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Aplogies to Jon for miss spelling his name

Posted By: badpenny on 2008-10-09
In Reply to: Love, love, love John Stewart. . . - badpenny

 . . . also love Stephen Colbert and Whoopi and Joy on the View (not so carzy about Elizabeth), and also now truly in love with Keith Olberman (sp?) on Countdown.

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I am not one to be a spelling

police on this off-duty board but this post has made me so angry I can't help but notice it is frought with errors making me wonder if these posts are even posted by AMERICAN citizens?  I doubt it. 

Just one example, what the he11 is an attorney who "speecialises"???????  I doubt this is just an ordinary old typo.

maybe he became a spelling teacher
Shelly, just because I tried to help you with spelling, there is
you are very sensitive and I'm sure it is because you are corrected a lot in your job
spelling error
It's actually ''redneck ignoramice.'' Plural.

(I'll spare you my usual speech about how class discrimination destroyed southern culture!)
thanks for the spelling update.....
I'm usually a real stickler for spelling........obviously, I screwed that one up.....such is life. mice instead of mouse.........interesting.
My grammar and spelling is better than yours.nm
Why the spelling police have shown up! sm
I make typos all the time and so does everyone else. 
Correcting my spelling...should be subpoena (nm)
The correct spelling is sycophant.
Aha! SPELLING POLICE starts again!
This is a sign that you feel in the weaker position. It was a TYPO, o.k.!

Everone who starts with grammar and spelling police, insults and bashing admits that he has been cornered and his weakness shows.

Playing grammar- and spelling-police is NOT tolerated on this Forum, read the rules of this forum!

Got it!

Ignore my spelling errors in the above post
Just read it and have a couple spelling errors, please ignore them.
Sorry, the correct spelling is Tuskegee, so you can Google it.
touchas -- looked up proper spelling nm



hope there are no spelling police today...
good thing I am not running for president, huh? But then, hmmm, maybe I could too. Seems like just anybody these days can do it.
Spelling police not allowed on this board.
Um, excuse me, NO spelling police here - read the
Opps-absolutely (spelling error(nm)

And you need to read your dictionary for correct spelling......
The transcript and a bonus (the incorrect spelling is not mine)


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Saturday, Oct 01, 2005

Quotes And Statements

Quotes Statement By Bill Bennett, Sep. 30, 2005
From the Desk of William J. Bennett September 30, 2005

On Wednesday, a caller to my radio show proposed the idea that one good argument for the pro-life position would be that if we didn't have abortions, Social Security would be solvent. I stated my doubts about such a thesis, as well as my opposition to such a form of argument (the audio of the call is available at my Website: bennettmornings.com).

I then stated that such extrapolations of this argument can cut both ways, and cited the current bestseller, Freakonomics, which discusses the authors' thesis that abortion reduces crime.

Then, putting my philosophy professor's hat on, I went on to reveal the limitations of such arguments by showing the absurdity in another such argument, along the same lines. I entertained what law school professors call 'the Socratic method' and what I would hope good social science professors still use in their seminars. In so doing, I suggested a hypothetical analogy while at the same time saying the proposition I was using about blacks and abortion was 'impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible,' just to ensure those who would have any doubt about what they were hearing, or for those who tuned in to the middle of the conversation.

The issues of crime and race have been on many people's minds, and tongues, for the past month or so--in light of the situation in New Orleans; and the issues of race, crime, and abortion are well aired and ventilated in articles, the academy, the think tank community, and public policy. Indeed the whole issue of crime and race is not new in social science, nor popular literature. One of the authors of Freakonomics, himself, had an extended exchange on the discussion of these issues on the Internet some years back--which was also much debated in the think tank community in Washington.

A thought experiment about public policy, on national radio, should not have received the condemnations it has. Anyone paying attention to this debate should be offended by those who have selectively quoted me, distorted my meaning, and taken out of context the dialogue I engaged in this week. Such distortions from 'leaders' of organizations and parties is a disgrace not only to the organizations and institutions they serve, but to the First Amendment.

In sum, let me reiterate what I had hoped my long career had already established: that I renounce all forms of bigotry--and that my record in trying to provide opportunities for, as well as save the lives of, minorities in this country stands up just fine.

Quotes Bill Bennett Interview on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes Regarding Race, Crime, Etc.
Courtesy of Fox News Channel/9-29-2005

First, our top story tonight is the controversy surrounding radio talk show host Bill Bennett. Yesterday on his radio show, Mr. Bennett -- Dr. Bennett was quoted as saying. I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you cold abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down...that would be an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down. So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky.

The comments have drawn criticism today from Senate minority leader Harry Reid who said he was appalled. Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy who called them racist and from House minority leader Nancy Pelosi who said they were shameful. Bill Bennett joins us now in an exclusive interview to talk about these comments.

Dr. Bennett, we appreciate you coming on tonight.


COLMES: Might give you an opportune to put them in context and explain.

BENNETT: Sure. Well, the context was a radio show that I was doing yesterday, and the topic was abortion and we were talking about bad arguments in regard to abortion. A caller suggested he was opposed to abortion because he said if there were more babies there would be, eventually, more tax payers and a larger GNP, a smaller deficit. I said you want to be careful with that kind of argument because someone could postulate a situation where child's not likely to be a productive taxpayer. I said, arguments in which you take something that's far out, like the GNP and try to connect it up with abortion are tricky. I said make the case of abortion on the basis of life and protecting life. I said abortion is invoked in another way; you could make an argument that if you wanted to lower the crime rate, you saw the quote; you could practice abortion in very large numbers. You could do it in the black community; you could do it in other places. This is, by the way, the subject of a book for economics by a professor at Yale.

I said, however, if you were to practice that, widespread abortion in the black community or any other community, it would be ridiculous, impossible, and I appreciate you putting it on the screen, morally reprehensible. So I think morally reprehensible, when that is included in the quote makes it perfectly clear what my position is. A number of the people whom you have cited as condemning me have not made the inclusion of that remark, and so they make it seem, Alan, as if I am supporting such a monstrous idea, which of course I don't.

COLMES: Here's my concern. The root cause of crime, one would debate, it seems to be poverty. And from your remarks, I wonder if people might interpret it as saying the root cause of crime is race. And that debate about is it race is it poverty? What really is the root cause? And race affects people of all races and creeds and I think that's why...

BENNETT: Poverty. Poverty affects people of all races. Let me tell you what bothers me first, because I'm always candid with you. What bothers me is that last night on your radio show, you were all over me, Alan. And, you know, I was really surprised. You know me, you've known me for a long time and the fact that you would give credence to the notion that I would believe such a thing is very disturbing. I've had 1,000 opportunities when people have said to me what about that Alan Colmes, isn't he a jerk or a liberal this -- I've always said he's always a gentleman, he's nice to me. I run a radio show in which we don't yell at people, we don't make fun of them. We have liberals and conservatives and we deal with sensitive and important public policies issues and we do it in a responsible way. But people need to follow the argument and the argument I was making here is entirely plausible. The causes of crime are very complicated. But there is a very big literature, as you know, about single parenthood in crime, about race in crime, and about poverty in crime. And we've been talking about all these things lately in the context of New Orleans and other things.

COMES: Let me talk to you...

BENNETT: There are real things in the real world, and there are people who believe we should take such monstrous steps.

COLMES: Let me talk about what I said on my radio show.

BENNETT: I do not.

COLMES: Dr. Bennett -- Bill, because you know, I do consider you someone -- we've been good to each other. I like you. I think you respect me.

BENNETT: Yes sir.

COLMES: I was really shocked.

BENNETT: Have been.

COLMES: And I plaid what you said and the whole context of what you said. Frankly, I was just shocked by it. I don't believe you're a racist. I don't think that you believe those things. I was just shocked by what I heard and I -- basically there was a lot of callers calling up and commenting on it after I played your comments. And a lot of other people were shocked that you would have -- in the context you said it, say the things you said.

BENNETT: Well, you know, to put forward a hypothesis, a morally impossible hypothesis to show why it is morally impossible and reprehensible seems to me is a standard way of talking about public policy and a standard way of teaching. You know, I've taught philosophy for years and one argues in the hypothetical all the time. People have said such outrageous things, Alan, about race and this is not unknown to our history. It's certainly not unknown to our history -- to the history of Europe, recently. It's not unknown to the history of Islam. And what we have -- you've got to be able to make an argument and say look, you may be thinking you're going to achieve some good end, but you can't use a monstrous means to do it. You know, this is like a Swift's modest proposal for people who remember their literature. You put things up in order to examine them. I put it up, examined it, and said that is ridiculous and impossible no matter who advances that idea.

COLMES: All right, we got -- Sean will be with you in the next segment. There are some statistics, you know, that talk about how African- Americans are treated disparagingly in the criminal justice and, you know, we could debate whether or not there really is a greater prejudice against African-Americans and whether they are incarcerated disproportionately.


COLMES: But look we got to take a break and we'll continue with you...

BENNETT: Those are big complicated questions...

COLMES: And later, there more political fallout on Capitol Hill today over the indictment of Congressman Tom Delay. We'll take you behind closed doors to one of the most powerful members in the House.

And then Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan, says the suffering of hurricane Katrina has actually brought black Americans together. Is he using the crisis for his own political gain? You don't want to miss this.

And FEMA made a hasty deal in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and it's costing taxpayers $236 million. We'll get to the bottom of this shocking story coming up on HANNITY COLMES, tonight.

(NEWSBREAK) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: And this is a FOX News Alert. You are looking live at the hills of southern California where wildfires are blazing out of control and are threatening to destroy private residences. We have 3,000 firefighters working at this hour to control the blaze, but as you can see from these live pictures, they're still burning pretty hot. We're gong to keep you updated throughout the hour. We'll bring you new pictures as we get them and let you know as this developes. We hope they can put that out. I was out in southern California in Hope Ranch when this happened. It is devastating.

Also coming up tonight, now that Tom Delay is out House majority leader, at least temporarily, will issue like immigration reforms, spending on the federal level will suffer. We're going to ask one of the men who is stepping into part of his leadership position.

And there is some late-breaking information tonight about the man who is prosecuting come to Tom Delay. Is it a publicity stunt for a movie being made about him? We'll tell you about this tonight.

First, we continue with the host of Morning in America. Bill Bennett is back with us.

Bill, first of all, I have known for you many, many years. I know your faith, I know your character, I know who you are. You're a former secretary of education, former drug czar. This notion that Bill Bennett as is being alleged by prominent democrats has any racist bone in his body is appalling to me.


HANNITY: And I'm glad to hear you say what you said here. I want you to respond to those democrats that are grandstanding, the same ones that had Robert Bird, the former Klansman as their leader. The ones that didn't speak out about Congressman Wrangle's Bull Connor remark.

BENNETT: Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's see, you got Kennedy. I will -- I'll not take instruction from Teddy Kennedy. A young woman likely drowned because of his negligence. I'll take no moral instruction with him. That's much worse than legal gambling what Teddy Kennedy did. He should make no judgments at all about people. He shouldn't be in the Senate. As far as racist and all this other stuff, I'll put my record up with Howard Dean, with Harry Reid.

When I was drug czar, you bet, we were working on the issue of black crime, Alan and Sean, because there was a lot of crime in the black community. And you know who most of the victims are? Their black people. Yeah, black violence -- black-on-black violence is very serious. I went to about 120 inner city communities. That's where the senate wanted me to go, that's where the Senate wanted me to go, that's where I wanted to go. We went after public housing and we went after the bad guys. And you know what? We got the bad guys. And drug use went down. And we raised the price and lowered the purity of cocaine. And we arrested four of the most powerful drug dealers in the world. And got a lot of these guys off the street. And I am very proud of that. Because when we went into the inner city black community, the people said to me, Mr. Czar, or Czar, or Mr. Benet, you get those people off the street and protect us. And we did our best to do it.

Before that, when I was secretary of education, I took on what I think is one of the great civil rights issues of our time, which is educational opportunity and educational choice. The stupid ghettoized curriculum we have, the fact that these black kids go to lousy schools and aren't allowed to choose the schools of their choice because they don't have the money and don't have the opportunity.

I've been at this for 25 years and I have been called everything in the book, but I will stay at what I do because I believe it.

Let me just tell you, when it comes to abortion, my wife's program, best friends, has kept more young women from having abortions because they don't get pregnant because they take her good counsel...

HANNITY: Let me...

BENNETT: Than the entire black caucus. She has done more for inner city black girls than the entire black caucus. So I will not bow my head to any of these people. I will not give up the ground of compassion and sympathy. But I'll tell you, we have real issues and we have got to talk about them candidly. And if you don't think there are people who are making draconian proposals about abortion and this and that and the other thing, you know, you don't know the nature...

HANNITY: Let me ask you this. I want to ask you about the nature of debate in this society.


HANNITY: I go back to the Bill Maher issue. I don't like -- I don't even like Bill Maher. We disagree on just about everything. But Bill Maher said one statement and his entire history of support in the military was cast aside and people focused on one thing. I said wait a minute, that's wrong. Here's Bill Bennett, here's Trent Lott. One statement, there's no room to apologize, explain, put into context, revise or extend one's remarks because people want to hop on it. We now see the democrats trying to do right now with you and trying to put you in a position of characterizing you, or categorizing you as something you are not. What does that tell you about debate and free speech in the country today?

BENNETT: It's bad. You know, if you could do an analysis -- it would be interesting to do an analysis. All day I've been reading reports and statements by people about me, Sean, and it's interesting, some use the whole quote and are fair, some don't. And that tells you something. But the problem, I think, on the liberal side, the democratic side is they attitudinize, they condemn but they don't have a program.

You know, the president -- I hope the president pays for this program in New Orleans, but he's got a program, and it's some interesting ideas about enterprise zones and school choice, and giving people opportunities, you know, with the loans and the green lining and they ought to be tried. Because these are ideas that might actually help the poor as opposed to maintaining the welfare state, which does not help poor people at all. It's destroyed a lot of families and it has created circumstances in which more poor people and more black people have had to suffer. What's lifted, the economic life and reduced crime in the black community has been hope and opportunity and education and enterprise.

HANNITY: Let me ask you one last question.

BENNETT: And that I think is much more, I have to tell you on this side of the aisle, I want to politicize this because there are good people on both sides.

HANNITY: Explain. I want you to explain, though, for people that see that one quote, that read that one quote, what do you say to them?

BENNETT: What I say to them, Sean, is if they were given the impression that I, you know, am in favor of such a horrible idea as, you know, my critics are suggesting, they need to look at the whole quote. I don't believe that. And I'm sorry that people have misrepresented my views so much that that has given folks that impression. You're right about a person's life. I've got a life, you know, take me in the totality of my actions and I'll tell you, I will stand with my record.

One must be very careful one gets into these arguments and we try to do it. But, you know, we try on this show to do serious and controversial issues. And it's a big country and it's a free country. We don't put liberals down. We don't put people down with whom we disagree. We talk about serious things in a serious way. And if you're not allowed to talk about these subjects, then it's not the country it's supposed to be.

You've got to be able to condemn these horrible ideas as I did.

HANNITY: Bill Bennett, appreciate you being on the program.

BENNETT: Thank you. Thank you guys.

HANNITY: Thank you very much.

And come upping next, Tom Delay will be fighting charges in court. So, you will be fighting for the GOP (SIC) in Congress. We'll talk to one republican leader next.

And who was the man going after the House majority leader, Tom Delay? We have late-breaking information tonight that he is allowing film makers to make a movie about him. Is this all part of a script? We'll give you the details. Much more to come.

Preferred spelling is apropos. Nitpicking typos
Distraction politics won't either and it is a crushing bore.
See message about spelling and superiority feeling inside sm
I do feel superior now when it comes to spelling and grammatical skills Shelly/Kendra. I also feel superior that my candidate won, while all along you two were saying he wouldn't. I feel very smart, very smart indeed. Good night MTs.
ROFL...don't make me call the spelling bee police....nm

I forgot: Study some English grammar and spelling..nm
oops - to the spelling police I meant family not famiy (nm)
Oh my. Spelled leery wrong. Forgive me O spelling police (nm)
whoops, typing too fast and made errors .. be 4 the spelling police get me
She said SOME or did you miss that? nm

Man!! I miss everything! nm

What did I miss? nm
Ya, then none of us would have to miss
That would just suck.
Did you miss something?
Yea, some moron found a you tube clip and her religion was an issue over and over ad nauseum in the media, of which I'm sure you paid attention to.

I have based my opinion on his background, not his color. He has a very very very questionable background, being brought up in Islamic faith. That's NOT a little thing. If you don't like the religious aspect of it, too bad. When Muslim belief says all who are not Muslim are to be killed, you better believe I pay attention. When I see one after another terrorist (even home grown) being his buddies, I'll pay attention and question why.

Dense and ignorant will ignore anything Muslim, because most liberals don't care about God anyway, but his real beliefs and upbringing that has been proven over and over again are a big concern for me.

You might open your eyes when or if he is in office and all those cabinet positions have to be filled and all you see are names you can't even pronounce, because they all have questionable citizenship to this country, questionable middle eastern relationships with those involved in terorrist organizations, etc.

Then you can wonder where this country is really going and maybe you'll have bigger fish to fry then.
No, I did not miss that -
I addressed that part when I said that people who would not pay taxes already do not pay taxes!

There are many, many people who never pay a penny into taxes and get $5000 to $6000 refunds every year for EIC. That is nothing new.
MAN what did I miss???
What'd I miss?
So I've been gone for a few days (almost a week I guess!)

Any good bits I need to check out? Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving! I think my eyes are orange from all the pumpkin pie I ate!!
So do I (miss sam)

I don't post very often anymore because of the same reasons. You're bashed constantly for your views. This is no longer a politics board as you said.

I'm at least willing to see what O does BUT, I caught a bit of his Phila. speech and he stated we need to change the Declaration of Independence. Huh? I hope I didn't hear that correctly.

I'm also sick of seeing all the garbage that's being pushed with his face on it, like he's some kind of God and how the whole world is going to tune into his inaugaration and celebrate. Saw where one woman in Kenya had a skirt on with his picture on it. It fit right over her butt. I got a kick out of that.

Yes, I miss her also...................nm
Try not to miss me too much...(sm)
Gone on vacation.  Hope you all (even the ones that hate me...lol) have a good week    . 
didn't miss anything....
but I want to know why we haven't heard more of cronie Rove?  I knew that would be shoved under the rug as they are wanting that scandal will go away.  That's why the "early" nomination of Roberts.  So see-through they stink!
I will miss Tim Russert. sm
Yup, you still miss the point...oh well....nm

Did I miss something important? AS is a pub gov
He ran under the pub ticket and was elected by Californian pubs and other star-struck Californians. Do you disagree with the idea that repulicans come in different flavors or should I be translating you message from Christian right-wing fringe-speak to mean roughly "my way or the highway" on what it means to be a REAL republican?
did you miss the part where
this lady had a B for Obama carved in her head by a black man (not that his race really matters, so lets not start calling me a racist). I doubt that it was Republical propaganda about Obama being a Muslim that caused such a thing and I find it offensive that everyone keeps talking about Palin's looks. Honestly, it's not as if she is really all that good looking, just better looking than Hillary. Might not be racism, but it is a bit of sexism. If this had been a black woman attacked by a McCain supporter, I still would not understand you stance, but at least it wouldn't be from out of nowhere.
Did I miss anything good?

Okay, I have been gone for 2-1/2 days.  My son graduated from boot camp this morning and I was at Fort Jackson - LOVE OUR SOLDIERS!!!! 

Don't really have time to go through all those days - but if there is something good I missed, point me there please?

Me too. I am not a democrat, but I think I miss
Did you miss this part? s/m

" She was fired early this year over personal expenses she had put on the group's credit card."

Nice try but no sale.

Are you kidding me...and miss all the fun?
I could do this until the polls open if need by, but I think you can get the general drift:
1. “I’m the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t.’” –Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor’s office without approval of the city council.
2. SP: RNC Convention: “I told the Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,’ on that Bridge to Nowhere.” who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.
3. SP: RNC: “We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity.” quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy would be assassinated
4. SP: “Absolutely. Yup, yup.” after being asked by People magazine if she was ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency
5. SP: July 2008: “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?” interview with CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co”
6. SP: "A Vice President has a really great job because not only are they there to support the President's agenda, they're like the team member--the team mate--to that president. But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to, they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better..." Palin told Denver's KUSA-TV on Monday,
7. August 2008: SP: “A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I’m not one though who would attribute it to being man-made.” dismissing global warming as influenced by human activity, Newsmax interview.
8. 09/09/2008: SP claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." Operated as private companies, not taxpayer funded. Fundamental ignorance of a key issue that will face the next administration.
9. 09/11/2008: SP: “They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.” –Sarah Palin, on her foreign policy insights into Russia, ABC News interview,
10. 09/11/2008: SP: “Perhaps so.” when asked if we may need to go to war with Russia because of the Georgia crisis, ABC News interview.
11. 09/11/2008: “I have not, and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you.” after being asked if she had never met a foreign head of state, despite the fact that every vice president in the last 32 years had met a foreign head of state prior to taking office, ABC News interview
12. 09/11/2008: “In what respect, Charlie?” after being asked if she agreed with the Bush Doctrine, ABC News interview
13. 09/11/2008: SP: “Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that’s with the energy independence that I’ve been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy.” –Sarah Palin, misstating the actual amount of energy produced by Alaska, which is only 3.5 percent,
14. 09/11/2008: “You’ll be there to defend the innocents from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans.” linking the Iraq war the 9/11 attacks while addressing U.S. soldiers shipping off to Iraq, Fairbanks, Alaska. Gee. And all this time we thought it was those WMDs.
15. 09/17/2008: SP: “Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where it’s not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first.” SP...billed by John McCain as the nation’s foremost expert on energy, clumsily answering a question while speaking off the cuff at a town hall meeting, Grand Rapids, Michigan.
16. 09/24/2008: “I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you.” When asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years.
17. 09/24/2008: "our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They’re in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia … We have trade missions back and forth. We– we do– it’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is– from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to– to our state.”when asked by Katie Couric how Alaska’s proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience.

Did you miss his credentials? sm
Schmitt, who grew up in Silver City and now lives in Albuquerque, has a science degree from the California Institute of Technology. He also studied geology at the University of Oslo in Norway and took a doctorate in geology from Harvard University in 1964.

I think a doctorate in geology does suffice.
Did you miss the point?
Without government interference, there would never have been subprime loans in the first place! The banks couldn't afford them!!! Now, that is correctness!
You really did miss my whole point entirely.
I didn't defend alcohol being legal. I said, in effect, "Do two wrongs make a right?"

I'm sorry you wasted all those keystrokes.
I did not miss your point at all
You either love all men as God teaches or you don't. I don't think God says to love them all - except for this group or that group. Nope, God says to love ALL men. There are no exceptions to that.
Swing and a miss...again...(sm)
It has always been a right for people to marry who they wish to marry.  Being gay does not make them any less of a person.