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I emailed and asked. Said it was 65-character line with spaces or black and white.

Posted By: quietmoods on 2005-12-28
In Reply to: Question, what does 65 character B/W line mean? I'm not sure what the B/W is??(nm) - quietmoods

clear as mud.


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I would think that black and WHITE means they pay for both black characters and spaces.
There is no such thing as a white character. But I would definitely clarify this in your interview.
mean black character on white paper
also called virtual black character or VBC. Spaces not paid for. Never do it. This is just horrible.
Definitely is spaces include, black and white.
Indeed it is.
It means characters that are printed in black and white - no spaces included. nm
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Visible black character spaces
I work for a company that only pays VBC and let me tell you it takes forever to get that line count. In my opinion that space bar does not move by itself. Getting cheated but I need the job.
visible black character (VBC) spaces not counted SM

I just ran across this as bit long article but it is worth saving to your PC and reading a bit at a time.  I recall posting that Probity used this, I posted this meant NO SPACES and somebody came back and said they do pay for them. Boy they are really really making extensive calculation, guess always have and we did not know it.


Last year, KLAS reported that the industry appeared to be moving towards a standard


pricing model based on visual black characters (VBC), especially given the joint announcement from AHIMA and MTIA endorsing the adoption of VBC. The vision was for the VBC to be used to develop service level agreements, benchmark internal


transcription performance, foster better business relationships with the MTSOs, and improve the tools for evaluating and selecting MTSO partners. However, based on this body of research, adoption of this standard has been slow and billing per line is still the predominant approach.


 http://www.californiahia.org/Content/ul/8694//Kivi_Dale_Transcriptions_New_Standards.pdf


 


VBC - visible black character - no spaces, returns,
It reduces your pay by about 30%, because you still have to hit the spacebar and return even though you are not paid for it. 
Cquence pay is 65-character with NO spaces, only black characters which equates to
approximately 1.5 to 2 cents per line less than 65-character with spaces.
Ask what is a line. I was offered 6 clp for a 42 black character line sm
that seemed to strange, but really it was not so bad.  Came out pretty close to a 65 k/s line at 8.5 to 9.
37-character line without spaces much better...SM

Hi!  I just checked an OP note I did yesterday.  Characters with spaces was 5935.  I get paid on a 65-character line with spaces, so that came out to 91.3 lines.


Characters without spaces was 4999.  So, if you divide that by 37, you get 135.1 lines.


In the first scenario, I would get paid $8.22.


In the second scenario, I would get paid $12.16. (If both pay the same per line...9 cents in this example).


So, you would definitely do better to accept the 37-character line withOUT spaces! :)


Chickadee


it sounds like a 55-character line without spaces
 
Yes they do; 65-character line, spaces included NM

TransHealth pays for spaces & headers on a 65 character line. sm
I recommend them highly.  Stable company, good platform, great benefits.  I'm happy there.
Black and white. nm

black and white?

I understand what you are saying about transcription being black and white, but I have to disagree.  While transcription itself is pretty straight forward, there are many different fields that require the same service. 


To say that someone with no medical transcription experience does not need additional training does not make sense to me.  I have dealt soley with psych. transcription and won't fool myself into thinking that once I've done one area, I've done it all. 


If you go to websites of top online companies, they specifically say that any other transcription experience outside of MT does not apply towards years of experience required for employment and my conversations with them have confirmed that. 


I appreciate all of you who have given me honest, useful and valid information.  It will definitely influence my decision! thanks again!


Black AND white (sm)
Doesn't that mean white (or spaces) are paid for?
Black and white characters

I worked for a company that used the DQS software and I never could get my line counts, even though I typed like a fiend! In an 8-hour shift, I could get maybe 800 to 900 lines with that program. The way my company said, is Black and White characters, which means no spaces.  I didn't get any credit for the ADT screens either.


Hope this helps.


I don't think so. What you see on paper or on the screen in black and white.
If it were me, I certainly would ask specifically the HR person or MTSO. Pick up the phone, dial their number, and ask. Never take a job, unless you know how and what you are getting paid for.

I do believe it means without spaces, but I could be wrong. Things change so fast in this industry, what it means one day, does not necessarily have the same definition tomorrow.
That doesn't explain black and white lines.

If not employed there we can't as a supervisor, but if the recruiter says black and white lines wouldn't that be just the black characters on a white page?  No spaces.


Visual black character perhaps
You might want to check to see if they have switched to no spaces and are paying the VBC method. That could account for such a drastic cut. It would not be surprising to me at all. I am always more than appalled when companies do this on their own without notification or at client request without feeling the need to inform the MTs. Do they think that we do not notice that we are working harder than previously for less?
VBC= virtual black character link

a bit hard to understand but those out there are sure using the calculators.  This was on the internet and note this VBC listed on a job listing.on MTStars.  Not only have to provide expensive Lanier equip and provide free long distance to their clients but lower line pay.  See how they keep lowering their business client cost. and pass it on to the MT


 


Posted By: K&R Consulting, Inc on 2009-06-30

We currently have several fulltime positions available for acute care MTs with a minimum of 3 years exp and exp with ESL.

Equipment required - Dictaphone or compatible Cphone and unlimited long distance.

Start dates of 8/10 and 8/18 available.

Pay is 9 cents on a 65 VBC line.

Please send resume to resumes@knrconsult.com i


Wouldn't the white mean spaces? nm
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Probity also. "Black on white" means no spaces
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black characters=without spaces.
nm
65 character lines with spaces
I don't think so. You're going to do a lot of typing to get all those lines. They don't pay spaces, no way!
But if they are saying per character are they including spaces?
I'd ask if a space = a character.  ;)
Prior post said it's so-so to use, but only counts the black chars., no spaces. nm
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7 cpl character with spaces....EMDAT sucks...sm
Not worth the hassle of filling in demo info manually spending inordinate amount of time searching patient lists that are 3 or more pages long....YUCK
Thanks for the info! Do you *feel* like you make more with a gross line v. character line? (nm)

Could someone help me with the figuring out of gross line versus character line? sm
I have generally been paid by character line, 65-character line.  Now, I have had job opportunities offering to pay gross line but it like 3 cents cheaper than what I am being paid now.  A few places I have read that gross line is MUCH better, but is it much better if the pay is so much lower?  Please explain how it works or equals out.  This position has offered me 6 cents per gross line - what would that equal out to in character lines?  Thanks...so confused...
I haven't gotten a response to the ONE should-be simple question I emailed and asked. (m)
I also wondered if anyone thought about the contracts we signed last year and if you felt that was related to this. I personally feel it did, felt like it was preparing them for something, to be protected. It says they can change our pay at-will pretty much though.
Paid for 55 char black line...
Can anyone tell me if they get paid this way instead of the 65 w/ spaces? If anyone else does, can you tell me roughly the difference it makes versus getting paid for spaces?

Thanks
A gross line is any line that has a character on it, so even if

a line just has one character on it, it is considered a line.   If you are getting 6 cpl per gross that is approximately equal to 8 cpl based on 65 characters.  Sometimes the font on a gross line can make it be less than that though. 


The Above is for a 65-character line.
Sorry...I left that part out.  Thanks.
8.5 for 70 character line
That is what I thought.  The guy I talked to said this was the same as 9 cents per 65 character line or a little more.
It is not 65 character line. It probably would come out to 75-
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They also pay on a 55 character line rather than 65.
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When they say 62 character line or sm
68 character line, or 55 or 65. What is better for the MT? I am dense. Thanks.
55-character line
Is a program that measures on a 55-character line good or bad? Don't they generally do 65-character? I know this is dumb, but which is better?
If it is a 65 character line and being
counted by VBC, then soneone on another post said you cpl should go up 2 cents to equal out the difference in pay.
I asked and they don't pay spaces
A month ago I was looking for a company and over the phone was told by Webmedx that they do NOT pay for spaces. That averages about 20% less pay than being paid for spaces.
what is a 65 character-defined line?
what is a 65 character defined line?
Question, what does 65 character B/W line mean? I'm not sure what the B/W is??(nm)

Hmm, exactly what is a 65-character gross line?
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SoftScript's Character Line

I am interested in SoftScript's pay rate.


I heard they pay by a 65 character line? What do they use as their words per line rate?


I am working for a company who uses 8 words per line and am curious as to how this would compare to SoftScript? Any information would be helpful!


Thanks!


GROSS LINE VERSUS 65 CHARACTER
I am wondering which is better.  Is gross line better than 65 character line with spaces.  Thanks
I'm jealous! Is it gross line or 65 character? I am also
on an ER account with EXText but I cannot get near that. Any tips to share? I love working at Keystrokes but would love to get those kind of lines even more!
I just asked. We do get paid for spaces. If QA said that, they are wrong.
nm
Any math wizards out there that can help..Based on a 65 character line,

if you were not paid for spaces, what would 11 cpl (w/o) equal? It sounded good, but when I did the math it was lower than 8 cpl with spaces? I hope I'm not right.


Sorry I know people have asked this before but I couldnt remember answer.


 


depends on whether you need benefits. If not, go with 9 per 55 character line. more money. nm
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I'm confused. It says 09 cents per 65-character GROSS line. sm
What is a 65 character **gross** line??