens-lobbyist-son-with-34-million-in-earmarks.aspx


Didn't Obama say "NO LOBBYISTS"?
There are 12 lobbylists in his administration............but, of course, all Obama lovers will certainly defend them somehow!  They always do. 
Would you hire somebody who on 3 separate occasions
description?
Would you hire someone who can't can't to four? Thinks J-O-B-S has three letters
And his list goes on and on ad nauseum.


He's the real joke in the #2 slot this year, on the dem. side
Yes, many of them hire good-looking women
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What is so interesting that Joe the Plumber has to hire a publicist team? nm
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Just stop the conspiracy by showing your BC, why hire three law firms...HMMM


New Bush rule makes it easier to hire foreign workers

Dec 10, 8:43 PM EST


Administration changes to farm worker hiring afoot


By SUZANNE GAMBOA
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON (AP) -- As it prepares to leave office, the Bush administration is moving to make it easier for U.S. farming companies to hire foreign field workers, which farmworker groups say will worsen wages and working conditions.


Farm groups said that changes to the H2A visa program, used by the agriculture industry to hire temporary farm workers, were posted on the Labor Department's Web site at midnight Tuesday but have since been taken down.


Labor Department spokesman Terry Shawn said whatever was posted wasn't the final version of the new rule, which Shawn said would be released Thursday and published in the Federal Register on Dec. 18.


The Bush administration published a proposed version of the new rule last Feb. 13 and received nearly 12,000 public comments, Shawn added. The next version will be a final rule and can take effect 30 days after publication. Some of its provisions would take effect in mid-January and others later in the year, the farmworker groups said.


Farm worker advocates and the United Farm Workers union said the version that appeared on the Web site would lead to a flood of cheaper workers.


"The government has decided to offer agriculture employers really low wages, low benefits, no government oversight to bring in foreign workers on restricted visas and thereby convince them they should do this instead of hiring undocumented workers," said Bruce Goldstein, executive director of Farmworker Justice, a group that advocates for farmworkers.


The changes in the posted version would drop a requirement that an employer get the Labor Department to certify it faces a worker shortage before it can get visas for foreign workers; instead, employers would be allowed to simply attest in writing to a shortage. That version of the new rule also would change the method for calculating wage minimums for workers and relieve employers of a requirement to recruit in states or communities where other employers already are hiring farm workers, Goldstein said.


But Assistant Labor Secretary Leon Sequeira said Wednesday evening the agency is not dropping the obligation to obtain certification, which is required by law.


Paul Schlegel, American Farm Bureau public policy director, said many of the changes will make the program a little less burdensome for employers. He said existing laws prevent employers from hiring foreign workers if the jobs can be filled by U.S. workers.


"My members want to make sure they have a legal supply of labor," said Schlegel, who added that he had not reviewed all the proposed changes.


The rule changes are a part of a pattern of last-minute regulatory changes being rushed into effect by the Bush administration before President-elect Barack Obama's Jan. 20 inauguration.


The effect is to make it harder for Obama to change course on some policies favored by Republicans and the business community.


"We are hopeful that the Obama administration would recognize the utter mistake and unfairness of this proposal," Goldstein said. Congress has a procedure for reversing the rules, he said.


Many of the last-minute changes by the Bush administration have come in the area of public lands and the environment, including easing regulations on mining waste and allowing handguns in national parks. Another pending rule would grant greater leeway to railroads to transport hazardous materials through densely populated areas.


Just stop the conspiracy by showing your long form BC, why hire three law firms...HMMM