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Did I miss something important? AS is a pub gov

Posted By: who calls himself a pub...sm on 2008-10-19
In Reply to: I am a California Republican and I disagree! - Kendra

He ran under the pub ticket and was elected by Californian pubs and other star-struck Californians. Do you disagree with the idea that repulicans come in different flavors or should I be translating you message from Christian right-wing fringe-speak to mean roughly "my way or the highway" on what it means to be a REAL republican?


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    more important to you?
    Excuse me, more important to you than me?  No, it is more important to ME.  You are an onlooker, it is my blood.
    She said SOME or did you miss that? nm

    He has just never been that important to me.. nm
    nm
    Man!! I miss everything! nm

    What did I miss? nm
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    So are dad's not as important?

    Is this what you are suggesting because I do believe some of SP's children are older than Obama's and yet no one seems to be spatting about him leaving his children to run for president.  Of SP's 5 children....only 2 are younger....which is the same number of young children Obama has.  Yet it seems to be okay with everything that he just let Michelle Obama raise their children while he runs around the country to be prez.  Why is it not acceptable that Todd Palin take care of the two younger children while his wife tries to make this country better....including for her children.  Why....because Todd is the dad and he should be out working while SP stay at home cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids.........seriously....who time warped us back to the 50s?


    Oh I see....what was more important than ....
    the Katrina victims at that point? Looks like I need to go to the senate site and see what Biden and Obama felt was so important they had to vote for the bridge.

    People WERE suffering from Katrina and they had a chance to vote for it. They chose not to. Where does integrity come in? Where is country first, party second? What was so all-fired important they voted FOR a huge earmark for a bridge and against help for Katrina victims?

    As as for pork...it is added by BOTH parties and that is what McCain/Palin seek to stop. Plus earmarks for personal gain...like Obama earmarking a million bucks for his wive's employer...who had just that month DOUBLED her salary.

    Face it...Obama is old Washington politics, just like Biden is. There is no change there. Same old washington politics. He has demonstrated throughout his career. Yes, other politicians do it. That is exactly what I am talking about.

    It is time it stopped, and the only people who have ANY history of bucking their own party to do that are McCain/Palin. Now THERE is change you can believe in.
    Well, I think it is more important when the man...
    running on the ticket with you only a few months ago voiced the opinion that you were not qualified for the job...however...in a strict changing your story view, yes. Weighing the importance of the two issues (lipstick on a pig and your #2 saying you were not qualified for the job) is up to the reader.
    Ya, then none of us would have to miss
    That would just suck.
    Did you miss something?
    Yea, some moron found a you tube clip and her religion was an issue over and over ad nauseum in the media, of which I'm sure you paid attention to.

    I have based my opinion on his background, not his color. He has a very very very questionable background, being brought up in Islamic faith. That's NOT a little thing. If you don't like the religious aspect of it, too bad. When Muslim belief says all who are not Muslim are to be killed, you better believe I pay attention. When I see one after another terrorist (even home grown) being his buddies, I'll pay attention and question why.

    Dense and ignorant will ignore anything Muslim, because most liberals don't care about God anyway, but his real beliefs and upbringing that has been proven over and over again are a big concern for me.

    You might open your eyes when or if he is in office and all those cabinet positions have to be filled and all you see are names you can't even pronounce, because they all have questionable citizenship to this country, questionable middle eastern relationships with those involved in terorrist organizations, etc.

    Then you can wonder where this country is really going and maybe you'll have bigger fish to fry then.
    How is this not important?
    I know that, on the surface, it's really easy to write this off as a nonissue. But I would ask that, regardless of party, everyone stop for a moment and consider what it MEANS.

    It means that a make-up artist was more important to the McCain campaign than any other adviser or staff member. It's representative of shallowness and wasteful excess. It shows clear skewed judgment in what's important in our nation.

    And, frankly, it was clearly wasteful expenditure. Palin looked perfectly fine before the excessive celebrity life the campaign brought to her. There was no need for this. She's an attractive woman, and absolutely not in need of this Paris Hilton-esque extravagance.

    Why the campaign and RNC thought it would make her more "popular" is pretty head-scratching. Instead, they just made themselves look like, well, the type of people who aren't really "for" the middle class after all. The type of people who think style is more important than substance.

    Is it?
    No, I did not miss that -
    I addressed that part when I said that people who would not pay taxes already do not pay taxes!

    There are many, many people who never pay a penny into taxes and get $5000 to $6000 refunds every year for EIC. That is nothing new.
    MAN what did I miss???
    :(
    What'd I miss?
    So I've been gone for a few days (almost a week I guess!)

    Any good bits I need to check out? Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving! I think my eyes are orange from all the pumpkin pie I ate!!
    So do I (miss sam)

    I don't post very often anymore because of the same reasons. You're bashed constantly for your views. This is no longer a politics board as you said.


    I'm at least willing to see what O does BUT, I caught a bit of his Phila. speech and he stated we need to change the Declaration of Independence. Huh? I hope I didn't hear that correctly.


    I'm also sick of seeing all the garbage that's being pushed with his face on it, like he's some kind of God and how the whole world is going to tune into his inaugaration and celebrate. Saw where one woman in Kenya had a skirt on with his picture on it. It fit right over her butt. I got a kick out of that.


    Why this is important...(sm)

    If Bush is not tried for his crimes, it sets a precedence for successive abuse of power....even for Obama.  As a country, until we acknowledge and correct our shortcomings we cannot move forward.  What do you think the rest of the world will say if we don't do something about it?  We talk alot about justice and being fair, but until we can show that we are willing to uphold those ideals we are no better than the ones who would commit those crimes.


    The economy is the focus right now, and yes, it should be dealt with first and foremost, and that is being done.  But that is not to say that we cannot accomplish other things at the same time.  If they do go after Bush, all Obama has to do is step aside and not stop the preceedings.  This is all about the judicial branch of government, not the White House.


    Yes, I miss her also...................nm
    nm
    Try not to miss me too much...(sm)
    Gone on vacation.  Hope you all (even the ones that hate me...lol) have a good week    . 
    didn't miss anything....
    but I want to know why we haven't heard more of cronie Rove?  I knew that would be shoved under the rug as they are wanting that scandal will go away.  That's why the "early" nomination of Roberts.  So see-through they stink!
    Seems pretty important to me
    Well, if his trustee is saying Frist was updated regularly on his blind trust, I kind of think that is something.  It is a formal investigatinn by the SEC.  I kind of think that is something. 
    Yeah, you wish you were important enough
    for somebody to be spying on you....does your paranoia know no bounds?  
    BUt that's the most important thing to me....

    Unfortunately not all news sources are created equal and unbiased.


    As far as things changing over time.....it seems that things have to change as new information is brought to light.  Ask Colin Powell.  We have to adapt and change with this new information. 


    Can't find your quote from Russert to Cheney anywhere on the internet.


    As far as Tenet's slam-dunk comment, the people at that meeting were Bush, Cheney, and CIA-director John McLaughlin.....oh, and you.  Couldn't find any female names mentioned in that meeting, however.


    As far as the 747 fuselage in the desert....could only find a handful of references to it on the whole internet and none were compelling and again, most were from far right wing publications.


    I feel a story is only as truthful as its source and sometimes the truthfulness of a story can never be completely determined.  You say the source doesn't matter, I say it is EVERYTHING.  Reflect upon North Korea today, former communist Russia and China even today....all highly censored government news sources. Those folks will never get the real story and heaven knows it's hard enough to get it in a free country like the US.


    much too important to go unread

    brought up from below.


     


    It's long been a safe assumption that U.S. troops generally vote Republican. And with Vietnam war hero John McCain leading the GOP presidential ticket, many pundits expect the military to favor the Republicans with their wallets, too. But so far, Barack Obama appears to be leading his rival by a 6-to-1 margin in campaign contributions from deployed troops. The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics reports that Obama has collected just over $60,000 from deployed troops compared to McCain's $10,000 in figures up to June 30.


     


    I will miss Tim Russert. sm
    ,
    More importantly, why is it so important to YOU
    What are you so afraid is going to happen if some of us don't?
    Important issue

    Dealing with our enemies - I read an article and was going to post the link, but the article is positioned on the page odd and I had to scroll down to the bottom and words went off the screen so I cut and pasted some of it here.  If you still wish to see the article let me know and I'll provide a link..


    Obama is described as “eloquent and dazzling. In writing, he sounds like the candidate for class president pledging no more homework and free pizza”.  – (pretty good description I'd say)


    His position on Iran – “If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation”.  – That, that’ll show them.


    While other candidates have insisted that we should threaten to drop nuclear bombs on terrorist training camps, Obama believes that we must talk openly about nuclear weapons – because “the best way to keep America safe is not to threaten terrorists with nuclear weapons”.  Obama will secure all loose nuclear materials in the world within four years.  “This will deny terrorists the ability to steal or buy loose nuclear material”. – Does he really believe the most vicious people will be thwarted that easily?


    People should remember that no matter how eloquently offered it is not always for the better.


    You actually think it is more important for Obama...
    to keep campaigning than to go back to Washington and do his job as a United States Senator which he, by the way, still is and we are paying him for? Pullezzzeeee.
    Yup, you still miss the point...oh well....nm

    The most important issue.....

    this election is freedom. On November fourth we will determine which path our government will take, liberty or Marxism. I will choose liberty.


    McCain/Palin 2008 


    did you miss the part where
    this lady had a B for Obama carved in her head by a black man (not that his race really matters, so lets not start calling me a racist). I doubt that it was Republical propaganda about Obama being a Muslim that caused such a thing and I find it offensive that everyone keeps talking about Palin's looks. Honestly, it's not as if she is really all that good looking, just better looking than Hillary. Might not be racism, but it is a bit of sexism. If this had been a black woman attacked by a McCain supporter, I still would not understand you stance, but at least it wouldn't be from out of nowhere.
    Did I miss anything good?

    Okay, I have been gone for 2-1/2 days.  My son graduated from boot camp this morning and I was at Fort Jackson - LOVE OUR SOLDIERS!!!! 


    Don't really have time to go through all those days - but if there is something good I missed, point me there please?


    Me too. I am not a democrat, but I think I miss
    nm
    I guess I consider it to be more important
    to be well read and informed on the important issues rather than worrying about some trivial little geek-speak that you seem so well versed  in.  Congratulations, you win the petty award of the day!!
    Did you miss this part? s/m

    " She was fired early this year over personal expenses she had put on the group's credit card."


    Nice try but no sale.


    Are you kidding me...and miss all the fun?
    I could do this until the polls open if need by, but I think you can get the general drift:
    1. “I’m the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t.’” –Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor’s office without approval of the city council.
    2. SP: RNC Convention: “I told the Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,’ on that Bridge to Nowhere.” who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.
    3. SP: RNC: “We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity.” quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy would be assassinated
    4. SP: “Absolutely. Yup, yup.” after being asked by People magazine if she was ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency
    5. SP: July 2008: “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?” interview with CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co”
    6. SP: "A Vice President has a really great job because not only are they there to support the President's agenda, they're like the team member--the team mate--to that president. But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to, they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better..." Palin told Denver's KUSA-TV on Monday,
    7. August 2008: SP: “A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I’m not one though who would attribute it to being man-made.” dismissing global warming as influenced by human activity, Newsmax interview.
    8. 09/09/2008: SP claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." Operated as private companies, not taxpayer funded. Fundamental ignorance of a key issue that will face the next administration.
    9. 09/11/2008: SP: “They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.” –Sarah Palin, on her foreign policy insights into Russia, ABC News interview,
    10. 09/11/2008: SP: “Perhaps so.” when asked if we may need to go to war with Russia because of the Georgia crisis, ABC News interview.
    11. 09/11/2008: “I have not, and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you.” after being asked if she had never met a foreign head of state, despite the fact that every vice president in the last 32 years had met a foreign head of state prior to taking office, ABC News interview
    12. 09/11/2008: “In what respect, Charlie?” after being asked if she agreed with the Bush Doctrine, ABC News interview
    13. 09/11/2008: SP: “Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that’s with the energy independence that I’ve been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy.” –Sarah Palin, misstating the actual amount of energy produced by Alaska, which is only 3.5 percent,
    14. 09/11/2008: “You’ll be there to defend the innocents from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans.” linking the Iraq war the 9/11 attacks while addressing U.S. soldiers shipping off to Iraq, Fairbanks, Alaska. Gee. And all this time we thought it was those WMDs.
    15. 09/17/2008: SP: “Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where it’s not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first.” SP...billed by John McCain as the nation’s foremost expert on energy, clumsily answering a question while speaking off the cuff at a town hall meeting, Grand Rapids, Michigan.
    16. 09/24/2008: “I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you.” When asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years.
    17. 09/24/2008: "our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They’re in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia … We have trade missions back and forth. We– we do– it’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is– from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to– to our state.”when asked by Katie Couric how Alaska’s proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience.

    Believe it or not, the appearance is also very important..
    IN ADDITION to his fabulous qualifications.
    I recommend you to log off and take a rest.
    Thank you! There are so many actual important
    issues to be discussing rather than wasting time on their silly fairy tale while the economy crumbles.
    Why do you just ignore the important
    the gutter? Girl, you need to get a life! Oh, that's right, you said you did already. Transcribing 3500 lines a day, then the rest of a day stirring the pot on an internet forum just isn't my idea of a life.
    NOTHING is more important from a president than
    NM
    Did you miss his credentials? sm
    Schmitt, who grew up in Silver City and now lives in Albuquerque, has a science degree from the California Institute of Technology. He also studied geology at the University of Oslo in Norway and took a doctorate in geology from Harvard University in 1964.

    I think a doctorate in geology does suffice.
    Did you miss the point?
    Without government interference, there would never have been subprime loans in the first place! The banks couldn't afford them!!! Now, that is correctness!
    What's more important than the most vulnerable........
    nm
    The important question here is..
    You are rude and condescending. I hope it gives you back some little feeling of power that is obviously missing in your "real" life. I pity you.
    You really did miss my whole point entirely.
    I didn't defend alcohol being legal. I said, in effect, "Do two wrongs make a right?"

    I'm sorry you wasted all those keystrokes.
    I'm going with -- because they have more important things to do (nm)

    I did not miss your point at all
    You either love all men as God teaches or you don't. I don't think God says to love them all - except for this group or that group. Nope, God says to love ALL men. There are no exceptions to that.
    Swing and a miss...again...(sm)
    It has always been a right for people to marry who they wish to marry.  Being gay does not make them any less of a person.
    I guess I think it's important to know his history.
    In my case, that means a lot to me, even when people say things I agree with.  Besides, a famous man once said A litany of complaints is not a plan.  I believe most Americans want us out of Iraq.  I don't believe a precipitous withdrawal will be to the benefit of anyone.  None of us wants to see those men (not boys, as Phil says.  That's an insult to these men and women who are all enlisted voluntarily.) and women harmed.  The idealouge is definitely diametrically opposed.  Some mouthpieces are just better to hear it from than Phil Donahue.  As Bernard Goldberg said of Phil in 100 People Who are Screwing up America, Phil Donahue made the world safe for emotion masquerading as thought.  His first guest on his first show was Madalyn O'Hair (very appropo, since he is himself an atheist).  Bernard says in his book that his show was so fresh that no one stopped to realize how far, even for a liberal, his ideas were from the mainstream.  But mainly what he did, in show after show, year after year, was give tremendous exposure, and his own strong support, to the forces challenging traditional beliefs and behavior.  Phil was the champion of the it's not your fault, blame society way of thinking.  His shows centered around this way of thinking.  His virulent hatred for authority extended to anyone in positions of authority, including police, for whom he had an especial loathing.  Yes, we will have to agree to disagree.
    Bye Bye Miss American Pie..sigh..

    Hi, Anon!!  :o)


    I warned my republican friends..YIPES??  I have republican friends?  Yes, and three of them now have told me the war was wrong and Bush is frightening.


    Anyway, I warned my republican friends and everyone else that if Bush got in office the first time, the country would change drastically and he would destroy America and the world (okay maybe that was a little over the top..but not really)..I see us women going back to being bare foot and pregnant in the kitchen and the men coming home in loin cloths and billy clubs (umm..well, maybe that might be nice.smile)..


     


    There doesn't seem to be any objectivity here. However, more important
    there seems to be no concern for what is going on in our classrooms.  I am not talking about political bias, either. I am talking about WHAT THE TEACHER SAID.  It's been recorded.  There is no way to misinterpret it. I am AMAZED that anyone would defend it. But not surprised.  Thankfully, not all liberals are so close-minded.  And I AM thankful for that.  
    but in that 24 hours important information
    could get away. The NSA should be monitored, but 24 hours on wiretaps that need to be done right now is just not realistic for accurate intelligence gathering.

    When you dial into a phone line you've just given up your right to privacy. You are not guaranteed privacy on phone lines owned by private companies. There is no privacy contract of any sort when you dial a phone. That's where the disconnect lies. Pardon the pun.