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IC versus employee status

Posted By: MT+10 on 2006-01-04
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I am considering a job offer which will make me an employee after being IC status for the past 9 years.  This job is 2 cents/line lower than what I make as an IC.  I also have extra expense now with unlimited LD and equipment rental that I won't have as an employee.  I am concerned about dropping 2 cents/line, but without the headaches of dealing with taxes every year, it might be worth it.  Any thoughts from anyone who has gone from IC to employee?


Thanks!




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IC status versus employee
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9 cpl or better


Does NOT send work to India


Good accounts with at least 50/50 of ESL versus American dictators


Consistent work flow - no downtime or time spent waiting for work


Upper management should be professional, positive, and encouraging.


Pay for lines WITH spaces.


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Thanks for any helpf.


IC versus Employee
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This is a muliple-part question--hoping someone here can help with some or all of them! 


1.  Does anyone have experience working for Shriners' Children's Hospital inhouse in Norcross, GA?  Many ESLs, how are working conditions, etc?


2.  I've been recently sent home from my small office practice (didn't volunteer!) and changed from transcription/med records clerk employee to IC; lost benefits. I think a little further on I'll have to get another inhouse job--remains to be seen if I can afford to live on this reduced income.  Does anyone have solutions regarding health insurance for self-employed, single people?  In my state an individual BCBS premium for someone my age is $300.00/month w/$250.00 deductible. (Yikes!)


3.  How to tweak my (hopefully) next interview to reflect that in my last job I was told basically I wasn't a good "fit" for the office, even though they were happy with my work quality and quantity?  In their opinion I didn't pitch in and answer phones quickly enough, schedule patients and take on copying duties cheerfully enough--in short, lacked a positive attitude, even though I DID do these extra duties politely. I'm nearly 60 years old--and don't do perky very well.  Should I just explain this last job didn't suit my skills and personality? 


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IC versus employee
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Google.com    IRS independent contractor guidelines (or some such other term). 


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http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/laborlaws/l/aa121800.htm


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I applied 2 months ago and checked the ad again on their website. The hours stink. SO, I'll go and see what they offer, but not sure. Hours, days are Monday, Thurs,Fri,Sat, Sun. 3 to 11:30 pm, then Sat and Sun 7am to 3:30pm. YUCK! I don't remember those hours from when I applied that long ago! Am curious to see what they offer though. Will post after I find out. Job is in Minnesota, Twin Cities metro, but will be home-based.
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No they are not IC. Employee status
and I believe 1,000 lines is FT. No pressure. Very easy going. Not sure of benefits yet. Not sure if you can be IC or not.

I am FT and plan to stay FT and can easily do 1,000 but struggle with 1,2000 because of lack of work and crap I am stuck with because of cherrypicking the work.

They pay less than I am making now and cannot really afford to go just yet.

Also they count spaces and headings for line count.

FT & PT - employee status - sm
I work for them too and love it there.  The specialties they are hiring for are probably Ortho and Onc.  Great place to work, nice people.  Very happy.
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Employee Status?
Do they offer regular employee status?
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and absolutely no benefits I don't care what state you live in. Horrible dictators, 90% ESL.....office staff is great, pay always on time and there is usually plenty of work.
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The TH QA is employee status.
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They have employee status as well.
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IC to employee status
Would appreciate any recommendations for companies to check out that offer IC or SE status with the option of becoming an employee with benefits if things work out. Been burned too many times to jump ship anymore without testing the waters first. Looking for acute care and/or radiology. Thanks.
my employee status seems to be different...
I get paid $21/h plus incentive. My employee status seems to be different from those below. We do not have to produce by line because we ACTUALLY get paid by the hour. Minimum is 75 minutes per 8-hour shift, 50 cents incentive (I wish it was more) after the 75 minutes. If there is no work, we still get paid $21/h. We are backed up by a union who renews/ratifies our contract every three years with the hospital. Of course, if we wanted to, we could figure out how many lines we actually type an hour but we don't need to. Our MTs used to work in the hospital before they sent us home to save money. I admit, because of this benefit, I slack every now and then to watch TV or do laundry knowing I get a set pay every two weeks, but in order for us to stay qualifed to work at home, we need to meet the minimal requirement of 75 productive minutes, which is actually not hard to do. With that said, if we say, lose electricity, we can use 1-hour downtime. After that, we have one hour to get to the office to continue our work.

We had an earthquake in Hawaii a couple of weeks ago resulting in total black out on all islands (Oahu 16 hours). Some of the MTs took PTO, some made up time on another day.
Employee Status
You might actually end up with a little more if you type the same number of lines/reports since you only have to pay half your taxes and FICA but remember then no deductions either.
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IC means different things to different companies.  I was an inhouse (employee) at a local company doing both rad and acute care, mainly rad.  Due to supervisor's pets not pulling their weight and management's refusal to hire help for growing accounts, me and one other coworker were stuck working all the time.  Every time I left the house for an errand, dinner, etc., and got on the computer, I had Yahoo instant messages waiting on me like ARE YOU THERE?,  Where are you?! We need your help! These jobs are out of turnaround time and Ms. X from ABC hospital is complaining!  Regardless of the fact I worked late, sometimes till 4 a.m., I was not appreciated.  I finally decided this was not worth 8 cents per line and left there.  Both as an employee and as an at-home IC, I was done dirty numerous times and had my pay docked once because another MT was sick and left me to do her (backed up) work.  Just because it was my weekend, when the account complained I was docked.  I started looking for another job that very hour.  


Sorry to ramble but my point is, it doesn't matter (from my experience anyway) what status you are, how you are treated and whether or not you are overworked depends on the company.   


Employee status
You are an employee when they pay your taxes, and then if you use their computer, they own you......
Employee vs. IC status
I agree with the not-so-great aspects of IC status...I'm single, what if I get disabled, or laid off, or any number of different scenarios...you have NO PROTECTION then...there is a reason all the labor unions battled for these kinds of worker protections! If you have got back up then maybe IC is a good thing...but if you are on your own...not so sure...
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If you are employee status, can you...sm
say what the benefits cost, time off, etc. is.   Thanks very much.
Employee status only
Have you read the MQ board?? Are you sure you want to do this?? 
I had always been employee status and had never been an SE or IC before.. (sm)

I did like the freedom of being able to basically set my own schedule.  But I was so used to having taxes taken out and having the benefits and realized after I took the job that I just wasn't going to make enough money to cover my own insurance policy. It was a great company. I think if it had been at a different point in my life it might have worked out.  But I had just left Medquist and was deeply in debt because all my accounts at MQ dried up and I was getting no work. I decided to go with Keystrokes then and I'm glad I did because they take out my taxes, I have benefits again AND they are very flexible. I know there are a lot of SE's and IC's that are very happy...it just wasn't for me at that particular time.


No ICs -- employee status only.
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Employee status only. nm
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All employee status
They are hiring for full-time status with great benefits.
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employee status
I sued the company which was national at the time along with 10 other MTs. Yes, the time sheets were altered but I had the originals which were not tainted. I sued them for OT and downtime and won along with the other MTs. It can be done and companies will stop doing this to people.
If you are employee status I'd think
maybe depending on your state and their temporary disability plan you'd possibly be covered under that.  In my state it's 6 weeks maternity allowed.  I worked right up until the end with my kids so I could use my entire 6 weeks postpartum.  If you have to leave earlier with your doctors approval you can actually have the 6 weeks increased. 
employee status...sm
I do not work for an MTSO as an employee. I was actually hired by the HOSPITAL (union, 5 months pto in a year, sick leave, etc). Work is slow today for us also, but we are still getting paid with time and 1/2. Maybe you should apply at an actual hospital?