| thinking it over - can you hear cerumen in your s/l?Posted By: MDmt on 2008-01-16In Reply to: ENT help - please
 
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 cerumen
 Subject: cerumen
 
 The cerumen was removed from his ear s/l aboriously with great difficulty.
 cerumen (ear wax) nm.
 Subject: cerumen (ear wax) nm.
 
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 Cerumen (ear wax) nm
 Subject: Cerumen (ear wax) nm
 
 
 cerumen ??
 Subject: cerumen ??
 
 
 cerumen curette?
 Subject: cerumen curette?
 
 
 cerumen in sinuses
 Subject: cerumen in sinuses
 
 think something is wrong - if you are talking cerumen impaction, the doc is not looking in his nose; could be "gross cerumen impaction" if looking in ears, but not sinuses -
 Impacted with cerumen
 Subject: Impacted with cerumen
 
 S/L accreditus with cerumen.
 earwax is cerumen
 Subject: earwax is cerumen
 
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 cerumen, eosinophils, eosinophilia- have to look again
 Subject: cerumen, eosinophils, eosinophilia- have to look again
 
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 cerumen in his NOSE?  don't think so.  Try again chickie. nm
 Subject: cerumen in his NOSE?  don't think so.  Try again chickie. nm
 
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 how about "partial" cerumen, again just guessing
 Subject: how about "partial" cerumen, again just guessing
 
 
 true they can but not cerumen IN the nose.
 Subject: true they can but not cerumen IN the nose.
 
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 "absence" to remove cerumen
 Subject: "absence" to remove cerumen
 
 Sounds like...I used cerumen with both a curette and "absence"
 Speaking of ears clogged with cerumen, are there
 Subject: Speaking of ears clogged with cerumen, are there
 
 
 any ENT MTs who know if there is another product, other than Debrox, or Cerumenix (which was by RX only, but discontinued) to remove chronic earwax, other than going to the ENT to have them irrigated and removed with a curette? 
 I can't seem to find any drug on the market; prescription or otherwise, other than those mentioned above, which were of no benefit. 
 Your help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks. wild guess - "fresh cerumen" impaction?
 Subject: wild guess - "fresh cerumen" impaction?
 
 
 cerumen impaction is it! But can there be any other word in front of it instead of fresh?
 Subject: cerumen impaction is it! But can there be any other word in front of it instead of fresh?
 
 
 OBJECTIVE: Left s/l "EEC" is occluded with soft cerumen.
 Subject: OBJECTIVE: Left s/l "EEC" is occluded with soft cerumen.
 
 diagnosis:  Cerumen impaction.
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 Subject: Can you hear bunion for the first word?  And the second can you hear symptomatic or sensory pain?
 
 
 Cannot hear adenopathy.  Clearly hear *pology.   Thank you, though.
 Subject: Cannot hear adenopathy.  Clearly hear *pology.   Thank you, though.
 
 
 still thinking
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 those lines, just wanted a second opinion.  :-)
 that's actually what I was thinking too - nm
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 Tks.  I kept thinking there is another
 Subject: Tks.  I kept thinking there is another
 
 Like ...there were lewes....or something.  You are probably right, and I finally found it in stedman's and it says *sternal angle* and that seems to fit the way the doctor used it.  Thanks again.
 that's what i am thinking
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 I was thinking along the lines of this from the begining....compression over lower extremities.....just wish I didn't hear otherwise!  (I hate Monday's) That's exactly what I was thinking
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 but I have this doc all the time and she's never dictated time like that before, so I just wasn't sure.  Thanks to all who replied.
 I was thinking that too...I'd have to say it was:
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 That's what I was thinking..maybe she
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 just got ahead of herself when dictating it in the assessment..because I definitely didn't hear an itis at the end...just a gingival or gingivo sound.   
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   That's what I was thinking, too.
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 I am thinking it
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 may be (LIMA) or left internal mammary artery ..... of course you are hearing it.
 That's what I was thinking...
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 but was unsure.  It's an ESL doctor and she says it twice.  It doesn't really sound like there is an F in the pronunciation, though.
 that's what I was thinking.
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 That is what I have been doing but I guess I just wanted extra reassurance! Thanks.
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 some kind of rowing exercise...____ rows, but I can't come up with anything better than that.
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 I was thinking the same, but (sm)
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 why would he dictate this along with vital signs?  Seems strange
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 Thank you for your input!!!
 That's what I'm thinking..sm
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 This client requires headings whether or not dictated, so I wanted to make sure I'm correct.
 
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 However, I just found a very good article called "Varney's Midwifery" that says it is part of the abdominal exam.
 
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 That's what I was thinking.
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 Most of the references I found say that if a patient is unable to consent to surgery, two doctors can sign the consent form on the patient's behalf.  I am just not sure if the dictators mean double-doctored or double-documented when they say double doc'd.  I do all ops, so it comes up fairly often.
 that's what i was thinking too - nm
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 I was thinking that too . . .
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 He is in rare form today.   I think he meant to say compression but it honestly sounds like inspriation.  Sigh*** I mightjust sent it through with a flag.
 not thinking-- thanks!!
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 thanks, that is what I was thinking also.  nm
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 thinking...
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 The left wrist is inspected showing there to be a visible soft tissue swollen area of the dorsal wrist closer to the radial aspect of the wrist.  It is approximately 3 cm in diameter.  Mobile tender to palpation and consistent with the ganglion cyst.
 
 I was thinking a comma should go after diameter and before mobile. (where I have a period) What do you think?
 I was thinking that too until...
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 ...a couple of lines down he said the patient was circumcised. This guy completely rambles. I really didn't know about hair tourniquets until tonight's dictation. (Now If only I could forget the mental image!) Thanks for taking time to answer--this newbie appreciates it.
 I was thinking
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 false lumen, but that when googled is associated it looks mostly with aorta.  Unless you think they could be talking about the abdominal aorta???
 that's what I was thinking, but
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