Seizures in dogs. sm
Posted By: GoGranny on 2007-02-09
In Reply to: Anybody with a dog with seizures? - someone here might have some experience
It really varies. My chihuahua sustained a brain injury at the age of 4 (baseball); and she started having seizures. They were terrible. They only lasted about 5 minutes but felt like hours. I finally got a vet to put her on phenobarbital and she never had another seizure the rest of her life. The vet said some dogs respond, others do not. As mentioned, she had brain injury and vet was skeptical, but it worked for us. Good luck.
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Seizures in dogs. Anyone have experience with sm
this? My poor little Cocker-he's 1-1/2 has been having seizures for about the last 6 months. The first time was last summer, around June. He stiffened up, weak on one side, fell down, neck spasmed literally all the way to the side for probably less than a minute and then he was fine. We didn't see anymore for about 3 months and boom, another just like the first. Then he had a couple of staring spells. I called the vet and he said to just observe and see if it happened again. Well, all was well for another 2 months and then he had the shivering episodes, 2 in 3 weeks that I observed. He would fall down and shiver real bad, not know anyone, unable to walk and this lasted for about 1-2 minutes. Then he was fine. I called the vet again and he said to "observe" for now. Today, he had another just like the first only it lasted for close to 3-5 minutes and it took him about another 15 minutes before he totally came out of it and was able to walk. In all of these seizures, his pupils were just huge-as big as the iris itself. I'm going to call the vet back on Tuesday again. What I want to know is, I wonder if it would be wise if I firmly asked the vet to please put this poor dog on antiseizure medication even if he wants to just "observe" again? Do they grow out of this or does it get worse? He told me that he prefers to wait before using medication as they sometimes outgrow it, but I don't think it is going to happen. He doesn't bite and is not incontinent during these episodes. He doesn't bite his tongue either. They aren't the classic grand mal seizures. I had a dog when I was young who had the classic grand mal and these aren't like that. My concern, and this is what I told him, is how many seizures is the poor little guy having that we haven't seen? I mean, I'm with him all day, but he sleeps by himself at night (on the couch-he's so neglected) and then there is his playtime in the fenced in yard. Any suggestions? I'll check back later or you can email me. Thanks!
Shelties or Australian Sheep Dogs are great family dogs. rm
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My dog had seizures too,
He had them from around 10 weeks old and for the rest of his life, but not very often because my vet put him on phenobarbitol tabs. I had to give them to him twice a day, but it was worth it. He died two years or so later, but I think he ate something that killed him, it wasn't a seizure. My vet only observed him for 24 hours before putting him on the meds, he did bloodwork to make sure that was what was happening. Good luck, give your doggy a hug for me!!
Anybody with a dog with seizures?
Do they run tests to determine if it's indeed seizures or what? Katie, our springer, has been having what appears to be mild seizures. They only last a couple of seconds and she's not out of it when it happens. She's due for her shots so I'm gonna ask about it but thought someone here might have some experience.
Seizures have many causes
A dog I adopted from a local shelter, who had been a stray and was skeletally thin (14 pounds), had seizures which the vet said was probably due to malnutrition. In the beginning, the only thing he could keep down was baby food (ground meat). After a couple of weeks, I started mixing the baby food with regular dog food and soon he was able to handle a regular dog food diet. When he finally got to his normal weight, he was almost 40 pounds!
His seizures took the form of shaking, like some dogs do when they are frightened. Phenobarbital helped to keep them to a minimum, but he still had them. All we could do was hold him and talk soothingly to him until the seizure was over.
He was the sweetest dog....I miss him so much.
My in-laws have a dog who has seizures...
This dog seems to being having grand mal seizures because it urinates on itself and they last a least a minute. The dog has had this several times but they haven't taken him to the vet because of the cost involved. My mother-in-law gives him an aspirin and puts "cold packs" on him when he is seizing. I'm not sure why but she is a little strange. I would take the dog to a vet. They can probably do test to see if she is indeed having seizures. Good luck!
My poor old doggy had seizures
and died from one. He went to the vet that day and she put him on medication. I called her and told her he was having more seizures and she said to double his medication. That night, he had a seizure and did not come out of it and died staring at me. I felt so helpless that I could not do anything to help him. I loved him so much.
Now I have another doed that is only 2-1/2 and he is having seizures about 1 every 3 months. He gets very scared and I have to comfort him. He wines and gets under my feet, can't stand up, drools, shivers and goes stiff.
Update on my poochie with seizures sm
He had another last night right before I went to bed. Of course I couldn't sleep all night worrying about him. I called the vet promptly at 8 a.m. this morning and we are starting him on phenobarb 1/2 grain twice a day for starters. I sure hope this brings it under control. I felt so bad for the poor little guy. Otherwise today, he is great. Thanks for all the support. 
Seizures, aspirin and dog demise
Okay, here's my offering of a summary. In answer to the initial question, yes dogs can have seizures. I had a dog that had them for several years. Extremely scary, but they basically didn't harm him. He shook and was stiff for about a minute, then was fine afterwards. The vet didn't see a need to do testing, and I agreed, as he was already 9 or 10 years old at the time, and he lived another 5 years after that. (The dog, not the vet, ha!) Of course other owners and other vets might decide to do testing and such. As for the aspirin debate, I will now agree with the person who says aspirin can kill a dog. A dog given small doses of aspirin every day of its life will indeed die - most likely in anywhere between 13 and 17 years! Let's lighten up, everybody! 
Poor thing, with seizures and all.
Some cats don't care about mice. I have two. LIke I said in the other posting, one loves to catch mice. The other one? Well, I've seen a mouse literally run right past his nose and he just didn't care.
These dogs appear to be puppy mill producing dogs.
The two females, which I thought were older, appear to be just worn out/depleted. Their teeth are those of a 3-5 year old dog. So, I do believe they have had litters each cycle and are suffering from malnourishment.
Funny thing, yesterday, they were covered with mud (it rained and they were digging) and this morning, I look out and see they have all been grooming as they are clean.
Called Love of Animals who has committed to spaying/neutering the animals, giving them their shots, flea repellant and showing them at Pets Mart on Sundays. In a few months, there will be a regional dog show at the local college where on average 150 dogs are adopted out and she asked that I keep them until then.
Which I will...And a girl saw the ad for the Lost Pets and is looking for a replacement for her Shi Tzu she lost a year ago and will come by tomorrow morning.
My husky Cara had seizures, she was never on medication though - sm
She only had them about every 18 months or so, granted I don't know if she had others when I was at work during the day, at night she slept in our bed with us. I believe the seizures contributed to the shortening her life though. She died days after her 8th birthday (cancer) in 2003. She never bit her tongue either, and the seizure was a few minutes and then after 15 or so minutes she started to get back to normal, but she would usually sleep for a long time after having a seizure. Since your dog's seizures seem to be getting worse I would opt for the medication. If you vet gives you a hard time then you might want to think about going to a different vet. Good luck.
My friend's cocker spaniel had seizures too. SM
The vet claimed it was due to emotional issues, seperation from her, if she traveled, etc. He lived to be 15, though. Is it unique to spaniels?
My daughter's cat also had seizures. It is very traumatic to watch it. She would call me up crying because the cat was seizing. The vet said rare in cats, but he put the cat on phenobarb, which daughter got from regular drug store. Very funny seeing prescription from Walgreens with Sgt. Pepper on it.
I reallly assume it is more traumatic to watch, than actually a danger to pet, because daughter's cat is 17.
Seizures are fairly common in Springers.
But what is the age of onset? Usually if age of onset is after 5 years, it is something other than epilepsy. But in a very young dog, it probably is epilepsy. A friend of mine has a Australian shepherd (named Major) that was having multiple grand mal seizures a day. Medicine helped, but what made a big difference for her was changing the dog's food to Canidae. Of course it's not in place of medication, but the dog went from multiple seizures a day before medication to 1 seizure a week with medication (may have had to add a second med, not sure), but then changing to Canidae improved him to 1 seizure in 6 months! She also has a Pembroke corgi (named Minor) who alerts them to each seizure before it hits their Australian shepherd.
She named her dogs Major and Minor - what a nut. :oD
Dog owners - recognizing partial seizures
After losing Misha to a brain tumor, I decided to post this to help others with dogs (sorry cat lovers - I did not research cats). Seizures beginning when a dog is young are almost always due to epilepsy, and it is very treatable. Unfortunately, seizures that begin when a dog is 5 or older is almost always either a brain tumor or some sort of serious infection in the brain. Either way, recognizing it early will help you have the confidence to insist on early treatment for the comfort and health of your pet.
Everybody knows the signs of a tonic-clonic seizure, but subtler seizures can confuse even vets. Know the signs of even focal/partial seizures:
http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/CanineEpil.htm
I have my dogs on it, and yes all my past dogs but 2 have died -sm
from cancer. But I had 2 schipperkes on Frontline for years and one died at 13 from cancer, the other at 16 just from old age/kidney failure. My last husky was 8 when she died from cancer, but I have had one die at 2 (unknown causes), and another at 9.5 from liver cancer (she actually made a nice recovery but succumbed about 6 months later), but huskies don't tend to live past 10 unfortunately. I have had purebreeds and mutts, and with or w/o Frontline/Advantage they have all died from cancer. I suppose it is possible that it causes it, but if you live long enough, cancer will most likely be your cause of death, anything and everything causes cancer anymore. I hate fleas and ticks and we have lots of them, so the dogs get the Frontline except in the cold winter months. They are 6 and 3 and both doing quite well.
And dogs don't bite right? Love my dogs but I
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my dogs are basically indoor dogs sm
but have a doggie door to go in and out as they please. Sometimes our Jack Russell gets excited and barks inside the house. My DH grabs is belt and snaps it and the loud noise shuts her up right away. I am not trying to frighten our dog, but many times just saying knock it off doesn't work.
he's not a loser because he has seizures, he's a loser because
we have to pay an exterminator to keep away the mice. He doesn't like to be petted. He pees and poops on things when he has seizures. I'm not saying he is a loser because he has seizures but because he pees and poops on things and the other things I mentioned. If he was your cat, I'm sure you would just kick him to the curb.
Where dogs came from (sm)
A newly discovered chapter in the Book of Genesis has provided the answer to 'Where do pets come from?'
Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, you walked with us every day. Now we do not see you any more. We are lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much you love us.'
And God said, I will create a companion for you that will be with you and who will be a reflection of my love for you, so that you will love me even when you cannot see me. Regardless of how selfish or childish or unlovable you may be, this new companion will accept you as you are and will love you as I do, in spite of yourselves.'
And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve.
And it was a good animal.
And God was pleased.
And the new animal was pleased to be with Adam and Eve and he wagged his tail.
And Adam said, 'Lord, I have already named all the animals in the Kingdom and I cannot think of a name for this new animal.'
And God said, ' I have created this new animal to be a reflection of my love for you, his name will be a reflection of my own name, and you will call him DOG.'
And Dog lived with Adam and Eve and was a companion to them and loved them.
And they were comforted.
And God was pleased.
And Dog was content and wagged his tail.
After a while, it came to pass that an angel came to the Lord and said, 'Lord, Adam and Eve have become filled with pride. They strut and preen like peacocks and they believe they are worthy of adoration. Dog has indeed taught them that they are loved, but perhaps too well.'
And God said, I will create for them a companion who will be with them and who will see them as they are. The companion will remind them of their limitations, so they will know that they are not always worthy of adoration.'
And God created CAT to be a companion to Adam and Eve.
And Cat would not obey them. And when Adam and Eve gazed into Cat's eyes, they were reminded that they were not the supreme beings.
And Adam and Eve learned humility.
And they were greatly improved.
And God was pleased
And Dog was happy.
And Cat didn't give a hoot one way or the other.
dogs
I love that - this year, my niece's huge yellow Lab grabbed a pie off the dessert table. Needless to say, nephew put the dog outside. We all thought it was funny - niece did not!
dogs
What breed are your dogs? The darker one looks like she has Boxer markings, but I have never seen one like the blond. Reminds me of a G.S. Beautiful dogs, no matter what they are!!
Oh and he's not alone. He has 2 other dogs with him.
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Outside dogs (sm)
Outside we have a Boykin Spaniel (you can get these sometimes from rescue centers, Google if interested) and we have a mixed breed - Basenji and probably lab. Both have plenty of fur but not too much and love to be outdoors.
hot dogs....
kosher and nonkosher to cover all your bases.
I only like ketchup but you know there are those that want everything, so ketchup, mustard, mayo(yuck), relish, onions, chili?
hot dogs and brats...cover all your bases.....same on toppings...EVERYTHING!
If you have the space, fries are great when it's cooler weather.
Can/bottled drinks probably the best best. Less space, more drink for the buck anyway.
dogs
Uggg. I feel for you. At least the dog isn't being abused but I understand your frustration.
BTW you get the little icon thingies when you click "post reply to this message". They should be right underneath the message box and just click on the ones you want. Don't click "quick reply" because then they don't pop up. 
dogs
as a child, we had a rat terrior, irish setter and german shepherd - and daddy always had beagles.
as an adult, we have had a german shepherd, beagle, toy fox terrior, cocker spaniel, collie, border collie and right now we have a corgi and a chocolate lab.
Dogs
Since I was a little kid, Dad has always had dogs. I remember we had a black lab, a brittney spaniel, a toy poodle (wretched dog), a German short-hair, and 2 mutts. He and Mom now have another black lab. My sheltie, Casey, just died this summer. Now I have 4 cats. The last one (a calico kitten) got dropped off (we live on a farm and it happens all the time!) the week after my dog died and just suckered me in.
I have two dogs
They love me and are all over me every chance they get. Most dogs love me. The dog next door will look at my kitchen window and if she sees me, she will wag her tail and bark until I come out and pet her.
I am horribly afraid of German Shepherds. I got bit near my eye by one. My BIL has 2 of these dogs and they can tell I don't like them. But they just avoid me.
Now my friend who lives about a mile from me has a small dog and that dog hates me with a passion. It gets so upset and snarly when it even hears my van. I refuse to go in her house until that thing is caged. Am I bad person? I don't think so. Funny thing, I drive past her house to pick my girls up from school. They have a couch in front of a big window and every day when it is time for me to go by, that dog gets up on the couch and when I drive by it freaks.
I have 3 dogs
My newest addition is a dauchshound puppy. I got her back in March (or maybe April - can't remember). Anyway, she is now 9 months old and all puppy. She is relentless with my other 2 dogs, especially my little Maltese who is 7 years old. Just runs around her, nipping at her tail, and racing away. I know she's playing but it's NOT a game to my little white furball. And she doesn't quit! So, when you have had this situation, how do you stop it? How do I get this puppy to understand that she needs to stop this behavior? Other then this annoying habit of hers, she's a wonderful, funny, loving little girl!
Dogs!!
do you have a picture of yours? My dogs are the sweetest things, but they are DEFINITELY barkers if they hear anything outside and I agree with you, people can break in, but if they hear those dogs barkin, they are PROBABLY gonna turn right around and go somewhere else!!!
dogs
Boston terriors are great with kids and a great family dog.
Are the dogs okay if they don't see each other?
Years ago when I lived in Detroit and we had chain link fences, there was a nylon type of material that you could get to weave in and out of the chain links in the fence. Sort of like the stuff that the old style folding outdoor chairs were made of. It gave you privacy in terms of not being able to see on the other side, but you could still hear everything. Would the dogs still go nuts if they could hear and smell each other, but not see each other?
The nylon in the fence is old school and not necessarily pretty, but it might work.
I have 2 dogs........... sm
and my Chow, Butch, will not let "Old Yeller" eat. He chases him off. Butch is an older dog and rather grumpy to Old Yeller, so my son has started bringing Old Yeller inside the utility room so he can get a decent meal. I don't keep food out at all times because my dogs are outside dogs, but if you have a self-feeder or keep food out all the time, sounds like the distance between the bowls is a good idea.
We also take the dogs with us sometimes - sm
depends on where we are going and what we are doing. We do a lot of camping and boating, so this one place we go to and rent a cabin allows animals so we do take them there sometimes. Usually it is just easier to leave them home, plus downsized our truck from a Suburban to a Trailblazer so unless we put everything in the boat, there is no room in the car/truck for the dogs, lab and extra-large husky. (or we only take the lab, but I feel bad when we do that!)
I am doing all I can for the dogs....sm
I am using my gas to go back and forth to their house to make sure the dogs are eating and get to go out, etc. I love dogs but I have 2 inside to care for, 1 out in a fenced in yard that I out of the goodness of my heart because I am a succer for dogs rescued and I put her in my back fenced in yard and take care of her. Then I have my husbands beagles I take care of while he is gone out of town working. I have approximately 13 dogs to care for on a daily basis. Only 3 of them are mine. I think I am a pretty nice person to take the responsibility of cleaning the beagles pens everyday and feeding them and giving them attention. FIve of them belong to my husband and five belong to a friend of his. I do all this for all these dogs because I love them. With caring for so many dogs already I think it is kind of rude of them to even ask me to take there 2 dogs too and take care of them. When they asked I did show reluctance and said I dont know. Then finally I said I guess. I think they should board their dogs at the vets or pay a sitter, etc. I have 2 dogs in the house. I have never tried to pawn my dogs off on other people. If I knew someone genuinely did not mind it would be different but they had to see the hesitancy I had to begin with. They do this all the time. They are frequently asking for somone to keep their dogs. Well about a year ago I told them I would no longer be able to keep their 2 dogs because I have 2 in the house and 2 more is too many inside. So then they started getting her brother and his wife to keep them. I guess they got tired of it and stopped keeping them cause then they started boarding them. Well that costs money so they are back to asking me. Well I will not keep them anymore for 2 reasons.
1. The dogs are not well behaved dogs. They act like wild animals in the house.
2. One of them is not properly house trained and will pee in the floor or poop.
3. I have 2 dogs already and 4 in the house is too much.
As for my dog not being neutered he is in his own house. I didn't ask them to bring their dogs over here and my husband specifically asked is she in heat. My female is spayed. If they are going to be leaving the dog frequently they need to have her spayed so they don't have this problem. As for me I will not keep them anymore even if she was spayed simply because the dogs are like wild animals.
Great dogs...sm
The little weiners are one of the best dogs. Great personalities. The only thing negative is when puppies they chew on everything! We had just remodeling our house when we got a puppy. I lost a new comforter and a specially made quilt in one room, two new pillows in another and some chewed up table legs and rocker. She also ate her bed! They do outgrow this though. Unfortunately, we lost "Shelly" to a hit and run while my son was in the hospital. I do plan to get another one some day.
No hot dogs either! Nope.
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All about dogs and aspirin
Aspirin has the same problems in dogs that it has in people. It can cause gastrointestinal upsets and ulcers if the GI signs are ignored. It can cause renal failure if overdosed. It causes an increase in clotting time. This usually isn't a serious side effect but it does occur. Despite these shortcomings it has a lot of beneficial effects and it is inexpensive. The currently recommended dosage of aspirin varies a little from publication to publication but it is between 5 and 15mg/lb every 12 hours. Since there is a range I usually pick the middle of it and go for about 10mg/lb every 12 hours. This works well and seems to be pretty safe. That works out to an aspirin tablet per 32 pounds of body weight twice a day. I have to admit that I rarely advise giving more than 2 aspirin twice a day despite the fact that some big dogs could obviously take more based on the per pound calculation.
I don't believe this. Dogs are not *wild*--sm
animals with denning instincts. they were meant to be every bit as free as humans were. As far as I am concerned, ALL animals, not just dogs, are *furry people* with a whole lot more loyalty, compassion, understanding of nature, and caring than a lot of people I know. They should be treated with respect, just as much as humans, because they were *created* just as much as humans were. If a human cannot or will not take the time to train the animal where it wants it to *do his business*, then that human should not have an animal as a pet at all. You would not treat your child this way, so why treat a pet this way? JMO.
dogs are better than people in most
instances. I have 3 and would never cage or kennel them. They are like my children and live where ever they choose to in the house. They have a specific place in the back yard for their "business" and have not had any accidents in the house because my husband and I have trained them properly. They are my best friends.
RATHER SHOP WITH DOGS
I am one of those st**pid women with little dogs and they are better company than someone like you, I am sure. They go where we go including nice hotels where they are welcome. No one has ever complained. They are clean and groomed, don't bark, and are gentle and loving. Stores cater to me because I spend money there. Are you? Or, are you just walking around looking? Maybe they don't cater to you because of your not so nice comments to their good customers.
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I would rather shop with dogs
than screaming kids!
dogs are domesticated
mammals. snakes are reptiles. I would not include the last in your series of comparing.
This trip has gone to the dogs! (nm)
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I can't say that's what dogs are suppose to do......
but they do tend to pack up when rambling around. We awoke about dawn one morning with a horrible sound and realized it was several dogs on a cat. We could tell the cat had a tail and our cats are bobtails, with the exception of our very old guy. We panicked and ran outside, thinking he may have gotten out the night before, even though he seldom ever goes out anymore. The dogs took off running and that poor cat was lucky to be alive. He was so disoriented and was in shock. I realized it was the neighbor's cat and called them. Unbelievably, the vet said he seemed okay and he is back out sitting in the driveway again. But people who let their dogs out at night to ramble so animal control can't get to them really ticks me off. Dogs, even nice ones, can get very mean when running in a pack.
Both of my dogs have been fixed sm
but our male still mounts the female (I told my daughter when she was younger they were danceing) and now the female dog mounts the male cat.
3 weird dogs
We have 3 dogs, one large, two small. The big dog is weird - he hides when he sees flashlight beams or hears electronic tones (like when the cell phone blows up) and it is so bad that he will knock over furniture trying to find a hiding place where he hunkers down and shakes and his paws sweat, so I guess these things really scare him. It is funny because he is huge and fearless most of the time.
The male small dog eats tomatoes right off the vine from the garden and likes to lick cast iron (antique sewing machine legs and a candle holder on my fireplace). He will lick these for hours. He eats great expensive food and takes vitamins too. So why???
The small female dog is a crack-up. She is one now and still acts like a puppy and carries her toys everywhere. She will for no reason run in small circles and then lie down flat on her stomach with her legs stretched out like superman flying. She sleeps lying on her back on a pillow like people do and snores like a freight train.
I guess you can tell that I love dogs! They are weird, but they are my babies.
Youtube fun dogs
This is what it's like to have 2 Siberian huskies. They aren't mine, but this is how mine were when young. Now I have snuggle bunny dogs that don't realize they are Siberians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKF0DpJ6tUs
Dogs and raisins....
I was just forwarded this from a friend....so sad. I really had no idea until recently the amount of foods that dogs can be sick from. I came across a list online and grapes were on it, so it makes sense that raisins are too. If anybody has it, please post it.
Written by:
Laurinda Morris, DVM
Danville Veterinary Clinic
Danville , Ohio
This week I had the first case in history of raisin toxicity ever seen at MedVet. My patient was a 56-pound, 5 yr old male neutered lab mix that ate half a canister of raisins sometime between 7:30 AM and 4:30 PM on Tuesday. He started with vomiting, diarrhea and shaking about 1AM on Wednesday but the owner didn't call my emergency service until 7AM.
I had heard somewhere about raisins AND grapes causing acute Renal failure but hadn't seen any formal paper on the subject. We had her bring the dog in immediately. In the meantime, I called the ER service at MedVet, and the doctor there was like me - had heard something about it, but.... Anyway, we contacted the ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Center and they said to give IV fluids at 1 ½ times maintenance and watch the kidney values for the next 48-72 hours.
The dog's BUN (blood urea nitrogen level) was already at 32 (normal less than 27) and creatinine over 5 (1.9 is the high end of normal). Both are monitors of kidney
function in the bloodstream. We placed an IV catheter and started the fluids. Rechecked the renal values at 5 PM and the BUN was over 40 and creatinine over 7 with no urine production after a liter of fluids. At the point I felt the dog was in acute renal failure and sent him on to MedVet for a urinary catheter to monitor urine output overnight as well as overnight care.
He started vomiting again overnight at MedVet and his renal values have continued to increase daily. He produced urine when given lasix as a diuretic. He was on 3 different anti-vomiting medications and they still couldn't control his vomiting. Today his urine output decreased again, his BUN was over 120, his creatinine was at 10, his phosphorus was very elevated and his blood pressure, which had been staying around 150, skyrocketed to 220.. He continued to vomit and the owners elected to
euthanize.
This is a very sad case - great dog, great owners who had no idea raisins could be a toxin. Please alert everyone you know who has a dog of this very serious risk. Poison control said as few as 7 raisins or grapes could be toxic. Many people I know give their dogs grapes or raisins as treats including our ex-handler's. Any exposure should give rise to immediate concern.
That is gross!!! My dogs do that too.
Then they come over and try to give you kisses, and they always aim for the lips of course. You think "awww, how cute, they love me", then you smell that smell and you know exactly what they've been eating - cat poo. It's just nasty. I don't see why they would want to eat that, but guess all dogs do it. We call them "cat cookies".
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