ASPIRIN will kill a dog

• Anybody with a dog with seizures? - someone here might have some experience
  • Seizures in dogs. sm - GoGranny
  • Seizures are fairly common in Springers. - Me
  • Do a search on this here - big discussion:-) - This was discussed here:-)
  • My in-laws have a dog who has seizures... - SM
    • Just FYI on in-laws dog taking aspirin - SM
    • All about dogs and aspirin - sm
    • ASPIRIN will kill a dog - sirpercy
      • ASPIRIN DOES NOT KILL A DOG - Patti
        • Tylenol (acetaminophen) is dangerous, not aspirin - TeriD
        • It all depends on the dose and how often given. An occasional - IT MOST CERTAINLY WILL
          • Seizures, aspirin and dog demise - TeriD
          • Disagree on aspirin - Patti
            • Reminds me of a lady allergic to a certain fish, well - Jan

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Worked for a vet, have a 16 year old dog on two aspirin a day.  Works better than the expensive NSAID's.  My dog had seizures also.  Don't know why this has become so much more prominent lately but has.   My dog is part chow/lab mix.  She began with the seizures after being on prednisone -- I say that had something to do with it -- they do not.  Very bad seizures.  Age 6.   Had her on medication - not phenobarb but something else that a dog neurologist said to put her on.  She took it for almost a year - no seizures, slowly tapered her off of it and she did  have little ones now and then -- 2 to 3 a year but over the past 7 years has not had one to my knowledge.  She is 16 and quite healthy, except for being quite deaf, hip dysplasiad and arthritis and takes aspirin for it.  I am sure her end is near but we still walk a mile a day and she chases her friend our cat every now and then.  But her birthday is Valentine's Day -- was actually born on that day and she will be 16.   Go on line and read about seizures.  A neighbor has a chow that just had hsi first one -- age 4 to 5 also.  So it is more common than one would expect.   Good luck.  Actually the visit to the dog neurologist was cheaper than my regular vet and he spent a lot of time with us.  So it was well worth the money.   Patti

You didn't say if you and your GF live near each other.  If so I would venture a guess that it is arthritis and both dogs have it.  Before all the anti-inflammatory drugs like ibuprofen, etc. came out they used to give people aspirin for arthritis as common practice.  So my guess would be it is helping the inflammation/pain and thus they are acting fine. 

Keep in mind that dogs will not show their pain until they are really in alot of pain.  It is the animal inistinct that pain shows weakness and in the animal world it gives the impression of not being able to defend themselves.  So just because they are acting like nothing is wrong does not mean that they are fine, it could be that the severe pain they were experiencing is less now.  I would certainly follow-up with the Vet.

Okay, here's my offering of a summary.  In answer to the initial question, yes dogs can have seizures.  I had a dog that had them for several years. Extremely scary, but they basically didn't harm him. He shook and was stiff for about a minute, then was fine afterwards.  The vet didn't see a need to do testing, and I agreed, as he was already 9 or 10 years old at the time, and he lived another 5 years after that.  (The dog, not the vet, ha!) Of course other owners and other vets might decide to do testing and such.  As for the aspirin debate, I will now agree with the person who says aspirin can kill a dog.  A dog given small doses of aspirin every day of its life will indeed die - most likely in anywhere between 13 and 17 years!  Let's lighten up, everybody! 

Patti is right - aspirin can safely be given to dogs.  It's Tylenol (acetaminophen) that is dangerous to give to dogs, and I believe also to cats. (Anyone with doubts, please call the nearest veterinarian, but I know several vets have told me so, I've had probably 20 dogs in my life,  and though I love cats, I'm allergic to them )  The animal livers can't handle Tylenol like human livers (and it's also very dangerous to our livers in overdoses)   Chocolate is also bad for dogs, by the way. 

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My sister's first dog was an AKC standard American Eskimo she got from a no-kill shelter.  He was supposed to be a show dog, but wasn't *perfect*, so his original owner considered him a worthless mouth to feed and left him at the shelter.  For my sister's family, he was a beautiful and loving pet for many years.  You will pay for the necessary shots and probably to have your pet *fixed* as well as perhaps a bit of a mark-up to support the shelter, but you will have a healthy pet, and you will get the one you see.

My sister's current dog is an AKC Pomeranian she got from a Pomeranian rescue organization.  Again, she got a beautiful and loving dog.  His original owner had decided that he was just too much trouble.  If I remember correctly, the rescue service had pictures of available pets on their Internet website.  Again, there was a good-sized fee to cover having him checked out by a vet and *fixed* with again probably a bit of a mark-up to support the organization.  She had to drive a ways downstate to get him - they would not just ship him.

My sister considered the fees reasonable.  As she says, it's a reminder that this is a living creature whose life has value, not a toy to be played with for awhile and then discarded.  I hope you will be as fortunate as my sister has been in whatever way you find your pet.

You have to be careful what is in the candles. I don't burn them with birds around.  Self-cleaning ovens will also immediately kill birds, as will a Teflon-coated pan that overheats.  Also be careful with home permanent solutions, room deodorizers, and DO NOT USE FEBREZE (yes, I am shouting because so many people use this and it is a KILLER for birds).  Just be careful with any of these types of things.  Birds are ultra sensative to inhalants.  Better not to use them at all. 

Regarding the eggs, if you remove them she will just lay more before she's had a proper rest and that will deplete her of calcium. While she's sitting on her eggs, her body is rebuiding for the next clutch.  Try to find things that resemble the eggs in size and color, like marbles, beads, etc.  Put them in place of the eggs.  Don't let her see you doing this.  Warm them in your hands first (NOT HOT) and sneak them in one at a time when she's not looking.  She should sit on them and you can pitch the eggs.  But let her sit until SHE abandons them so that she maintains proper calcium.

Also, if the eggs aren't fertile, there is no problem in letting her sit on them.  Take them out and hold them up to a light, like a light bulb or a flashlight, and look into the egg.  If you see red lines or a solid dark mass, you've got babies.  If you see just space and yolk, you've got a dud.  She can sit on duds and get her rest and you won't have to worry about babies.  Not all eggs are duds, though.  You have to look at each one.  Date them lightly in PENCIL and then you can tell when you last looked and keep checking until you're sure they are duds. 

Keep plenty of cuttlebone around for her calcium and sprinkle baby bird handfeeding formula on her food to give her extra supplements for the egg laying whether duds or not.  It's good for her.  Even if you don't want babies, her body needs to be replenished with this stuff to keep her healthy. This is a good treat anytime for a bird. 

I'm sorry to hear about your experience with babies before.  Many times the youngest die in the next because the larger ones get on top of them and they don't get the food. Finches are tricky.  I'm crazy about them but they do need careful watching.  Parrots are SO much easier to raise!!!  Guess you don't want to suggest that to your kids, though LOL!!! 

Feel free to e-mail if you have questions!

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