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pot calling kettle black

Posted By: me on 2009-09-27
In Reply to: Geez!! - anon4now

Your whole post was a snipe! and who would want to work with you anyway?


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Looks like the pot calling the kettle black to me....sm
Obviously you have time to come here and check out the posts. Ever think other people might be the same way?
Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me!
Like we don't know of a BUNCH of absolutely whacked-out nutty MTSOs? And then the MTs that move from company to company are the ones off the deep end. I think you need a stand-up comedian side job! I'm over here LMAO! hahahahahahahahaha
Ever heard of the pot calling the kettle black?
Or are you too dense to get that reference as well? Here's a clue: there is NOTHING mature about your sour posts - slamming another for supposed 'immature behavior.'

You think you can separate out one comment in a 'gotcha' moment - and that somehow justifies your lectures?

What part of knee-jerk, simplistic judgmental commentary being unhelpful and unfair don't you get?

On second thought, make those rhetorical questions...because its crystal clear you thrive on (harsh) judgement of others who may be different from you - despite how ignorant that action makes you look.




Pot - Kettle - Black
Shelley,

Talk about bad business practices.

Your post is blatant example of the pot calling the kettle black. Just how marketable have you made yourself posting openly this gripe about your former employer you left months ago. Perhaps you may sway a few MTs from applying with D&L, but I bet your post instead turns many more prospective employers away from you.

Next time, think before you speak.

Anyhow, good luck to you.

Current D&L IC
- always paid in full and on time.


Pot-kettle-black
What's true is true, and I can't change that for you...however, it hasn't hurt my marketability in the least. Thank you so much for your concern.
Actually you fatcat are the pot calling the kettle

You see in another thread you called me a bully.  Now that you are doing the bullying, you are calling yourself helping.  Well isn't that like talking out of both sides of your mouth.


Oh, I guess you never thought your previous comments would come back to haunt you, but you were wrong, so wrong.


You need to stop acting so perfect and understand that this is a message board.  Sure, professionals read it, but even in the above post by a so-called MTSO teacher, there are errors. 


  Have a great day! 


I would think that black and WHITE means they pay for both black characters and spaces.
There is no such thing as a white character. But I would definitely clarify this in your interview.
Black and white. nm

Black Lists?

No, I don't believe there is such a thing. Then, do companies talk to each other about former employees? Yes, sometimes that happens. It's simply the course of doing business. It's called a network and often called checking your references.


As for recruiters not knowing each other, at any given AAMT meeting there will be 5 to 20 companies exhibiting, each with their recruiter there. Of course they get to know each other. It is, again, about networking.


I am curious, though. If MTs can create a blacklist for companies, what would be wrong with employers doing it??


black characters?
Sounds like no spaces counted to me.
black and white?

I understand what you are saying about transcription being black and white, but I have to disagree.  While transcription itself is pretty straight forward, there are many different fields that require the same service. 


To say that someone with no medical transcription experience does not need additional training does not make sense to me.  I have dealt soley with psych. transcription and won't fool myself into thinking that once I've done one area, I've done it all. 


If you go to websites of top online companies, they specifically say that any other transcription experience outside of MT does not apply towards years of experience required for employment and my conversations with them have confirmed that. 


I appreciate all of you who have given me honest, useful and valid information.  It will definitely influence my decision! thanks again!


Are you sure it's not 55 visible black
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Have you checked outside, there might be a black
Why care who reads what, if you're telling the truth it makes no difference.  Management might take the time to read this site (as if they have nothing better to do) for entertainment but give them more credit for intelligence than to base any management or company decision making issues on anything said on a board like this.  If you say nothing on here you wouldn't be afraid to say to management, then who cares what they see/read.  If management is particularly bad or corrupt, etc., they don't care if you know it because they've already figured out a way around what they're doing.  Now go close all your blinds and cower in the corner and wait for them to come busting through the door.   
Black AND white (sm)
Doesn't that mean white (or spaces) are paid for?
Black and white characters

I worked for a company that used the DQS software and I never could get my line counts, even though I typed like a fiend! In an 8-hour shift, I could get maybe 800 to 900 lines with that program. The way my company said, is Black and White characters, which means no spaces.  I didn't get any credit for the ADT screens either.


Hope this helps.


I was black listed because I refused a job with TRS
Then, I was told they called the other company I as going back to and I would not be allowed to go back there either. Lucky for me, I had 2 jobs already.
black characters=without spaces.
nm
Visual black character perhaps
You might want to check to see if they have switched to no spaces and are paying the VBC method. That could account for such a drastic cut. It would not be surprising to me at all. I am always more than appalled when companies do this on their own without notification or at client request without feeling the need to inform the MTs. Do they think that we do not notice that we are working harder than previously for less?
Yoo hoo! Black Swan! I'm 60 yrs old. I just want to retire.
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Visible black characters help!?!?!?
So I'm trying and cannot figure out for the life of me how to compute what a proper rate would be once the switch goes over to visible black characters. I want to get this figured out, so that when the call or email comes about my adjusted line rate, I can either accept it or not.

Does anyone know, at a line rate of 8 cpl right now, what an equal VBC line rate would be? Is there any way to figure this out?

And does this mean we can stop the double spacing? I mean, if it won't affect the company's pay (because apparently they only bill on visible black characters), it's more in keeping with the new standard of only one space after periods and whatnot.
I don't think so. What you see on paper or on the screen in black and white.
If it were me, I certainly would ask specifically the HR person or MTSO. Pick up the phone, dial their number, and ask. Never take a job, unless you know how and what you are getting paid for.

I do believe it means without spaces, but I could be wrong. Things change so fast in this industry, what it means one day, does not necessarily have the same definition tomorrow.
Definitely is spaces include, black and white.
Indeed it is.
Anyone know first-hand about a black list shared by
nm
Paid for 55 char black line...
Can anyone tell me if they get paid this way instead of the 65 w/ spaces? If anyone else does, can you tell me roughly the difference it makes versus getting paid for spaces?

Thanks
Visible black character spaces
I work for a company that only pays VBC and let me tell you it takes forever to get that line count. In my opinion that space bar does not move by itself. Getting cheated but I need the job.
VBC= virtual black character link

a bit hard to understand but those out there are sure using the calculators.  This was on the internet and note this VBC listed on a job listing.on MTStars.  Not only have to provide expensive Lanier equip and provide free long distance to their clients but lower line pay.  See how they keep lowering their business client cost. and pass it on to the MT


 


Posted By: K&R Consulting, Inc on 2009-06-30

We currently have several fulltime positions available for acute care MTs with a minimum of 3 years exp and exp with ESL.

Equipment required - Dictaphone or compatible Cphone and unlimited long distance.

Start dates of 8/10 and 8/18 available.

Pay is 9 cents on a 65 VBC line.

Please send resume to resumes@knrconsult.com i


mean black character on white paper
also called virtual black character or VBC. Spaces not paid for. Never do it. This is just horrible.
If there was a such thing, the black list for MT's would be miles longer than sm
that of MTSO's. I would love to see most of the MT's I have dealt with even begin to do what I do. Most don't have the social skills, personalities or work ethic to be good employees, much less MTSO's.

NOT ALL, BUT MOST. If you all can generalize, so can we. The difference is that we don't talk petty BS to each other as MT's do on the boards. I, for one, am sick to death of the bashing that goes on here. If you spent more time working and less yapping, you might make more money and be good employees.
That doesn't explain black and white lines.

If not employed there we can't as a supervisor, but if the recruiter says black and white lines wouldn't that be just the black characters on a white page?  No spaces.


visible black character (VBC) spaces not counted SM

I just ran across this as bit long article but it is worth saving to your PC and reading a bit at a time.  I recall posting that Probity used this, I posted this meant NO SPACES and somebody came back and said they do pay for them. Boy they are really really making extensive calculation, guess always have and we did not know it.


Last year, KLAS reported that the industry appeared to be moving towards a standard


pricing model based on visual black characters (VBC), especially given the joint announcement from AHIMA and MTIA endorsing the adoption of VBC. The vision was for the VBC to be used to develop service level agreements, benchmark internal


transcription performance, foster better business relationships with the MTSOs, and improve the tools for evaluating and selecting MTSO partners. However, based on this body of research, adoption of this standard has been slow and billing per line is still the predominant approach.


 http://www.californiahia.org/Content/ul/8694//Kivi_Dale_Transcriptions_New_Standards.pdf


 


agree. Skim the black dots, no biggie. nm
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VBC - visible black character - no spaces, returns,
It reduces your pay by about 30%, because you still have to hit the spacebar and return even though you are not paid for it. 
Really offensive, what black people will only work for the bottom of the barrel?

should be ashamed



I agree. And black list or no, intelligent people take information
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Cquence pay is 65-character with NO spaces, only black characters which equates to
approximately 1.5 to 2 cents per line less than 65-character with spaces.
Prior post said it's so-so to use, but only counts the black chars., no spaces. nm
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1 poster from last year said it was okay, not great, not awful. BUT it only counts the black
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It means characters that are printed in black and white - no spaces included. nm
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I emailed and asked. Said it was 65-character line with spaces or black and white.
clear as mud.
CALLING ALL NEW MQ MTs

What incentives were you hired at? If you are an SE, were you told you get quarterly bonuses?  PLEASE REPLY!


Just keep calling (sm)
Don't be nervous. Same thing happened to me. They are spread pretty thin there, with people wearing a number of hats. They don't really have one person who does only recruiting that I'm aware of, unlike the other companies, hence the disconnect in getting back with people.
Have you tried calling them?

 /


Calling on ICs

I have always been a FT employee for a national ...I understand IC status but very unfamiliar w/companies hiring IC status....Any advice on ICing greatly appreciated and good/bad companies....How is money doing Rad as compared to hospital basic 4...?


Thank you


keep calling
630-553-3680 I played phone tag for quite awhile before I finally got to talk to the recruiter. I believe they must be really busy hiring these days.
No name-calling, please. (sm)
We all have to get along on this board. If you don't care for what someone is posting, you can disagree but you cannot use foul names or vulgar references.

First off an MD would not be calling HR to
talk about an MT.  They have a contact and if they had a problem with the work of an MT they would call their contact, not HR. 
Have you tried calling them???
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Why would you be calling yourself sm
Newer TTer if you've been there for 3 years?  Probably forgot to change the name field, didn't you?  I smell someone trying to be more than 1 person here.
you are calling her smug?

I think it's quite smug that you assume because you state you were allowed to have a flexible shift that this statement will automatically allow Transcend management to know who you are!  So, you were the only one treated special?  Well, you don't work there anymore so all should be fair now!


Also, I knew coming into the job that Transcend had 300 or so employees and was not as big as Spheris.  Who cares?  Also, I think the fact that you pointed out, about how numbers of MTs post positive comments about Transcend, I think that definitely speaks as to the health of the company.  If we were posting negative comments, everyone would be ready and more than willing to accept those posts as an indication of how the company is functioning.  It seems that the bad is always more spicer and acceptable than the good. 


As far as blanket statements go, that is exactly what was going on with the unhappy poster.  They were blanket statements.  And as far as trying to "draw her out", you are absolutey correct.  I could care less who that poster is, I want to draw out the specifics of the allegations.  I want to understand what she is talking about and why.  If you are going to post something on here that is controversial, you had better be prepared to back it up, good or bad.  There is nothing wrong with expecting that out of someone, otherwise that poster's comments are chalked up to a disgruntled employee or bad seed. 


I also know that I am no one special at Transcend, but I have managed to be treated very well there since being hired.  I have been given everything that I need and have FINALLY found a company that I can trust.  It is quite easy to get on here and post positive things about a company, placing your name beside it.  You are right about that.  However, I have worked for Keystrokes and Spheris and have posted many times complaints about each and have posted my name.  Why is that? Because I believe in what I stand for and if I feel that I am not being heard or treated fairly, I am not ashamed or afraid to stand up for what I need.  Sure there may be repercussions in that, but I am willing to accept that.  What some people don't realize, though, is that there are also repercussions in anonymity in that you never get anything changed.


CALLING ALL MEDWARE MTs

Considering this company, could some people give me their average pay an hour, etc.  Tx


?? Why the name calling? Deal with it..
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