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Anyone else forced to become an employee

Posted By: Michelle on 2007-10-26
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I'm an IC for Focus and got a letter this week that we have to become an employee instead of IC by the first of the year due to state regulations - anyone else heard of this? I want to know what these regulations are! I'm waiting to hear their explanation.

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This is IF they sold. But if they did, no one forced
So, when you are forced to work

on beyondtxt and you are forced to take a pay cut, and when you are sitting there with no work because the Indians are doing it cheaper, are you gonna come on this board and say how great it is?

You know, eventually when the Indians are doing 40% which is the goal for the *forseeable future,* they will probably hire the Indians to also be Team Leads at a lot less pay... Just some food for your happy thoughts.

So, when you are forced to work

on beyondtxt and you are forced to take a pay cut, and when you are sitting there with no work because the Indians are doing it cheaper, are you gonna come on this board and say how great it is?  Obviously the things that others are complaining about, you have zero knowledge of.

You know, eventually when the Indians are doing 40% which is the goal for the *forseeable future,* they will probably hire the Indians to also be Team Leads at a lot less pay... Just some food for your happy thoughts.


No one forced MDI to hire us. They shouldn't have
If one of mine forced me to choose between the two,
Companies where you aren't forced to do VR
Does anyone have a list?  I can't keep this up anymore since I changed to VR at the insistence of my company.  I have to do straight typing.  Please help.  I can't make my car loan this month.
Yes, they do. So sorry to have made an error and forced you to have (sm)
to take your time to correct those of us who are not perfect.

I think sooner or later MTs will be forced to grow
backbones, because as the pay for MT work edges ever closer to 0 cpl, there comes a point where the MT will leave altogether or turn around and start swinging both fists. For quite a long time now, I've believed that the truth is, MTSO's don't really WANT the more costly American MTs. The sooner they can drive us all out, the sooner they'll have the excuse they've been waiting for in order to be able to just pack up and take it all overseas. Companies who actually want to RETAIN good employees just don't treat them the way MTs are treated.
The MTs can't be forced to work over 40 hours in a week
unless paid OT pay. If the work is not getting done, maybe they need additional help on the account or MTs who can actually do the work in a reasonable time to stay in TAT.
forced to sign could = unemployment benefits
If you're being coerced into signing such as agreement in your current/ongoing job, you can file for unemployment in some states.  Only if you are asked to sign at the beginning of new employment is it OK and the employer explains that these documents will be an annual part of paperwork updates.  That's why they want us to reapply for the jobs we've had for quite a while--to get around the fact that we are not newbies but need to look on paper as if we are.  However, we haven't been formally dismissed from jobs we have now, in order to reapply to keep same job.  You also have to agree to a criminal background check and give them access to your credit bureau file, which is now for them.  Best of luck to all SPI, ex-SPI, and future SPI MTs.
Amen to that. If things don't improve, I'll be forced out, too (nm0
DARN STRAIGHT... and as soon as the Indians are forced to work weekends,

then I will.  I used to have plenty of work for my early morning shift and now none.  Why?  NOT BECAUSE THE CLIENT DOES NOT HAVE WORK AT THAT TIME......

BECAUSE THE INDIANS TOOK MY WORK.  They get to work days and have off nights and weekends becuase us PRIMMA DONNAS are here to suck hiney and say *I will do it cause the client needs it*

WAKE UP!!!!!!!  The world is laughing at you. 

P&G forced my sister to stop selling Mary Kay in her spare time...gotta SM!
This was years ago way before P&G even owned Revlon. It's not like my sister wore a white coat and created cosmetic formulas. She was a RECEPTIONIST!!! The Suits at P&G told her to make a choice because they didn't need an employee working for the competition...Give me a break!

BTW, the ONLY reason my sister even sold the MK was so she could get it 1/2 price.

Whatever you do on YOUR time is YOUR business!! (As long as no laws are being broken or ppl getting hurt)IMO
15 years ago, I charged .22 per line to big accounts. Now I have been forced down to .13 per line.
This is in part due to offshore companies, in part due to newbies coming in and underbidding to get an account but not being able to service it and then the account expecting everyone else to meet that price. The market is being driven down by many forces, and it is not pretty. I used to pay .14 per line (gross line too) and now pay my subs 0.08. It is not something I wanted to do, but something that was necessary. With only 15 MTs, I feel the squeeze more than some of the big companies out there, but cannot grow and keep up the same standards.

Healthcare in general is not the money-maker it once was, and transcription has taken a hard hit over the years.
Statuatory employee versus regular employee....
Can someone tell me the difference between a statuatory employee versus a regular employee?  My company offeres IC or SE status....I am confused about whether switching over the SE would benefit me more than IC status that I have been for some time with them?  What are the benefits and disadvantages of being an SE versus IC?  Thanks for all of your help!
They hire both IC and employee. I am an employee (see message)
and I have full benefits. I am very happy that I came to work here. I came as a statutory employee from a large company. Everyone at MDI has been great to me.
Depends on if you are employee or statutory employee (sm)
Employee, 8th and 23rd of month
Stat. Employee, 15th and 30th month
Diskriter - Anyone go from their employee to hospital employee with them?
Thinking about giving up on being their employee and applying for a hospital employee position through them, they have one in PA right now that looks good.  How is it for scheduling?  Do you keep your line rate or get whatever the hospital pays? Who manages those accounts, is it the same PM and DR that are on the other ones?  I have DR and feel like she doesn't have a clue what she is doing and it is so annoying, but I just don't have the guts to let the company know she needs to step it up a notch because the transcriptionists are not happy under her.  Are QA the same people or through the hospital.  They have 1 QA that is constantly asking us questions on doctors and format, things we should be asking that QA person.  Annoying that new people move up to QA but people who've been there 2 or 3 years get treated like dirt and jumped account to account.
Only employee and statutory employee..no IC
As an employee
I average about 8.5.  They have an incentive if you type 12,000 in a 2-week pay period and that's not too hard to do on their system.  Plus they pay higher on the weekends and at night (which I do on a split shift).  I also figure the benefits are worth it because they use United, which I like the coverage in my area.  All in all I am happy with them and I really like my team leader, that's a big plus to me.
Is this IC, SE, or employee?
Yes they do, also employee and PT
positions were available when I interviewed 6 months ago.
Every employee is different.
I have found OSi to be very flexible.  I personally do not work weekends.  We are required to work holidays if they fall on your normally scheduled days; although, getting paid at 5 cpl extra.  You can also request holidays off, which has never been a problem for me.  I have never been denied on a request.
IC vs Employee
You will pay more taxes as an IC because of SSI, whereas as an employee, you do not (your employer pays half of SSI.)
You said you are an employee? Where?
Where are these 4 companies that pay $8K a quarter for bonuses?!?! Please, do tell!!

And provide enough work for you alone to do that much work?!?! Please, do share!!
When you are an employee, do you
If so, you are better off being an employee. Otherwise, the so-called self-employment tax cuts heavily into your earned income credit. It did for me at least, without having made a huge amount of self-employment income.
You can owe as an employee also

If you filled out your W9 form and put down for 10 dependents you would also owe or if your marital status changed or your deductions changed.  All I am saying is that people think that because their employer is taking their taxes out for them they are not paying their own taxes.   When you handle your own money, you just have to be structured enough to take out what an employer takes out.   See your paycheck before and after taxes and see the percentage you are paying.  When you get a tax refund that is YOUR money that the government has had for a year.   You just underpaid.  You can also overpay as a business owner or an IC and get a refund.   But with the amount of deductions I have, I will never go back to an employee full-time as I would lose another 20% to the government and not ready to give that over.

employee or IC.
IC or employee?
I just checked their website and it states they only hire employees? It is possible to be an IC with them?
Yes, you can be IC or employee, nm
Their platform is very productive and they offer full benefits to full-time employees. For that they do expect you to work an employee schedule as they try to have the coverage issues worked out. There have been some growing pains with work flow, but my experience has been they have been resolved quickly and certainly nothing chronic. They do not pay for spaces but I took that into account negotiating the line rate. The efficient platform and getting paid for headers also helps offset the spaces issue for me.
Is this as an IC, or are you an employee? nm
They must be as I don't do employee (nm)
Sorry.. Employee, soon to be EX, at MDI-FL..

Definitely need to clarify that.

Pay for IC vs. employee

I'm interested to learn the average difference in pay between IC and employee--such as, if as an IC I earn 9 cpl (65 char with spaces), as a regular employee what would be the equivalent?  I'm guessing about 2 cpl less, so it would be 7 cpl as an employee.  I don't need insurance though.

Thank you in advance!


IC vs employee
An employer generally pays about 20% in benefits and overhead for each employee which includes medical insurance, paid vacation, income taxes, 401K, equipment, fringe bennies.   So yes, in the example you gave it would equate to about 0.2 cpl.
Employee only. nm
Are you and employee or IC? (nm)
An employee. nm
Really? I am a former employee of one of those
companies and I know one of them do.
are you an employee? sm
if so they are bound to take out state taxes. If you are an IC, of course not. Oh-- and by the way-- you would have to pay your state taxes yourself anyway :)
P.S. And, yes, I was an employee.

And yes, taxes are ultimately the responsibility of the employee, but most legitimate companies withdraw taxes from the employee's paycheck.  I found it difficult enough just paying my regular bills with the very low rate of pay this company offered, and it was impossible for me to also put aside extra money to pay for the taxes they refused to take out.

One of the reasons I decided to accept employment with them was because I belieevd of all the hype about them being best employer, etc., and I refused to listen to all the little warning signs that frequently popped up in my brain.  I won't ever do that again.

Not the OP, but is she is an employee, sm

why shouldn't she get paid for downtime?  If you worked at Burger King and no customers came in for an hour, yet you were required to be ready to service the customers, wouldn't you expect to be paid?  JMHO

Now, if she is IC, she's out of luck.

Are u an employee or IC? nm
I am an employee
I have written a demand for payment and have not worked since not receiving my check.

Any advice on who one contacts regarding those in the legal end to contact would be most helpful if anyone knows this info.

IC vs Employee

I know this subject has been broached before... but, how can a company seek an IC, and then assign work each day and expect you to put in X amount of hours, etc.  I don't understand this...  I was under the assumption that as an independent contractor, you work when you want.  You are providing the company with a service, you are not their slave and do not have to answer to them at a certain time of day.  IC means work is done and returned in the manner the IC sees fit.  When asked part-time or full-time, what is the answer when you are an IC?  Anyone else having this trouble?  I would love to hear from you...   

I also do not see how a company can put you at edit status, and then never give feedback on blanks, etc.  How do you ever get out of editing?  Is it the IC's job to ask about blanks when you are already receiving a smaller pay rate to be in editing and trying to make some money while learning a new account. 

Are you looking for employee or IC

CIT employee
I presently work for CIT and wouldn't work anywhere else.  There definitely is work out there to be done--almost too much work.  Bottom line is that I firmly believe your job is what you make it.  If you think it's too tough and can't be done, then guess what... It will be too tough for you and you won't be able to do it.  In regards to ESL dictators... I look at it as job security.  They are not going to change or go away, so my goal is to learn to master them.  Any good Transcriptionist knows that a short-cut program is the way to go--work smarter, not harder.  At least our platform offers you one if you do not have one of your own and it is very easy to learn to use.  I presently use my own, SPEEDTYPE, with my own standards for the dictators.  As for communication, if there is a breakdown in communication--maybe all parties involved are not communicating with mutual respect??  Basically I don't expect my boss to have to contact me unless it is necessary.  I was given what was expected and am allowed to accomplish it without having anyone breathing down my neck, but help is there if I ask for it.  As for a small company, yes, we are at this point.  Sam Walton didn't start Walmart with a boatload of people, each with one single specialized job, but a few very multitalented people who were flexible and able and willing to do what was needed in order to get the job done.  Look at the number employed there now--YEARS later.  My point is we are growing--fast.  Bottom line though, is that there is no job that is perfect for everyone, so you need to find your niche in life, determine your goals and what YOU are willing to do to accomplish them, and you may be surprised how your dream job could be exactly where you are today.   
Are you an employee
Are you an IC or employee? nm

I am not now, nor have ever been an employee, but

I was offered a position by them within the last 6 months.  The recruiter was so busy I.M. people during the interview that she couldn't keep a train of thought and I was distracted.  I felt red flag #1.  I'v heard from many people that you're questions go unanswered, despite the fact that management seems to I.M. each other all day long.  The recruiter told me about this account that was fabulous and there was rarely an opening  because the MTs loved it and there just wasn't any turnover.   She also denied offshoring.  She put me in touch with the team leader for this wonderful account and it was an account that I had worked on with another company and it was a horrible account.  The TL said it was a horrible account and they could never keep MTs on it.   The TL also told me that they indeed did offshore and not only that, but they offshored the good work and left the crap here.  

I just felt like I couldn't trust them and turned them down.  Their pay scale is based on lots of things.  There is a base pay, then extra for so many years of experience, extra for 2nd and 3rd shifts, extra if you have CMT, etc.  I can't remember what their benefits were like.