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Agree. Teachers of future generations should be better

Posted By: compensated and respected. nm on 2007-04-26
In Reply to: Not exactly the point of my post (OP) - just won 10 grand...sm

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does your future son-in-law sm

go to church each week.  If not is he getting questioned like your daughter.  I am Catholic and go to church every Sunday.  I know from hearing family members that a  priest will not marry you unless he has proof that you are going to Church each week.  The envelopes are the proof.  The priest does not want to marry you in the church just because your Catholic. So if your son in law does not go to Church he is at fault also.  My DD is getting to another Catholic next year. She became very relaxed about going to Church.  They registered back into the Church once they got engaged and waited six months before contacting the priest. 


Some of what you said seems like it is the priest and not the Catholic religion.  I would contact another Catholic priest and see if he feels the same.  The bad part is if your daughter is probably getting turned off by the Catholic religion before she gets started.  She will have to sign a paper promising she will raise her children Catholic.   My daughter told me that there is separate paper work to fill out if you are living together so most people do lie.  She does not live with her fiance.  Also after they get married in the Catholic Church and then stop going most priests will not baptize the children just for the sake of it if the parents are not going to take the children to church.  All this is really a shame because the Catholic church is turning a lot of people away.   Good luck and give us any updates. 


Think about future resale
I could only get preapproved for a mortgage on stick built homes.  No modulars, no manufactured, nothing that had "ever been on wheels or classified as such on the tax roles".  I had to pass up many good deals on great properties because my lender was adamant about stick built.  So keep in mind it may be harder to sell when that time comes.
This just in from my future contractor
"You friend is correct, but may be jumping the gun a little bit.

As I said before, I would avoid purchasing a NEW PC with XP. This does not make sense, especially if your current PC is working for you. Extended support for Windows XP systems will continue through 2014 at least and probably longer. So the timeframe for upgrading is quite long…

I would not upgrade a current PC (more than 2 years old) to Vista under any circumstances. With anything less than 2 Gig of RAM, the Vista OS slows to a crawl and many hardware vendors have not upgraded their drivers.

As far as a new machine goes, I would wait until the Vista SP1 (Service Pack 1) has had time to “soak” for a while before making any decision. It’s also MUCH better to change machines than trying to attempt an upgrade later (to Vista SPn for example).

Again, the other thing to consider is that not all vendors are currently ready to support Vista and the “compatibility mode” of Vista has been shown to be problematic.

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3. When considering the upgrade to Vista, plan a complete hardware upgrade as well.

If you would like to talk about this on the phone, feel free to contact me anytime. See this link http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/sp1.mspx for more information about Vista SP1.



Lack of help from future son-in-law

Please tell me if I'm overreacting.  I'm moving 60 miles away from where I'm now living next weekend for a new job at a big hospital in my hometown.  I'm excited but nervous also.  My daughter is getting married in November.  I only have about 3 rooms of furniture and a lot of it is already boxed and in a storage room.  I asked my daughter if "Bruce," her fiance, and his buddies could help move me, as I am single, with no father, brothers or friends who are able-bodied any longer (I'm 50+).  She asked him and grudgingly he said something to the effect that he could, but we would have load the truck the night before and he would have to be finished up before noon the next day, and his friend would help for $200(!).  The last straw was he told my daughter to tell me not to expect to have boxes, furniture placed or set up, because he HAD to get to the "Mud Bog" by 12:00 sharp.


Is this any way to treat a future in-law?  He knows I don't have any family really.  I did get a couple of co-workers and their husband/brother to help, thank goodness, but I'm really worried about the future with this boy--respect for me, priorities, selfishness--thanks in advance.


That is work; he is your future son-in-law

It sounds like you were lucky to get the offer you got and since you have no one you'd have been better off to take him up on it. 


You certainly can't expect people to do things just out of the goodness of their heart when they know you can't stand them.  If you can come on here and post about your future son-in-law's flaws, then I'm sure he knows how you feel. 


What are you trying to prove here?  He said he'd do it, that it would cost $200.00 for the friends to help (do you expect him to carry everything by himself), but that he couldn't place the furniture?  So what's wrong with that? 


For your future and that of your kids
You may not think so, but you've got a lot of things going for you, the most important being that you realize you need to do something.
Short term: You've gotten great advice about making small changes, like exercising, losing weight, etc. Go for it.
Long term: You're worried about bills, housing, and your children's reactions to changes in their lives, and those concerns are certainly valid. But there is something more important at stake: You do not want your unhappy marriage to be the template for your children's future relationships in adult life. They deserve better than that, and so do you. See a lawyer and plan your exit strategy. It may take time, but *commit* to change. Have you ever heard the saying, "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step?" Take that step and you will be surprised what you can do.
Teachers........sm
I understand the feelings about some teachers and the views that they get a good deal for doing nothing. When my children were in school, they had good teachers and some just downright horrible teachers that should never be teaching children. I think it depends on where you live also. They grew up for the most part in Florida and the community we were in had great schools.

Because of my husband's job, we moved to an area where the schools were less than desireable, but my kids were in advanced placement classes, which meant they were getting a better deal. I did see how this local system was dumbing down kids because a lot of them just come from homes where parents just plain ole don't care. Many problems, and they TOO think it's all the teacher's fault if their kids aren't passing. Strange that they never feel it is their responsibility to see their child is passing, but then again, so many of them are used to getting freebies and everything given to them without working for it, it never phases them they are actually supposed to raise their own child and not the school system.

That being said, my daughter now teaches in that system and I have to say, she has made a difference that is amazing. The testing scores (which personally she hates all the standardized testing but is forced to do by your government) have gone up tremendously with her classes, the highest in the school. Yes, she DOES WORK MORE than 8 hours a day. She has to be there at 7 and can't leave until 4:30....last time I checked that was 9-1/2 hour days. She has to eat with her children, and any "break" she gets is spent tutoring children to catch up or doing endless paperwork for the No Child Left Behind garbage. Her children truly love her and it shows. She worries endlessly about them, knowing so many of them go home where the parents aren't there, they work nights shifts, the children are alone all night. They don't eat dinner..many of them have only one meal and that's the one at school. She takes food to school and sticks it in their backpacks to take home because their lazy parents could care less and many are not even there at night. Some go home on Friday and don't eat again until Monday at school.

Don't blame the teachers for low performance at school. Teachers cannot MAKE lousy parents into good caring parents, they can't make the parents stop bar hopping and slutty mothers stop bringing home a different man every night and the kids see this trash. Teachers can't make the parents see that the children do their homework. They're not allowed to tell the parents to grow up and raise their child and stop acting like children themselves. Some of the kids come back to the school after hours to sit with her in the classroom because they dread going home because no one is there and they are scared. No doubt, there are a few bad apples when it comes to teachers, but there are WORSE parents who are responsible for the lack of their child's performance in the school system.

No one could pay me enough to put up with the trash she has to put up with every day. And to boot, at this school she has a joke of a principal who DOES GET A BONUS, not the teachers. And where is this 4% raise every year. She isn't getting it. She does not get this glorious paycheck you refer to and during the summer, she is tutoring kids to keep them from failing their grades against all odds. She spends her own money and does without herself, to buy things for the children they should have but don't. I personally have bought shoes and things their parents should get off their butts and get their children. These mothers seem to be able to afford expensive hairdos and fingernails, but can't afford shoes for their kids? The fathers....well, who knows where in the h*** they're at.....producing more babies I'm sure. When parents grow up and realize their responsibility to their children, then maybe the school can get better. Teachers are not supposed to be their parents, but many feel they have to be.
Might be exciting now, but future will be grim. SM
I would suggest adding some excitement to your marriage. Try to find the guy your husband was, that turned you on to him. That is where your attention should be.

You cannot go back again and you are not an 8th grader, but are acting like one.
Hmm, maybe modeling in her future? Hope
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You probably saved someone's life in the future.
A couple months ago there was a terrible head-on train crash near Los Angeles, and the cause of it was the engineer of the passenger train blew through a red light because he was texting some teenagers. It's a shame he was killed, because he should have lived to see the carnage he caused.
of course, most teachers would give a different
story, just as most MTs will tell you that they don't make enough to survive or they are living near poverty, but that's not really true either. Most people would say the same thing about any profession they choose.
And I thought gym teachers were mean
when I was in school! Argh! I'd be furious too.


Teachers from Hogwarts?
A ghost and a ghost buster?

(I'm looking at a flier from a costume shop).

They have a $70 Davy Jones costume that's unbelievable.

They also have male and female Spartan cheerleader costumes. Does your hubby look anything like Will Ferrell? Those are each $30 though. They have a Dickk Cheney mask. If your DH has hunting clothes he'd be set. You could go as a gunshot victim.

(Mr. Cheney's first name is a dirty word on this board - how funny).

Remember teachers can
make all the difference in a child's ability to learn. If the teacher is not good at actually teaching (which many are not!), you might want to see if there is another teacher to choose from.


If the &*%& government would let teachers...

and heck, even students arm themselves, we wouldn't be sending lambs to the slaughter like that.  They would've at least had a fighting chance.  If I'm going to die, give me the chance to die while fighting to protect myself and others.  Why should the criminals be the only ones who can arm themselves?   This is a very heated topic 'round these parts where it seems they want to take our right to protect ourselves away at every corner. 


Didn't one of our fellow MTs on this board here have a daughter who got into some serious doo-doo at her school for having pepper spray on her keychain?   Explain to me how THAT makes sense to punish a kid, or parent, for wanting to give them a fighting chance and protecting themselves. 


Honestly, I think teachers should
refer to students, no matter how old they are, by their first name, always.
Just to avoid misundertandings, like this one!
Yay, my future son-in-law is such a peach. HE didn't forget about me! nm
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Went to HS with future Mrs. Tom Hanks, Rita Wilson
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But teachers often have to use own money to pay for supplies
ujk
Most teachers have at least one planning period when they
can grade papers. If their job requires work-related hours away from school, they are given comp time.
underpaid teachers - what a joke!
I agree that teachers have all this extra work they have to do in their own time, but don't forget about all the paid time off they demanded; spring break, Christmas break, plus the fact that they get most of the summertime off with pay. I think that more than makes up for the extra time they have to put in while school is in session. I have a friend who is in the highest paying school district in Ohio and upon retirement, he and his wife will both be making 80K plus on their pensions. What's so god awful about that!!!!! Winning 10K may not be so great either by the time they pay taxes on it and add it to their income, possibly kicking them into a higher tax bracket. That can be considered a good or bad winning.
Yes, compliments and gifts are the better way, especially with teachers!..
Also, I think your child will not want that you pick a fight with his/her teacher.
Some very dedicated teachers and low paid...
like firemen, police, military who risk their lives for really low pay unlike people with extreme salaries like sports or movie stars.
thank you so much for the quick response. Would this pose a problem for me in the future?? nm

Past, present, future. Still expecting miracle.
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My sister and her husband are both teachers in Atlanta and -
The word is that many teachers will pass kids out of their current grade just to get rid of them. They tell me the biggest fear of the teachers is to have to teach the same problem child twice! They also say that some parents INSIST that their child be passed no matter what. So sad because it is the children who suffer!
Not many teachers just "work" during the hours school is in
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if the sonogram was not wrong, for the future you may want to get your hormone levels checked. sm
a lot of times when women have multiple miscarriages at the stages you are it is because their hormones are off, in particularly low progesterone. if this is the case, in the future it can be corrected by taking progesterone at earliest sign of conception until about 11-12 weeks. so ask questions as to what your estrogen/progesterone levels were on your lab results today. have you carried any children yet to term? wish you the best of luck and pray for a good outcome......
Guess he can take out a loan for future schooling! Son found a phone
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It is NOT the teachers place to tell a child that Santa doesn't
yeah I just might sue as well!
Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.

We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.

I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.


What an awesome post! I agree, agree, agree completely with you.
You are right on the money in my book! 
Yes, they do. 10-month teachers make more than 9-month
teachers. I know that for a fact. One of my sisters was a 9-month, one is a 10-month. They are compensated for working more scheduled hours.
My teachers did this from 1st grade through 12th grade. nm
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I agree, try to live in another country, then you will also agree...nm
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absolutement! Agree! Agree! Agree!
Why is it so hard to understand this?  HMOs are just middlemen who get everything balled up and costly!
I agree with you - not judging either but agree (nm)
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and I agree with you *nn* -

I agree......
I agree with everyone's reply here. Also--one more thing...DO NOT TOUCH THE RADIO/CD PLAYER WHILE DRIVING!! It was 17 years ago that one of my best friends was killed this way-very responsible girl, just did not think for that one moment.

I was a responsible teen, but my parents set strict rules on my driving. At the time, I did not understand but now that I have a 10-year-old son who keeps reminding me each year that he will be driving in __ years, I understand completely. If it were an option for us, I would keep my kids babies forever.

Another thing you can do, just to maybe ease your mind about driving is take her to the local police department and have them to show actual footage of accidents. I know that sounds pretty harsh, but it has saved a lot of kids lives in my surrounding area.

Hope this helps!!
wow - I sure do agree with you!!....sm

I would rather them be locked in a car driving than strolling or walking alone - In Florida - we have had MANY YOUNG KIDS killed (murder) by being alone walking to and from school.  My children are VERY responsible and pay for everything, except that car insurance (which is wayyyyyyyyy too much) which I offered to pay until age 28.  By the age of 28, they'll be earning more $$.  My OLD brother (and he's very old *LOL*) did this for his son until age 28 (think he's about 38 now) because of the exhorbitant insurance rates.  I decided to follow suit.  If we have it, why shouldn't we help them.  I'd rather help my children while I'M ALIVE AND KICKING rather than what they get when I die, IF there is anything to get *LOL*


Y'all have a GREAT day! 


Remember, we can all agree to disagree without being nasty and rude. 


and I so agree with you!!!.....sm

One of my children saved all the Xmas/holiday/birthday $$ ever received from toddler-hood so that at 17 had $6000+ and put it down on a BRAND NEW SMALL CAR, albeit I had to co-sign the balance.  Child did pay the rest off.  I too am very proud of the children who are  young still, one has worked for 10 years already (started off part-time at about 14 after school by own choice).


Yep, I want kids to hang out in multiple numbers today - never walking alone - too many CREEPS out there in the USA today and they are EVERYWHERE....really creepy to me.........


Let's sing out for the responsible good kids who are out there trying to live life in this messed-up world!!!! 


HOORAY FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!  They are our future and if we don't back them, well then we are up the creek without a paddle, right?   


I agree...
Don't be too quick to judge! Last I knew car seats can be moved from one car to another! It's so sad that a few rotten apples out there ruin it for the people who really need the help! Hope you are never in a situation where you may need a little help.
I agree
Hey, Chillie, I love what you said.  It's time somebody did.  All this political correctness crap is getting to the point where it really offends me.  And I'm SOMEBODY, TOO!!!  Thanks.
It all goes to what you agree to when you take the job
If you take the job knowing that it involves working the holiday or the night of or the night before then it is your obligation to do so.  That is the way of this trade.   Then the days following the holiday we are "dead" and everyone is yelling for work.  Kind of like the hospitals, the police, the fire department, the stores half the time -- we all know what is expected when we accept the job.  If you knew that it was expected of you when you said yes -- then I think it is your obligation to work.  If you have your own accounts or are an IC then you have the right to say no but don't complain when nothing comes your way the day or two after the holoidays.  I chose to have my own accounts and some are open the day after Thanksgiving and so what I pick up on late Weds has to be back by early Friday and so somwhere in that timeframe I have to get it done.  I might have a few more hours to do it but also have a family and life so will squeeze it in.   Then Friday I will have what was dictated on Weds and have to work on over the weekend.  So you see you are not alone but this has been the way since I have been doing this, close to 20+ years.  Before that when I worked in office/clinics we were never closed for the Friday after Thanksgiving, saw patients until 6 on Weds, back at 8 on Friday.  Anway got things to do.  Patti
I agree
I was in management also and I was lucky in that there were only a certain few MTs that were very stubborn about not working holidays or flat out refused. Most were willing to compromise, maybe do one major holiday and have off the other, or even put in a few hours of their choice. It is those who refuse to work all holidays that can mess things up for everyone. For if everyone refused, what then? I guess it would then have to become mandatory???? Exactly!
I agree with you...
Even if the story you were told is true, there's still something not right about the situation.  Best to make sure your daughter's not in any danger, I'd do the same thing!  Good luck...I feel for the other family though...how hard would that be?
I agree...

My husband is far from dispensable!  He's my best friend too.  He's a wonderful father, husband, son, brother, everything!  We've been married for almost 20 years and I love and need him more today than I did in the beginning.  Men are getting an unfair wrap here...although I completely sympathize with the OP.  That's her situation, though, not every marriage comes down to that.


Like I said before (and my post was deleted for some reason) I am looking forward to growing old with my husband...raising grandchildren...hopefully finally getting to travel.  I do believe the best has yet to come for us!


I 100% agree.
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